Report calls for Welsh schools to do more over poverty

SCHOOL leaders must do more to break the link between child poverty and poor performance, according to a new report out today.

Schools’ inspectorate Estyn found that the link between disadvantage and educational underachievement was as strong as ever and local authorities did not always share information about disadvantaged learners with other agencies.

The report, commissioned by the Welsh Assembly Government, also found there are not enough training opportunities for school leaders to learn about poverty.

Chief inspector Ann Keane said: “I urge all head teachers and senior leaders to consider how well their school understands the needs of disadvantaged learners and to evaluate how well they work with outside agencies so that the impact of poverty on achievement is tackled.”

Providers that engage families in school life have noticed improvements in pupils’ confidence, attitudes to learning and attendance rates.

The report is called Working Together to tackle the Impact of Poverty on Educational Achievement.

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9:19am Tue 10 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Poverty is not the issue. The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one. What there is an attitude problem where the parents don't regard education as important and the parents don't really care if their children do not do well and do not care if they do not attend school. This attitude rubs off on to the children who then under achieve. It is almost a cultural problem

It gets compounded by teachers and GP's who will then label them with ADHD or something similar and this then become a reinforcement of the under achievment
Poverty is not the issue. The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one. What there is an attitude problem where the parents don't regard education as important and the parents don't really care if their children do not do well and do not care if they do not attend school. This attitude rubs off on to the children who then under achieve. It is almost a cultural problem It gets compounded by teachers and GP's who will then label them with ADHD or something similar and this then become a reinforcement of the under achievment Bobevans

9:57am Tue 10 Dec 13

Floppy backed says...

Dont schools already do enough???? Some supply free breakfast clubs & lunch. Parents get tax credits which in some cases are very generous. Some school will even dress them FOC. What more can schools do apart from turning themselves into boarding schools to protect these children. No wonder countries like Scandinavia are so high up in the league they haven't got all this hassle of trying to parent these poor children instead of educating them.

Agree there is a cultural problem in this country. I feel for teachers who have to see this everyday must be incredibly frustrating.

I will always believe the problem is the benefit system its allowing constant breeding with no regard to parenting its all emphasis on having a 'baby' not having a demanding child. The majority of us have 2 children about time they put a threshold on family allowance and tax credits its just so easy.
Dont schools already do enough???? Some supply free breakfast clubs & lunch. Parents get tax credits which in some cases are very generous. Some school will even dress them FOC. What more can schools do apart from turning themselves into boarding schools to protect these children. No wonder countries like Scandinavia are so high up in the league they haven't got all this hassle of trying to parent these poor children instead of educating them. Agree there is a cultural problem in this country. I feel for teachers who have to see this everyday must be incredibly frustrating. I will always believe the problem is the benefit system its allowing constant breeding with no regard to parenting its all emphasis on having a 'baby' not having a demanding child. The majority of us have 2 children about time they put a threshold on family allowance and tax credits its just so easy. Floppy backed

12:24pm Tue 10 Dec 13

whatintheworld says...

i agree that we have a culture problem, but for bobevans to say "The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one" is stupid.

there are countless studies, from all over the world PROVING that there is a link between poverty and educational attainment.

wales is disproportianly worse off than the rest of the uk - this is one of the reasons our kids arent doing as well as their peers.

floppy backed is right, our schools already do so much. its the parents, and the fact we're so poor as a nation that is the problem.
i agree that we have a culture problem, but for bobevans to say "The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one" is stupid. there are countless studies, from all over the world PROVING that there is a link between poverty and educational attainment. wales is disproportianly worse off than the rest of the uk - this is one of the reasons our kids arent doing as well as their peers. floppy backed is right, our schools already do so much. its the parents, and the fact we're so poor as a nation that is the problem. whatintheworld

12:34pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Floppy backed wrote:
Dont schools already do enough???? Some supply free breakfast clubs & lunch. Parents get tax credits which in some cases are very generous. Some school will even dress them FOC. What more can schools do apart from turning themselves into boarding schools to protect these children. No wonder countries like Scandinavia are so high up in the league they haven't got all this hassle of trying to parent these poor children instead of educating them.

