Gwent PCC's devolution warning

South Wales Argus: WARNING: Gwent police and crime commissioner Ian Johnston WARNING: Gwent police and crime commissioner Ian Johnston

POLICING should be devolved to Wales, and the number of AMs increased, the Silk Comission report said yesterday. But Gwent's PCC told politics reporter DAVID DEANS devolving forces will would not be a simple matter.

GWENT’S police and crime commissioner Ian Johnston has warned against devolution for devolution’s sake after a major report called for policing to be devolved.

The Silk Commission yesterday called for a rack of new powers for the Assembly, including for speed and drink and drive limits to be set in Wales. It said the whole model should be overhauled to make it clearer, with more AMs to better scrutinise Welsh laws and the work of the Welsh Government.

The report has had a broad welcome across the political spectrum in the Assembly but got a frosty reception from at least two Gwent MPs.

It is unlikely any of the measures that need new laws will come to fruition before 2015.

Yesterday’s report is the second and last to be produced by the Silk Commission on the future of devolution – which in 2012 had called for Wales to have some tax raising powers.

According to the report’s 61 recommendations policing and the related areas of community safety and crime prevention should be devolved.

However the commission says arrest powers, interrogation, charging suspects and the general powers of constables should not be devolved unless criminal law is devolved.

The Silk report also calls for the youth justice system to be devolved immediately, with a feasibility study to look at the devolution of prisons and probation.

It says there should be a review within ten years of whether other aspects of the justice system should be put in Welsh hands.

Gwent’s Police and Crime Commissioner Ian Johnston said if policing were to be devolved control of parts of the criminal justice system would have to be given to Wales as well, as they are closely linked.

He warned against “devolution for devolution’s sake” and said the recommendations in the report raise “a number of important questions regarding the detail of how some of these responsibilities would be devolved”.

Mr Johnston said: “Only if the recommendations can be shown to add value to the current position should they be considered.”

“It’s not simply a matter of devolving policing,” he said. “You can’t take it apart piecemeal – it’s much more complex than that. Many areas of policing and the criminal justice system are so intrinsically linked that if you devolve one you would have to devolve many more.” Yesterday the force’s chief constable Jeff Farrar wasn’t making any comment – however the previous chief constable Carmel Napier had said transferring powers should be supported subject to a robust assessment.

Commission chairman Paul Silk said the report’s recommendations would “create a stronger Welsh democracy and bring Wales more in line with the other devolved countries of the UK.”

At a press conference he argued that devolution of policing would allow for crime and criminality to be tackled “holistically” and bring responsibility for all emergency services in Wales together.

As well as policing, the report calls for the Wales and Border rail franchise, currently operated by Arriva, to be devolved, together with funding of Network Rail in the country.

Speed limits and drink drive limits should be devolved, as should bus and taxi regulation, the commission argues.

National director of cycling charity Sustrans Jane Lorimer welcomed the Silk Commission’s recommendation on speed limits and hoped “that it can be used to make 20mph the default speed limit in communities across Wales.”

Currently devolution in Wales works through a so-called conferred powers system, meaning laws lay down what the Assembly can do rather than what it can’t.

But the Commission says this system is too complex, and instead called for a reserved powers model which works the other way around, bringing Wales in line with Scotland and Northern Ireland.

According to the commission such a system would make Wales’ responsibilities clearer.

The report calls on the number of AMs to be increased so that the Assembly can perform its scrutiny and role better – saying the Assembly is simply too small to fulfil its role adequately.

But the report doesn’t define how many extra members there should be, simply noting that most analysis suggests it should comprise at least eighty members.

Former Welsh Government minister and commission member Jane Davidson said: “Our job has been to try to make something which is hugely complicated, much clearer.”

She said that the largest group of people in Wales “do want the Assembly to have more power”.

But she said “if the Assembly has more power then you need backbenchers, you need more people to hold the government to account.” Paul Flynn, Labour MP for Newport West, acknowledged public opinion was against having more politicians. However he argued: “People have said by a large majority that they want more powers.

