Union's legal threat over pay at Newport steelworks

South Wales Argus: PAY ROW: Newport firm Mir Steel PAY ROW: Newport firm Mir Steel

A STEELWORKS boss has said wages at a troubled Newport firm will be paid this morning after a union said it was considering legal action over unpaid wages.

The Community Trade Union claimed around 150 workers at Mir Steel hadn’t received their weekly wages for three weeks, until one week’s wages were paid on Tuesday.

But the company says wages will be up to date this morning.

Around 140 workers at the plant were laid off on 50 per cent pay after the company produced nothing since last summer.

Steelworkers also recently received bad news at the Tata Steel-owned Orb Electrical Steels, which announced a possible 120 redundancies.

Steve McCool, national officer for the Community Trade Union which represents workers at the company, said: “It’s a disgrace that Mir Steel workers have not been fully paid.

“We have been in constant dialogue with the company to try and do everything to resolve the situation amicably and to ensure that our members get their money.

“However, the continuing failure of Mir Steel to pay Community’s members what they are legally owed has left us with no option but to instruct our lawyers to prepare legal proceedings.”

He said the agents for the owners, Liberty Commodities, have made “plenty of positive public statements about the potential of Mir Steel” and their plans for investment and modernisation.

“These words are ringing hollow in the ears of Community’s members,” he said.

“Liberty Commodities should come clean about what is going on at Mir Steel – they need to open up and, more importantly, they need to pay up.”

However Mir Steel director Haydn Swindenbank said that wages will be up to date by Wednesday morning.

International steel and minerals group Liberty Commodities took over the Mir Steel plant last year on behalf of a consortium of Dubai-based Indian investors.

It had previously been owned by billionaire industrialist Vadim Varshavsky who took over the Newport site after Alphasteel went into administration on December 20, 2007.

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12:29pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Good write up but its now noon and still no pay, yet all staff were paid up but works grade only had 1 weeks pay on tuesday, absolutely disgusting
Good write up but its now noon and still no pay, yet all staff were paid up but works grade only had 1 weeks pay on tuesday, absolutely disgusting madman 1
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12:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

BobEvams2014 says...

They should be grateful to have jobs, let alone be paid.
They should be grateful to have jobs, let alone be paid. BobEvams2014
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1:04pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Are you real bob? Were trying to feed our families at least if we were made reduntant then we can get some support but at the moment we cant get a thing! Think before u comment! idiot
Are you real bob? Were trying to feed our families at least if we were made reduntant then we can get some support but at the moment we cant get a thing! Think before u comment! idiot madman 1
  • Score: 4

1:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Jinxey says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
They should be grateful to have jobs, let alone be paid.
I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if you were working for free while needing to pay for a mortgage, household bills and food for your family.
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: They should be grateful to have jobs, let alone be paid.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if you were working for free while needing to pay for a mortgage, household bills and food for your family. Jinxey
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1:17pm Wed 12 Mar 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Research has shown, and a report produced stating that whenever unproductive employees , especially those in Wales, complain about minor things like ' not being paid' the standard management and public responses are:
A) Lucky to have Job
B) I'm sure unemployed person would jump at your Job
C) Both

I'm just responding in the way you would expect from majority of contributors to this board.

I dare say as one contributor would say you are still 'scrounging benefits' of some sort, so you cant be that badly off .
Research has shown, and a report produced stating that whenever unproductive employees , especially those in Wales, complain about minor things like ' not being paid' the standard management and public responses are: A) Lucky to have Job B) I'm sure unemployed person would jump at your Job C) Both I'm just responding in the way you would expect from majority of contributors to this board. I dare say as one contributor would say you are still 'scrounging benefits' of some sort, so you cant be that badly off . BobEvams2014
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1:25pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

And just to clarify i am not claiming a single thing, would love to know who u really r
And just to clarify i am not claiming a single thing, would love to know who u really r madman 1
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2:10pm Wed 12 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

dont panic madman, bobevaRns is a spoof account parodying another user.
dont panic madman, bobevaRns is a spoof account parodying another user. whatintheworld
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2:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Haha yeah just a keyboard warrior
Haha yeah just a keyboard warrior madman 1
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5:56pm Wed 12 Mar 14

no justice says...

