Newport councillor died after 15 months on heart operation waiting list

Ron Jones

Ron Jones

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A COUNCILLOR who died after spending 15 months waiting for a heart operation was let down by the NHS he loved, his grieving partner said.

Newport councillor Ron Jones was suffering from severe heart disease and was waiting for surgery after doctors told him he needed a triple by-pass and a new valve.

But he died of heart failure last August, aged 78.

His partner of 30 years Pam Allen has complained to the two health boards involved, hoping no-one else will have to go through the same ordeal.

“He was let down by the NHS he loved,” she said.

Speaking to the Argus for the first time since Cllr Jones’ death, she said: “He was just let down. Why did he wait so long when they knew what was wrong with him?

“Why was he waiting 15 months from the point he was diagnosed? To me, heart surgery is an emergency.”

The Labour councillor, who represented Pill for decades, is thought to be one of the 99 patients in Wales who have died on the heart surgery waiting list within the last five years.

A consultant at the Royal Gwent Hospital told him in May 2012 he would need a double heart bypass and a new valve.

In autumn 2012, Cllr Jones was given an angiogram at the hospital, but his GP was furious when she discovered that he did not have any stents put in.

“The doctor said that would have given him quality of life until he had the operation,” said Ms Allen.

Cllr Jones had a further appointment at the University of Wales Hospital Cardiff, which provides heart surgery for South-East Wales, on October 19, 2012.

A doctor then told him he would need a triple bypass.

Ms Allen, 68, of Pill, said: “He said: ‘Do you have any questions?’ We said: ‘When do we come in? Tomorrow?’

“He said: ‘No, three to six months’.”

When Cllr Jones was told in April that the operation wouldn’t be for the foreseeable future, Ms Allen got Newport West AM Rosemary Butler involved.

They then received a letter saying Cllr Jones had been put on a 36-week waiting list – but that he had gone on the waiting list on December 17.

Cllr Jones was finally given an appointment for a pre-assessment clinic on June 5, 2013, and was told his operation would take place within six weeks. But the operation didn’t take place.

Ms Allen said on August 27, 2013, Cllr Jones woke up and went to the toilet: “He came back and said I’m dying, I need an ambulance.”

The ambulance crew arrived quickly, but Cllr Jones died before they could get him to hospital.

Ms Allen now has two complaints outstanding, against both the Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and the Aneurin Bevan Health Board.

She said: “If something can be done, it can save other people.”

Cllr Jones’ partner said she couldn’t bring herself to make the complaints until January.

“I see him in this house every day, it still upsets me,” she said. “I thought: right, something has got to be done. I have got to make a stand now.”

- Cardiff and Vale University Health Board offered its sincerest condolences to Cllr Jones family for their loss.

A spokeswoman said the board is arranging a meeting between Cllr Jones’ relatives and the clinical team.

She said: “We would like to reassure the family that steps are being taken by health boards and the Welsh Health Specialist Services Committee to increase cardiac capacity.

“This has included further investment in the service, providing surgery at weekends and commissioning services from other providers.

“We would also like to reassure patients and their families waiting for treatment that arrangements are in place to regularly review and monitor patients on the waiting list.

“However if anyone has any concerns they should see their GP. We would also add that outcomes after cardiac surgery at Cardiff and Vale University Health Board are excellent, some of the best in the UK, and that clinical teams are constantly working to improve patient care and timely access to services.”

A spokeswoman for the Aneurin Bevan University Health Board also offered the organisation’s sincerest condolences to Cllr Jones’ family.

However she said the board does not comment publicly on the detail of individual patients to ensure it maintains confidentiality.

“We can confirm that a complaint has been received and is being fully investigated,” she added.

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8:01am Fri 28 Feb 14

sooty001 says...

Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well
Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well sooty001
  • Score: 29

8:04am Fri 28 Feb 14

Mr Holder says...

