SportsDirect could appeal over Newport superstore

South Wales Argus: (4457729) (4457729)

A SPORTSWEAR retailer that had a planning application turned down by Newport council says it is thinking about appealing.

SportsDirect had wanted to move its Newport Retail Park store into the vacant Megabowl building nearby but its joint planning application with Johnsey Estates was turned down.

The Argus reported yesterday that the firm said it would have created 150 jobs on the site. The application did not go to planning committee for approval, with the decision instead left to officers.

It was decided the proposals would significantly harm the “vitality and viability” of the city centre.

That move was made despite Newport council having previously lost an appeal in 2008 after it turned down an application for mixed leisure and retail use at Megabowl.

Queensberry Real Estate, developers of the Friars Walk project, objected to the application, citing inaccuracies in the applicants’ test of whether other retail locations could accommodate SportsDirect.

A spokeswoman for the retailer said: “SportsDirect is considering appealing the decision, but nothing has been confirmed as yet.”

SportsDirect said on Thursday it was disappointed by the refusal, having intended to invest £5 million to create a 35,000 square feet retail unit with a 20,000 sq ft gym.

However officers had argued the proposals would cause significant harm to “interests of acknowledged importance, namely the vitality and viability of the sequentially preferable city centre”.

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10:45am Sat 8 Mar 14

scraptheWAG says...

bit too late to worry about that besides if you are going to make a gym it needs to be out of town due to the parking issue
bit too late to worry about that besides if you are going to make a gym it needs to be out of town due to the parking issue scraptheWAG
  • Score: 13

10:54am Sat 8 Mar 14

inkyskin says...

can't see why it can't reopen as a bowling place! cwmbran is always busy :/
can't see why it can't reopen as a bowling place! cwmbran is always busy :/ inkyskin
  • Score: 21

11:14am Sat 8 Mar 14

VoiceOfDaPort says...

Newport Council are nothing more than Queensberry Real Estate's lapdogs.
Newport Council are nothing more than Queensberry Real Estate's lapdogs. VoiceOfDaPort
  • Score: 19

11:22am Sat 8 Mar 14

Floppy backed says...

Sorry to say I think an appeal will win and that will cost Newport Council. I could see no reason why it was refused there was no basis of refusal. Too many precedents have already been made and its change of use not new development.

As for 150 jobs think that's rather optimistic and over zealous. Does this figure include the works force needed to refubish? These wont all be full time either and not well paid. I do hate these farcical figures that developers make up!
Sorry to say I think an appeal will win and that will cost Newport Council. I could see no reason why it was refused there was no basis of refusal. Too many precedents have already been made and its change of use not new development. As for 150 jobs think that's rather optimistic and over zealous. Does this figure include the works force needed to refubish? These wont all be full time either and not well paid. I do hate these farcical figures that developers make up! Floppy backed
  • Score: 8

11:42am Sat 8 Mar 14

Dixie Smith says...

“interests of acknowledged importance, namely the vitality and viability of the sequentially preferable city centre”.

Presumably the above means Planning Officers would prefer to develop the City Centre which considering Spytty is now the main hub of shopping, coffee shops, place to eat is a pointless stance to take now.
“interests of acknowledged importance, namely the vitality and viability of the sequentially preferable city centre”. Presumably the above means Planning Officers would prefer to develop the City Centre which considering Spytty is now the main hub of shopping, coffee shops, place to eat is a pointless stance to take now. Dixie Smith
  • Score: 14

11:56am Sat 8 Mar 14

BernardCCC says...

Floppy backed wrote:
Sorry to say I think an appeal will win and that will cost Newport Council. I could see no reason why it was refused there was no basis of refusal. Too many precedents have already been made and its change of use not new development.

