ARGUS COMMENT: There's an argument against every council cut - but something has to go

South Wales Argus: ARGUS COMMENT: There's an argument against every council cut - but something has to go ARGUS COMMENT: There's an argument against every council cut - but something has to go

THE consultation period for Newport council’s budget cuts may be at an end, but it is clear there are some proposed savings only just seeping into the public conciousness.

An end to spending on events like the Big Splash, the city’s food festival and the Christmas lights switch-on are just a few examples of this.

There has been much social media activity concerning these issues in recent days.

And yesterday a group of councillors suggested the council should be protecting these key events. They also suggested council proposals to fund the events via corporate sponsorship were fanciful.

While we admire the stance taken by councillors on the street scene, regeneration and safety scrutiny committee (a shorter name would surely save some ink and paper at least), the fact is there is probably a good argument to be made against every cut being made by every council in the country.

The harsh wind of economic reality is blowing through the public sector at the moment. Some things have to go.

We do not disagree that events like the food festival and the Big Splash are important to Newport. But so are libraries and care homes and almost everything else local councils do.

The role of every councillor now is to make tough decisions or come up with innovative alternatives.

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11:56am Wed 29 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

The SWA are right on this one.
The SWA are right on this one. Woodgnome
  • Score: 4

12:23pm Wed 29 Jan 14

siameselady says...

It's a shame that cuts have to be made. Maybe a reduction in the number of councillors could also be considered?
It's a shame that cuts have to be made. Maybe a reduction in the number of councillors could also be considered? siameselady
  • Score: 8

2:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Voice_of_reason_#1 says...

Funny that the shop premises in the center of town are empty and closures on the increase, but the council still insist on building a large centre for more empty holdings!! Newport City council can't keep the hospital clean but they can build un-nessecary roads and shopping centers:) baffled..?
Funny that the shop premises in the center of town are empty and closures on the increase, but the council still insist on building a large centre for more empty holdings!! Newport City council can't keep the hospital clean but they can build un-nessecary roads and shopping centers:) baffled..? Voice_of_reason_#1
  • Score: -7

2:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Stan Edwards says...

Did I miss something? They are into cuts and yet willing to risk defaulting on a £90m loan for Friar's Walk project that would fall foul of any independent assessment or appraisal !!!!!!
Completely off the wall.
Did I miss something? They are into cuts and yet willing to risk defaulting on a £90m loan for Friar's Walk project that would fall foul of any independent assessment or appraisal !!!!!! Completely off the wall. Stan Edwards
  • Score: -3

2:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Mr Bump. says...

Voice_of_reason_#1 wrote:
Funny that the shop premises in the center of town are empty and closures on the increase, but the council still insist on building a large centre for more empty holdings!! Newport City council can't keep the hospital clean but they can build un-nessecary roads and shopping centers:) baffled..?
What on earth has Newport City Council got to do with a Hospital?
[quote][p][bold]Voice_of_reason_#1[/bold] wrote: Funny that the shop premises in the center of town are empty and closures on the increase, but the council still insist on building a large centre for more empty holdings!! Newport City council can't keep the hospital clean but they can build un-nessecary roads and shopping centers:) baffled..?[/p][/quote]What on earth has Newport City Council got to do with a Hospital? Mr Bump.
  • Score: 12

6:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bobevans says...

Why not replace Council tax with a local income tax. A fairer system the low paid pay less the high paid a lot more

Council tax is quite a flat structure and takes in no account of income

In Newport it ranges from about £700 to £2500. Probably very few are in Band A or B though

With a local income tax you would pay in accordance with your income.

Below are some examples based on a 2% local income tax (assumes al income is liable to it ie ignores personal allowances)

Income £10K Council tax £950 Local Income Tax £200
Income £20K Council tax £1000 Local Income Tax £400
Income £50K Council Tax £1300 Local Income tax £1000
Income £100K Council Tax £1500 Local Income tax £2000
Income £200K Council tax £2000 Local Income Tax £4000
Income £1M Council Tax £2500 Local Income Tax £20,000
Why not replace Council tax with a local income tax. A fairer system the low paid pay less the high paid a lot more Council tax is quite a flat structure and takes in no account of income In Newport it ranges from about £700 to £2500. Probably very few are in Band A or B though With a local income tax you would pay in accordance with your income. Below are some examples based on a 2% local income tax (assumes al income is liable to it ie ignores personal allowances) Income £10K Council tax £950 Local Income Tax £200 Income £20K Council tax £1000 Local Income Tax £400 Income £50K Council Tax £1300 Local Income tax £1000 Income £100K Council Tax £1500 Local Income tax £2000 Income £200K Council tax £2000 Local Income Tax £4000 Income £1M Council Tax £2500 Local Income Tax £20,000 Bobevans
  • Score: -3

7:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

Bobevans wrote:
Why not replace Council tax with a local income tax. A fairer system the low paid pay less the high paid a lot more

Council tax is quite a flat structure and takes in no account of income

In Newport it ranges from about £700 to £2500. Probably very few are in Band A or B though

With a local income tax you would pay in accordance with your income.

Below are some examples based on a 2% local income tax (assumes al income is liable to it ie ignores personal allowances)

Income £10K Council tax £950 Local Income Tax £200
Income £20K Council tax £1000 Local Income Tax £400
Income £50K Council Tax £1300 Local Income tax £1000
Income £100K Council Tax £1500 Local Income tax £2000
Income £200K Council tax £2000 Local Income Tax £4000
Income £1M Council Tax £2500 Local Income Tax £20,000
mm but there are alot of older people with considerable wealth most inherited that live in large houses but do run of the mill jobs so would end up paying less council tax.

I favour huge cuts to the public sector having worked in it its grossly overstaffed remember council tax doubled under labour why????
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Why not replace Council tax with a local income tax. A fairer system the low paid pay less the high paid a lot more Council tax is quite a flat structure and takes in no account of income In Newport it ranges from about £700 to £2500. Probably very few are in Band A or B though With a local income tax you would pay in accordance with your income. Below are some examples based on a 2% local income tax (assumes al income is liable to it ie ignores personal allowances) Income £10K Council tax £950 Local Income Tax £200 Income £20K Council tax £1000 Local Income Tax £400 Income £50K Council Tax £1300 Local Income tax £1000 Income £100K Council Tax £1500 Local Income tax £2000 Income £200K Council tax £2000 Local Income Tax £4000 Income £1M Council Tax £2500 Local Income Tax £20,000[/p][/quote]mm but there are alot of older people with considerable wealth most inherited that live in large houses but do run of the mill jobs so would end up paying less council tax. I favour huge cuts to the public sector having worked in it its grossly overstaffed remember council tax doubled under labour why???? scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

4:42am Thu 30 Jan 14

Elliemay4 says...

Newport City Council Home Care services appears to have been cut already. When I came out of hospital in October after a 7 day stay, I contacted NCC Homecare to restart my care package and I was told that my package had been cancelled and they were not taking any more clients on. I have since heard that NCC Homecare clients have been transferred to a private Home Care agency.

I had been receiving home care for the past seven years with NCC Home Care and had built up a good relationship with my carers. To suddenly have that taken away and to have new carers coming into the home is a major upheaval for elderly and vulnerable people, many of whom do not like any change to their daily routine. I have not heard anything about this in the Argus and would welcome any comments from NCC about this 'cut' to services.
Newport City Council Home Care services appears to have been cut already. When I came out of hospital in October after a 7 day stay, I contacted NCC Homecare to restart my care package and I was told that my package had been cancelled and they were not taking any more clients on. I have since heard that NCC Homecare clients have been transferred to a private Home Care agency. I had been receiving home care for the past seven years with NCC Home Care and had built up a good relationship with my carers. To suddenly have that taken away and to have new carers coming into the home is a major upheaval for elderly and vulnerable people, many of whom do not like any change to their daily routine. I have not heard anything about this in the Argus and would welcome any comments from NCC about this 'cut' to services. Elliemay4
  • Score: 1

10:26am Fri 31 Jan 14

Severn40 says...

Given the proposals involve transferring large sections of leisure services to a trust - do we really need a separate Cabinet member? The same could be said of the cabinet member for skills - who has only made two decisions since being appointed nearly two years ago. The point here is that there is a small saving to be made in rationalising the number of councillors that have additional payments?
Given the proposals involve transferring large sections of leisure services to a trust - do we really need a separate Cabinet member? The same could be said of the cabinet member for skills - who has only made two decisions since being appointed nearly two years ago. The point here is that there is a small saving to be made in rationalising the number of councillors that have additional payments? Severn40
  • Score: 0

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