Tragic, if somewhat ironic.
Tragic, if somewhat ironic. Mr Holder
  • Score: 1

8:11am Fri 28 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

it was on about the failing health service under labour on last nights question time one lady with glasses did mention the huge cost of running the assembly would be better spent on front line services in wales oh so true
it was on about the failing health service under labour on last nights question time one lady with glasses did mention the huge cost of running the assembly would be better spent on front line services in wales oh so true scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

8:17am Fri 28 Feb 14

blackandamber says...

It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.
It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it. blackandamber
  • Score: -11

8:28am Fri 28 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

blackandamber wrote:
It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.
way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag
ers not enough front line staff.
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.[/p][/quote]way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag ers not enough front line staff. scraptheWAG
  • Score: 3

8:36am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

One of the first things that should be stopped is health tourism and overseas students, It costs the NHS a lot of money

There should be a penalty for failing to turn up for appointments as well say £5
At the RGH they could raise some money and reduce congestion on the Cardiff road by charging to use the main hospital car park say £3 but not for the other two car parks
One of the first things that should be stopped is health tourism and overseas students, It costs the NHS a lot of money There should be a penalty for failing to turn up for appointments as well say £5 At the RGH they could raise some money and reduce congestion on the Cardiff road by charging to use the main hospital car park say £3 but not for the other two car parks Bobevans
  • Score: -4

9:42am Fri 28 Feb 14

Magor says...

The NHS should run itself and have nothing to do with WAG.
The NHS should run itself and have nothing to do with WAG. Magor
  • Score: -18

10:28am Fri 28 Feb 14

gathin says...

At least the NHS is indiscriminately bad- very grim reading!
I'm sure if he'd have payed and gone private he would have had the same surgeon doing his op within a week.
If even the big dame can't get 'em to do their job there's really no hope for any of us.
RIP
At least the NHS is indiscriminately bad- very grim reading! I'm sure if he'd have payed and gone private he would have had the same surgeon doing his op within a week. If even the big dame can't get 'em to do their job there's really no hope for any of us. RIP gathin
  • Score: 11

12:22pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Llanmartinangel says...

sooty001 wrote:
Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well
Well when you consider that his beloved Labour party is idealogically opposed to clearing waiting lists using private providers, I'd say hoisted on one's own P'tad. I realise they've just U-turned on this but too late for this guy and far too many more just like him.
[quote][p][bold]sooty001[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well[/p][/quote]Well when you consider that his beloved Labour party is idealogically opposed to clearing waiting lists using private providers, I'd say hoisted on one's own P'tad. I realise they've just U-turned on this but too late for this guy and far too many more just like him. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -25

12:35pm Fri 28 Feb 14

coidmellyn says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
blackandamber wrote:
It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.
way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag

ers not enough front line staff.
I thought i would never say this but you are right. BUT?
Understanding the restraints put on the budgets of all nations in this kingdom.
There is only so much money to go round. Ron was a very wise man ,
He dealt with budgets for newport council in his time in office.
As i believe he would say you can only work with what you have got in the pot?
Now i do believe there are too many managers and not the nurses and doctors we need ? BUT which party is going to get these turkeys to vote for christmas.
Now on budgets it is a good ploy to deflect criticism by saying it is not as bad as in wales.BAD BAD.?
Bad when did we all except bad as the norm,
ALL YES ALL must take the responsibility.
And get the money and the manpower and the expertise to get this problem sorted.
As the prime minister said about flooding money is no object when in wales?
About the thames But he was asked about the flooding wales .
THE welsh government must deal with it out of their budget.
THE FIRST MINISTER SAID HE HAD TOOLS TO DO THE JOB IN HIS BOX?
Silly boy he is only like a toddler at christmas. He thought he was getting big boys toys. NOW HE REALISE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE GOT.
WALES IS A NATION WITHIN THE KINGDOMS.
There is a fundamental difference in your opinion and mine is we the people of wales must not except chocolate tools that melt in the heat of battle.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.[/p][/quote]way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag ers not enough front line staff.[/p][/quote]I thought i would never say this but you are right. BUT? Understanding the restraints put on the budgets of all nations in this kingdom. There is only so much money to go round. Ron was a very wise man , He dealt with budgets for newport council in his time in office. As i believe he would say you can only work with what you have got in the pot? Now i do believe there are too many managers and not the nurses and doctors we need ? BUT which party is going to get these turkeys to vote for christmas. Now on budgets it is a good ploy to deflect criticism by saying it is not as bad as in wales.BAD BAD.? Bad when did we all except bad as the norm, ALL YES ALL must take the responsibility. And get the money and the manpower and the expertise to get this problem sorted. As the prime minister said about flooding money is no object when in wales? About the thames But he was asked about the flooding wales . THE welsh government must deal with it out of their budget. THE FIRST MINISTER SAID HE HAD TOOLS TO DO THE JOB IN HIS BOX? Silly boy he is only like a toddler at christmas. He thought he was getting big boys toys. NOW HE REALISE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE GOT. WALES IS A NATION WITHIN THE KINGDOMS. There is a fundamental difference in your opinion and mine is we the people of wales must not except chocolate tools that melt in the heat of battle. coidmellyn
  • Score: -1

