Newport Council passes 4.5 per cent rise in council tax as living wage row brews

South Wales Argus: Newport Council passes 4.5 per cent rise in council tax as living wage row brews Newport Council passes 4.5 per cent rise in council tax as living wage row brews

DESPITE opposition calls for a lower increase, council tax in Newport is to rise by 4.5 per cent from April after councillors passed the city’s budget.

The Newport council budget includes £10 million of cuts for the next year but could potentially see more than 1,000 council workers getting a pay increase as the authority moves to paying a living wage.

Cllr Bob Bright, Labour leader of Newport council, told last night's full council meeting: “Last year I said the continuing pressure on local government budgets would get worse.

“Indeed that has proved to be the case.”

He said even with the 4.5 per cent council tax increase Newport would still have the second lowest council tax rate in Wales.

Much of the debate surrounded Tory leader Matthew Evans’s proposal of an alternative budget that would have limited the tax increase to 3.5 per cent.

It would have provided funding in the base budget to store and maintain the Newport Ship, and ended Newport Matters.

“You have already admitted that people are struggling, so a one per cent reduction in council tax would give everyone across the city a welcome boost,” he told councillors.

But there was consternation from Labour members over Cllr Evans’ proposals for a delay to the implementation of the living wage.

Paul Hannon, Labour councillor for Beechwood, suggested the alternative budget was "utterly immoral", saying councillors were being asked to make poor staff suffer so the richest city residents can benefit.

Council leader Bob Bright pointed out that even Tory London mayor Boris Johnson supports the living wage, saying the council wasn’t “standing up in splendid isolation”.

But Tory councillor Martyn Kellaway suggested he found it immoral that people on the minimum wage could have to subsidise the living wage for council workers.

With Labour holding a majority over the council the alternative budget failed with the overall budget remaining intact.

Newport council currently spends around £250 million every year but, like all other Welsh authorities, Newport is facing cuts with £25 million of savings needed over the next four years.

The Welsh Government, facing UK Government cuts, is imposing a 1.2 per cent cut in its grant to the authority.

The plan to rise council tax by 4.5 per cent would put the bill for an average band D property up to £893.37 – an increase of £38 a year.

Savings for 2014/15, voted through on Tuesday night, include cutting £333,000 from the council’s IT services budget, £105,000 from the Newport Ship budget and £86,000 by closing museum and central library one day a week.

The budget includes proposals to increase wages for low paid workers to the level of the "living wage" - £7.65 an hour.

Currently the council has around 1,600 staff earning less than that. A total of £1.04 million is being put aside over the next two years to pay for it.

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9:11pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Mervyn James says...

I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.
I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK. Mervyn James
  • Score: 19

9:38pm Tue 25 Feb 14

ADM says...

I fail to see how the Council feel it is necessary to have this rise, to be spent on what will in reality be wages. I do hope that to help out the Council will look
to moving to on line versions of the Argus for Directors and move away from real plants in the Civic Centre to artificial ones. Lets see the Council do something for all of Newport not just its low paid employees.
I fail to see how the Council feel it is necessary to have this rise, to be spent on what will in reality be wages. I do hope that to help out the Council will look to moving to on line versions of the Argus for Directors and move away from real plants in the Civic Centre to artificial ones. Lets see the Council do something for all of Newport not just its low paid employees. ADM
  • Score: 12

9:49pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Mr Bump. says...

On the face of it a pay rise for the council workers may seem unfair with all the cuts to services, but we have to bear in mind that these people went four years without a pay rise. Anyway a pay rise to these people can only be good for the local economy.
On the face of it a pay rise for the council workers may seem unfair with all the cuts to services, but we have to bear in mind that these people went four years without a pay rise. Anyway a pay rise to these people can only be good for the local economy. Mr Bump.
  • Score: 13

10:40pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Mike0408 says...

Also next year it is set to rise again (about 3%). I do remember seeing in the Argus a while back that it was set rise by around 3% every year for the next 4 years, wonder if the next tax increase will be used to pay for another staff pay rise?
Also next year it is set to rise again (about 3%). I do remember seeing in the Argus a while back that it was set rise by around 3% every year for the next 4 years, wonder if the next tax increase will be used to pay for another staff pay rise? Mike0408
  • Score: 8

11:05pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

A rise was probably inevitable - but hypocrisy is the issue when Labour vehemently opposed any tax rise at all when in opposition. I just wish local politicians would ditch the whip and represent the people who elect them instead of their little inward looking political "club".
A rise was probably inevitable - but hypocrisy is the issue when Labour vehemently opposed any tax rise at all when in opposition. I just wish local politicians would ditch the whip and represent the people who elect them instead of their little inward looking political "club". Woodgnome
  • Score: 18

7:09am Wed 26 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Labour's usual attitude to taxation. Brown created or increased over 100 taxes when in power and still couldn't make ends meet.
Labour's usual attitude to taxation. Brown created or increased over 100 taxes when in power and still couldn't make ends meet. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 13

