Newport bar owner, lftekhar Haris, could lose licence over police concerns

South Wales Argus: FACING REVIEW: Iftekhar Haris outside his Meze Lounge in Newport FACING REVIEW: Iftekhar Haris outside his Meze Lounge in Newport

A NEWPORT club and bar owner could lose licences for his four city nightspots after police raised concerns about anti-social behaviour and public safety.

The city council will review the premises licences of Kama Lounge, Warehouse 54, Delilah’s and Meze Lounge, all run by lftekhar Haris, on the request of Chief Constable Carmel Napier.

In reports to Newport’s licensing sub committee, PC Rachael Honey-Morris said that Mr Haris has a number of premises which are “problematic” and undermine the key licensing objectives in relation to crime and disorder.

The force’s application came after Mr Haris applied to transfer the licence of Kama Lounge, on Cambrian Road, into his own name.

Gwent Police objected on a number of grounds, including that Mr Haris is currently on bail for an alleged offence of violence said to have happened outside the club. He denies the offence and is due to stand trial at Abergavenny Magistrates’ Court on April 5.

The report also says that Mr Haris could not adequately supervise these premises as well as his other three busy city centre venues.

The force then decided to look at all his premises and found they were regularly called to Warehouse 54, also on Cambrian Road, because of incidents both inside and outside. While the number of incidents decreased when an action plan was put in place, it rose again after it finished.

Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road, while Delilah’s, on High Street, was in an area considered to be Wales’ worst street in terms of the number of violent incidents.

The report said Delilah’s was well-known for holding under-age parties, which saw an increase in disorder, with many youths trying to buy alcohol in nearby pubs and off-licenses. When the parties stopped, the number of incidents fell and last year the opening hours of the premises were reduced in a bid to tackle problems.

Officers also criticised a cocktail menu displayed within the club, which used words they deemed to be obscene and an offence under the Public Order Act 1986.

A meeting with police was held and the menu was later changed.

Several businesses and club-goers have written to the council in support of Mr Haris and his “iconic” venues.

The premises licence for all venues will be reviewed by the council’s licensing sub committee next Tuesday and Wednesday.

There are several options available to the committee, including refusing the review application, changing the licence conditions, removing Mr Haris as the designated premises supervisor, and suspending or revoking the licence.

‘I have battled to keep nightspots open in city’

MR HARIS said he was “totally baffled” by the reasons for the review.

He disputes police figures on the number of incidents recorded and said they were misleading because they did not state what type of incident they were.

He said he and his staff have co-operated with officers on issues previously raised, but said a bigger police presence was needed in Newport to deter crime and disorder. Mr Haris said his businesses were already struggling to survive and said there would be little nightlife left in Newport if he were to lose his licences. He said: “I am an independent who has battled to keep these places open.

“If I were to close, what would be left? There are venues shutting every where, I have had to keep things going in order to keep the city going.”

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11:42am Wed 20 Feb 13

billy boy 2 says...

Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ?
Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ? billy boy 2

12:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

billy boy 2 wrote:
Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ?
Thats clever, I guess all the people who work in the places 'that could be closed' would love that.
[quote][p][bold]billy boy 2[/bold] wrote: Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ?[/p][/quote]Thats clever, I guess all the people who work in the places 'that could be closed' would love that. Mr Angry

12:57pm Wed 20 Feb 13

godobe says...

Mr Angry wrote:
billy boy 2 wrote:
Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ?
Thats clever, I guess all the people who work in the places 'that could be closed' would love that.
They could always work in these family restaurants that billy boy 2 is opening.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billy boy 2[/bold] wrote: Does Newport really needs as many night spots and late night drinking bars that we have, would the town become a nicer place at night to visit and maybe incourage more family friendly restaurant to move in if some closed ?[/p][/quote]Thats clever, I guess all the people who work in the places 'that could be closed' would love that.[/p][/quote]They could always work in these family restaurants that billy boy 2 is opening. godobe

1:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13

username2 says...

Does the council realise that this guy is one of the few that is actually trying to get something going in the city centre? They're not for me but at least he's showing some entrepreneurial spirit.
Does the council realise that this guy is one of the few that is actually trying to get something going in the city centre? They're not for me but at least he's showing some entrepreneurial spirit. username2

1:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13

truth_speaker says...