1:31pm Fri 28 Feb 14

gingertom says...

see:

youtube.com/watch?v=
hSLFeJYIw4E
see: youtube.com/watch?v= hSLFeJYIw4E gingertom
  • Score: -4

1:45pm Fri 28 Feb 14

subbie says...

Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around.
Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out?
Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County.
Sometimes shame is too weak a word.
Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around. Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out? Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County. Sometimes shame is too weak a word. subbie
  • Score: 4

1:46pm Fri 28 Feb 14

gingertom says...

Until consultant contracts are looked at then waiting lists will not change. The NHS lists are a constant supply to consultants and their private work. If you look at cardiff university online then mark drakeford works there aswell he must be worth some money. He needs to focus on his NHS job and get it sorted. WAG got money to spend 52 million on an airport and fund pinewood in wales. They need to sort out their priorities.
Until consultant contracts are looked at then waiting lists will not change. The NHS lists are a constant supply to consultants and their private work. If you look at cardiff university online then mark drakeford works there aswell he must be worth some money. He needs to focus on his NHS job and get it sorted. WAG got money to spend 52 million on an airport and fund pinewood in wales. They need to sort out their priorities. gingertom
  • Score: 4

1:49pm Fri 28 Feb 14

gingertom says...

When my father needed a triple bypass in 2008 the hold up was with royal gwent hospital. He spent 5 weeks in there watiing to be transferred to cardiff. When he got to cardiff they couldn't understand why he hadn't been sent down sooner. He was in cardiff three weeks altogether.
When my father needed a triple bypass in 2008 the hold up was with royal gwent hospital. He spent 5 weeks in there watiing to be transferred to cardiff. When he got to cardiff they couldn't understand why he hadn't been sent down sooner. He was in cardiff three weeks altogether. gingertom
  • Score: 0

2:04pm Fri 28 Feb 14

venga says...

I was a nurse for 40 years. In the 60's and into the early 70's my hospital, St Cadocs, had 10 admin staff including medical secretaries in the early days. By the time I left the hospital we had dozens of hospital based admin staff plus their support staff. We also had nursing officers of all levels plus their support staff. I remember seeing whole sections of the hospital taken over by managers, administrators all shuffling paper work around and bringing in a plethera of new systems and daft edicts just to justify their jobs. A number of these "essential" staff admitted to me that they did not have enough to do so spent hours hanging around wards drinking tea! s a charge nurse I was required to attend more and more meetings called by various senior heads of departments until I said that enough was enough and I refused to spend a large proportion of my time in talk shop and achieving nothing!
This is where a large chunk of the money is going plus over inflated prices charged by medical supply firms. I know because I saw it all first hand.
I was a nurse for 40 years. In the 60's and into the early 70's my hospital, St Cadocs, had 10 admin staff including medical secretaries in the early days. By the time I left the hospital we had dozens of hospital based admin staff plus their support staff. We also had nursing officers of all levels plus their support staff. I remember seeing whole sections of the hospital taken over by managers, administrators all shuffling paper work around and bringing in a plethera of new systems and daft edicts just to justify their jobs. A number of these "essential" staff admitted to me that they did not have enough to do so spent hours hanging around wards drinking tea! s a charge nurse I was required to attend more and more meetings called by various senior heads of departments until I said that enough was enough and I refused to spend a large proportion of my time in talk shop and achieving nothing! This is where a large chunk of the money is going plus over inflated prices charged by medical supply firms. I know because I saw it all first hand. venga
  • Score: 15