8:05am Wed 26 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

it is unbelievable i ALWAYS wanted to know why under labour council taxes doubled but services never increased so where oh where did all this money go - im betting on a load of stupid made up job - welsh language commissioner etc etc

The old WAG must be draining the welsh economy of millions per day
it is unbelievable i ALWAYS wanted to know why under labour council taxes doubled but services never increased so where oh where did all this money go - im betting on a load of stupid made up job - welsh language commissioner etc etc The old WAG must be draining the welsh economy of millions per day scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

8:07am Wed 26 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
On the face of it a pay rise for the council workers may seem unfair with all the cuts to services, but we have to bear in mind that these people went four years without a pay rise. Anyway a pay rise to these people can only be good for the local economy.
How ? The Council tax payers who will far outweigh the number of low paid council workers will have 4.5% less to spend
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: On the face of it a pay rise for the council workers may seem unfair with all the cuts to services, but we have to bear in mind that these people went four years without a pay rise. Anyway a pay rise to these people can only be good for the local economy.[/p][/quote]How ? The Council tax payers who will far outweigh the number of low paid council workers will have 4.5% less to spend Bobevans
  • Score: -6

8:32am Wed 26 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Mervyn James wrote:
I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.
Oh, it's worse than that.

Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, it's worse than that. Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 10

9:13am Wed 26 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Kind of makes you proud to be British doesn't it? That we continually give control of our lives and our country to all the people who make this possible.
Kind of makes you proud to be British doesn't it? That we continually give control of our lives and our country to all the people who make this possible. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 0

9:16am Wed 26 Feb 14

Severn40 says...

At the end of the day, it is a political choice. I am concerned about the cutbacks to general maintenance across the city - a false economy if ever and will eventually cost more in the longer run.
At the end of the day, it is a political choice. I am concerned about the cutbacks to general maintenance across the city - a false economy if ever and will eventually cost more in the longer run. Severn40
  • Score: 6

9:17am Wed 26 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Sorry. What was I thinking? Obviously it's immigrants and benefit claimants to blame for all of these woes.
Sorry. What was I thinking? Obviously it's immigrants and benefit claimants to blame for all of these woes. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: -1

9:21am Wed 26 Feb 14

blackandamber says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.
Oh, it's worse than that.

Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.
Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, it's worse than that. Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.[/p][/quote]Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here. blackandamber
  • Score: -3

9:22am Wed 26 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Sorry. What was I thinking? Obviously it's immigrants and benefit claimants to blame for all of these woes.
Haven't you ever wondered then why so many people are crawling on their hands and knees and across other countries, which are apparently nirvana by comparison, to hang around at French ports trying to get in?
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Sorry. What was I thinking? Obviously it's immigrants and benefit claimants to blame for all of these woes.[/p][/quote]Haven't you ever wondered then why so many people are crawling on their hands and knees and across other countries, which are apparently nirvana by comparison, to hang around at French ports trying to get in? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 4

9:38am Wed 26 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

blackandamber wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo

m
wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.
Oh, it's worse than that.

Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.
Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here.
Well, it is that bad. And why should I leave? Like it or not, this is my home. I was born in the UK and lived here pretty much my whole life. What is running away gong to solve exactly?

As for people coming here - well I read a lot of books about conditions in other countries, and as bad as we have it here, some of those poor sods have it much much worse. You really can't imagine. Though I suspect that if things in this country continue the way they're going, an imagination won't be necessary.
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, it's worse than that. Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.[/p][/quote]Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here.[/p][/quote]Well, it is that bad. And why should I leave? Like it or not, this is my home. I was born in the UK and lived here pretty much my whole life. What is running away gong to solve exactly? As for people coming here - well I read a lot of books about conditions in other countries, and as bad as we have it here, some of those poor sods have it much much worse. You really can't imagine. Though I suspect that if things in this country continue the way they're going, an imagination won't be necessary. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 10

12:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

broadjustice says...

Have you seen Bob Brightsparks new American motorhome? He can buy a brand new one with this council tax hike! I wonder what bonus paid for that? That brings the total to 5 cars, I bet all are somehow doctored so that we are paying for them.
Have you seen Bob Brightsparks new American motorhome? He can buy a brand new one with this council tax hike! I wonder what bonus paid for that? That brings the total to 5 cars, I bet all are somehow doctored so that we are paying for them. broadjustice
  • Score: 6

12:19pm Wed 26 Feb 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Great news that Living Wage is being brought in, let's hope other employers do the same - good for workers and good for the local economy. Well done to the Labour councillors who passed this through, shame to see the small band of tory councillors trying to play politics over something that will benefit over 1,000 Council workers
Great news that Living Wage is being brought in, let's hope other employers do the same - good for workers and good for the local economy. Well done to the Labour councillors who passed this through, shame to see the small band of tory councillors trying to play politics over something that will benefit over 1,000 Council workers BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -4

12:49pm Wed 26 Feb 14

whatintheworld says...

it's really encouraging to read comments supporting the living wage.

we should be asking why private companies havent introduced it, not whether the public sector should.
it's really encouraging to read comments supporting the living wage. we should be asking why private companies havent introduced it, not whether the public sector should. whatintheworld
  • Score: 1

1:16pm Wed 26 Feb 14

thomas35 says...