That is absolutely stupid...! maybe if the council helped a bit more than they currently are, maybe things would be much better...! without delilahs, meze, WH54, kama lounge and other places, there will be Breeze and Revs! what good are they? Absolutely stupid in my eyes...!!! afterall, he is trying his best to get things going in Newport....!!!
That is absolutely stupid...! maybe if the council helped a bit more than they currently are, maybe things would be much better...! without delilahs, meze, WH54, kama lounge and other places, there will be Breeze and Revs! what good are they? Absolutely stupid in my eyes...!!! afterall, he is trying his best to get things going in Newport....!!! truth_speaker

2:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13

JoJoJoJo says...

What next? Mister Ifster is the ONLY person who brings trade to Newport.
What next? Mister Ifster is the ONLY person who brings trade to Newport. JoJoJoJo

2:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13

portforever says...

with no bars and no shops, what is newport just a empty city with little going for it, all very sad when you look at a proper city like cardiff, full of shops and bars ansd the like.seems newport really went down hill when it became a city, it never was a city of culture but now it is a place i dont visit if i can help it,,
with no bars and no shops, what is newport just a empty city with little going for it, all very sad when you look at a proper city like cardiff, full of shops and bars ansd the like.seems newport really went down hill when it became a city, it never was a city of culture but now it is a place i dont visit if i can help it,, portforever

4:14pm Wed 20 Feb 13

russ angel says...

Iftiker is not responsible for the behavior of Newports louts,he doesn't promote it ,and he is keeping venues open that would otherwise make the whole place look like a ghost town.Don't blame an innocent man for your mismanagement in Newports policing and chav culture.
Iftiker is not responsible for the behavior of Newports louts,he doesn't promote it ,and he is keeping venues open that would otherwise make the whole place look like a ghost town.Don't blame an innocent man for your mismanagement in Newports policing and chav culture. russ angel

5:19pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Newportlad says...

On iftikers defence the current m cat problem taking Newport by storm may be directly related to the increase in violence
On iftikers defence the current m cat problem taking Newport by storm may be directly related to the increase in violence Newportlad

5:27pm Wed 20 Feb 13

displayed says...

"Mr Haris could not adequately supervise these premises as well as his other three busy city centre venues."
So not content with one club, hes gotta have 3 more!
He cant run those either!
"Mr Haris could not adequately supervise these premises as well as his other three busy city centre venues." So not content with one club, hes gotta have 3 more! He cant run those either! displayed

5:34pm Wed 20 Feb 13

rachjr89 says...

First, we lose all decent shops in the supposed 'city centre,' turning us into more of a ghost town - a joke, actually. Then, they decide to close the clubs because of fighting? Great idea. Not. Surely, the same ‘trouble makers’ will just move on to Cardiff, generating more money for an already thriving economy, whereas Newport, well, Newport will just be driven well and truly into the ground. Yeah, I can see the logic...

And, the talk of the number of incidents outside the establishments... comical! Popular establishments mean more consumers (hardly rocket science). So, with a higher volume of people there will undoubtedly be ‘more’ incidents. Let’s just all go to the worst club in Newport, that is on the brink of bankruptcy and where nobody ever goes, hence there are no fights, and see what happens next...
First, we lose all decent shops in the supposed 'city centre,' turning us into more of a ghost town - a joke, actually. Then, they decide to close the clubs because of fighting? Great idea. Not. Surely, the same ‘trouble makers’ will just move on to Cardiff, generating more money for an already thriving economy, whereas Newport, well, Newport will just be driven well and truly into the ground. Yeah, I can see the logic... And, the talk of the number of incidents outside the establishments... comical! Popular establishments mean more consumers (hardly rocket science). So, with a higher volume of people there will undoubtedly be ‘more’ incidents. Let’s just all go to the worst club in Newport, that is on the brink of bankruptcy and where nobody ever goes, hence there are no fights, and see what happens next... rachjr89

5:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13

JoeJonWallace says...

As someone who could barely care less whether they're open or not on a personal level, if the police really are taking this to council then they don't have a legal leg to stand on and as long as the councillors aren't braindead they'll throw the case out.
As someone who could barely care less whether they're open or not on a personal level, if the police really are taking this to council then they don't have a legal leg to stand on and as long as the councillors aren't braindead they'll throw the case out. JoeJonWallace

5:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Adrian Williams says...