“Part of more powers is more scrutiny – you can’t do it effectively with the present set up.”

But David Davies, Tory MP for Monmouth who helped set up the No campaign in the 1997 Welsh referendum, said he “completely rejected” the report, saying he couldn’t see the argument for more AMs.

He said: “At the end of the day why can’t they just work slightly longer hours? Why give them extra powers if they can’t do the job at the moment?”

Islwyn Labour MP Chris Evans said: “Once again we are debating constitutional matters when we should be dealing with bread and butter issues.

“Constituents of mine in Islwyn are not interested in how big committees are in the Welsh Assembly or how many politicians there are in Cardiff Bay.

“Instead, they are concerned with the increase in energy and food prices, the rising cost of travel and job creation. It is these issues which I think politicians should be debating, not the latest proposals from Silk.”

National Assembly presiding officer and Labour Newport West AM Dame Rosemary Butler was strongly in support of the findings, saying the package of recommendations “provides a strong basis for the development of devolution in Wales”.

She said she was pleased that the commission agreed with her position that the Assembly should have the right to call itself the Welsh Parliament – a name she said “better reflects our position as a mature parliamentary body.”

Policing expert Professor Colin Rogers of the University of South Wales helped to formulate the Institute of Welsh Affairs’ response to the Silk Commission.

He didn’t think communities would see much of a difference at a grass roots level but said “there will be a strengthening of the community safety aspect” which is a devolved function. He said: “People like myself talk about policing and the police as a visible manifestation of the power of the state. We see the uniforms and don’t realise but they are there for our benefit and for the benefit of the state. So what better statement from a new government than to have some form of (control over) policing in its own borders?”

l Wales’ first minister Carwyn Jones said he was delighted that the Welsh Government proposals for a long term settlement formed the basis of the Commission’s recommendations, indicating there will be an Assembly debate on the issue after Easter.

“I want the United Kingdom to flourish, and a devolved Wales to play a dynamic role in it. But for this to happen, the governance of the UK must adapt to the reality of its devolved democracy and the aspirations of its citizens,” he said.

In the Assembly itself Andrew RT Davies, Welsh Tory leader, “all political parties should study these recommendations in detail”, while the Liberal Democrat’s Kirsty Williams said the report sets out an “ideal blueprint.” Plaid parliamentary leader Elfyn Llwyd MP welcomed policing proposals but said “it is frustrating to see little progress being made on creating a Welsh legal jurisdiction.” Prime Minister David Cameron said: “The tax and borrowing powers we are devolving will give the Welsh Assembly and Welsh Government additional means to help generate economic growth and today’s report makes recommendations that propose a new course for the future.”

Wales’ first minister Carwyn Jones said he was delighted that the Welsh Government proposals for a long term settlement formed the basis of the Commission’s recommendations, indicating there will be an Assembly debate on the issue after Easter.

“I want the United Kingdom to flourish, and a devolved Wales to play a dynamic role in it. But for this to happen, the governance of the UK must adapt to the reality of its devolved democracy and the aspirations of its citizens,” he said.

In the Assembly itself Andrew RT Davies, Welsh Tory leader, “all political parties should study these recommendations in detail”, while the Lib Dem’s Kirsty Williams said the report sets out an “ideal blueprint.”

Plaid parliamentary leader Elfyn Llwyd MP welcomed policing proposals but said "it is frustrating to see little progress being made on creating a Welsh legal jurisdiction."

Prime Minister David Cameron said: "The tax and borrowing powers we are devolving will give the Welsh Assembly and Welsh Government additional means to help generate economic growth and today's report makes recommendations that propose a new course for the future.”

Nick Clegg, deputy prime minister, said: “The proposed measures in that could mean big changes for everyone in Wales: more local decisions over how your taxes are spent, more powers over how much Wales borrows and more importantly, more decisions about Wales made by the people of Wales”.

But the Secretary of State for Wales David Jones said "there is insufficient time remaining in this Parliament to implement any changes that require primary legislation.