Perhaps a little business sense could be used by the city leaders and use what assets we have ... Why not put a charge £2 ? for entry to museums ..etc.. Look at The Roman Museum and Baths at Caerleon which could be a cash cow for Newport, where hundreds of coaches from all over the country visit, many from over the bridge.What is lacking at this venue is good cafe / restaurant which would bring in an excellent return if run correctly . There is nowhere nearby at present where groups of children could be accomodated and get refreshments and also be in a safe place without having to wander around narrow streets (note National Museum of Wales facilities)and believe me the coach companies bringing these visitors are doing very well out of it. I,sure that othe enterprises could be opened up around the city using exiisting resourses ...particularly if the staff are only getting the living wage .
Perhaps a little business sense could be used by the city leaders and use what assets we have ... Why not put a charge £2 ? for entry to museums ..etc.. Look at The Roman Museum and Baths at Caerleon which could be a cash cow for Newport, where hundreds of coaches from all over the country visit, many from over the bridge.What is lacking at this venue is good cafe / restaurant which would bring in an excellent return if run correctly . There is nowhere nearby at present where groups of children could be accomodated and get refreshments and also be in a safe place without having to wander around narrow streets (note National Museum of Wales facilities)and believe me the coach companies bringing these visitors are doing very well out of it. I,sure that othe enterprises could be opened up around the city using exiisting resourses ...particularly if the staff are only getting the living wage . thomas35
  • Score: 3

3:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

I've no objection to the living wage across the board, I really haven't but provided it's paid for out of the economy 'as is' and not stuffed onto the ever diminishing band of taxpayers who keep getting asked for more.
I've no objection to the living wage across the board, I really haven't but provided it's paid for out of the economy 'as is' and not stuffed onto the ever diminishing band of taxpayers who keep getting asked for more. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 3

5:36pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Mervyn James says...

blackandamber wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo

m
wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.
Oh, it's worse than that.

Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.
Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here.
I wasn't moaning about paying people a living wage, every employer should be doing that, the minimum is not a 'living' wage it needs £2 extra an hour to be practical. It maybe naive to expect Gwent employers will follow suit but the wages must rise, even with an extra £2 we are still £14 a week worse off. But for cheap migrant labour we would all be having a proper wage. NO wonder Cameron and Co bleat racist when we raise that issue. They deprived our youth of work experience, reneged on giving our children a viable education, then demonized everyone else for that, while their banker friends award themselves 140% pay rises, and burn £10 notes for a laugh. The only time they show any interest is if the London bubble shows signs of bursting.
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe people are moaning because they want to pay people a living wage,welcome to Newport !!! The real issue is why we aren't creating hell because other employers won't. Employers bosses got 140% rises for themselves justified via "We have to pay to keep the best..." which suggests the workforce that earns them these inflated wages are worth nothing. British workers already work longer hours for nothing than most countries in Europe. Slavery has returned to the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, it's worse than that. Britain is the country with the second lowest pay amongst advanced economies. Since 2010 British wages have fallen faster than all but three other EU countries - even though we work the third longest hours. Britain has the third highest housing costs in Europe, the highest rail prices in Europe and is second worst for fuel poverty. We have the least happy children in the developed world, the worst infant mortality rates in Europe and some of the worst child poverty in the industrialised world. Britain's elderly are the fourth poorest in the EU. We have the eighth biggest gap between men and women's pay in Europe with childcare costs much higher than most European countries. Britain is the fourth most unequal developed society with a wealth gap twice as wide as any other EU country. Britain has the greatest regional inequality in Europe. Britain has the lowest level of trust in its politicians in Europe. Britain's productivity is 16% behind the average of advanced economies and has the worst record on industrial production.[/p][/quote]Well why if it's that bad, don't you moaners emigrate. Why if it's that bad are people from all over the world trying to get into this country legally or otherwise to live here.[/p][/quote]I wasn't moaning about paying people a living wage, every employer should be doing that, the minimum is not a 'living' wage it needs £2 extra an hour to be practical. It maybe naive to expect Gwent employers will follow suit but the wages must rise, even with an extra £2 we are still £14 a week worse off. But for cheap migrant labour we would all be having a proper wage. NO wonder Cameron and Co bleat racist when we raise that issue. They deprived our youth of work experience, reneged on giving our children a viable education, then demonized everyone else for that, while their banker friends award themselves 140% pay rises, and burn £10 notes for a laugh. The only time they show any interest is if the London bubble shows signs of bursting. Mervyn James
  • Score: -3

6:08pm Wed 26 Feb 14

VoiceOfDaPort says...