I've never seen any trouble in Kharma Lounge - the only decent night spot in town
I've never seen any trouble in Kharma Lounge - the only decent night spot in town Adrian Williams

6:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13

lee neale says...

Leisure centres, Clubs!!!...what next!!?
Leisure centres, Clubs!!!...what next!!? lee neale

6:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13

NakedDancer says...

From personal experience i can only comment on Kama Lounge and Warehouse 54 - nice relaxed atmosphere, professional security staff, friendly bar staff, outstanding live music and fabulous pizza in WH54. A great night out for all ages.
From personal experience i can only comment on Kama Lounge and Warehouse 54 - nice relaxed atmosphere, professional security staff, friendly bar staff, outstanding live music and fabulous pizza in WH54. A great night out for all ages. NakedDancer

6:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13

jowooo says...

The problem here is with violence OUTSIDE the venues, the police need to PROPERLY police the centre to cut this down - not try to close the business. People would just fight outside other venues, think of the people employed by Iffy - Bar Staff,Builders,Promo
ters,Printers,Graphi
c Designers,Supplyers,
Drivers,Chefs,Door Staff Etc - do theses all deserve to lose jobs because the police won't do their job?
The sheer mention of cocktail names, proves the stupidity of these idiots
The problem here is with violence OUTSIDE the venues, the police need to PROPERLY police the centre to cut this down - not try to close the business. People would just fight outside other venues, think of the people employed by Iffy - Bar Staff,Builders,Promo ters,Printers,Graphi c Designers,Supplyers, Drivers,Chefs,Door Staff Etc - do theses all deserve to lose jobs because the police won't do their job? The sheer mention of cocktail names, proves the stupidity of these idiots jowooo

6:16pm Wed 20 Feb 13

NiNo says...

If you shut any of these clubs down, you are going to be dealing with even more problems, places are going to be over run with people, people will be back out on the streets causing trouble, and in pubs. Just completely running Newport into the ground now...

And I don't think I've ever seen a fight in Meze for a few years now?

And most of the other clubs, not owned by Iffy, seem to have riot vans outside with drunk and disorderly people every time I've come into Newport, so whether you're thinking they are some how related to Iffy, then there's something wrong, his clubs aren't what you should be trying to close.

Police the streets more, I guarantee you'll find trouble makers in other places, there are a gang attacking people, robbing them in Newport at night, go for those! Iffy has strict door policy and if he or any of their staff find that they look like they are going to cause trouble, then they don't let them in, and people may kick off about that, but that's about it really.

Iffy is keeping the nightlife in Newport going, if it wasn't for him, it would be as much as a ghost town at night as it is in the day.
If you shut any of these clubs down, you are going to be dealing with even more problems, places are going to be over run with people, people will be back out on the streets causing trouble, and in pubs. Just completely running Newport into the ground now... And I don't think I've ever seen a fight in Meze for a few years now? And most of the other clubs, not owned by Iffy, seem to have riot vans outside with drunk and disorderly people every time I've come into Newport, so whether you're thinking they are some how related to Iffy, then there's something wrong, his clubs aren't what you should be trying to close. Police the streets more, I guarantee you'll find trouble makers in other places, there are a gang attacking people, robbing them in Newport at night, go for those! Iffy has strict door policy and if he or any of their staff find that they look like they are going to cause trouble, then they don't let them in, and people may kick off about that, but that's about it really. Iffy is keeping the nightlife in Newport going, if it wasn't for him, it would be as much as a ghost town at night as it is in the day. NiNo

7:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13

davies2k11 says...

What a load of rubbish. I've been going to Iffy's venues for 6 years now. Barely seen any trouble. Certainly not in Kama Lounge or Meze. The majority of scraps I have seen have been out in the streets, outside the clubs from people who have been kicked out by Iffy's bouncers doing their jobs correctly. Once they're out, they're the polices problem. If there was a greater police presence then there wouldn't be nearly as many incidents.