“These will therefore be a matter for the next Government and Parliament, and for political parties to set out their proposals and intentions to the electorate ahead of the General Election in 2015.”

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9:51am Tue 4 Mar 14

Walter Devereux says...

Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?
Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control? Walter Devereux
  • Score: 31

9:57am Tue 4 Mar 14

theviking666 says...

Less assembly members, more police could be a good idea
Less assembly members, more police could be a good idea theviking666
  • Score: 27

10:47am Tue 4 Mar 14

Sometimes says...

Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.
Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax. Sometimes
  • Score: 11

11:15am Tue 4 Mar 14

Banjalucka says...

Many problems in the making here i fear. On police, there are going to be quite a few anomolies.
And, lo and behold, as predicted a decade ago, there will be more staff and it seems more AMs. Totally out of order.
Many problems in the making here i fear. On police, there are going to be quite a few anomolies. And, lo and behold, as predicted a decade ago, there will be more staff and it seems more AMs. Totally out of order. Banjalucka
  • Score: 17

11:42am Tue 4 Mar 14

white white says...

Sometimes wrote:
Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.
Makes sense,but drop the pccs
[quote][p][bold]Sometimes[/bold] wrote: Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.[/p][/quote]Makes sense,but drop the pccs white white
  • Score: 3

11:48am Tue 4 Mar 14

davidcp says...

The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear.

How objective.
The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective. davidcp
  • Score: 20

12:45pm Tue 4 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

davidcp wrote:
The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.
actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian.

but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.[/p][/quote]actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian. but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh? whatintheworld
  • Score: -10

1:45pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Grimpig says...

It will be the usual reaction. We have more powers, more work, so we need more AMs and a pay rise for all the extra work they will devolve to other. The present AM's have let this country down badly. They are over paid for the performances they have been putting in of late.
It will be the usual reaction. We have more powers, more work, so we need more AMs and a pay rise for all the extra work they will devolve to other. The present AM's have let this country down badly. They are over paid for the performances they have been putting in of late. Grimpig
  • Score: 15

1:48pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Grimpig says...

It will end up with the usual reactions to being given more powers. We need more AM's to do the extra work, more staff to support the extra AM's and of course we will need a pay rise to make up for all the other work we wont have to do. This present crop of AM's are self serving and I can't see what progress Wales has made in the last 5-10 years under this present group of AM's, whatever party they belong to.
It will end up with the usual reactions to being given more powers. We need more AM's to do the extra work, more staff to support the extra AM's and of course we will need a pay rise to make up for all the other work we wont have to do. This present crop of AM's are self serving and I can't see what progress Wales has made in the last 5-10 years under this present group of AM's, whatever party they belong to. Grimpig
  • Score: 10

2:26pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people.
How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.
As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly. Dai Rear
  • Score: 10

2:42pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Realist UK says...

Call for devolution and you're considered a Nationalist, call for less immigration and you're considered a racist.
Call for devolution and you're considered a Nationalist, call for less immigration and you're considered a racist. Realist UK
  • Score: 8

2:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

Dai Rear wrote:
As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.
how about extending that 60% representation clause to MPs? the house would look a little thin on the floor...
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]how about extending that 60% representation clause to MPs? the house would look a little thin on the floor... whatintheworld
  • Score: 5

4:24pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Aquarius says...

Sometimes wrote:
Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.
Yeah - problem is, it never seems to work that way, does it?????!
[quote][p][bold]Sometimes[/bold] wrote: Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.[/p][/quote]Yeah - problem is, it never seems to work that way, does it?????! Aquarius
  • Score: 4

4:29pm Tue 4 Mar 14

BUDDAH WELSH says...

Grimpig wrote:
It will be the usual reaction. We have more powers, more work, so we need more AMs and a pay rise for all the extra work they will devolve to other. The present AM's have let this country down badly. They are over paid for the performances they have been putting in of late.
Walter Devereux says...
Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?

Sometimes says...
Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax.