As for 150 jobs think that's rather optimistic and over zealous. Does this figure include the works force needed to refubish? These wont all be full time either and not well paid. I do hate these farcical figures that developers make up!
I'm not sure about 150 jobs either...but it will bring jobs...completely agree with everything else you wrote.
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: Sorry to say I think an appeal will win and that will cost Newport Council. I could see no reason why it was refused there was no basis of refusal. Too many precedents have already been made and its change of use not new development. As for 150 jobs think that's rather optimistic and over zealous. Does this figure include the works force needed to refubish? These wont all be full time either and not well paid. I do hate these farcical figures that developers make up![/p][/quote]I'm not sure about 150 jobs either...but it will bring jobs...completely agree with everything else you wrote. BernardCCC
  • Score: 7

2:34pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Mike0408 says...

If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films.

But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out.
If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films. But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out. Mike0408
  • Score: 6

4:05pm Sat 8 Mar 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Reading the article fully you'll see that there has already been an application granted for mixed use back in 2011. Which had to go to appeal. I think that the developers are taking the mickey, they didn't develop it in 2011 and are now getting greedy and want to make more money on it. Why wasn't it developed as per planning application in 2011. As far as I'm concerend they already have planning permission and if thats not enough tough luck.
Reading the article fully you'll see that there has already been an application granted for mixed use back in 2011. Which had to go to appeal. I think that the developers are taking the mickey, they didn't develop it in 2011 and are now getting greedy and want to make more money on it. Why wasn't it developed as per planning application in 2011. As far as I'm concerend they already have planning permission and if thats not enough tough luck. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 1

4:27pm Sat 8 Mar 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future.

As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit.

If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself.

The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site.
Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future. As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit. If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself. The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Sat 8 Mar 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Oh I missed that, the application for change of use to food retail came after the appeal for the cange of use to mixed use in 2008.

As far as I see it, it's not the councils fault that this building has been laying empty for this amount of time it's the developers fault for tying it up in planning applications for what must be 6 years.
Oh I missed that, the application for change of use to food retail came after the appeal for the cange of use to mixed use in 2008. As far as I see it, it's not the councils fault that this building has been laying empty for this amount of time it's the developers fault for tying it up in planning applications for what must be 6 years. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future.

As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit.

If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself.

The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site.
They were speculative applications to try to attract businesses. The planning applications have now lapsed but president is now set. They now have a firm taker for it.

Other than delay it Newport council cannot stop it. It will go to appeal and they will win
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future. As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit. If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself. The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site.[/p][/quote]They were speculative applications to try to attract businesses. The planning applications have now lapsed but president is now set. They now have a firm taker for it. Other than delay it Newport council cannot stop it. It will go to appeal and they will win Bobevans
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Sat 8 Mar 14

VoiceOfDaPort says...

Mike0408 wrote:
If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films.

But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out.
The cinema is moving to the city centre as part of Friars Walk.

Although it would be nice to have a bowling alley back in Newport, the Megabowl site was just too big in the end and was empty of customers for large parts, which when you take into account the £million plus per annum rent that Johnsey Estates wanted when it closed, means it wasn't making any money.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sports Direct are looking to use it as a distribution point for their online sales as well as a superstore.
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films. But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out.[/p][/quote]The cinema is moving to the city centre as part of Friars Walk. Although it would be nice to have a bowling alley back in Newport, the Megabowl site was just too big in the end and was empty of customers for large parts, which when you take into account the £million plus per annum rent that Johnsey Estates wanted when it closed, means it wasn't making any money. I wouldn't be surprised if Sports Direct are looking to use it as a distribution point for their online sales as well as a superstore. VoiceOfDaPort
  • Score: 4

8:23pm Sat 8 Mar 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Bobevans wrote:
grumpyandopinionated wrote:
Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future.

As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit.

If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself.

The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site.
They were speculative applications to try to attract businesses. The planning applications have now lapsed but president is now set. They now have a firm taker for it.

