Call for increase in number of AMs

South Wales Argus: CALL FOR MORE AMS: Presiding Officer of the National Assembly and Newport West AM Dame Rosemary Butler CALL FOR MORE AMS: Presiding Officer of the National Assembly and Newport West AM Dame Rosemary Butler

DAME Rosemary Butler has repeated calls for the Senedd to increase in size from 60 members to 80 assembly members.

The Presiding Officer of the National Assembly and Newport West AM told the Welsh Affairs Committee in Cardiff yesterday morning: “I have said this and I will continue to say it: we do not have enough members.”

She said she thinks a total of 80 members would be sufficient to scrutinise the Welsh Government and said the chamber was too small to do it at the moment.

On the same day a committee proposed a cut in the number of councils in Wales, she said: “We can manage and we will manage but if we had more members we would manage in a much more sensible manner.”

“You can go to Westminster and have the luxury to specialise in something, whereas here the members don’t have that opportunity because they’re going to have to do the run of the mill scrutiny and other jobs. For example, you might have party responsibilities and a whole range of things that make it quite difficult to get off that treadmill.”

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5:18pm Tue 21 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

I'll take a job as an AM.
I'll take a job as an AM. GardenVarietyMushroom

5:49pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

Is this a joke? The whole WAG should be abolished and the AM's. Haven't seen one around here for yonks.
Is this a joke? The whole WAG should be abolished and the AM's. Haven't seen one around here for yonks. Banjalucka

5:49pm Tue 21 Jan 14

regaturn says...

I almost felt sorry for her for a second, still if she's not happy she could always change her job, call centre, Mcdonalds?
I almost felt sorry for her for a second, still if she's not happy she could always change her job, call centre, Mcdonalds? regaturn

6:02pm Tue 21 Jan 14

siameselady says...

No way!
No way! siameselady

6:14pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Mr Bump. says...

As someone who voted for Welsh devolution and yes for more powers, I've been really let down by these time wasters, it's all been a bit of a damp squib hasn't it? Have you seen the way they drivel on in that assembly? Give me Westminster and their pantomime entertainment any day..
As someone who voted for Welsh devolution and yes for more powers, I've been really let down by these time wasters, it's all been a bit of a damp squib hasn't it? Have you seen the way they drivel on in that assembly? Give me Westminster and their pantomime entertainment any day.. Mr Bump.

6:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

On the inside says...

She is right.
She is right. On the inside

6:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Newport Spark says...

What a great idea idea.More beauracracy.Here is another great idea.Why don't the 60 AMs we have now take a one third drop in wages and that can pay for the 20 new ones.If she wants them,pay for them and save us some money.People have been taking wage drops and working harder during the downturn so these waste of spaces can also.
What a great idea idea.More beauracracy.Here is another great idea.Why don't the 60 AMs we have now take a one third drop in wages and that can pay for the 20 new ones.If she wants them,pay for them and save us some money.People have been taking wage drops and working harder during the downturn so these waste of spaces can also. Newport Spark

6:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Newport Spark wrote:
What a great idea idea.More beauracracy.Here is another great idea.Why don't the 60 AMs we have now take a one third drop in wages and that can pay for the 20 new ones.If she wants them,pay for them and save us some money.People have been taking wage drops and working harder during the downturn so these waste of spaces can also.
Best suggestion so far.
[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote: What a great idea idea.More beauracracy.Here is another great idea.Why don't the 60 AMs we have now take a one third drop in wages and that can pay for the 20 new ones.If she wants them,pay for them and save us some money.People have been taking wage drops and working harder during the downturn so these waste of spaces can also.[/p][/quote]Best suggestion so far. GardenVarietyMushroom

6:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

jimmysmith says...

dont talk stupid woman .the lot already there are a waste of time and only out for themselves and fleecing the taxpayer .arrogant fools like this make my blood boil
dont talk stupid woman .the lot already there are a waste of time and only out for themselves and fleecing the taxpayer .arrogant fools like this make my blood boil jimmysmith

7:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

mep says...

