Newport set for £7m of cuts despite protests (From South Wales Argus)
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Newport set for £7m of cuts despite protests
9:56am Wednesday 27th February 2013 in News
CUTS of £7 million and a council tax rise of 3.5 per cent were approved by Newport council last night following a heated debate.
Matthew Evans, leader of the Conservatives, was accused of being a “breakfast stealer” after his party proposed to rein in cuts by reducing funds for breakfast clubs and cutting school funding.
Tories argued that parents should be giving children breakfast themselves, but the motion failed and the budget for 2013/14 was passed.
The move by councillors means that a number of cutbacks for the next financial year will go ahead, while council tax will increase by 3.5 per cent.
They include axing Newport’s subsidy to Gwent Music Support Service, shutting Stow Hill library, cuts to the Outdoor Education Service and shutting Underwood Leisure Centre.
Labour members reflected on cuts coming down from the UK government. Council leader Bob Bright said he had never been involved in such a painful and difficult process, while deputy leader Ray Truman said councillors weren’t enjoying having to make savings.
However, Cllr Evans, Tory leader, proposed to make smaller cuts to the music service and the outdoor education service, save Stow Hill library, Underwood Leisure Centre and temporary art exhibitions.
Instead, he proposed that a planned investment of £171,000 for schools’ breakfast clubs was scrapped, and an increase to the schools budget was reduced by 0.3 per cent, saving £270,000.
He said: “It would appear that this administration has managed to attract more protests and petitions over the past four months than we managed in four years.
That’s no mean achievement.”
But the proposals attracted derision from the Labour benches. Cabinet member for human resources Mark Whitcutt referenced the jibe calling Margaret Thatcher a milk snatcher when he said: “Now we have a former leader breakfast stealer”.
Comments(45)
Leigh.
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11:18am Wed 27 Feb 13
paddyparry
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11:23am Wed 27 Feb 13
HurricaneShane
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11:35am Wed 27 Feb 13
Owain Vaughan
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12:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13
HurricaneShane
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1:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Newport Spark
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1:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13
fedupjon
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1:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13
The reality is that insufficient monies are being allocated by the welsh Assembly to cover all the needs, so some painful cuts are having to be made.
I understand there are further service cuts to be announced that will also be unacceptable to the masses.
It may have been helpful if Wales hadnt wasted so much money on the Ryder Cup and Olympic Games because neither have actually proved beneficial to the people of Newport. Just think what could be done with the £22 million spent on upgrading the station.
KarmaSuitsYa
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2:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13
But hey, Newport Council - keep up the good work. It seems, like so many other Councils, none of you can open your mouth, lift up a pen or tap a key on your keyboards without hammering another nail in your own coffins. I sense the day is fast approaching when I can sing 'Ding dong the witch is dead' as I dance, with joy in my heart, around the merrily burning remains of your thoroughly detestable institutions.
I shall look forward to that day with great anticipation.
portforever
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2:10pm Wed 27 Feb 13
blackandamber
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3:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Mr Angry
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3:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13
See how easy it is then
pinpong
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3:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KarmaSuitsYa
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3:58pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Mr Angry wrote:Far as I'm concerned it's not just the people but the institution that needs to take a long walk off a short pier.
Why dont all you keyboard whinge merchants, run for Council yourself and then you decide what service to cut, whos jobs should go etc.
See how easy it is then
See how easy it is then? I suspect my 3 yr old could do it better - with one arm tied behind her back and blindfolded.
In all seriousness, we need to just get rid. Stop this pathetic tendency we have to insist others run our lives, and instead investigate viable ways we can take back the reins ourselves.
33daverave
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4:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KarmaSuitsYa
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4:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13
33daverave wrote:I'm all for a healthy diet for kids, but isn't it bad enough that most of us can't spend time educating our own kids, and instead have to send them to some godawful institution? Do we have to rely on the state to feed them healthy food too?
These breakfast clubs are sometimes the only decent food some kids get.I wouldn't call Matthew Evans a breakfast stealer, more along the lines of scumbag.
For shame!
Votefornoneoftheabove
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4:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13
They say what you want to hear when they want your vote... then do what they want when they get elected.
The citizens of Newport don't have to vote Labour in 2017 because it a historical and cultural thing do what you feel is right not what your parents and grand parents have done.
HurricaneShane
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4:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13
33daverave
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4:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KarmaSuitsYa wrote:Unfortunately yes.Some kids do depend on the state while their parents give them a bag of crisps for tea and a can of pop.
33daverave wrote:I'm all for a healthy diet for kids, but isn't it bad enough that most of us can't spend time educating our own kids, and instead have to send them to some godawful institution? Do we have to rely on the state to feed them healthy food too?
These breakfast clubs are sometimes the only decent food some kids get.I wouldn't call Matthew Evans a breakfast stealer, more along the lines of scumbag.
