Fewer than 30 join Newport cuts talks

FEWER than 30 people have taken part in public consultation meetings over proposals for millions of pounds of cuts to Newport council’s budget, it has emerged.

The authority says it is vital that people take part in the consultation, and there are further meetings set to take place on Thursday.

The public consultation on proposals to deliver £25 million in savings over four years is currently consulting on a range of proposals, stretching from public toilets to council tax rises.

It has planned three days of meetings for residents to discuss the plans, but a council spokesman has told the Argus that 25 people attended the two that have taken place so far.

The consultations took place at Malpas Court, on December 16, and Newport Stadium, on December 18, with two sessions on each day.

The spokesman added that as of last Thursday 12 people had contributed to the consultation online.

No letters had been written in by that date.

The figures are in contrast to recent consultations over finances at Monmouthshire council.

There more than 450 people gave their own money-saving ideas following a series of community engagement meetings in Abergavenny, Caldicot and Monmouth.

Proposals in the consultation include raising council tax by five per cent every year for four years, Newport libraries closing for one day a week, shutting public toilets and ending the budget for the Newport Ship.

A Newport council spokeswoman said: “Newport City Council’s cabinet has put forward a comprehensive list of budget proposals for public consultation as it seeks to save £25 million over the next four years.

“Every aspect of the council’s operation is being examined and it is vitally important that people take part in the budget consultation and use this opportunity to share their views.

“Residents can have their say via the online consultation, in person at a public event, write to us or contact us via social media – every response will be reviewed and considered before any final proposals are taken forward.”

Further budget meetings are taking place at Newport Centre on Thursday at 12pm to 2pm and 5pm to 7pm.

The consultation closes at midnight on Friday January 24.

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10:05am Tue 14 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Urging people to participate in the demise of the community the council are supposed to be protecting, will not change the obvious fact that both Westminster and local councils have lost the support of the people, and no longer have any right to rule us.

I won't be supporting any consultation process that doesn't first work towards removing our sham of a corrupt and unaccountable (supposedly) democratic process, and replacing it with something that works.
Urging people to participate in the demise of the community the council are supposed to be protecting, will not change the obvious fact that both Westminster and local councils have lost the support of the people, and no longer have any right to rule us. I won't be supporting any consultation process that doesn't first work towards removing our sham of a corrupt and unaccountable (supposedly) democratic process, and replacing it with something that works. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 7

10:37am Tue 14 Jan 14

gathin says...

Haven't you worked out that the public have been dumped on at every opportunity in the past and have lost faith in the entire system?
You haven't listened in the past why, oh why do you think that we've forgotten that?
Just give the money that you intend to waste on this project instead...
It is exactly the same with the "quantitive easing" where billions of tax-payers money was given to the banks where as if all that money was dished out to the public it would have been spent in the economy thus saving it!
Duuuurrrrr?
Haven't you worked out that the public have been dumped on at every opportunity in the past and have lost faith in the entire system? You haven't listened in the past why, oh why do you think that we've forgotten that? Just give the money that you intend to waste on this project instead... It is exactly the same with the "quantitive easing" where billions of tax-payers money was given to the banks where as if all that money was dished out to the public it would have been spent in the economy thus saving it! Duuuurrrrr? gathin
  • Score: 6

10:37am Tue 14 Jan 14

33daverave says...

£850,000 could have been saved by not wasting it on smaller bins which will just lead to fly-tipping.
What idiot dreamed up that chestnut ?
£850,000 could have been saved by not wasting it on smaller bins which will just lead to fly-tipping. What idiot dreamed up that chestnut ? 33daverave
  • Score: 12

11:01am Tue 14 Jan 14

On the inside says...