.Some great comments on here get rid of all the AMs and vote for people who care about Wales and its communities.
[quote][p][bold]Grimpig[/bold] wrote: It will be the usual reaction. We have more powers, more work, so we need more AMs and a pay rise for all the extra work they will devolve to other. The present AM's have let this country down badly. They are over paid for the performances they have been putting in of late.[/p][/quote]Walter Devereux says... Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control? Sometimes says... Bring on a single police force, with one Chief Constable, one PCC and one police authority, there should be enough savings to increase foot patrols and bring down council tax. .Some great comments on here get rid of all the AMs and vote for people who care about Wales and its communities. BUDDAH WELSH
  • Score: 5

5:26pm Tue 4 Mar 14

westsi1983 says...

Why not just pay the politicians (PCCs) included, based on the proportion of the electorate that voted for them??? So if 20% turn out and 50% of that 20% vote for the person who wins, then the person gets 10% (50% of 20%) of the salary for that job... Incentivises engagement of the voting public... Politicians like apathy, as they still get their money...
Why not just pay the politicians (PCCs) included, based on the proportion of the electorate that voted for them??? So if 20% turn out and 50% of that 20% vote for the person who wins, then the person gets 10% (50% of 20%) of the salary for that job... Incentivises engagement of the voting public... Politicians like apathy, as they still get their money... westsi1983
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

whatintheworld wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.
how about extending that 60% representation clause to MPs? the house would look a little thin on the floor...
Well said what. They might even listen to the electorate if that threat hung over them. However I suspect that there'd be some constituencies in Bradford , Birmingham and Leeds which could be relied upon for a 110% turnout on postal votes.
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]how about extending that 60% representation clause to MPs? the house would look a little thin on the floor...[/p][/quote]Well said what. They might even listen to the electorate if that threat hung over them. However I suspect that there'd be some constituencies in Bradford , Birmingham and Leeds which could be relied upon for a 110% turnout on postal votes. Dai Rear
  • Score: 6

8:13pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Monmouthshire Merlin says...

Walter Devereux wrote:
Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?
100 % agree.
Property tax in England in 2014 will increase on average by 0.6%. The highest increase will be 0.8% !
There has been little increase over the last 4 years. Here under WAG over the same period we have seen an average increase of 16%!!
It is no good blaming Westminster for a reduced settlement. You have a budget and you decide what you are going to spend it on.
Too much has been squandered on The Welsh language, at the expense of our NHS, Social Services and education.
Time to abolish WAG and send the money direct to the local authorities!!!
[quote][p][bold]Walter Devereux[/bold] wrote: Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?[/p][/quote]100 % agree. Property tax in England in 2014 will increase on average by 0.6%. The highest increase will be 0.8% ! There has been little increase over the last 4 years. Here under WAG over the same period we have seen an average increase of 16%!! It is no good blaming Westminster for a reduced settlement. You have a budget and you decide what you are going to spend it on. Too much has been squandered on The Welsh language, at the expense of our NHS, Social Services and education. Time to abolish WAG and send the money direct to the local authorities!!! Monmouthshire Merlin
  • Score: 6

8:28pm Tue 4 Mar 14

blackandamber says...

Scrap the WAG enough of this madness.
Scrap the WAG enough of this madness. blackandamber
  • Score: 9

9:12pm Tue 4 Mar 14

davidcp says...

whatintheworld wrote:
davidcp wrote:
The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.
actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian.

but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?
Maybe my source was wrong but who was the panel sourced from?
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.[/p][/quote]actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian. but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?[/p][/quote]Maybe my source was wrong but who was the panel sourced from? davidcp
  • Score: 0

7:55am Wed 5 Mar 14

scraptheWAG says...

whatintheworld wrote:
davidcp wrote:
The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.
actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian.

but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?
why do they not get someone in from indutry to decide not some career civil servant who is used to vast waste and over staffing
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.[/p][/quote]actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian. but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?[/p][/quote]why do they not get someone in from indutry to decide not some career civil servant who is used to vast waste and over staffing scraptheWAG
  • Score: 1

1:02pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Walter Devereux wrote:
Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?
Couldn't have put it better myself.
[quote][p][bold]Walter Devereux[/bold] wrote: Who in their right mind would allow different speed limits and drink-drive limits? What possible purpose would that serve other than utter confusion? This devolution experiment has been an abject failure and yet we are proposing giving these buffoons MORE control?[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better myself. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 2

8:08pm Wed 5 Mar 14

coalpicker says...