For shame!
blackandamber
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4:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Mr Angry wrote:Exactly how many people getting paid from the public purse are you happy with Mr Angry 1.The European DISUnion
Why dont all you keyboard whinge merchants, run for Council yourself and then you decide what service to cut, whos jobs should go etc.
See how easy it is then
2.The Westminster government
3 The WAG
4. Newport City Council
All these are taking our money. Now instead of cutting services why not take a few piggies out of the trough for starters.
KarmaSuitsYa
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4:55pm Wed 27 Feb 13
blackandamber wrote:Not entirely correct strictly speaking. You are, in fact, 'giving' your money to the Council - they aren't 'taking' it.
Mr Angry wrote:Exactly how many people getting paid from the public purse are you happy with Mr Angry 1.The European DISUnion
Why dont all you keyboard whinge merchants, run for Council yourself and then you decide what service to cut, whos jobs should go etc.
See how easy it is then
2.The Westminster government
3 The WAG
4. Newport City Council
All these are taking our money. Now instead of cutting services why not take a few piggies out of the trough for starters.
Not happy with it? Stop giving it.
Dave on his Soapbox
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6:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13
St Julians Road is terrible.....and some reported in Mill Street which are likely to cause an accident....are still yet to be patched......
while they might have insurance to cover claims....yet again they are more concerned about building a shopping mall than providing basic services they're supposed to and which we pay for through our council and road tax.
antliz
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6:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13
blackandamber
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6:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KarmaSuitsYa wrote:Very difficult 20% direct taxation, 20% VAT, 11% nat ins, and now another 3.5% on a council tax bill which is practically four figures already.
blackandamber wrote:Not entirely correct strictly speaking. You are, in fact, 'giving' your money to the Council - they aren't 'taking' it.
Mr Angry wrote:Exactly how many people getting paid from the public purse are you happy with Mr Angry 1.The European DISUnion
Why dont all you keyboard whinge merchants, run for Council yourself and then you decide what service to cut, whos jobs should go etc.
See how easy it is then
2.The Westminster government
3 The WAG
4. Newport City Council
All these are taking our money. Now instead of cutting services why not take a few piggies out of the trough for starters.
Not happy with it? Stop giving it.
fedupjon
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7:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13
The real issue here is that the cost of running services are rising faster than the funding provided.
Last night the Argus ran an article on education services and whether or not there was a hidden agenda to transfer powers elsewhere. There is a definite shortfall in funding for education regardless of the views of WAG. But at the same time WAG doesnt have enough money to properly fund education.
If WAG wanted to be proactive it can look to reverse the reorganisation from 1996 which only significantly increased the cost of all services in local government.
If it chooses to do nothing, standards will continue to fall.
KarmaSuitsYa
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7:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13
My point is that you don't have to pay for such awful service - and you don't have to. Just refuse.
hiwsnpt
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7:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Limestonecowboy
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8:19pm Wed 27 Feb 13
47alan47
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8:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13
KarmaSuitsYa wrote:This is a great point, if you work hard you don't need to rely on the council or the government and should be able to afford to pay your taxes.
Mr Angry wrote:Far as I'm concerned it's not just the people but the institution that needs to take a long walk off a short pier.
Why dont all you keyboard whinge merchants, run for Council yourself and then you decide what service to cut, whos jobs should go etc.
See how easy it is then
See how easy it is then? I suspect my 3 yr old could do it better - with one arm tied behind her back and blindfolded.
In all seriousness, we need to just get rid. Stop this pathetic tendency we have to insist others run our lives, and instead investigate viable ways we can take back the reins ourselves.
Llanmartinangel
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10:24pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Limestonecowboy wrote:Haven't you worked it out? Feeding kids is someone else's responsibility now as well as everything else. I wonder what they spend the child benefit on? I wonder how many of these rubbish parents are on Social Services radar?
Breakfast Club? Should parents not be able to afford to feed their children this basic of meals then we are in a great deal of trouble.
Floppy backed
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10:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Llanmartinangel wrote:Yes, but unfortunately, the social system in this country over the last 30 odd yrs has allowed for weak parenting and its inherent to family culture. I do agree that it is parents responsibility to feed them - they don't and it has been proved that children focus better in school on a full belly hence, less disruption to the class and better learning. Sadly I do feel this is needed for the children through no fault of their own are not fed properly and worry that this will have a knock on effect on the school class. This country is full of rubbish parents who cant do the mere basics of bringing up children so perhaps we should be withdrawing child benefit at 3 children and not offering easy housing with all the wonderful benefits they receive.
Limestonecowboy wrote:Haven't you worked it out? Feeding kids is someone else's responsibility now as well as everything else. I wonder what they spend the child benefit on? I wonder how many of these rubbish parents are on Social Services radar?