So a 4.5% increase in council tax and now just had a letter from Newport City Homes to say they are putting my rent up 6.26%
So a 4.5% increase in council tax and now just had a letter from Newport City Homes to say they are putting my rent up 6.26% VoiceOfDaPort
  • Score: 1

7:45pm Wed 26 Feb 14

pentoldie says...

This is the same administration that is outsourcing the Property Department and jobs to a private company with all its attendent costs with Local Government reorganisation now around the corner, who is wasting money?
This is the same administration that is outsourcing the Property Department and jobs to a private company with all its attendent costs with Local Government reorganisation now around the corner, who is wasting money? pentoldie
  • Score: 1

8:20pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Dafydd y Garreg Wen says...

How many council tax payers will have had a 4.5% pay rise in the last twelve months? I suspect not many, apart from possibly now council workers, so all this will do is reduce family budgets even further and along with it their spending power. Truly, Newport Council have rediscovered the economics of the madhouse.
How many council tax payers will have had a 4.5% pay rise in the last twelve months? I suspect not many, apart from possibly now council workers, so all this will do is reduce family budgets even further and along with it their spending power. Truly, Newport Council have rediscovered the economics of the madhouse. Dafydd y Garreg Wen
  • Score: 9

10:29pm Wed 26 Feb 14

bugsy93 says...

The Executives and Councillors pay rises has got to be funded somehow.
The Executives and Councillors pay rises has got to be funded somehow. bugsy93
  • Score: 2

10:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

iron500 says...

It is well known and documented that Public sector employees UK wide are already paid more than workers in the private sector doing similar work, they get more holidays, plus special pensions, and much lower levels of productivity, and still Labour controlled councils feel that they must give staff an increase to the Living wage weather it can be afforded or not, after all they have the legal right to waste as much money as they want , and then dip into the council tax payers pocket to pay for it.
It is well known and documented that Public sector employees UK wide are already paid more than workers in the private sector doing similar work, they get more holidays, plus special pensions, and much lower levels of productivity, and still Labour controlled councils feel that they must give staff an increase to the Living wage weather it can be afforded or not, after all they have the legal right to waste as much money as they want , and then dip into the council tax payers pocket to pay for it. iron500
  • Score: 6

7:55am Thu 27 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

iron500 wrote:
It is well known and documented that Public sector employees UK wide are already paid more than workers in the private sector doing similar work, they get more holidays, plus special pensions, and much lower levels of productivity, and still Labour controlled councils feel that they must give staff an increase to the Living wage weather it can be afforded or not, after all they have the legal right to waste as much money as they want , and then dip into the council tax payers pocket to pay for it.
The electorate of Newport elected a high majority Labour Council so they knew what they were getting. The interesting question is why?
[quote][p][bold]iron500[/bold] wrote: It is well known and documented that Public sector employees UK wide are already paid more than workers in the private sector doing similar work, they get more holidays, plus special pensions, and much lower levels of productivity, and still Labour controlled councils feel that they must give staff an increase to the Living wage weather it can be afforded or not, after all they have the legal right to waste as much money as they want , and then dip into the council tax payers pocket to pay for it.[/p][/quote]The electorate of Newport elected a high majority Labour Council so they knew what they were getting. The interesting question is why? Woodgnome
  • Score: -1

10:49am Thu 27 Feb 14

Crazydad says...

This is typical of short sighted politics where the ruling party only care about what happens when they are in power. Prior to the austerity measures and the financial crash that effected almost everyone, the ruling parties could have increased council tax by half a per cent per year in the preceding years and no one would have really noticed and the council could have banked this money (but they would have spent on something equally wasteful) and then during these difficult times for its residents, the council would not have to raise council tax or would have to raise it only slightly. This would have put Newport apart from all the other authorities in Wales and would have been good PR for Newport council (but I forgot they don't like good PR or anything demonstrating that they might have thought things thoroughly).
This is typical of short sighted politics where the ruling party only care about what happens when they are in power. Prior to the austerity measures and the financial crash that effected almost everyone, the ruling parties could have increased council tax by half a per cent per year in the preceding years and no one would have really noticed and the council could have banked this money (but they would have spent on something equally wasteful) and then during these difficult times for its residents, the council would not have to raise council tax or would have to raise it only slightly. This would have put Newport apart from all the other authorities in Wales and would have been good PR for Newport council (but I forgot they don't like good PR or anything demonstrating that they might have thought things thoroughly). Crazydad
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Newport Council has to change. At the moment it refuses point blank to change. No real efficiency improvements and an outright refusal to engage in joint working and shared services with other councils. It cannot continue like this for much longer. Newport will face council tax rises at least 3 times the rate of inflation for the next 3 years at least
Newport Council has to change. At the moment it refuses point blank to change. No real efficiency improvements and an outright refusal to engage in joint working and shared services with other councils. It cannot continue like this for much longer. Newport will face council tax rises at least 3 times the rate of inflation for the next 3 years at least Bobevans
  • Score: 2

2:19pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Newportg says...