People are saying Iffy is responsible for the areas outside his clubs as well, what do you want him to do? Usually bouncers aren't insured to get involved in things outside the club so they don't get involved. So is Iffy supposed to jump in and break up every fight himself? Maybe the police should be looking at themselves before driving a man who has worked tirelessly for 15 years trying to give the people of Newport a fun place to spend their weekend nights.
What a load of rubbish. I've been going to Iffy's venues for 6 years now. Barely seen any trouble. Certainly not in Kama Lounge or Meze. The majority of scraps I have seen have been out in the streets, outside the clubs from people who have been kicked out by Iffy's bouncers doing their jobs correctly. Once they're out, they're the polices problem. If there was a greater police presence then there wouldn't be nearly as many incidents. People are saying Iffy is responsible for the areas outside his clubs as well, what do you want him to do? Usually bouncers aren't insured to get involved in things outside the club so they don't get involved. So is Iffy supposed to jump in and break up every fight himself? Maybe the police should be looking at themselves before driving a man who has worked tirelessly for 15 years trying to give the people of Newport a fun place to spend their weekend nights. davies2k11

7:36pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Welshman76 says...

Nightlife in newport is dire! Half the amount of places shut and probably a quarter of the people on a night out than it was when i first started going out about 16 years ago. There were more pubs than now and they were full often with queues outside. There's now a smaller choice but nowhere seems to overly busy on a standard Friday or Saturday night out. Love the Kama lounge and never ad any hassle in there!
Nightlife in newport is dire! Half the amount of places shut and probably a quarter of the people on a night out than it was when i first started going out about 16 years ago. There were more pubs than now and they were full often with queues outside. There's now a smaller choice but nowhere seems to overly busy on a standard Friday or Saturday night out. Love the Kama lounge and never ad any hassle in there! Welshman76

9:59pm Wed 20 Feb 13

D Taylor says...

At least Iffy Haris is making an effort to keep some sort of evening economy going in Newport. It's seems to me that the police just want an easy life. No clubs=no bother. I hope the licencing committee examine the police claims very closely. And if they don't stand up ignore them.
At least Iffy Haris is making an effort to keep some sort of evening economy going in Newport. It's seems to me that the police just want an easy life. No clubs=no bother. I hope the licencing committee examine the police claims very closely. And if they don't stand up ignore them. D Taylor

8:35am Thu 21 Feb 13

Ringo78 says...

Very ignorant man who couldn't care less about newport or its people just interested in lining his pockets,I for one wouldn't step foot in one of his establishments! :)
Very ignorant man who couldn't care less about newport or its people just interested in lining his pockets,I for one wouldn't step foot in one of his establishments! :) Ringo78

9:34am Thu 21 Feb 13

t-beirne says...

@ ringo78...you are exactly the type of person iffy doesnt want in his clubs...you obviously dont know him very well...because if you did...you would know he is one of the most hard working, determined people in newport and has been for almost 20 years. He is constantly trying to make newport a better place...not just the night life but the day trade too, he is fighting the council to keep free parking to stop people going elsewhere and he is not reposnsible for the idots that cause problem and fights...if his establishments were to be closed down then these idots would only cause trouble at any existing venues...why detroy 20 years of a mans life, business and determination in makling newport a better place...when the only fools who will win are the idots causing the trouble. I suggest the council wind their necks in and stop passing the buck and speak tyo the police about having a bigger police presence at weekens...after all thats what we pay our taxes for...keep up the good work iffy...all your loyal customers and friends are 100% behind you
@ ringo78...you are exactly the type of person iffy doesnt want in his clubs...you obviously dont know him very well...because if you did...you would know he is one of the most hard working, determined people in newport and has been for almost 20 years. He is constantly trying to make newport a better place...not just the night life but the day trade too, he is fighting the council to keep free parking to stop people going elsewhere and he is not reposnsible for the idots that cause problem and fights...if his establishments were to be closed down then these idots would only cause trouble at any existing venues...why detroy 20 years of a mans life, business and determination in makling newport a better place...when the only fools who will win are the idots causing the trouble. I suggest the council wind their necks in and stop passing the buck and speak tyo the police about having a bigger police presence at weekens...after all thats what we pay our taxes for...keep up the good work iffy...all your loyal customers and friends are 100% behind you t-beirne

11:34am Thu 21 Feb 13

ncfcr says...