Agree there is a cultural problem in this country. I feel for teachers who have to see this everyday must be incredibly frustrating.

I will always believe the problem is the benefit system its allowing constant breeding with no regard to parenting its all emphasis on having a 'baby' not having a demanding child. The majority of us have 2 children about time they put a threshold on family allowance and tax credits its just so easy.
Yep. All true.
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: Dont schools already do enough???? Some supply free breakfast clubs & lunch. Parents get tax credits which in some cases are very generous. Some school will even dress them FOC. What more can schools do apart from turning themselves into boarding schools to protect these children. No wonder countries like Scandinavia are so high up in the league they haven't got all this hassle of trying to parent these poor children instead of educating them. Agree there is a cultural problem in this country. I feel for teachers who have to see this everyday must be incredibly frustrating. I will always believe the problem is the benefit system its allowing constant breeding with no regard to parenting its all emphasis on having a 'baby' not having a demanding child. The majority of us have 2 children about time they put a threshold on family allowance and tax credits its just so easy.[/p][/quote]Yep. All true. Llanmartinangel

3:39pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

whatintheworld wrote:
i agree that we have a culture problem, but for bobevans to say "The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one" is stupid.

there are countless studies, from all over the world PROVING that there is a link between poverty and educational attainment.

wales is disproportianly worse off than the rest of the uk - this is one of the reasons our kids arent doing as well as their peers.

floppy backed is right, our schools already do so much. its the parents, and the fact we're so poor as a nation that is the problem.
That link does not exist. Look at the educational attainment in China, India & Africa where there is real poverty. Poverty is used as an excuse. The problem is the parents do not value education
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: i agree that we have a culture problem, but for bobevans to say "The link between e3ducation and poverty is a false one" is stupid. there are countless studies, from all over the world PROVING that there is a link between poverty and educational attainment. wales is disproportianly worse off than the rest of the uk - this is one of the reasons our kids arent doing as well as their peers. floppy backed is right, our schools already do so much. its the parents, and the fact we're so poor as a nation that is the problem.[/p][/quote]That link does not exist. Look at the educational attainment in China, India & Africa where there is real poverty. Poverty is used as an excuse. The problem is the parents do not value education Bobevans

8:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Limestonecowboy says...

Parents unable to afford breakfast for their young just what has become of us?
Parents unable to afford breakfast for their young just what has become of us? Limestonecowboy

8:55pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Dai Rear says...

Since 1968 free, safe and effective contraception has been available to all. There is absolutely no reason why children should be born to those who are not prepared to pay for their growing up, and by the same token, take an interest in it (the same thing). In those days we all thought that the housemaid's baby was history, not a role model.
Aggressive welfarism is the cause of this. People like Brown can afford to keep and bring up their children and care about them . Sadly the man hadn't the wit to understand that many of the people around him were not the same. A college boy who knew, and knows, nothing about Life.
Since 1968 free, safe and effective contraception has been available to all. There is absolutely no reason why children should be born to those who are not prepared to pay for their growing up, and by the same token, take an interest in it (the same thing). In those days we all thought that the housemaid's baby was history, not a role model. Aggressive welfarism is the cause of this. People like Brown can afford to keep and bring up their children and care about them . Sadly the man hadn't the wit to understand that many of the people around him were not the same. A college boy who knew, and knows, nothing about Life. Dai Rear

11:04pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Welshman76 says...

If you read the estyn article, it says that schools should work with families and thus change their attitudes to their child's education through family projects. All about engaging with parents and overcoming barriers!
If you read the estyn article, it says that schools should work with families and thus change their attitudes to their child's education through family projects. All about engaging with parents and overcoming barriers! Welshman76

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