2:59pm Fri 28 Feb 14

blackandamber says...

coidmellyn wrote:
scraptheWAG wrote:
blackandamber wrote:
It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.
way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag


ers not enough front line staff.
I thought i would never say this but you are right. BUT?
Understanding the restraints put on the budgets of all nations in this kingdom.
There is only so much money to go round. Ron was a very wise man ,
He dealt with budgets for newport council in his time in office.
As i believe he would say you can only work with what you have got in the pot?
Now i do believe there are too many managers and not the nurses and doctors we need ? BUT which party is going to get these turkeys to vote for christmas.
Now on budgets it is a good ploy to deflect criticism by saying it is not as bad as in wales.BAD BAD.?
Bad when did we all except bad as the norm,
ALL YES ALL must take the responsibility.
And get the money and the manpower and the expertise to get this problem sorted.
As the prime minister said about flooding money is no object when in wales?
About the thames But he was asked about the flooding wales .
THE welsh government must deal with it out of their budget.
THE FIRST MINISTER SAID HE HAD TOOLS TO DO THE JOB IN HIS BOX?
Silly boy he is only like a toddler at christmas. He thought he was getting big boys toys. NOW HE REALISE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE GOT.
WALES IS A NATION WITHIN THE KINGDOMS.
There is a fundamental difference in your opinion and mine is we the people of wales must not except chocolate tools that melt in the heat of battle.
I'm afraid however unpalatable it may seem to some people the NHS needs to be run as a proper business.
[quote][p][bold]coidmellyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: It is tragic. But it's time that the politicians of all colours in this country realise that the sacred cow, the bottomless pit of the tax payers money needs root and branch reform. It is the fifth biggest employer in the world and is no longer fit for purpose. The problem is what politician/party is going to stick their neck out and do something about it.[/p][/quote]way too many chief and not enough indians i would imagine having worked in the public sector in the past - way to many administrators/manag ers not enough front line staff.[/p][/quote]I thought i would never say this but you are right. BUT? Understanding the restraints put on the budgets of all nations in this kingdom. There is only so much money to go round. Ron was a very wise man , He dealt with budgets for newport council in his time in office. As i believe he would say you can only work with what you have got in the pot? Now i do believe there are too many managers and not the nurses and doctors we need ? BUT which party is going to get these turkeys to vote for christmas. Now on budgets it is a good ploy to deflect criticism by saying it is not as bad as in wales.BAD BAD.? Bad when did we all except bad as the norm, ALL YES ALL must take the responsibility. And get the money and the manpower and the expertise to get this problem sorted. As the prime minister said about flooding money is no object when in wales? About the thames But he was asked about the flooding wales . THE welsh government must deal with it out of their budget. THE FIRST MINISTER SAID HE HAD TOOLS TO DO THE JOB IN HIS BOX? Silly boy he is only like a toddler at christmas. He thought he was getting big boys toys. NOW HE REALISE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE GOT. WALES IS A NATION WITHIN THE KINGDOMS. There is a fundamental difference in your opinion and mine is we the people of wales must not except chocolate tools that melt in the heat of battle.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid however unpalatable it may seem to some people the NHS needs to be run as a proper business. blackandamber
  • Score: -23

3:38pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Independentvoter says...