Perhaps if they cut all their extended holidays out they would manage better. As for RB, as a second rate politician, like many of her colleagues in Cardiff Bay,she has done very well out of devolution if it's too much for her she can always pack it in.
Perhaps if they cut all their extended holidays out they would manage better. As for RB, as a second rate politician, like many of her colleagues in Cardiff Bay,she has done very well out of devolution if it's too much for her she can always pack it in. mep

7:09pm Tue 21 Jan 14

rightsideup says...

She's just been made a 'Dame'-makes you wonder!.............
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She's just been made a 'Dame'-makes you wonder!............. ... rightsideup

7:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

Wales is awash with politicians. Substantial reduction needed not an increase. She's off her parliamentary trolley.
Wales is awash with politicians. Substantial reduction needed not an increase. She's off her parliamentary trolley. Woodgnome

7:34pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Monmouthshire Merlin says...

The Williams report has recommended the merger of local authorities which I believe most can see the logic for.
Why do we need an administration in Cardiff bay to administer these authorities. If we fund the new authorities directly from the treasury then you do not need to waste Millions on the Welsh Assembly.
Surely, that is devolution . Locally elected representatives, delivering services locally for the electorate.
The Williams report has recommended the merger of local authorities which I believe most can see the logic for. Why do we need an administration in Cardiff bay to administer these authorities. If we fund the new authorities directly from the treasury then you do not need to waste Millions on the Welsh Assembly. Surely, that is devolution . Locally elected representatives, delivering services locally for the electorate. Monmouthshire Merlin

8:02pm Tue 21 Jan 14

theviking666 says...

only a fool would think, this is right thing to do now
only a fool would think, this is right thing to do now theviking666

8:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

i bet she does and a massive pay rise and earlier retirement and a jet to get to work I bet everyone who voted for this pile of crap must be chuffed
i bet she does and a massive pay rise and earlier retirement and a jet to get to work I bet everyone who voted for this pile of crap must be chuffed scraptheWAG

8:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
As someone who voted for Welsh devolution and yes for more powers, I've been really let down by these time wasters, it's all been a bit of a damp squib hasn't it? Have you seen the way they drivel on in that assembly? Give me Westminster and their pantomime entertainment any day..
old uncle carwyn had you good and proper mate well at least him and his cronies are laughing
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: As someone who voted for Welsh devolution and yes for more powers, I've been really let down by these time wasters, it's all been a bit of a damp squib hasn't it? Have you seen the way they drivel on in that assembly? Give me Westminster and their pantomime entertainment any day..[/p][/quote]old uncle carwyn had you good and proper mate well at least him and his cronies are laughing scraptheWAG

8:33pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ollie254 says...

Excellent idea. Each extra AM would have an office manager and secretarial staff so we could pick up the bill for them as well. And then there's the extra office space, I know lets build an extension to the current building to accommodate the extra staff. And then they can all have pensions for the rest if their lives. We really are all in this together.
As we are represented by Councilors ,MEP,s AM,s. and MP,s I think the level of representation we have at this time is more than enough. Especially when you only see then every five years or so. NO.
Excellent idea. Each extra AM would have an office manager and secretarial staff so we could pick up the bill for them as well. And then there's the extra office space, I know lets build an extension to the current building to accommodate the extra staff. And then they can all have pensions for the rest if their lives. We really are all in this together. As we are represented by Councilors ,MEP,s AM,s. and MP,s I think the level of representation we have at this time is more than enough. Especially when you only see then every five years or so. NO. Ollie254

8:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

pillboy says...

The pantomime Dame wants to make the pantomime cast larger!
The pantomime Dame wants to make the pantomime cast larger! pillboy

9:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

No Welshies in support of RB??
No Welshies in support of RB?? Banjalucka

10:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

theviking666 wrote:
only a fool would think, this is right thing to do now
Makes it a safe WAG vote then eh.
[quote][p][bold]theviking666[/bold] wrote: only a fool would think, this is right thing to do now[/p][/quote]Makes it a safe WAG vote then eh. Llanmartinangel

10:06pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

On the inside wrote:
She is right.
Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: She is right.[/p][/quote]Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here. Llanmartinangel