Bobevans wrote:
Newport Council has to change. At the moment it refuses point blank to change. No real efficiency improvements and an outright refusal to engage in joint working and shared services with other councils. It cannot continue like this for much longer. Newport will face council tax rises at least 3 times the rate of inflation for the next 3 years at least
And yet it still delivers the 2nd lowest council tax in Wales!
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Newport Council has to change. At the moment it refuses point blank to change. No real efficiency improvements and an outright refusal to engage in joint working and shared services with other councils. It cannot continue like this for much longer. Newport will face council tax rises at least 3 times the rate of inflation for the next 3 years at least[/p][/quote]And yet it still delivers the 2nd lowest council tax in Wales! Newportg
  • Score: -4

3:17pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Mervyn James says...

He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...
He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol... Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

7:57pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Woodgnome says...

broadjustice wrote:
Have you seen Bob Brightsparks new American motorhome? He can buy a brand new one with this council tax hike! I wonder what bonus paid for that? That brings the total to 5 cars, I bet all are somehow doctored so that we are paying for them.
How many Cabinet posts were cut to help make savings? Not a single snout was cut off. No doubt they will tell us they need a living wage too - but to do what exactly?
[quote][p][bold]broadjustice[/bold] wrote: Have you seen Bob Brightsparks new American motorhome? He can buy a brand new one with this council tax hike! I wonder what bonus paid for that? That brings the total to 5 cars, I bet all are somehow doctored so that we are paying for them.[/p][/quote]How many Cabinet posts were cut to help make savings? Not a single snout was cut off. No doubt they will tell us they need a living wage too - but to do what exactly? Woodgnome
  • Score: 4

8:28pm Thu 27 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

NEwport flipin ship why are we paying for that crap there must be a lottery fund or something get rid of this piece of junk
NEwport flipin ship why are we paying for that crap there must be a lottery fund or something get rid of this piece of junk scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

8:52am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Mervyn James wrote:
He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...
Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK

It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding

There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on

http://www.walesonli
ne.co.uk/news/wales-
news/council-tax-hig
her-wales-rich-67556
49

From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...[/p][/quote]Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on http://www.walesonli ne.co.uk/news/wales- news/council-tax-hig her-wales-rich-67556 49 From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071 Bobevans
  • Score: 1

8:52am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Mervyn James wrote:
He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...
Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK

It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding

There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on

http://www.walesonli
ne.co.uk/news/wales-
news/council-tax-hig
her-wales-rich-67556
49

From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...[/p][/quote]Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on http://www.walesonli ne.co.uk/news/wales- news/council-tax-hig her-wales-rich-67556 49 From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071 Bobevans
  • Score: 0

8:54am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

If Newport Council want to pay the living wage it must be cost neutral ie they have to make the extra amounts in efficiency savings
If Newport Council want to pay the living wage it must be cost neutral ie they have to make the extra amounts in efficiency savings Bobevans
  • Score: 1

4:11pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Newportg says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...
Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK

It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding

There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on

http://www.walesonli

ne.co.uk/news/wales-

news/council-tax-hig

her-wales-rich-67556

49

From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071
It's the 2nd lowest rate in Wales.

Read the article!
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good gripe lol...[/p][/quote]Ah Mervyn ranting again. No doubt you do not pay council tax Newport Councils tax has been increasing at pretty much the fastest of any council in the UK It may also interest you to know that council tax in Wales is now higher than in many parts of England and that's in spite of it being given more funding There was no need to increase it at all as Westminster provided funding for it to be frozen but the WAG decided to pocket that funding rather than pass it on http://www.walesonli ne.co.uk/news/wales- news/council-tax-hig her-wales-rich-67556 49 From April, council tax on a Band D property in Cardiff will go up to £1,164. In Kensington and Chelsea, they will be paying £1,071[/p][/quote]It's the 2nd lowest rate in Wales. Read the article! Newportg
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Fri 28 Feb 14

I work 4 you says...

Severn40 wrote:
At the end of the day, it is a political choice. I am concerned about the cutbacks to general maintenance across the city - a false economy if ever and will eventually cost more in the longer run.
Hi All

A Newbie here. I have no political axe to grind and have worked for NCC for many years. If I have a concern about public services I raise it professionally with my managers. So.......... I have not arrived here to slate my colleagues or the council tax payers of the City. I suppose I could be disciplined if what I write is not what I should, but I am concerned to see that public services survive so that my children and grandchildren, all citizens of this city, get what they need and are entitled to.

What I want to say is that I work with so many colleagues who are committed to what they are doing. In times when income from central Govt is reducing we have all had to take on extra work whilst the demand for our services continues to grow. I work in a sector where demand for services has increased by some 20% across Wales in the last 5 years. At the same time our income from elsewhere is reducing. How does this impact on us ?? We work harder and longer hours. Many of my colleagues have to take work home at evenings and weekends in order that local people get the service they must have.

