MPs vote for gay marriage bill (From South Wales Argus)

It will happen at some point so you'd better get used to it.

MP's allowed free vote, we aren't. What rubbish, they follow the leader, nothing else. Whether the clauses WILL include any sort of Church Marriage is doubtful, already they have exclusion rights. Just what WAS the point ? GAY PR ?

What do you mean what was the point mervyn? unless youre part of a gay couple, why do you care? doesnt effect you mate, live and let live!

Excellent day for LGBTQ equality and only a miserable fascist-sympathising bigot would vote against the right of two people who are in love to get married merely on the grounds that they happen to be of the same sex. Gay people are only asking for the same, equal rights as their straight counterparts - no more, no less. Why is that so difficult for some people to accept? The outcome of this bill will also have positive implications for many transsexual people who undergo sex reassignment surgery as they can now choose to remain married. Up until now they have been forced to divorce their partners if they have sex reassignment surgery. When heterosexist groups like C4M tell you that they have been campaigning for marriage they have in fact been lying as they were secretly campaigning to keep a law that forced married transsexual people to divorce all along. To those self-styled 'bible bashers' amongst their multitude: do they know that 'do not lie' is one of the ten commandments, or do they believe they're exempt from that part?;)

Im struggling with this simply becuase I believe that marriage is a Christian event. But Christianity has no room for anything other than heterosexual relationships. How can you pick out the marriage bit but ignore the soddam and gomorah? Please, someone put me right on this.

SuperTonic7th wrote:
Im struggling with this simply becuase I believe that marriage is a Christian event. But Christianity has no room for anything other than heterosexual relationships. How can you pick out the marriage bit but ignore the soddam and gomorah? Please, someone put me right on this.

Where you're getting mixed up is that just because you believe that marriage is blah blah... doesn't mean everyone believes that. It certainly doesn't mean everyone should believe that.

Whatintheworld - so if marriage isn't a Christian event, what is it? And what distinguishes it from Civil Partnership. Is it just a legal thing?

The only thing that gets me is that jalf of the party were against it. If - and I emphasise IF - that extrapolated to half a country then we've seen the democratic execution of an undemocratic decision! Imposition of any ideoloogy (right or wrong) on a people sits uncomfortably with me.
That said, we got a devolved Assembly based on 26% of the country wanting one so I'm not surprised.
Am I the only one who remembers someone (Tatchell?) insisting that the introduction of civil partnerships would NOT resuilt in demands for same-sex marriage?
Which reminds me of the insistence that the end of the death penalty for murder, and their being replaced with whole life sentences would not result in murderers being released.
Or that a 'common market' would not result in the imposition of European Laws and loss of sovereignty.
BLINDING FLASH - we're being lied to all the time!

A shameful piece of legislation from a shameful prime minister and a rotten parliament. The whole lot of them should resign.

davidcp wrote:
The only thing that gets me is that jalf of the party were against it. If - and I emphasise IF - that extrapolated to half a country then we've seen the democratic execution of an undemocratic decision! Imposition of any ideoloogy (right or wrong) on a people sits uncomfortably with me.
That said, we got a devolved Assembly based on 26% of the country wanting one so I'm not surprised.
Am I the only one who remembers someone (Tatchell?) insisting that the introduction of civil partnerships would NOT resuilt in demands for same-sex marriage?
Which reminds me of the insistence that the end of the death penalty for murder, and their being replaced with whole life sentences would not result in murderers being released.
Or that a 'common market' would not result in the imposition of European Laws and loss of sovereignty.
BLINDING FLASH - we're being lied to all the time!

'The only thing that gets me is that jalf of the party were against it. If - and I emphasise IF - that extrapolated to half a country then we've seen the democratic execution of an undemocratic decision! Imposition of any ideoloogy (right or wrong) on a people sits uncomfortably with me'.

It was half of the Tory Party's Mp's but a majority of Mp's voted for it!

'That said, we got a devolved Assembly based on 26% of the country wanting one so I'm not surprised'.

It was 52% of the voters, if some people did not vote that's their problem,and yours by the sound of it.

Am I the only one who remembers someone (Tatchell?) insisting that the introduction of civil partnerships would NOT resuilt in demands for same-sex marriage?

There were no demands from the Gay community or Peter Tatchell as far as I can see, this was all down to 'call me Dave' our Prime Minister who thought it would be a good idea too take the electorates minds off the fact that HMS Brittania is heading for a triple recession. But give him his due, well done Dave, a bit of progressive politics whilst knifing your Tory party in the back....result!

'Which reminds me of the insistence that the end of the death penalty for murder, and their being replaced with whole life sentences would not result in murderers being released'.

Well David you know something the rest of us don't know.


'Or that a 'common market' would not result in the imposition of European Laws and loss of sovereignty. BLINDING FLASH - we're being lied to all the time'!

That's quite true David, whilst the left of the Labour Party, Benn, Foot, Heffer, Shore etc were warning everyone about a federal Europe in the 1970's and it's implications the treacherous Tory's under Heath were lying to secure a 'yes' vote.

Nice to see that Tory Mp David Davies who claims not to be bigoted because he boxed and "Once got knocked around the ring by gay boxer. Respect & like, so not bigoted''
turns out to be anything but and votes against gay marriage.