I feel so sad for Ms Allen. She has made 2 complaints against 2 Trusts, will they listen ? No. Will they learn from their mistakes ? No. The CEO of ABHB Dr Andrew Goodall should resign. Patients are fed up of his rehearsed excuses. Patients are fed up of cancelled operations at the very last minute. Patients are fed up of waiting years for treatment or surgery and sadly, some never make it. We need a CEO who will learn from the mistakes made in the NHS. A CEO who has the guts to apologise to patients when things go wrong. If the Gwent were incapable of performing the operative procedure in a timely manner then Mr Jones should have been referred to another hospital who were competent at performing such surgery. Shame on you Dr. Goodall, Newport lost a great man. R.I.P Ron Jones.
I feel so sad for Ms Allen. She has made 2 complaints against 2 Trusts, will they listen ? No. Will they learn from their mistakes ? No. The CEO of ABHB Dr Andrew Goodall should resign. Patients are fed up of his rehearsed excuses. Patients are fed up of cancelled operations at the very last minute. Patients are fed up of waiting years for treatment or surgery and sadly, some never make it. We need a CEO who will learn from the mistakes made in the NHS. A CEO who has the guts to apologise to patients when things go wrong. If the Gwent were incapable of performing the operative procedure in a timely manner then Mr Jones should have been referred to another hospital who were competent at performing such surgery. Shame on you Dr. Goodall, Newport lost a great man. R.I.P Ron Jones. Independentvoter
  • Score: 6

5:12pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Jazzerboy says...

I'm afraid it's another case of ageism in the NHS. I honestly believe that, after you reach the age of 70 (or maybe younger!) you become a low priority for the NHS. A neighbour of mine was actually told by a Consultant, when asking for a prognosis on his illness, that "well, you are 71, you've had a good life, what do you expect?" I've seen it with my own father-in-law over recent years. The level of care given to older patients is disgraceful and, as I'm 70 myself in another year, the prospect is daunting!
I'm afraid it's another case of ageism in the NHS. I honestly believe that, after you reach the age of 70 (or maybe younger!) you become a low priority for the NHS. A neighbour of mine was actually told by a Consultant, when asking for a prognosis on his illness, that "well, you are 71, you've had a good life, what do you expect?" I've seen it with my own father-in-law over recent years. The level of care given to older patients is disgraceful and, as I'm 70 myself in another year, the prospect is daunting! Jazzerboy
  • Score: 7

5:25pm Fri 28 Feb 14

gingertom says...

Martin turner, andrew cottom and now andrew goodall have not been effective, efficient or productive CEO's in the ABLHB. However, the irony is that they a) they wouldn't have to wait for treatment and B) they could afford to pay anyway so they will never find themselves in this position.
They have been allowed to get away with too much for too long.
Isn't it ironic that we now find that a review of the NHS is being led by Keith Evans and helping will be andrew goodall. YOU CANNOT MAKE IT UP.
Martin turner, andrew cottom and now andrew goodall have not been effective, efficient or productive CEO's in the ABLHB. However, the irony is that they a) they wouldn't have to wait for treatment and B) they could afford to pay anyway so they will never find themselves in this position. They have been allowed to get away with too much for too long. Isn't it ironic that we now find that a review of the NHS is being led by Keith Evans and helping will be andrew goodall. YOU CANNOT MAKE IT UP. gingertom
  • Score: 3

5:31pm Fri 28 Feb 14

gingertom says...

subbie says...

Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around.
Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out?
Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County.
Sometimes shame is too weak a word.

I totally agree if you had any of the tabloids based in wales the royal gwent would never had got this bad in the first place and it would have been sorted out years ago. The WAG must clap their hands that no one challenges them on it.
subbie says... Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around. Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out? Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County. Sometimes shame is too weak a word. I totally agree if you had any of the tabloids based in wales the royal gwent would never had got this bad in the first place and it would have been sorted out years ago. The WAG must clap their hands that no one challenges them on it. gingertom
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Fri 28 Feb 14

NewportianGirl says...