So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.
So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting. On the inside
  • Score: 0

11:23am Tue 14 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

On the inside wrote:
So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.
You and your brethren still don't get the message Cllr on the inside, do you? If this method of consultation doesn't work (and asking people to attend meetings classically fails to engage the public) why don't you find a better method? You keep plugging away with the same old failed methods.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.[/p][/quote]You and your brethren still don't get the message Cllr on the inside, do you? If this method of consultation doesn't work (and asking people to attend meetings classically fails to engage the public) why don't you find a better method? You keep plugging away with the same old failed methods. Woodgnome
  • Score: 9

11:30am Tue 14 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

On the inside wrote:
So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.
Oh please - don't pretend that the current government structure doesn't exploit the majority fo the population for the benefit of the minority.

You want more voter participation? Give people a REAL choice at the ballot box instead of just various shades of right wing/ authoritarian representatives, whose only real purpose is to give the people as little as possible to keep them quiet and civil, whilst simultaneously screwing them ot of every penny possible for the benefit of the 1%.

There are dozens of other forms of government and political and social organisation that are possible. We want CHOICE and we want CHANGE, and whether you like it or not, no amount of pretending that the current State has ANY morally justifiable mandate is going to change that. Their time is over. We know it. You know it. The only reason the State still has control is because we have no choice in the matter.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.[/p][/quote]Oh please - don't pretend that the current government structure doesn't exploit the majority fo the population for the benefit of the minority. You want more voter participation? Give people a REAL choice at the ballot box instead of just various shades of right wing/ authoritarian representatives, whose only real purpose is to give the people as little as possible to keep them quiet and civil, whilst simultaneously screwing them ot of every penny possible for the benefit of the 1%. There are dozens of other forms of government and political and social organisation that are possible. We want CHOICE and we want CHANGE, and whether you like it or not, no amount of pretending that the current State has ANY morally justifiable mandate is going to change that. Their time is over. We know it. You know it. The only reason the State still has control is because we have no choice in the matter. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 3

12:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

On the inside says...

Woodgnome wrote:
On the inside wrote:
So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.
You and your brethren still don't get the message Cllr on the inside, do you? If this method of consultation doesn't work (and asking people to attend meetings classically fails to engage the public) why don't you find a better method? You keep plugging away with the same old failed methods.
I am not a Newport Cllr (or any other surrounding council) and never have been. Just someone who can be bothered to show an interest in society beyond blogging on this site.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: So the majority of people in Newport do not involve themselves in consultation exercises and cannot be bothered to drag their backsides to a polling station at election time yet every decision the councillors make is wrong. Yeah, that would be right. It is time for compulsory voter registration and voting.[/p][/quote]You and your brethren still don't get the message Cllr on the inside, do you? If this method of consultation doesn't work (and asking people to attend meetings classically fails to engage the public) why don't you find a better method? You keep plugging away with the same old failed methods.[/p][/quote]I am not a Newport Cllr (or any other surrounding council) and never have been. Just someone who can be bothered to show an interest in society beyond blogging on this site. On the inside
  • Score: 3

1:31pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Dolieboy says...

I see there is a negative spin on this. Headline could have read, more than 25 interested in cuts.
I see there is a negative spin on this. Headline could have read, more than 25 interested in cuts. Dolieboy
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

JENKO1965 says...

whats the point of turning up when useless waste of space council just go ahead and do want they want anyway eg; the murial, pity we cant vote to get these morons out every 6 months and they get no pay once they've been voted out,THEN you might see them doing something and listening to the people of Newport, until then they will just go and do what they want
whats the point of turning up when useless waste of space council just go ahead and do want they want anyway eg; the murial, pity we cant vote to get these morons out every 6 months and they get no pay once they've been voted out,THEN you might see them doing something and listening to the people of Newport, until then they will just go and do what they want JENKO1965
  • Score: 7

1:55pm Tue 14 Jan 14

DavidMclean says...