Absolute rubbish. I've never seen any trouble in Meze or Kama Lounge - both are nice places to go and full of decent people.
Absolute rubbish. I've never seen any trouble in Meze or Kama Lounge - both are nice places to go and full of decent people. ncfcr

11:36am Thu 21 Feb 13

ncfcr says...

I particularly liked this quote:-

"Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road"

As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two!

The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum.
I particularly liked this quote:- "Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road" As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two! The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum. ncfcr

11:37am Thu 21 Feb 13

ncfcr says...

Ringo78 wrote:
Very ignorant man who couldn't care less about newport or its people just interested in lining his pockets,I for one wouldn't step foot in one of his establishments! :)
What a pathetic comment. I don't know the guy personally, but why else would he be running night clubs if it wasn't to make a profit?

He's not going to be doing it for the benefit of his health is he?
[quote][p][bold]Ringo78[/bold] wrote: Very ignorant man who couldn't care less about newport or its people just interested in lining his pockets,I for one wouldn't step foot in one of his establishments! :)[/p][/quote]What a pathetic comment. I don't know the guy personally, but why else would he be running night clubs if it wasn't to make a profit? He's not going to be doing it for the benefit of his health is he? ncfcr

12:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13

county mad says...

The problem is poor police tactics. They are responsive not proactive. Look at Cardiff lots of police presence instant reaction to start of trouble dog units always about. Newport 999 call several mins to get there problem escalated. More monitored CCTV more police on the street ( its not a huge area). I am a taxi owner and take fares to both cities I think I can comment fairly. Council and police are to be found sadly lacking. It's not the club owner!
The problem is poor police tactics. They are responsive not proactive. Look at Cardiff lots of police presence instant reaction to start of trouble dog units always about. Newport 999 call several mins to get there problem escalated. More monitored CCTV more police on the street ( its not a huge area). I am a taxi owner and take fares to both cities I think I can comment fairly. Council and police are to be found sadly lacking. It's not the club owner! county mad

12:08pm Thu 21 Feb 13

county mad says...

The problem is poor police tactics. They are responsive not proactive. Look at Cardiff lots of police presence instant reaction to start of trouble dog units always about. Newport 999 call several mins to get there problem escalated. More monitored CCTV more police on the street ( its not a huge area). I am a taxi owner and take fares to both cities I think I can comment fairly. Council and police are to be found sadly lacking. It's not the club owner!
The problem is poor police tactics. They are responsive not proactive. Look at Cardiff lots of police presence instant reaction to start of trouble dog units always about. Newport 999 call several mins to get there problem escalated. More monitored CCTV more police on the street ( its not a huge area). I am a taxi owner and take fares to both cities I think I can comment fairly. Council and police are to be found sadly lacking. It's not the club owner! county mad

2:39pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Ringo78 says...

The police do a good job to be fair,Lets hope they close them all up,will be a much better place :)
The police do a good job to be fair,Lets hope they close them all up,will be a much better place :) Ringo78

4:31pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Strider says...

ncfcr wrote:
I particularly liked this quote:-

"Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road"

As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two!

The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum.
If you think there's only two bars on that road then you not very observant!! Trying engaging your brain!!
[quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: I particularly liked this quote:- "Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road" As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two! The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum.[/p][/quote]If you think there's only two bars on that road then you not very observant!! Trying engaging your brain!! Strider

4:40pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Strider says...

truth_speaker wrote:
That is absolutely stupid...! maybe if the council helped a bit more than they currently are, maybe things would be much better...! without delilahs, meze, WH54, kama lounge and other places, there will be Breeze and Revs! what good are they? Absolutely stupid in my eyes...!!! afterall, he is trying his best to get things going in Newport....!!!
Text Speaker sorry Truth Speaker the Council or nothing to do with the rent or licensing!!!