I'm not against helping out other countries but when you see that our own hospitals are suffering so much, you'd think they could hold back some of the BILLIONS they send abroad..... I know in some cases it's because rich foreign countries won't help their own but isn't that what seems to be taking place in the UK now too?
I'm not against helping out other countries but when you see that our own hospitals are suffering so much, you'd think they could hold back some of the BILLIONS they send abroad..... I know in some cases it's because rich foreign countries won't help their own but isn't that what seems to be taking place in the UK now too? NewportianGirl
  • Score: 0

8:47am Sat 1 Mar 14

Stevenboy says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
sooty001 wrote:
Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well
Well when you consider that his beloved Labour party is idealogically opposed to clearing waiting lists using private providers, I'd say hoisted on one's own P'tad. I realise they've just U-turned on this but too late for this guy and far too many more just like him.
Correct. One wonders if more dogmatic socialists saw their relatives die early unnecessarily, they'd have acted sooner. But since it was only the people paying the politicians wages they couldn't care less. One day the sheep in Wales will wake up to the fact that, far from the NHS being safe with them, Labour shouldn't be charged with running a whelk stall, let alone a matter of life and death.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sooty001[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful!!!when Ron served this City so well[/p][/quote]Well when you consider that his beloved Labour party is idealogically opposed to clearing waiting lists using private providers, I'd say hoisted on one's own P'tad. I realise they've just U-turned on this but too late for this guy and far too many more just like him.[/p][/quote]Correct. One wonders if more dogmatic socialists saw their relatives die early unnecessarily, they'd have acted sooner. But since it was only the people paying the politicians wages they couldn't care less. One day the sheep in Wales will wake up to the fact that, far from the NHS being safe with them, Labour shouldn't be charged with running a whelk stall, let alone a matter of life and death. Stevenboy
  • Score: -3

11:38am Sat 1 Mar 14

Stan Edwards says...

Have we had a comment from our elected Labour AM for Newport West?
Have we had a comment from our elected Labour AM for Newport West? Stan Edwards
  • Score: 1

4:13pm Sat 1 Mar 14

siameselady says...

Personally I find the whole thing quite frightening! Surely those with life threatening illness should be top priority? I don't think it matters where they are treated be it in England or in a private hospital. I feel sorry for the families who have lost loved ones while on the waiting list. I don't have any faith in the NHS while it is being run by the WAG...
Personally I find the whole thing quite frightening! Surely those with life threatening illness should be top priority? I don't think it matters where they are treated be it in England or in a private hospital. I feel sorry for the families who have lost loved ones while on the waiting list. I don't have any faith in the NHS while it is being run by the WAG... siameselady
  • Score: 1

9:54pm Sat 1 Mar 14

scraptheWAG says...

for example the WAG now employs 6000 people i think all basically producing nothing!
for example the WAG now employs 6000 people i think all basically producing nothing! scraptheWAG
  • Score: 2

12:35am Sun 2 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
for example the WAG now employs 6000 people i think all basically producing nothing!
Errr, yep. True.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: for example the WAG now employs 6000 people i think all basically producing nothing![/p][/quote]Errr, yep. True. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 2

7:29pm Wed 5 Mar 14

endthelies says...

Ive had two and a half years of ill health after previously being a very fit and active person. Its taken two years to be diagnosed with Lupus and a degenerative spinal disease. I was placed on a list to see a spinal surgeon and the wait was a minimum of seven months. I couldn't wait nearly another year to see if something could be done to help my mobility and so felt I had to pay to see a private consultant, or end up in a wheelchair. Unfortunately, it is now to late to operate and the damage is irreparable. Maybe if I hadn't had to wait a year to see a neurologist (honestly!) and then another six months to see a rheumatologist and then wait months inbetween for scans etc, my situation would now be better but alas its not to be. I don't know the answer to the question of how to improve the waiting list, I just feel I am suffering now because of them. My sympathies to Ron Jones family.
Ive had two and a half years of ill health after previously being a very fit and active person. Its taken two years to be diagnosed with Lupus and a degenerative spinal disease. I was placed on a list to see a spinal surgeon and the wait was a minimum of seven months. I couldn't wait nearly another year to see if something could be done to help my mobility and so felt I had to pay to see a private consultant, or end up in a wheelchair. Unfortunately, it is now to late to operate and the damage is irreparable. Maybe if I hadn't had to wait a year to see a neurologist (honestly!) and then another six months to see a rheumatologist and then wait months inbetween for scans etc, my situation would now be better but alas its not to be. I don't know the answer to the question of how to improve the waiting list, I just feel I am suffering now because of them. My sympathies to Ron Jones family. endthelies
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12:01pm Thu 6 Mar 14