JENKO1965 wrote:
whats the point of turning up when useless waste of space council just go ahead and do want they want anyway eg; the murial, pity we cant vote to get these morons out every 6 months and they get no pay once they've been voted out,THEN you might see them doing something and listening to the people of Newport, until then they will just go and do what they want
Indeed. They have form in not listening. It's too easy to assume they will press on regardless and any consultation is simply a box to tick.
[quote][p][bold]JENKO1965[/bold] wrote: whats the point of turning up when useless waste of space council just go ahead and do want they want anyway eg; the murial, pity we cant vote to get these morons out every 6 months and they get no pay once they've been voted out,THEN you might see them doing something and listening to the people of Newport, until then they will just go and do what they want[/p][/quote]Indeed. They have form in not listening. It's too easy to assume they will press on regardless and any consultation is simply a box to tick. DavidMclean
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Mr Bump. says...

They should stop providing transport for children to cross the city to attend St Josephs. If parents want their kids to go to this facility then they should pay their fares.
They should stop providing transport for children to cross the city to attend St Josephs. If parents want their kids to go to this facility then they should pay their fares. Mr Bump.
  • Score: 11

4:41pm Tue 14 Jan 14

33daverave says...

Don't forget these policies are down to the UNELECTED civil servants, not the Councillors.
They have to vote them through.
Don't forget these policies are down to the UNELECTED civil servants, not the Councillors. They have to vote them through. 33daverave
  • Score: -1

4:53pm Tue 14 Jan 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

I think mushrooms spot on here, why bother with something that your just going to get steamrolled over anyway. Also whats the point of holding meetings at the far ends of the City. To be honest I have not voted in 16 years, I would do though if there was a tick box for no confidence in the current system. I mean the majority of councilors, politicians and misc other officials only ever end up doing whats right by them, trying to not let the mud stck and by being way to PC. The time I vote is when someone stands up and does whats right and needs to be done. Someone who speaks their minds and isn't affraid to be bold, someone who wants to do right by the people gets my vote. What doesn't get my vote are the likes of those that brushed the tearing down of the chartist mamorial and the sniviling little ikes that are only interested in making sure that their backs are covered and their mates. It's still a job for the boys mentality and you scrub my back and I'll scrub yours. Well I'm sick to death of it, if I could afford to leave the country I would. What really annoys me is that it's those that struggle to get by are the ones that are being dumped on. I'm not talking about the lazy and work shy but those that are on state pensions, working but still on the poverty borderline. For all tony blairs wrongs he still tried to do right by these people and the conservatives have stripped it away bit by bit so that those in need of the welfare that the system was designed for are now having to resort to the hand outs of the food banks. It has been a tight few years but whats happening to claiming the millions if not billions of tax that is "LEGALLY" being shipped abroad, oh thats right it comes down to the "If we change that loop hole then we wont be able to use it" So why don't I attend meetings of this nature, well because it wont make a bit of difference what I say thats why.....
I think mushrooms spot on here, why bother with something that your just going to get steamrolled over anyway. Also whats the point of holding meetings at the far ends of the City. To be honest I have not voted in 16 years, I would do though if there was a tick box for no confidence in the current system. I mean the majority of councilors, politicians and misc other officials only ever end up doing whats right by them, trying to not let the mud stck and by being way to PC. The time I vote is when someone stands up and does whats right and needs to be done. Someone who speaks their minds and isn't affraid to be bold, someone who wants to do right by the people gets my vote. What doesn't get my vote are the likes of those that brushed the tearing down of the chartist mamorial and the sniviling little ikes that are only interested in making sure that their backs are covered and their mates. It's still a job for the boys mentality and you scrub my back and I'll scrub yours. Well I'm sick to death of it, if I could afford to leave the country I would. What really annoys me is that it's those that struggle to get by are the ones that are being dumped on. I'm not talking about the lazy and work shy but those that are on state pensions, working but still on the poverty borderline. For all tony blairs wrongs he still tried to do right by these people and the conservatives have stripped it away bit by bit so that those in need of the welfare that the system was designed for are now having to resort to the hand outs of the food banks. It has been a tight few years but whats happening to claiming the millions if not billions of tax that is "LEGALLY" being shipped abroad, oh thats right it comes down to the "If we change that loop hole then we wont be able to use it" So why don't I attend meetings of this nature, well because it wont make a bit of difference what I say thats why..... grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Mr Holder says...