Dai Rear wrote:
As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people.
How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.
Those who abstain are the reason we keep getting the governance we do not deserve,but then you cannot educate pork .
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: As a local council clerk said in 1974 of the disastrous Heath counties mutilation. "They (the State) may reorganise as frequently as they wish. each time my salary leaps up" Clerks love all this stuff. It is of no benefit to real people. How about a law that says an AM could only be elected if s/he received 60% of the vote of the registered electorate? Abstention then becomes powerful, as it should be. Many abstain because they are sick of the whole monkey enclosure of those who wish to be elected.Such a law would end the totally pointless Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]Those who abstain are the reason we keep getting the governance we do not deserve,but then you cannot educate pork . coalpicker
  • Score: 3

9:39am Sat 8 Mar 14

Howie' says...

davidcp wrote:
whatintheworld wrote:
davidcp wrote:
The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.
actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian.

but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?
Maybe my source was wrong but who was the panel sourced from?
The Commission is chaired by Paul Silk who had eight unpaid members on the panel drawn from academia, Welsh businesses, Civic Society and each the four main political parties.
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: The Silk Commission, put together by WAG to tell WAG what WAG wanted to hear. How objective.[/p][/quote]actually, it was put together by the then secretary for wales cheryl gillian. but why let facts get in the way of a good WG-bashing eh?[/p][/quote]Maybe my source was wrong but who was the panel sourced from?[/p][/quote]The Commission is chaired by Paul Silk who had eight unpaid members on the panel drawn from academia, Welsh businesses, Civic Society and each the four main political parties. Howie'
  • Score: 0