If there is no money in the pot how can you, as citizens of Newport, expect to have the services you want? I know we can all debate how much is spent on this and that but some of you are airing views here that appear to be more informed by personal issues you have against public services or our political masters/mistresses rather than the facts, which are that most of the people I work with genuinely want to make a difference for the people who live in Newport.

I may or may not continue in this forum but I did want to make a case for a group of people that some of you seem to think as freeloaders or scivers when what I see in work every day is people doing their most to make things better for us all here in Newport. If everything was so open, honest and transparent in the private sector maybe that would go against my views, but is it ??

Have a good weekend.
[quote][p][bold]Severn40[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day, it is a political choice. I am concerned about the cutbacks to general maintenance across the city - a false economy if ever and will eventually cost more in the longer run.[/p][/quote]Hi All A Newbie here. I have no political axe to grind and have worked for NCC for many years. If I have a concern about public services I raise it professionally with my managers. So.......... I have not arrived here to slate my colleagues or the council tax payers of the City. I suppose I could be disciplined if what I write is not what I should, but I am concerned to see that public services survive so that my children and grandchildren, all citizens of this city, get what they need and are entitled to. What I want to say is that I work with so many colleagues who are committed to what they are doing. In times when income from central Govt is reducing we have all had to take on extra work whilst the demand for our services continues to grow. I work in a sector where demand for services has increased by some 20% across Wales in the last 5 years. At the same time our income from elsewhere is reducing. How does this impact on us ?? We work harder and longer hours. Many of my colleagues have to take work home at evenings and weekends in order that local people get the service they must have. If there is no money in the pot how can you, as citizens of Newport, expect to have the services you want? I know we can all debate how much is spent on this and that but some of you are airing views here that appear to be more informed by personal issues you have against public services or our political masters/mistresses rather than the facts, which are that most of the people I work with genuinely want to make a difference for the people who live in Newport. I may or may not continue in this forum but I did want to make a case for a group of people that some of you seem to think as freeloaders or scivers when what I see in work every day is people doing their most to make things better for us all here in Newport. If everything was so open, honest and transparent in the private sector maybe that would go against my views, but is it ?? Have a good weekend. I work 4 you
  • Score: 2

11:49am Sat 1 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

Economics takes second place to gripes here. Councils don't have the money from central government to pay for services 26% of welsh people have some form of illness or disability,and like everywhere else an increasing older population who require more services. We will be down to education/health/sup
port everything else will have to go. The problem is, even those vital areas are cut to the bone too, if you have 50p to purchase a commodity costing £1.70p then logic suggests you aren't going to be able to buy it.

Maybe the populace should look to the huge amounts they spend on junk food, booze, and unecessaries and make priorities that count. This is what the councils have to do, they cannot affect those things, so, the libraries, the meals on wheels, the leisure centres, community care options, etc are getting the axe instead. The only way to keep services is to get the money from US to keep it going. Where else ?
Economics takes second place to gripes here. Councils don't have the money from central government to pay for services 26% of welsh people have some form of illness or disability,and like everywhere else an increasing older population who require more services. We will be down to education/health/sup port everything else will have to go. The problem is, even those vital areas are cut to the bone too, if you have 50p to purchase a commodity costing £1.70p then logic suggests you aren't going to be able to buy it. Maybe the populace should look to the huge amounts they spend on junk food, booze, and unecessaries and make priorities that count. This is what the councils have to do, they cannot affect those things, so, the libraries, the meals on wheels, the leisure centres, community care options, etc are getting the axe instead. The only way to keep services is to get the money from US to keep it going. Where else ? Mervyn James
  • Score: -1

4:59pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

UKIP will
•Ensure low earners don’t have to pay tax by raising the personal allowance. If you’re on the minimum wage, under UKIP you won’t pay tax!
•Bring local rates down to encourage businesses to expand and employ more local people.
•Build more trade deals across the world to further British industry and opportunity.
•Get fracking to bring down energy bills and to encourage further foreign direct investment into Britain. We need wealth creation.




yi-half-policy-educa
tion

For a Britain that creates the best.