What are Le Pub, Lloyds Number 1, Carpenters Greyhound, 200 Club, Cleopatra's, 6ft Under, Pen & Wig, Infusion, La Bamba, Bird Cage, Cage Keys, Tom Toya Lewis, Angel and that place what was Quids Inn

I thought they where pubs/clubs, but you say Revs and Breeze or the only ones other than Iffys.. I
[quote][p][bold]truth_speaker[/bold] wrote: That is absolutely stupid...! maybe if the council helped a bit more than they currently are, maybe things would be much better...! without delilahs, meze, WH54, kama lounge and other places, there will be Breeze and Revs! what good are they? Absolutely stupid in my eyes...!!! afterall, he is trying his best to get things going in Newport....!!![/p][/quote]Text Speaker sorry Truth Speaker the Council or nothing to do with the rent or licensing!!! What are Le Pub, Lloyds Number 1, Carpenters Greyhound, 200 Club, Cleopatra's, 6ft Under, Pen & Wig, Infusion, La Bamba, Bird Cage, Cage Keys, Tom Toya Lewis, Angel and that place what was Quids Inn I thought they where pubs/clubs, but you say Revs and Breeze or the only ones other than Iffys.. I Strider

9:39pm Thu 21 Feb 13

h0n3sty says...

Omg shut the only clubs in town why? What A great way to get Newport the attraction it needs. This council and Gwent police need to get back in the real world the town is an embarrassment as it is take these clubs away you might as well forget the potential life of the new office employees they enjoy a good drink after office hours and they will end up jumping on the first train out of the Port. Often I have witness an Admiral team evening out of the office and first port of call is Palma lounge with cocktails in teapots !!!! You just go ahead and damage the town and any chance of getting out of this mess !!! Demolish it you will never see it how it once was how can we expect to be proud of the CITY HOW IS IT A CITY?? Shame on you Gwent police and scandellous if your View is taken on board what else are u doing it's your duty to attend to crime how ridiculous to even have an issue it will be the police who end up without a job idiots
Omg shut the only clubs in town why? What A great way to get Newport the attraction it needs. This council and Gwent police need to get back in the real world the town is an embarrassment as it is take these clubs away you might as well forget the potential life of the new office employees they enjoy a good drink after office hours and they will end up jumping on the first train out of the Port. Often I have witness an Admiral team evening out of the office and first port of call is Palma lounge with cocktails in teapots !!!! You just go ahead and damage the town and any chance of getting out of this mess !!! Demolish it you will never see it how it once was how can we expect to be proud of the CITY HOW IS IT A CITY?? Shame on you Gwent police and scandellous if your View is taken on board what else are u doing it's your duty to attend to crime how ridiculous to even have an issue it will be the police who end up without a job idiots h0n3sty

2:23pm Fri 22 Feb 13

truth_speaker says...

Strider,

Well those places are not exactly night clubs are they...? breeze and revs can hold a decent number of people...maybe lloyds...! but the others do not simply have the capacity to hold the amount of people iffy's place has available...! even then, they will all play the same type of music...! Iffys places have different types of music which appeals to most people...! if all of iffy's places close, i doubt the venues that you stated will hold that much people...!!!
Strider, Well those places are not exactly night clubs are they...? breeze and revs can hold a decent number of people...maybe lloyds...! but the others do not simply have the capacity to hold the amount of people iffy's place has available...! even then, they will all play the same type of music...! Iffys places have different types of music which appeals to most people...! if all of iffy's places close, i doubt the venues that you stated will hold that much people...!!! truth_speaker

2:25pm Fri 22 Feb 13

truth_speaker says...

and plus, Natalie Crockett, i think you may need to do more research about this article as i know the majority of the stuff in here are simply not true...!!!
and plus, Natalie Crockett, i think you may need to do more research about this article as i know the majority of the stuff in here are simply not true...!!! truth_speaker

3:26pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Gareth says...

truth_speaker wrote:
and plus, Natalie Crockett, i think you may need to do more research about this article as i know the majority of the stuff in here are simply not true...!!!
I'm struggling to see what part of Natalie's reporting of the report wasn't true...
[quote][p][bold]truth_speaker[/bold] wrote: and plus, Natalie Crockett, i think you may need to do more research about this article as i know the majority of the stuff in here are simply not true...!!![/p][/quote]I'm struggling to see what part of Natalie's reporting of the report wasn't true... Gareth

3:39pm Fri 22 Feb 13

J.Griffiths says...

