YOUR MP: Newport East MP Jess Morden

As regular Argus readers will know, in April next year, the Westminster Government will be bringing in major changes to a number of welfare support payments. Of all these changes, the one which is already causing some of the greatest concern and upheaval for many local people is the "bedroom tax". In a nutshell, it means that more than 1,700 households in the Newport area will either have to pay more rent for 'spare' rooms in their homes - or move. For many people in our communities, these are not people's houses, but their homes. The homes they have cared for and cherished, lived in for decades, brought up their children, cared for their grandchildren and full of memories of lost loved ones. But the bedroom tax takes no account of this, applying the same callous measure to every family and person affected.

That is why I took this issue to the House of Commons last week, having successfully bid for time for a debate to highlight the terrible effect that the Bedroom Tax will have on people in Newport and across Gwent. I used the debate to highlight the awful impact that the changes will have, hitting many pensioners and hardworking families. As well as seeing their income hit, many will be forced to move into smaller properties, with no thought to the lifetime they may have spent in their current home. Even more worryingly, as housing stock is at such low levels, families face the prospect of being uprooted from one part of the city and forced to move to another, tearing communities and families apart.

But this is only half the story. At a time when household bills are rising, with food, gas and electricity more expensive than ever, there is a real possibility of people sliding into ever deeper debt as a result of these changes. In desperation, people may turn to Pay Day loan companies with exorbitant interest rates or - worse still - fall prey to the Loan Sharks and money lenders that prey on the most vulnerable. It is a toxic combination of social upheaval, financial uncertainty and the splitting of communities.

The irony is that if the stated aim is to save money, the policy has no logic. In many areas of Wales with no chance of smaller social houses, the policy encourages tenants to move to more expensive accommodation in the private rented sector, which will increase housing benefit expenditure.

Though the Conservative / Lib Dem Government didn't offer any consolation during the debate, the media coverage has at least raised the issue with the wider public. As your MP, I'll do all I can to help people affected

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8:57am Mon 4 Feb 13

jups says...

well said Jess ! Really dont think any of these changes have been thought out enough !
well said Jess ! Really dont think any of these changes have been thought out enough ! jups
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10:59am Mon 4 Feb 13

Bobevans says...

Why should taxpaper subsidies spare
rooms for social house tennents?

This is a longh overdue measure that will free up desperately needed family size accomodation

People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation

Social Housing is allocated on the basis of need. If you no longer need a the bedroom house you should move

Strange she is keen to
have a go at second home owners but rebels against a sensible measure of charging people for spare rooms
Why should taxpaper subsidies spare rooms for social house tennents? This is a longh overdue measure that will free up desperately needed family size accomodation People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation Social Housing is allocated on the basis of need. If you no longer need a the bedroom house you should move Strange she is keen to have a go at second home owners but rebels against a sensible measure of charging people for spare rooms Bobevans
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11:37am Mon 4 Feb 13

Llanmartinangel says...

What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me? Llanmartinangel
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12:05pm Mon 4 Feb 13

On the inside says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you. On the inside
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1:01pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

On the inside wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them.

But the Tories dont care do they.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.[/p][/quote]Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them. But the Tories dont care do they. Mr Angry
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1:05pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Howie' says...

Bobevans wrote:
Why should taxpaper subsidies spare
rooms for social house tennents?

This is a longh overdue measure that will free up desperately needed family size accomodation

People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation

Social Housing is allocated on the basis of need. If you no longer need a the bedroom house you should move

Strange she is keen to
have a go at second home owners but rebels against a sensible measure of charging people for spare rooms
'People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation'

No they are not, Bobby Boy. The choice is either pay up whether you can afford it or not or move out. There is no offer of being moved in to smaller accommodation. They can try for a mutual exchange but there is no guarantee that they will find anyone to exchange with, in fact for most it will be highly unlikely.

You will have to pay if you use a room for a foster child, guess that will lead to more kids not being placed with foster parents.

You will have to pay if your kids do not live with you but they stay with you in the school holidays and weekends, so what happens there Bob? If you can't afford this tax, move to a smaller property and have nowhere for your kids to stay.

And the Tory's call themselves the 'Party for Family's!

Then of course there are the people who are ill/ disabled who sleep in a hospital bed surrounded by medical equipment and their partner has to sleep in the spare room.

A Poll Tax just for the poorest in Society.
By a Tory led Government and their MP's who have multi bedroom properties as Tax funded second homes.............Bu
t pay no bedroom tax.