UKIP will
•Abolish the 50% target of all young Britons going to university. We need young adults that aren’t just academic, we need builders, carpenters, people who don’t need to go to university, people who can get stuck in and aspire to be better from the start.
•End student tuition fees.
•Bring back grammar schools to give children in poorer areas a better chance at aspiring to be better.



http://www.younginde
pendence.org.uk/poli
cy/
UKIP will •Ensure low earners don’t have to pay tax by raising the personal allowance. If you’re on the minimum wage, under UKIP you won’t pay tax! •Bring local rates down to encourage businesses to expand and employ more local people. •Build more trade deals across the world to further British industry and opportunity. •Get fracking to bring down energy bills and to encourage further foreign direct investment into Britain. We need wealth creation. yi-half-policy-educa tion For a Britain that creates the best. UKIP will •Abolish the 50% target of all young Britons going to university. We need young adults that aren’t just academic, we need builders, carpenters, people who don’t need to go to university, people who can get stuck in and aspire to be better from the start. •End student tuition fees. •Bring back grammar schools to give children in poorer areas a better chance at aspiring to be better. http://www.younginde pendence.org.uk/poli cy/ Bobevans
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Mon 3 Mar 14

welshmen says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Kind of makes you proud to be British doesn't it? That we continually give control of our lives and our country to all the people who make this possible.
HaHaHa, what are you on about, "WE" there's no WE in your party YOU don't VOTE remember, it's stupid as you keep saying...Anarchist..
..
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Kind of makes you proud to be British doesn't it? That we continually give control of our lives and our country to all the people who make this possible.[/p][/quote]HaHaHa, what are you on about, "WE" there's no WE in your party YOU don't VOTE remember, it's stupid as you keep saying...Anarchist.. .. welshmen
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

welshmen says...

Bobevans wrote:
UKIP will
•Ensure low earners don’t have to pay tax by raising the personal allowance. If you’re on the minimum wage, under UKIP you won’t pay tax!
•Bring local rates down to encourage businesses to expand and employ more local people.
•Build more trade deals across the world to further British industry and opportunity.
•Get fracking to bring down energy bills and to encourage further foreign direct investment into Britain. We need wealth creation.




yi-half-policy-educa

tion

For a Britain that creates the best.


UKIP will
•Abolish the 50% target of all young Britons going to university. We need young adults that aren’t just academic, we need builders, carpenters, people who don’t need to go to university, people who can get stuck in and aspire to be better from the start.
•End student tuition fees.
•Bring back grammar schools to give children in poorer areas a better chance at aspiring to be better.



http://www.younginde

pendence.org.uk/poli

cy/
You been on the BNP web site again, or is it hophead using the BNP policies and slogans again....They'll be saying British Job's for British workers next....
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: UKIP will •Ensure low earners don’t have to pay tax by raising the personal allowance. If you’re on the minimum wage, under UKIP you won’t pay tax! •Bring local rates down to encourage businesses to expand and employ more local people. •Build more trade deals across the world to further British industry and opportunity. •Get fracking to bring down energy bills and to encourage further foreign direct investment into Britain. We need wealth creation. yi-half-policy-educa tion For a Britain that creates the best. UKIP will •Abolish the 50% target of all young Britons going to university. We need young adults that aren’t just academic, we need builders, carpenters, people who don’t need to go to university, people who can get stuck in and aspire to be better from the start. •End student tuition fees. •Bring back grammar schools to give children in poorer areas a better chance at aspiring to be better. http://www.younginde pendence.org.uk/poli cy/[/p][/quote]You been on the BNP web site again, or is it hophead using the BNP policies and slogans again....They'll be saying British Job's for British workers next.... welshmen
  • Score: 0

5:06pm Tue 4 Mar 14

El Chapo says...

Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is. They have decent pensions and work Mon-Fri and 8-4. The whole system is a joke and has been forever, increasing wages is unnecessary and an insult to the hard working private sector workers. No pay rise for 4 years, they should be happy that a pressure free job has been created for them.

Newport's public sector should be overhauled with a private sector task force at the helm to improve efficiency and remove the dead wood. Then they should issue a full report for the public to see what on earth these people were doing for all these years and will be doing in the future

The public sector in Newport is currently for life's plodders and under achievers, please stop asking for my charity.
Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is. They have decent pensions and work Mon-Fri and 8-4. The whole system is a joke and has been forever, increasing wages is unnecessary and an insult to the hard working private sector workers. No pay rise for 4 years, they should be happy that a pressure free job has been created for them. Newport's public sector should be overhauled with a private sector task force at the helm to improve efficiency and remove the dead wood. Then they should issue a full report for the public to see what on earth these people were doing for all these years and will be doing in the future The public sector in Newport is currently for life's plodders and under achievers, please stop asking for my charity. El Chapo
  • Score: 0

10:35pm Tue 11 Mar 14

ACouncilWorker says...

El Chapo wrote:
Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is. They have decent pensions and work Mon-Fri and 8-4. The whole system is a joke and has been forever, increasing wages is unnecessary and an insult to the hard working private sector workers. No pay rise for 4 years, they should be happy that a pressure free job has been created for them.

Newport's public sector should be overhauled with a private sector task force at the helm to improve efficiency and remove the dead wood. Then they should issue a full report for the public to see what on earth these people were doing for all these years and will be doing in the future

The public sector in Newport is currently for life's plodders and under achievers, please stop asking for my charity.
Firstly I'll say... Pay rise or not. I live in Newport and I'll still have to pay the extra council tax too.
I'm not defending the rise. But the whole tax hike isn't going on the extra pay. It's also goes towards paying for everything else that's not been cut.