I agree that it's the thugs and police who are to blame rather than the owner, of course he can't be in 5 places at once personally but has every right to open as many clubs as he likes.
People caught fighting, taking drugs what have you should be banned automatically from the city center at night.
There's so many ways of preventing it too, bingo halls have a swipe card system that registers all customers as you arrive, that system could be used to track the trouble makers in bars/clubs and deny entry to those who are known to be violent etc.
Lots of options to impose temp bans for minor incidents or life bans for the worst offenders. A simple swipe card with a photo on the front to weed out underage drinkers and idiots, simples :-) A small cost to set up compared to all the extra police, cells, court cases etc, council should fund it with a contribution from the bar owners each year too.
I agree that it's the thugs and police who are to blame rather than the owner, of course he can't be in 5 places at once personally but has every right to open as many clubs as he likes. People caught fighting, taking drugs what have you should be banned automatically from the city center at night. There's so many ways of preventing it too, bingo halls have a swipe card system that registers all customers as you arrive, that system could be used to track the trouble makers in bars/clubs and deny entry to those who are known to be violent etc. Lots of options to impose temp bans for minor incidents or life bans for the worst offenders. A simple swipe card with a photo on the front to weed out underage drinkers and idiots, simples :-) A small cost to set up compared to all the extra police, cells, court cases etc, council should fund it with a contribution from the bar owners each year too. J.Griffiths

4:19pm Fri 22 Feb 13

sunrise123 says...

The police response time is usually slowed down, because of certain families in Newport, they can't live without a drama on their doorstep and take a huge amount of police time sorting out their domestic lives, usually dropping in for coffee on a Sunday morning.to monitor their private lives.
The police response time is usually slowed down, because of certain families in Newport, they can't live without a drama on their doorstep and take a huge amount of police time sorting out their domestic lives, usually dropping in for coffee on a Sunday morning.to monitor their private lives. sunrise123

4:52pm Fri 22 Feb 13

regaturn says...

Whilsdt I don't frequent these premises, I know from 30 years experience that more disorder occurs outside Mcdonald's in the high Street--will they be next--I doubt it!
Whilsdt I don't frequent these premises, I know from 30 years experience that more disorder occurs outside Mcdonald's in the high Street--will they be next--I doubt it! regaturn

7:18pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Big Bus Driver says...

I seem to remember there used to be lots of trouble outside the now departed rock venue on Clarence Place. If you sell alcohol anywhere in the UK there will be a lot of violence and general criminality, it's the British way.
I seem to remember there used to be lots of trouble outside the now departed rock venue on Clarence Place. If you sell alcohol anywhere in the UK there will be a lot of violence and general criminality, it's the British way. Big Bus Driver

9:28pm Fri 22 Feb 13

ncfcr says...

Strider wrote:
ncfcr wrote:
I particularly liked this quote:-

"Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road"

As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two!

The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum.
If you think there's only two bars on that road then you not very observant!! Trying engaging your brain!!
Help me out then - the Cross Keys, the Meze - are there any others? I'm don't spend as much time there as I used to, so genuinely thought that these were the only clubs on Market St.

As far as I can remember the only other businesses there are all closed.
[quote][p][bold]Strider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: I particularly liked this quote:- "Police said Meze Lounge in Market Street was responsible for the second highest number of calls to the road" As far as I am aware, there are only two bars on that street. So what they're actually saying is that the Meze Lounge is the safer of the two! The lunatics are well and truly in charge of the asylum.[/p][/quote]If you think there's only two bars on that road then you not very observant!! Trying engaging your brain!![/p][/quote]Help me out then - the Cross Keys, the Meze - are there any others? I'm don't spend as much time there as I used to, so genuinely thought that these were the only clubs on Market St. As far as I can remember the only other businesses there are all closed. ncfcr

11:29pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Strider says...