Breakfast Club? Should parents not be able to afford to feed their children this basic of meals then we are in a great deal of trouble.
Floppy backed
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10:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Llanmartinangel
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11:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Floppy backed wrote:There's merit in that. I wasn't intending to punish the hungry kids but we are on a one way street taking away responsibility from these feckless morons who have kids they don't know how to bring up by the day. It's destroying the rest of society so its counter-productive long term.
Llanmartinangel wrote:Yes, but unfortunately, the social system in this country over the last 30 odd yrs has allowed for weak parenting and its inherent to family culture. I do agree that it is parents responsibility to feed them - they don't and it has been proved that children focus better in school on a full belly hence, less disruption to the class and better learning. Sadly I do feel this is needed for the children through no fault of their own are not fed properly and worry that this will have a knock on effect on the school class. This country is full of rubbish parents who cant do the mere basics of bringing up children so perhaps we should be withdrawing child benefit at 3 children and not offering easy housing with all the wonderful benefits they receive.
Limestonecowboy wrote:Haven't you worked it out? Feeding kids is someone else's responsibility now as well as everything else. I wonder what they spend the child benefit on? I wonder how many of these rubbish parents are on Social Services radar?
Breakfast Club? Should parents not be able to afford to feed their children this basic of meals then we are in a great deal of trouble.
sweetiepie
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12:29am Thu 28 Feb 13
Put it this way - charge say £1 a week - a loaf of bread costs 50p (the supermarkets own make) - any money left over at the end of the week is put into the school /PTA funds - the PTA could even support this!!
Why is it always the things that involve the children that are cut? The music that Lizzie mentioned above - I couldn't agree with more! I played an instrument when in school and loved it, just wished I had carried on in adulthood.
Expenses need to be cut! A council worker told that if they drove further than 70 miles in their own car for work, they had to get a hire vehicle. What???
MPs being allowed to claim rent for second homes - seriously??
The whole country is a joke!
blythespirits
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10:36am Thu 28 Feb 13
What will happen here is that some parents will jump on the bandwagon, delegate their responsibilities and take advantage of freebies from the state.
So what if Mrs Thatcher abolished free school milk. Is there any hard evidence that children’s health has suffered in the last 33 years because of it? Are today’s children suffering from weak bones and teeth, I don’t think so. If children have health issues today it is because of lack of exercise and uncontrolled intake of junk food, sweets and fizzy drinks.
Closing leisure centres and selling off playing fields is doing far more harm to children’s health than the abolition of free school milk.
Independentvoter
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5:40pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Especially when some Councillors have enjoyed Free Civic Lunches for decades.
scraptheWAG
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8:35am Sat 2 Mar 13
Newport Spark wrote:where is your money going well take a look at the taxpayers alliance web site there are about 5 or 6 employees collecting over 100 k a year there is actually and dont laugh a REGENERATION officer on 100k a year for a town like you say looks like mad max.
3.5%? Can someone please explain where our money is going. Last time I walked through Newport I thought Mad Max 4 was being filmed. Imagine if we actually had a city fit for the 21st century what the council tax would be. Suppose we should be grateful.
scraptheWAG
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9:01am Sat 2 Mar 13
Ranger12
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9:53am Sat 2 Mar 13
Labour love to grow the nanny state if they can get more people to rely on hand outs they can create more jobs for their cronies and drive the city to bankruptcy.
You only have to drive around Newport to see what decades of labour ideas has created no shops no hope no idea!
welshmen
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12:10pm Sat 2 Mar 13
scraptheWAG
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8:08pm Sat 2 Mar 13
scraptheWAG
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8:40am Sun 3 Mar 13
Cymru Am Beth
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11:01am Sun 3 Mar 13
VotefornoneoftheabovAgree entirely.
e wrote:
In 2017 remember Vote For...... NONE OF THE ABOVE!
They say what you want to hear when they want your vote... then do what they want when they get elected.
The citizens of Newport don't have to vote Labour in 2017 because it a historical and cultural thing do what you feel is right not what your parents and grand parents have done.
However, if you put a sheep up for election as a Labour Candidate it would still command a sizeable majority.
Most of the voters wouldn't notice, they would mechanically put there cross against Labour because that is who they have always voted for.
blythespirits
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3:53pm Mon 4 Mar 13
dailoco
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6:54pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Independentvoter says...
11:18am Wed 27 Feb 13
Sort this mess out that you have both created !
These councillors are paid to help our communities and what do we get in return ?
Petty party politics " well your government done this and your govenment done that "
We are not really interested what thatcher did in the 80's. You should be fighting to help poverty stricken families. They want to stop the funding to feed a hungry child.
I guess they have never been without a meal before. I wonder sometimes if they are on another planet.