I want to see Newport doing well. I want to see peoples pride restored. I want to see the town full of shoppers.
I'd give up my own pay rise if I thought it would make a difference.. maybe the council could buy an extra pack of pencils each month with it? (you wouldn't get much else with it)

Below, I'm talking about the department and van I work on (litter picking) not other council departments or vans within my department.. And theses are my personal views and not the councils.

"Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is."

Everyday myself and the others on my department are out working hard to keep the streets tidy.
With budget cuts and less workers, Our work is getting more and more difficult, and there's a lot of pressure on us from our managers and the general public (even more so with the tax hike)

Each van covers a very large area and we're only allowed 1 day per area in a 2 week period. In that day, we have to pick up the litter, empty street bins, dig out weeds, pick up leaves and so on.
Most days it'll be so bad that all we do is litter pick all day. Other days there's less rubbish and we can spend more time digging out weeds and do our other jobs.
If we don't carry out our jobs in the area. We get the mangers on our backs.

With the GPS trackers and being followed around most days. Gone are the days of council workers sitting in a cafe all day drinking tea.

I've had a lot of jobs over the years and I can honestly say that this is the most stressful job I've had (I've only been there a year). To the point that I'm looking for other work, so I can have an easy job that I enjoy.
I'd love the have the job that people make out we have!

"They have decent pensions"
Our pension isn't that great and the amount we have to pay in, is about to go up.
By the time I retire. It won't be worth the paper it's printed on... That's if I live long enough to retire, with the way things are going.

"and work Mon-Fri and 8-4"
So no different from just about every other worker in the UK? (and it's 7:30-3:30)
There are departments that work in to the night, on the weekends and during the holidays.

I also worked longer hours during the flooding to help keep peoples homes safe from water. Filling and delivering sandbags.
I did this because I wanted to help the residents and I'll always be the first in line to help when I can.


To be honest.. The more I read peoples opinions about council workers or listen to passing comments we occasionally get in the street. It just makes me want to leave quicker and I start to feel ashamed to be from Newport.

Thankfully there are people who appreciate what we do.
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is. They have decent pensions and work Mon-Fri and 8-4. The whole system is a joke and has been forever, increasing wages is unnecessary and an insult to the hard working private sector workers. No pay rise for 4 years, they should be happy that a pressure free job has been created for them. Newport's public sector should be overhauled with a private sector task force at the helm to improve efficiency and remove the dead wood. Then they should issue a full report for the public to see what on earth these people were doing for all these years and will be doing in the future The public sector in Newport is currently for life's plodders and under achievers, please stop asking for my charity.[/p][/quote]Firstly I'll say... Pay rise or not. I live in Newport and I'll still have to pay the extra council tax too. I'm not defending the rise. But the whole tax hike isn't going on the extra pay. It's also goes towards paying for everything else that's not been cut. I want to see Newport doing well. I want to see peoples pride restored. I want to see the town full of shoppers. I'd give up my own pay rise if I thought it would make a difference.. maybe the council could buy an extra pack of pencils each month with it? (you wouldn't get much else with it) Below, I'm talking about the department and van I work on (litter picking) not other council departments or vans within my department.. And theses are my personal views and not the councils. "Let's be honest, public sector workers do not know what real work is or what pressure is." Everyday myself and the others on my department are out working hard to keep the streets tidy. With budget cuts and less workers, Our work is getting more and more difficult, and there's a lot of pressure on us from our managers and the general public (even more so with the tax hike) Each van covers a very large area and we're only allowed 1 day per area in a 2 week period. In that day, we have to pick up the litter, empty street bins, dig out weeds, pick up leaves and so on. Most days it'll be so bad that all we do is litter pick all day. Other days there's less rubbish and we can spend more time digging out weeds and do our other jobs. If we don't carry out our jobs in the area. We get the mangers on our backs. With the GPS trackers and being followed around most days. Gone are the days of council workers sitting in a cafe all day drinking tea. I've had a lot of jobs over the years and I can honestly say that this is the most stressful job I've had (I've only been there a year). To the point that I'm looking for other work, so I can have an easy job that I enjoy. I'd love the have the job that people make out we have! "They have decent pensions" Our pension isn't that great and the amount we have to pay in, is about to go up. By the time I retire. It won't be worth the paper it's printed on... That's if I live long enough to retire, with the way things are going. "and work Mon-Fri and 8-4" So no different from just about every other worker in the UK? (and it's 7:30-3:30) There are departments that work in to the night, on the weekends and during the holidays. I also worked longer hours during the flooding to help keep peoples homes safe from water. Filling and delivering sandbags. I did this because I wanted to help the residents and I'll always be the first in line to help when I can. To be honest.. The more I read peoples opinions about council workers or listen to passing comments we occasionally get in the street. It just makes me want to leave quicker and I start to feel ashamed to be from Newport. Thankfully there are people who appreciate what we do. ACouncilWorker
  • Score: 1

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