^^^ NC

The Bird Cage (the gay bar)
Place that was Quids Inn not sure what its called now
Cross Keys
Meze Lounge
Nightclub above kebab shop was ODT I think

Not to mention High Street is full of pubs.. And the old yates building(Whatever Iffy calls it) is being converted to a Premier Inn and friends who go out on Friday say meze Lounge is closed on a Friday and Kama Lounge is private party's only

I don't go to Newport at night but this is what I'm told.. Also Newport has more Spoons then the capital
^^^ NC The Bird Cage (the gay bar) Place that was Quids Inn not sure what its called now Cross Keys Meze Lounge Nightclub above kebab shop was ODT I think Not to mention High Street is full of pubs.. And the old yates building(Whatever Iffy calls it) is being converted to a Premier Inn and friends who go out on Friday say meze Lounge is closed on a Friday and Kama Lounge is private party's only I don't go to Newport at night but this is what I'm told.. Also Newport has more Spoons then the capital Strider

6:33pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Dai the Milk says...

Q: When is a city no longer a city?
A: When the police and council work 'in partnership' to kill it.
Q: When is a city no longer a city? A: When the police and council work 'in partnership' to kill it. Dai the Milk

8:32pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Tomanyunits says...

Surely the problem is the amount of alchahol consumed by said trouble makers. Selling intoxicating liquor at ridiculously low prices such as a 50ml mesure and mixer for as little as £1.50 is illegal. This is fact and where fighting and antisocial behavior is rooted. Mr harris has a licence to sell liquor responsably and that is not happening. This is why he is under review. Yes he is a newport icon and yes he works very hard to corner the market. Not to mention the adverse affect selling extremely cheap alchahol has on all the other businesses in the city who have not the funds to fight out such tactics. This price fixing starves out competion and encourages binge drinking and violence.
Surely the problem is the amount of alchahol consumed by said trouble makers. Selling intoxicating liquor at ridiculously low prices such as a 50ml mesure and mixer for as little as £1.50 is illegal. This is fact and where fighting and antisocial behavior is rooted. Mr harris has a licence to sell liquor responsably and that is not happening. This is why he is under review. Yes he is a newport icon and yes he works very hard to corner the market. Not to mention the adverse affect selling extremely cheap alchahol has on all the other businesses in the city who have not the funds to fight out such tactics. This price fixing starves out competion and encourages binge drinking and violence. Tomanyunits

12:34am Tue 5 Mar 13

Tomanyunits says...

jowooo wrote:
The problem here is with violence OUTSIDE the venues, the police need to PROPERLY police the centre to cut this down - not try to close the business. People would just fight outside other venues, think of the people employed by Iffy - Bar Staff,Builders,Promo

ters,Printers,Graphi

c Designers,Supplyers,

Drivers,Chefs,Door Staff Etc - do theses all deserve to lose jobs because the police won't do their job?
The sheer mention of cocktail names, proves the stupidity of these idiots
If somebody has been drinking to excess in a venue and then exits forced or not and then attacks passers by or damages property. Whos fault is it? Its the venues for serving him to excess ! That is the law
[quote][p][bold]jowooo[/bold] wrote: The problem here is with violence OUTSIDE the venues, the police need to PROPERLY police the centre to cut this down - not try to close the business. People would just fight outside other venues, think of the people employed by Iffy - Bar Staff,Builders,Promo ters,Printers,Graphi c Designers,Supplyers, Drivers,Chefs,Door Staff Etc - do theses all deserve to lose jobs because the police won't do their job? The sheer mention of cocktail names, proves the stupidity of these idiots[/p][/quote]If somebody has been drinking to excess in a venue and then exits forced or not and then attacks passers by or damages property. Whos fault is it? Its the venues for serving him to excess ! That is the law Tomanyunits

12:49am Tue 5 Mar 13

Tomanyunits says...

Iftika offers a club hopper wrist band, many abuse this by buying one in meze as a way to gain access to delilahs were the alchahol is much cheaper and aimed at a younger student crowd. They then binge away knowing full well they will be ejectted for being to old or to drunk. Then as the figures reflect there anger taken out outside the venue in cambrain rd. The most dangerous street in wales. How can anyone alow this to continue? I do not wish for my children to grow up with the most dangerous of anything near them
Iftika offers a club hopper wrist band, many abuse this by buying one in meze as a way to gain access to delilahs were the alchahol is much cheaper and aimed at a younger student crowd. They then binge away knowing full well they will be ejectted for being to old or to drunk. Then as the figures reflect there anger taken out outside the venue in cambrain rd. The most dangerous street in wales. How can anyone alow this to continue? I do not wish for my children to grow up with the most dangerous of anything near them Tomanyunits

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