Hang on lets look at the full picture here , i would love to have had a job which i go to for 12 months and get full pay for sleeping , Playing cards , dvds and nothing to do ? i think if i was there i would have saved some of the last years pay of £22000.00 knowing the place is having problems and would be more than happy to be one of the fortunate few.(sigh if only) shows the mentality no wonder the place has problems.Think the company have done well for 12 months money for nothing you cannot make that up. Can i have a job there please.?
Hang on lets look at the full picture here , i would love to have had a job which i go to for 12 months and get full pay for sleeping , Playing cards , dvds and nothing to do ? i think if i was there i would have saved some of the last years pay of £22000.00 knowing the place is having problems and would be more than happy to be one of the fortunate few.(sigh if only) shows the mentality no wonder the place has problems.Think the company have done well for 12 months money for nothing you cannot make that up. Can i have a job there please.? no justice
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6:22pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

How would u know all that no justice? So u r justifying the fact that they have left families without a wage coming in, its not a problem if we actually get paid, and as 4 doing nothing for 12 months we have had plenty to do, just because we have not produced doesnt mean we've just been sat down for the whole year, so yeah lets look at the bigger picture u r a ****
How would u know all that no justice? So u r justifying the fact that they have left families without a wage coming in, its not a problem if we actually get paid, and as 4 doing nothing for 12 months we have had plenty to do, just because we have not produced doesnt mean we've just been sat down for the whole year, so yeah lets look at the bigger picture u r a **** madman 1
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6:25pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

And where do u get the £22000 from u seem to know a lot about the works maybe u do/did work there
And where do u get the £22000 from u seem to know a lot about the works maybe u do/did work there madman 1
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6:28pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Oe maybe u r the gutless bobevams under yet another false id?
Oe maybe u r the gutless bobevams under yet another false id? madman 1
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7:01pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Taxed40 says...

Bob & No Justice

As you both work for the love and not for the wages I'm sure that the 140 MIR Steel employees that are without wages would find your contributions most helpful towards their bills.

I have never heard such rubbish and negative comments. Companies would have positive employees if they got paid.
Bob & No Justice As you both work for the love and not for the wages I'm sure that the 140 MIR Steel employees that are without wages would find your contributions most helpful towards their bills. I have never heard such rubbish and negative comments. Companies would have positive employees if they got paid. Taxed40
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7:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Mr Angry says...

madman 1 wrote:
Oe maybe u r the gutless bobevams under yet another false id?
If you look into previous threads, you will know that the BobEvams,2014 is a spoof account taking the mick out of one the more unpleasant extreme right wing posters in a satirical attempt to make the original Bob look an idiot.

I would hazzard a guess the poster was getting at right wing Daily Mail type posters , not you
[quote][p][bold]madman 1[/bold] wrote: Oe maybe u r the gutless bobevams under yet another false id?[/p][/quote]If you look into previous threads, you will know that the BobEvams,2014 is a spoof account taking the mick out of one the more unpleasant extreme right wing posters in a satirical attempt to make the original Bob look an idiot. I would hazzard a guess the poster was getting at right wing Daily Mail type posters , not you Mr Angry
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7:16pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Jammerman says...

Look at all the trolls coming out on this post...i bet they're one of the managers! Not our fault production hasn't resumed we've still been going in and doing what we've been asked to do even when we haven't been paid for weeks on end and lied to and falsely promised our wages and had our pensions messed with leaving all of us majorly out of pocket. As for 22k a year you're having a laugh...the majority of us have been on short time and reduced hours and reduced shift allowance etc JUST TO HELP THE COMPANY OUT. Seems it's all give from the workforce and all take from the management! There comes a point when enough is enough we've been treated like mugs and **** on constantly.
Look at all the trolls coming out on this post...i bet they're one of the managers! Not our fault production hasn't resumed we've still been going in and doing what we've been asked to do even when we haven't been paid for weeks on end and lied to and falsely promised our wages and had our pensions messed with leaving all of us majorly out of pocket. As for 22k a year you're having a laugh...the majority of us have been on short time and reduced hours and reduced shift allowance etc JUST TO HELP THE COMPANY OUT. Seems it's all give from the workforce and all take from the management! There comes a point when enough is enough we've been treated like mugs and **** on constantly. Jammerman
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7:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose
Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose madman 1
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7:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Jammerman wrote:
Look at all the trolls coming out on this post...i bet they're one of the managers! Not our fault production hasn't resumed we've still been going in and doing what we've been asked to do even when we haven't been paid for weeks on end and lied to and falsely promised our wages and had our pensions messed with leaving all of us majorly out of pocket. As for 22k a year you're having a laugh...the majority of us have been on short time and reduced hours and reduced shift allowance etc JUST TO HELP THE COMPANY OUT. Seems it's all give from the workforce and all take from the management! There comes a point when enough is enough we've been treated like mugs and **** on constantly.
Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there
[quote][p][bold]Jammerman[/bold] wrote: Look at all the trolls coming out on this post...i bet they're one of the managers! Not our fault production hasn't resumed we've still been going in and doing what we've been asked to do even when we haven't been paid for weeks on end and lied to and falsely promised our wages and had our pensions messed with leaving all of us majorly out of pocket. As for 22k a year you're having a laugh...the majority of us have been on short time and reduced hours and reduced shift allowance etc JUST TO HELP THE COMPANY OUT. Seems it's all give from the workforce and all take from the management! There comes a point when enough is enough we've been treated like mugs and **** on constantly.[/p][/quote]Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there madman 1
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7:29pm Wed 12 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

madman 1 wrote:
Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose
Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there! maybe c u bk over there in 3 months to watch a dvd or play cards lol trolls r the worst!
[quote][p][bold]madman 1[/bold] wrote: Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose[/p][/quote]Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there! maybe c u bk over there in 3 months to watch a dvd or play cards lol trolls r the worst! madman 1
  • Score: 1