Other than delay it Newport council cannot stop it. It will go to appeal and they will win
President has been set for change of use not change in size. You are right and it will go through on appeal as these things always will. I'm not against the idea of creating jobs or having something that gives value to the area that it serves. My thought is that its only going to put strain on the lesuire services offered by the council and the other gyms in the area and overall may force the council to close these services and the other businesses to reduce thier numbers of staff, so it'd be like robbing peter to pay paul.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: Actually upon further reading of this, the application that has been refused is the application to expand the site. They already have planning for the change of use but now they want a bigger site. I think that they should just build what thewy have planning permission for and then if they are able to create the jobs mentioned and not impact too much on the current businesses that operate similar gyms then they can allways expand in the future. As I see it the current siz of unit they have in comparison to what they want is massive. I think that newport city is right to reign them in as what happens if it doesn't come off then you'll have an even bigger empty unit. If you look for the history of planning applications for this building there has been a steady stream of applications to change this and ammend that. All they are doing is just pushing for more and more. There needs to be a cut off and I'm thinking that this is it. They were even granted permission for change of use in 2010 for a large food store which would have then been a change of use in itself. The one application passed was for 5 units of varying size with mixed use towards the end of 2012. So what exactly is going on and can they just make up thier minds on what they are going to do with the site.[/p][/quote]They were speculative applications to try to attract businesses. The planning applications have now lapsed but president is now set. They now have a firm taker for it. Other than delay it Newport council cannot stop it. It will go to appeal and they will win[/p][/quote]President has been set for change of use not change in size. You are right and it will go through on appeal as these things always will. I'm not against the idea of creating jobs or having something that gives value to the area that it serves. My thought is that its only going to put strain on the lesuire services offered by the council and the other gyms in the area and overall may force the council to close these services and the other businesses to reduce thier numbers of staff, so it'd be like robbing peter to pay paul. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Port0214 says...

150 people to sell dappers! and the viability and vitality of the city centre.

A savage knockabout farce without end brilliant!!!!!
150 people to sell dappers! and the viability and vitality of the city centre. A savage knockabout farce without end brilliant!!!!! Port0214
  • Score: 5

8:51am Sun 9 Mar 14

amandadavies8 says...

I thought they were opening a ikea in there ....obviously must be wrong...bring the range or something like that back over there...
I thought they were opening a ikea in there ....obviously must be wrong...bring the range or something like that back over there... amandadavies8
  • Score: 2

9:11am Sun 9 Mar 14

Leepod says...

We don't need that type outlet of that size over there, it's non beneficial. As for SportsDirect touting they be creating 150 jobs that's laughable, especially when nearly all will be zero hour contracts. Glad NCC kicked them into touch......
We don't need that type outlet of that size over there, it's non beneficial. As for SportsDirect touting they be creating 150 jobs that's laughable, especially when nearly all will be zero hour contracts. Glad NCC kicked them into touch...... Leepod
  • Score: 2

10:56am Sun 9 Mar 14

Jack Land says...

Great, just what we need, another chav uniform store
Great, just what we need, another chav uniform store Jack Land
  • Score: 3

9:01am Mon 10 Mar 14

fieldsof fields says...

Hmm, seems like they're shutting something after the thingy has bolted. Idiots.
Hmm, seems like they're shutting something after the thingy has bolted. Idiots. fieldsof fields
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

Mike0408 wrote:
If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films.

But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out.
No interest in bowling now. Most are closing down
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: If there is not a plan in place to build a bowling centre in the city centre redevelopment, then they should definitely turn it back in to a bowling centre. I think a bowling centre would make more money than sportdirect. Since it is right next to the cinema, it would be great to have a nice game of bowling after the cinema, especially for those who have the cineworld passes to watch unlimited films. But only problem with making in to a bowling centre again would be the lack of parking, the carpark it has now is usually full with by the cinema especially when a new film has come out.[/p][/quote]No interest in bowling now. Most are closing down Bobevans
  • Score: 2

8:37pm Mon 10 Mar 14

foxy3rd says...

I had heard that Ikea were after the site, that would have been ok.
I had heard that Ikea were after the site, that would have been ok. foxy3rd
  • Score: -2

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