33daverave wrote:
£850,000 could have been saved by not wasting it on smaller bins which will just lead to fly-tipping.
What idiot dreamed up that chestnut ?
That will be E.U regulations on the use of landfill by local authorities, if they exceed the amount they face fines of £64 per tonne.
[quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: £850,000 could have been saved by not wasting it on smaller bins which will just lead to fly-tipping. What idiot dreamed up that chestnut ?[/p][/quote]That will be E.U regulations on the use of landfill by local authorities, if they exceed the amount they face fines of £64 per tonne. Mr Holder
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Bobevans says...

It is very much behind the times to just hold a public meeting. The full information should be published on the Internet at present there is also zero information other than very high level suggested cuts to budgets

The meeting ought to be relayed to the Internet as well
It is very much behind the times to just hold a public meeting. The full information should be published on the Internet at present there is also zero information other than very high level suggested cuts to budgets The meeting ought to be relayed to the Internet as well Bobevans
  • Score: -1

5:16pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Magor says...

What do you expect when the majority of people dont use these "essential" sevices.It would be different if they were stopping emptying the bins.
What do you expect when the majority of people dont use these "essential" sevices.It would be different if they were stopping emptying the bins. Magor
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

Bobevans wrote:
It is very much behind the times to just hold a public meeting. The full information should be published on the Internet at present there is also zero information other than very high level suggested cuts to budgets

The meeting ought to be relayed to the Internet as well
Spot on Bob. The ruling group should tell us in detail what they have in mind.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: It is very much behind the times to just hold a public meeting. The full information should be published on the Internet at present there is also zero information other than very high level suggested cuts to budgets The meeting ought to be relayed to the Internet as well[/p][/quote]Spot on Bob. The ruling group should tell us in detail what they have in mind. Woodgnome
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Bobevans says...

Can anyone translate this one into English?

Included in budget pressures is school's demographic pressure of £150k net and funding of redundancy costs within schools at £500k. It is proposed that we reduce School's budget to match the pressure for school based
redundancies which will enable us to create a 'budget' for this pressure and for the School's to absorb the demographic pressure in 14/15.
Can anyone translate this one into English? Included in budget pressures is school's demographic pressure of £150k net and funding of redundancy costs within schools at £500k. It is proposed that we reduce School's budget to match the pressure for school based redundancies which will enable us to create a 'budget' for this pressure and for the School's to absorb the demographic pressure in 14/15. Bobevans
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Bobevans says...

I have gone through them. Many are incomprehensible

I also see next to nothing about improving efficiency in how Newport Council is run and almost nothing about sharing services and resources. It is nearly all focused on cuts to end users services
I have gone through them. Many are incomprehensible I also see next to nothing about improving efficiency in how Newport Council is run and almost nothing about sharing services and resources. It is nearly all focused on cuts to end users services Bobevans
  • Score: 1

5:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

The trouth is the council hasn't got a clue about sharing resources and reducing overheads, they'd rather farm it out to contractors that would charge a premium on sharing. Easier to shift the blame of expenses to a contractor that can be changed than to think about the possibility of thier chums getting the chop, which happens in the private sector all the time. They couldn't manage a budget if they lost the keys to the safe, oh hangon they've done that already haven't they?
The trouth is the council hasn't got a clue about sharing resources and reducing overheads, they'd rather farm it out to contractors that would charge a premium on sharing. Easier to shift the blame of expenses to a contractor that can be changed than to think about the possibility of thier chums getting the chop, which happens in the private sector all the time. They couldn't manage a budget if they lost the keys to the safe, oh hangon they've done that already haven't they? grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: -1

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