7:35pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Jammerman says...

madman 1 wrote:
madman 1 wrote:
Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose
Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there! maybe c u bk over there in 3 months to watch a dvd or play cards lol trolls r the worst!
Yeah maybe we can sit back and play cards with a dvd on and think of ways to spend our free 22k a year whilst we do nothing! Haha...
[quote][p][bold]madman 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madman 1[/bold] wrote: Well if thats what hes up to then hes targeting over a hundred men who r having problems paying eveeyday bills, and if he feels that strongly about it why not post his real identification because i would like to put my personal point of view straight across his nose[/p][/quote]Jammerman u hit the nail on the head there! maybe c u bk over there in 3 months to watch a dvd or play cards lol trolls r the worst![/p][/quote]Yeah maybe we can sit back and play cards with a dvd on and think of ways to spend our free 22k a year whilst we do nothing! Haha... Jammerman
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11:19am Thu 13 Mar 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Firstly allow me to explain myself.

I am indeed a 'spoof' account. Those of you who frequent these boards know that there are a few unsavory characters with unsavory right wing views who dominate these boards, anyone who dissagrees, or even supports Newport City Councilin any way, is classed as a lazy benefit scrounging labour voter who doesn't know any better.

One of these UKIP supporting xhenaphobic nutjobs is a poster Bob Evans ( please note I am Bob EVAMS) , who is anti Welsh , anti Wag anti Trade Union, anti Minimum Wage , anti Newport Council , anti just about everything, who quite frankly gets excited about job losses (I kid you not).

My style parodies his, as I belive satire if used properly can be very effective. On this occasionit seemsI've missed the target and I apologise unreservedly for any upset I've caused the workers who havent been paid,please belive me - my target was not you.

For the record I'm a Trade Unionist myself, and I'm positioned to the Left of the late great Bob Crow, I belive you have been very shabbily treated and wish you good luck in you endevours.

In future when see or read my posts please do not take them seriously, I'm taking the rise out of someone who really deserves it.
Firstly allow me to explain myself. I am indeed a 'spoof' account. Those of you who frequent these boards know that there are a few unsavory characters with unsavory right wing views who dominate these boards, anyone who dissagrees, or even supports Newport City Councilin any way, is classed as a lazy benefit scrounging labour voter who doesn't know any better. One of these UKIP supporting xhenaphobic nutjobs is a poster Bob Evans ( please note I am Bob EVAMS) , who is anti Welsh , anti Wag anti Trade Union, anti Minimum Wage , anti Newport Council , anti just about everything, who quite frankly gets excited about job losses (I kid you not). My style parodies his, as I belive satire if used properly can be very effective. On this occasionit seemsI've missed the target and I apologise unreservedly for any upset I've caused the workers who havent been paid,please belive me - my target was not you. For the record I'm a Trade Unionist myself, and I'm positioned to the Left of the late great Bob Crow, I belive you have been very shabbily treated and wish you good luck in you endevours. In future when see or read my posts please do not take them seriously, I'm taking the rise out of someone who really deserves it. BobEvams2014
  • Score: 1

6:16am Fri 14 Mar 14

madman 1 says...

Thanks for the honesty bob, yes it did hit a nerve but the way we have been treated is terrible, we have had our wages all over the place for the last few months and even had our pension deducted from us only to find out that it hasnt been paid, this has been going on for about 6 months with no explanation where the money has gone, there has never been any communication between the workers and the new owners as to what is going on, i personally would of loved your comments to rip into the company we have been very loyal to only to be kept in the dark and constantly messed around, but i do understand what u r getting at having now explained yourself
Thanks for the honesty bob, yes it did hit a nerve but the way we have been treated is terrible, we have had our wages all over the place for the last few months and even had our pension deducted from us only to find out that it hasnt been paid, this has been going on for about 6 months with no explanation where the money has gone, there has never been any communication between the workers and the new owners as to what is going on, i personally would of loved your comments to rip into the company we have been very loyal to only to be kept in the dark and constantly messed around, but i do understand what u r getting at having now explained yourself madman 1
  • Score: 1

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