subbie says...

gingertom wrote:
subbie says...

Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around.
Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out?
Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County.
Sometimes shame is too weak a word.

I totally agree if you had any of the tabloids based in wales the royal gwent would never had got this bad in the first place and it would have been sorted out years ago. The WAG must clap their hands that no one challenges them on it.
The lack of a tabloid press to question the WAG was my original complaint - the provincial press is too compliant and eager to please. The answer if anyone is interested is our hospitals mostly shut down for half term as they do for all school holidays. A Conservative AM wasn't interested as well as the editor of this once esteemed newspaper.
[quote][p][bold]gingertom[/bold] wrote: subbie says... Sometime ago I asked the editor to campaign to improve the disgrace that is NHS Wales and yes I also find the irony sad but what comes around goes around. Yesterday my wife was the only specialist nurse working at a major Gwent hospital and was running the only clinic - all others were cancelled. She couldn't find a consultant so was forced to explain treatment and how to write a prescription to a junior doctor. And the reason? Come on Dave and Kev - can you work it out? Today we have an editorial about Kev losing a good mate at the County. Sometimes shame is too weak a word. I totally agree if you had any of the tabloids based in wales the royal gwent would never had got this bad in the first place and it would have been sorted out years ago. The WAG must clap their hands that no one challenges them on it.[/p][/quote]The lack of a tabloid press to question the WAG was my original complaint - the provincial press is too compliant and eager to please. The answer if anyone is interested is our hospitals mostly shut down for half term as they do for all school holidays. A Conservative AM wasn't interested as well as the editor of this once esteemed newspaper. subbie
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8:40pm Thu 6 Mar 14

endthelies says...

endthelies wrote:
Ive had two and a half years of ill health after previously being a very fit and active person. Its taken two years to be diagnosed with Lupus and a degenerative spinal disease. I was placed on a list to see a spinal surgeon and the wait was a minimum of seven months. I couldn't wait nearly another year to see if something could be done to help my mobility and so felt I had to pay to see a private consultant, or end up in a wheelchair. Unfortunately, it is now to late to operate and the damage is irreparable. Maybe if I hadn't had to wait a year to see a neurologist (honestly!) and then another six months to see a rheumatologist and then wait months inbetween for scans etc, my situation would now be better but alas its not to be. I don't know the answer to the question of how to improve the waiting list, I just feel I am suffering now because of them. My sympathies to Ron Jones family.
Ive been marked down! what for! there's some sick people on this site for sure. Good job theres others on here to counteract it.
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: Ive had two and a half years of ill health after previously being a very fit and active person. Its taken two years to be diagnosed with Lupus and a degenerative spinal disease. I was placed on a list to see a spinal surgeon and the wait was a minimum of seven months. I couldn't wait nearly another year to see if something could be done to help my mobility and so felt I had to pay to see a private consultant, or end up in a wheelchair. Unfortunately, it is now to late to operate and the damage is irreparable. Maybe if I hadn't had to wait a year to see a neurologist (honestly!) and then another six months to see a rheumatologist and then wait months inbetween for scans etc, my situation would now be better but alas its not to be. I don't know the answer to the question of how to improve the waiting list, I just feel I am suffering now because of them. My sympathies to Ron Jones family.[/p][/quote]Ive been marked down! what for! there's some sick people on this site for sure. Good job theres others on here to counteract it. endthelies
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