suppose theres a point to this story

Bet Wendys not the only one feeling a bit of a pr1ck today!! Shame on you St Woolas

dreadful to do, but don't let that stop you if it did any good,this is one unfortunate case compared to how may good. I know it should not of happened but think on !!!!

So the needle was removed at the Royal Gwent and she was allowed to take it home to pose for the picture ?

bmw wrote:
So the needle was removed at the Royal Gwent and she was allowed to take it home to pose for the picture ?

BMW... strange that, the member of staff at the Royal Gwent would not have given the needle back to her to take home.

Mrs Dempsey rushed back to the Royal Gwent Hospital to have the needle removed.

Hope they're on standby incase she ever gets a splinter! Think she's after a bit of Compo?

"Mrs Dempsey rushed back to the Royal Gwent Hospital to have the needle removed"

Why rush back to the Royal Gwent if she had her treatment at St Woolos

Did any of you actually read the article?

I wouldn't blame her if she's after a bit of compo having that left in her back!

evan.wilgosh wrote:
Did any of you actually read the article? I wouldn't blame her if she's after a bit of compo having that left in her back!

yes

from the comments from the top it is obvious that none of you have suffered long term chronic back pain. Lets hope you never do! Perhaps the following will help her:
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I get nothing out of this at all but if I can save anybody the pain i have endured for 7 years then so be it. I HOPE YOU NEVER SUFFER CHRONIC BACK PAIN!

I have suffered from sacroiliac syndrome and frequent prolapsed discs in my back for over 20 years.I have been fortunate to be treated by an orthopaedic consultant at St.Woolos and don't know how I would have coped without this first class care.As an alternative I had regular visits to a chiropractor in bridge street newport,what a huge relief that is,if they where employed by the nhs waiting lists would be reduced and patient satisfaction up 100%.Try them !!

Im glad you had a good experience with a consultant in st woolos but im in the mess im in due to one that works within Gwent healthcare trust. I know loads who suffered a similar fate. Newport is behind the times in how it treats spinal patients, cardiff is more 21st century. Chiropractors were used in my case until they could do no more. If I had known about the minimally invasive surgery then I would be leading an excellent quality of life. Look at alpha klinik in germany for reference for quality treatments or NICE. Best wishes to you, Alf!

The waiting list scenario in orthopaedics could have been sorted years ago. You need keyhole surgery as standard (replacing open surgery which leaves scar tissue which can cause as much problems).This also reduces your stay in hospital (keyhole can be done as a day case)so freeing up beds quicker.This plus the system devised by dr GJ petri formely of st james paget hospital in great yarmouth (now in switzerland). The Dual operating scheme was a winner in 2006 medical innovation awards in london. This guy reduced his list to zero when he implemented the system. Another good example is in birmingham a GP dr moheb shabley devised a one stop shop where you see within 3 weeks a GP, a hospital consultant,a physio and a psychologist all in one appointment.

No healthcare system is perfect. Anywhere! All have made mistakes, and all continue to do so. We are constantly reminded of errors made in the UK, but rarely of those abroad, which creates our belief that nhs is care is poor compared to others... I remember a little saying - "the grass is always greener..."

Mishaps and mistakes happen all the time. Remember that to be 99.9% perfect means that you make 1 mistake in 1000...

All sympathy to the person, it must have been horrid to discover this needle. We imagine that the nhs staff do not feel any guilt when they make a mistake, and hide behind management spin. They have to hide behind management spin, as our litigous society requires this! As for guilt, imagine how you might feel if you realised that you had made a mistake that had worsened a patient's wellbeing! Yes, some write it off, but these are hardnosed people who wouldn't wince when killing their own grandparents for money... Can we really assume that this mistake was a deliberate act?

Thats said, however, the rational thinker realises that a simple count of needles in and needles out would have caught this error. But as someone who is not a doctor, I cannot comment as to medical proceedure!


Jan - a little note on keyhole surgery! Its not all its cracked up to be. The risks are far higher, as the doctor is looking at a second hand image obtained from endoscopes. For as many people who have problems with other medical practices, so there are as many who have had problems with Keyhole!! Remember the proceedure is carried out by a human on a human! Mistakes are inevitable as soon as a person is involved with the process...

I take on board fully what you say,simon. I don't believe it was done deliberately but at the end of the day issues like this should be highlighted so that professionals learn by their mistakes. If someone admits they made a mistake and tries to correct it and no ones health suffers as a consequence of such actions then that is fine. It is when a persons quality of life is seriously altered because of the action of an individual that doesn't care then that is a different matter.
As for keyhole surgery on spines then it is the best option because open back surgery scar tissue can wrap itself around nerves causing a lot of additional pain.
If the proper training has been undertaken in keyhole surgery then it shouldn't be a problem.