7:52am Wed 22 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
On the inside wrote:
She is right.
Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here.
He pretends he's not a Labour Councillor - but he spouts just like one.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: She is right.[/p][/quote]Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here.[/p][/quote]He pretends he's not a Labour Councillor - but he spouts just like one. Woodgnome

8:43am Wed 22 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Woodgnome wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
On the inside wrote:
She is right.
Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here.
He pretends he's not a Labour Councillor - but he spouts just like one.
Yes because to a socialist, the more worthless cretins you can crowbar into meaningless but highly paid taxpayer funded jobs the better. We have the worst education and health service in the UK after thirteen years of this expensive bunch. The solution to solving those issues is even more AMs? Nuts.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: She is right.[/p][/quote]Being right would be a whole new experience for you given the groundswell on here.[/p][/quote]He pretends he's not a Labour Councillor - but he spouts just like one.[/p][/quote]Yes because to a socialist, the more worthless cretins you can crowbar into meaningless but highly paid taxpayer funded jobs the better. We have the worst education and health service in the UK after thirteen years of this expensive bunch. The solution to solving those issues is even more AMs? Nuts. Llanmartinangel

11:03am Wed 22 Jan 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

Maybe WAG would be more effective if they were bigger but you would need a credible independent review to establish that. Butler raising this at this time just shows how out-of-touch she is with the people she is supposed to represent. Butler and Griffiths have no credibility because they've done less than nothing for Newport since they were elected in 1999. Please - someone stand as Independent for the next elections in Newport.
Maybe WAG would be more effective if they were bigger but you would need a credible independent review to establish that. Butler raising this at this time just shows how out-of-touch she is with the people she is supposed to represent. Butler and Griffiths have no credibility because they've done less than nothing for Newport since they were elected in 1999. Please - someone stand as Independent for the next elections in Newport. Thomas O'Malley

11:34am Wed 22 Jan 14

p stani says...

Less would be great,even better get rid of it,What planet is she on.
Less would be great,even better get rid of it,What planet is she on. p stani

1:26pm Wed 22 Jan 14

gingertom says...

It beggars belief that this woman was made a dame especially in light of the state of newport town centre. The regeneration is no good when yesterday the business section of the argus is bulling up the sptty area of shops. This latest comment by her show how out of touch she is with the general public. The people of newport need to get her off the gravy train at the earliest opportunity.
It beggars belief that this woman was made a dame especially in light of the state of newport town centre. The regeneration is no good when yesterday the business section of the argus is bulling up the sptty area of shops. This latest comment by her show how out of touch she is with the general public. The people of newport need to get her off the gravy train at the earliest opportunity. gingertom

9:27am Thu 23 Jan 14

varteg1 says...

Well, as most supporters often make the claim they gained the Assembly by a democratic vote in it's favour, which was itself based on opinion poll results showing a majority in support, how about extrapolating the number of antipathetic comments on here to show just how a new 'referendum' would show an entirely different outcome for the continuation of the mess in the Bay of Pigs?
Butler must have a blindness considering all the weight of antipathy being shown by our commentators

Nothing unusual there I suppose, considering the amount of notice these clots take of the electorate, once the election is over with..

Comments about it all being due to 'Labour' is a tad unbalanced when talking into account that party political differences are almost at par these days.

We no .longer have a Labour party as such, nor any other party, except the perpetual 'party' scenario as they all get to feed at the trough of public finance without returning to the public the essentials needed to give that same public a decent and fair return for their taxation.
Well, as most supporters often make the claim they gained the Assembly by a democratic vote in it's favour, which was itself based on opinion poll results showing a majority in support, how about extrapolating the number of antipathetic comments on here to show just how a new 'referendum' would show an entirely different outcome for the continuation of the mess in the Bay of Pigs? Butler must have a blindness considering all the weight of antipathy being shown by our commentators Nothing unusual there I suppose, considering the amount of notice these clots take of the electorate, once the election is over with.. Comments about it all being due to 'Labour' is a tad unbalanced when talking into account that party political differences are almost at par these days. We no .longer have a Labour party as such, nor any other party, except the perpetual 'party' scenario as they all get to feed at the trough of public finance without returning to the public the essentials needed to give that same public a decent and fair return for their taxation. varteg1

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