Remember how the property (mansion tax) was dismissed by Cameron and the Tory's on those who are the richest in Society yet they have no qualms in imposing a property (bedroom) tax on the poorest in society.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Why should taxpaper subsidies spare rooms for social house tennents? This is a longh overdue measure that will free up desperately needed family size accomodation People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation Social Housing is allocated on the basis of need. If you no longer need a the bedroom house you should move Strange she is keen to have a go at second home owners but rebels against a sensible measure of charging people for spare rooms[/p][/quote]'People are gbeing given the choice pay for the spre rooms or move to smaler accomodation' No they are not, Bobby Boy. The choice is either pay up whether you can afford it or not or move out. There is no offer of being moved in to smaller accommodation. They can try for a mutual exchange but there is no guarantee that they will find anyone to exchange with, in fact for most it will be highly unlikely. You will have to pay if you use a room for a foster child, guess that will lead to more kids not being placed with foster parents. You will have to pay if your kids do not live with you but they stay with you in the school holidays and weekends, so what happens there Bob? If you can't afford this tax, move to a smaller property and have nowhere for your kids to stay. And the Tory's call themselves the 'Party for Family's! Then of course there are the people who are ill/ disabled who sleep in a hospital bed surrounded by medical equipment and their partner has to sleep in the spare room. A Poll Tax just for the poorest in Society. By a Tory led Government and their MP's who have multi bedroom properties as Tax funded second homes.............Bu t pay no bedroom tax. Remember how the property (mansion tax) was dismissed by Cameron and the Tory's on those who are the richest in Society yet they have no qualms in imposing a property (bedroom) tax on the poorest in society. Howie'
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1:23pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Severn40 says...

Mr Angry wrote:
On the inside wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them. But the Tories dont care do they.
But the bedroom tax applies to those of working age. Pensioners are not affected by the proposed changes.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.[/p][/quote]Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them. But the Tories dont care do they.[/p][/quote]But the bedroom tax applies to those of working age. Pensioners are not affected by the proposed changes. Severn40
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1:35pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

Severn40 wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
On the inside wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them. But the Tories dont care do they.
But the bedroom tax applies to those of working age. Pensioners are not affected by the proposed changes.
So people in late 50's early 60,s in the same boat should have to go. That's just as bad.

But the bigger problem is THERE ARE NO HOMES TO GO TO as Howie stated. The Council housing in Newport is primarlily 3 bedroom. I doubt if there are that many two bedroom houses about, so its a choice - on the street or pay extra.

Some people think spite is good.
[quote][p][bold]Severn40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.[/p][/quote]Well said 'on the inside'. My friends parents have lived in their Council for well over 50 years - it is their home, their children have grown up and left - yes they so have a spare room. Both are in their 80's so moving now would be very difficult and unpleasant for them. But the Tories dont care do they.[/p][/quote]But the bedroom tax applies to those of working age. Pensioners are not affected by the proposed changes.[/p][/quote]So people in late 50's early 60,s in the same boat should have to go. That's just as bad. But the bigger problem is THERE ARE NO HOMES TO GO TO as Howie stated. The Council housing in Newport is primarlily 3 bedroom. I doubt if there are that many two bedroom houses about, so its a choice - on the street or pay extra. Some people think spite is good. Mr Angry
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2:09pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Llanmartinangel says...

On the inside wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
No I don't love it and it's no more Tory spite than the 50% rate of tax on people who work was Labour venom. And the purpose of social housing isn't intended to be a house for life regardless of circumstances when 1.8 million families are waiting for it. The rest of us don't get them. I'd be really happy if everyone could have everything they wanted all the time without paying for it but life ain't like that sadly.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.[/p][/quote]No I don't love it and it's no more Tory spite than the 50% rate of tax on people who work was Labour venom. And the purpose of social housing isn't intended to be a house for life regardless of circumstances when 1.8 million families are waiting for it. The rest of us don't get them. I'd be really happy if everyone could have everything they wanted all the time without paying for it but life ain't like that sadly. Llanmartinangel
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3:41pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
On the inside wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?
You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.
No I don't love it and it's no more Tory spite than the 50% rate of tax on people who work was Labour venom. And the purpose of social housing isn't intended to be a house for life regardless of circumstances when 1.8 million families are waiting for it. The rest of us don't get them. I'd be really happy if everyone could have everything they wanted all the time without paying for it but life ain't like that sadly.
Answer this, where are the alternative houses for these tennants to move into?

Because there aren't any are there. So whats the choice given to these people some on very low wages or incomes, pay the extra or the street.

Still the millonares tax cut must be paid for.

They are strugging so much aren't they.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: What a load of nonsense this woman speaks. If I were to go and tell my mortgage company that I can no longer afford to live in my five bed house now there's only two of us, so I'd like a payment reduction, I'd get short shrift. I'd have to move and leave my 'community' and 'memories' behind. So the question is: why should I be discriminated because I've paid for my house rather than have the taxpayer pay for it for me?[/p][/quote]You are paying nothing for social housing which is self funding. People are paying the set rent so whats the problem. Unless of course you take pleasure in making the lives of those less fortunate than you even harder. This is Tory spite plain and simple and you love it don't you.[/p][/quote]No I don't love it and it's no more Tory spite than the 50% rate of tax on people who work was Labour venom. And the purpose of social housing isn't intended to be a house for life regardless of circumstances when 1.8 million families are waiting for it. The rest of us don't get them. I'd be really happy if everyone could have everything they wanted all the time without paying for it but life ain't like that sadly.[/p][/quote]Answer this, where are the alternative houses for these tennants to move into? Because there aren't any are there. So whats the choice given to these people some on very low wages or incomes, pay the extra or the street. Still the millonares tax cut must be paid for. They are strugging so much aren't they. Mr Angry
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