11:06pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

Greetings People of Newport,
As some of you may remember, if anyone's read my Comments, I am not from Wales or actually IN Wales, and have NEVER been to Wales. I am writing to you from Turangi in New Zealand.
When I read this morning's issue of South Wales ARGUS, a number of items caught my attention. The Festival Clock (I checked it out on You Tube, too.), the destruction of The Charterists Mural, and now, this. Local Speed Limits on the Roads and Drink Drive Alcohol Levels.
As I mentioned, I was in You Tube looking at your Clock and the Mural, and I also had a "Drive Around Gwent" on a bit of a Tiki Tour.
My observations of your roads are, your Roads are in very good condition, but, because your City is literally HUNREDS of Years old, compared to apporoximately 100 Years old, and in some cases, 75 Years old for some of our Roads in NZ, you roads were NOT designed for Modern Traffic. They are Narrow. "We" were roaring around Gwent avoiding traffic not only coming AT us, but BESIDE us, too. The roads may be two Lanes (To and From), but, to get anywhere, you're actually forced, in places, to drive down the middle, because there are cars PARKED on both sides. I got a fright in one place when a BUS suddenly appeared at speed and roared past us.
Remembering the item about the written off Classic Car, and the mentioned Speed Limit of 40 MPH, I was SHOCKED!! That is far too fast for built up areas. Here in NZ, the Speed Limit for built up areas, Residential Areas and City areas, is 30 MPH or 50 KPH (We're Metric now. BUGGER!). Some residential areas are 15 MPH or 20 KPH. When I was living in Brisbane in Queensland, their City Speed Limit is 35 MPH, which to me is far too fast. But, YOUR 40 MPH is just plain Ridiculous. Its just plain DANGEROUS!!! That Classic Car was being driven AT SPEED. How else would it end up on it's roof and take out several other cars? For Feck's Sake SLOW DOWN!!!
Drink Drive "Limits"? I have a very GOOD one! ZERO!! DON'T DRINK AT ALL!!! These so-called Drink Drive Limits exist because the DRUNKS INSIST on Driving. The Alcohol Limits are to say, "Okay, HAVE a drink, but, if you exceed this Alcohol Level, you're knicked!"
IF you're deadly serious about Controlling Drink Driving, introduce a ZERO Alcohol Level. NO DRINKING AT ALL!!
The real Key to all this is Good Self Discipline, Control and RESPONSIBILITY. YOU are Responsible for Driving YOUR Expensive car(or even an old bomb), its YOUR only Transport. YOU Wreck it, its YOUR fault! Kill anyone, or yourself, its YOUR Fault.
SLOW DOWN!! The FASTER you go, the BIGGER The Mess!
Use COMMON SENSE, and you DON'T need a commitee full of idiots to bring THAT into action.
Thank You for allowing me to submit this to you.
Take good care!! Remember, "WALING" is ILLEGAL!! Stop killing each other! (SORRY! A little Humour won't hurt to help you remember.)
Greetings People of Newport, As some of you may remember, if anyone's read my Comments, I am not from Wales or actually IN Wales, and have NEVER been to Wales. I am writing to you from Turangi in New Zealand. When I read this morning's issue of South Wales ARGUS, a number of items caught my attention. The Festival Clock (I checked it out on You Tube, too.), the destruction of The Charterists Mural, and now, this. Local Speed Limits on the Roads and Drink Drive Alcohol Levels. As I mentioned, I was in You Tube looking at your Clock and the Mural, and I also had a "Drive Around Gwent" on a bit of a Tiki Tour. My observations of your roads are, your Roads are in very good condition, but, because your City is literally HUNREDS of Years old, compared to apporoximately 100 Years old, and in some cases, 75 Years old for some of our Roads in NZ, you roads were NOT designed for Modern Traffic. They are Narrow. "We" were roaring around Gwent avoiding traffic not only coming AT us, but BESIDE us, too. The roads may be two Lanes (To and From), but, to get anywhere, you're actually forced, in places, to drive down the middle, because there are cars PARKED on both sides. I got a fright in one place when a BUS suddenly appeared at speed and roared past us. Remembering the item about the written off Classic Car, and the mentioned Speed Limit of 40 MPH, I was SHOCKED!! That is far too fast for built up areas. Here in NZ, the Speed Limit for built up areas, Residential Areas and City areas, is 30 MPH or 50 KPH (We're Metric now. BUGGER!). Some residential areas are 15 MPH or 20 KPH. When I was living in Brisbane in Queensland, their City Speed Limit is 35 MPH, which to me is far too fast. But, YOUR 40 MPH is just plain Ridiculous. Its just plain DANGEROUS!!! That Classic Car was being driven AT SPEED. How else would it end up on it's roof and take out several other cars? For Feck's Sake SLOW DOWN!!! Drink Drive "Limits"? I have a very GOOD one! ZERO!! DON'T DRINK AT ALL!!! These so-called Drink Drive Limits exist because the DRUNKS INSIST on Driving. The Alcohol Limits are to say, "Okay, HAVE a drink, but, if you exceed this Alcohol Level, you're knicked!" IF you're deadly serious about Controlling Drink Driving, introduce a ZERO Alcohol Level. NO DRINKING AT ALL!! The real Key to all this is Good Self Discipline, Control and RESPONSIBILITY. YOU are Responsible for Driving YOUR Expensive car(or even an old bomb), its YOUR only Transport. YOU Wreck it, its YOUR fault! Kill anyone, or yourself, its YOUR Fault. SLOW DOWN!! The FASTER you go, the BIGGER The Mess! Use COMMON SENSE, and you DON'T need a commitee full of idiots to bring THAT into action. Thank You for allowing me to submit this to you. Take good care!! Remember, "WALING" is ILLEGAL!! Stop killing each other! (SORRY! A little Humour won't hurt to help you remember.) Paul F. McCourt
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