Newport landlord's speeding dodge so ‘foolish’

South Wales Argus: Newport landlord's speeding dodge so ‘foolish’ Newport landlord's speeding dodge so ‘foolish’

A NEWPORT businessman caught speeding on Chepstow Road tried to “falsely incriminate” another man but was caught out as a photograph showed him behind the wheel, a court heard.

When John Bristow, 53, received a fixed penalty notice he sent it back claiming Ivars Pilius, a man who once worked for him, had been driving.

But Mr Pilius, who did not know about Bristow’s attempt to pervert the course of justice, was not even in the UK at the time of the offence, Newport Crown Court heard.

Bristow, of Beechwood Crescent, was driving his Audi estate car at 36mph along 30mph Chepstow Road in Newport when the camera picked him up at 11.32am on January 9 last year.

He denied the offence and sent a form back to the Central Ticket Office claiming Ivars Pilius, of York Place, had been driving.

When the authorities tried several times to contact Mr Pilius to confirm this they received no response as Bristow actually owned the York Place address.

Police contacted DVLA and found they had no record of Mr Pilius.

After comparing photographs from the speed camera and from Bristow’s driving licence it became “immediately apparent” that the speeding driver had been Bristow, said Jonathan Bushell, prosecuting.

In a police interview Bristow at first continued to maintain Mr Pilius had been driving, saying he had lent him the car to drive to a garden centre.

He only “realised the game was up” when confronted with the photographic evidence, said Mr Bushell.

“He intended to falsely incriminate Ivars Pilius. There was no agreement and Mr Pilius would have been ultimately prosecuted.”

Bristow is the landlord of 12 properties, as well as owning delivery business Bristow and Sons, pulling in an annual income of £30,000 to £35,000 a year, the court was told.

As he had only six penalty points at the time of the offence, the additional points from the speeding offence last year would not have lost him his licence, the court heard.

Bristow pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice.

Recorder Peter Griffiths QC said the case had caused “an awful lot of wasted police time”.

He said: “What’s coming through loud and clear is that he’s been an absolute fool.”

The court heard Bristow had been experiencing personal problems at the time of the offence.

Sentencing Bristow, Recorder Griffiths QC said: “Testimonials clearly show you as essentially a decent, law abiding man. Unfortunately you committed a very serious offence.”

He imposed a six-month prison sentence, suspended for one year, ordered Bristow to carry out 100 hours of unpaid work and told him he must pay £1,000 in costs and a victim surcharge of £80.

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9:57am Mon 17 Mar 14

kez1968 says...

I bet he escaped a ban too!!!
I bet he escaped a ban too!!! kez1968
  • Score: 14

12:46pm Mon 17 Mar 14

skipbifferty says...

We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!!
We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!! skipbifferty
  • Score: 6

1:46pm Mon 17 Mar 14

gathin says...

Amazing that the Chepstow Rd fixed camera hasn't been necklaced yet.
The same goes for the one on the way into town (A4042) by the old decrepit Sainsburys.
36 in a 30 zone?
Who says these cameras aren't about generating income???
Amazing that the Chepstow Rd fixed camera hasn't been necklaced yet. The same goes for the one on the way into town (A4042) by the old decrepit Sainsburys. 36 in a 30 zone? Who says these cameras aren't about generating income??? gathin
  • Score: -12

1:49pm Mon 17 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

gathin wrote:
Amazing that the Chepstow Rd fixed camera hasn't been necklaced yet. The same goes for the one on the way into town (A4042) by the old decrepit Sainsburys. 36 in a 30 zone? Who says these cameras aren't about generating income???
I know 6 over the limit is only 6... but 30 is 30.
[quote][p][bold]gathin[/bold] wrote: Amazing that the Chepstow Rd fixed camera hasn't been necklaced yet. The same goes for the one on the way into town (A4042) by the old decrepit Sainsburys. 36 in a 30 zone? Who says these cameras aren't about generating income???[/p][/quote]I know 6 over the limit is only 6... but 30 is 30. whatintheworld
  • Score: 14

5:11pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Magor says...

People should not be prosecuted for 6 mph over the limit in a car when an HGV can do 30 on the same road , there is no way it can stop in time compared to a car.
People should not be prosecuted for 6 mph over the limit in a car when an HGV can do 30 on the same road , there is no way it can stop in time compared to a car. Magor
  • Score: 9

6:23pm Mon 17 Mar 14

davidcp says...

Here's a thought
0-10 - warning.
10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is.
30+ - court and points.

Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with.

In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue!
Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue! davidcp
  • Score: 1

6:48pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Non@2014 says...

If you hit a child when driving at:

40mph- you will probably kill the child
30mph- the child has an 80% chance of survival
20mph- the child is likely to survive with minor injuries.

Nuff said....
If you hit a child when driving at: 40mph- you will probably kill the child 30mph- the child has an 80% chance of survival 20mph- the child is likely to survive with minor injuries. Nuff said.... Non@2014
  • Score: 13

7:09pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Robodad says...

davidcp wrote:
Here's a thought
0-10 - warning.
10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is.
30+ - court and points.

Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with.

In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue!
So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David?
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue![/p][/quote]So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David? Robodad
  • Score: 10

10:29pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Interesting he may not of been banned figures from the DVLC reveal motorists keeping their licence some with more than 36pts.
Interesting he may not of been banned figures from the DVLC reveal motorists keeping their licence some with more than 36pts. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 1

7:01am Tue 18 Mar 14

bluebanana says...

skipbifferty wrote:
We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!!
Except in this case it seems, where the criminal was (rightly) prosecuted.

I'm sure the court wouldn't have come down so hard on him, for what should've been a minor speeding offence, had he just admitted it in the first place like most honest people. He lied, so he deserves what he got.
[quote][p][bold]skipbifferty[/bold] wrote: We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!![/p][/quote]Except in this case it seems, where the criminal was (rightly) prosecuted. I'm sure the court wouldn't have come down so hard on him, for what should've been a minor speeding offence, had he just admitted it in the first place like most honest people. He lied, so he deserves what he got. bluebanana
  • Score: 10

7:48am Tue 18 Mar 14

skipbifferty says...

bluebanana wrote:
skipbifferty wrote:
We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!!
Except in this case it seems, where the criminal was (rightly) prosecuted.

I'm sure the court wouldn't have come down so hard on him, for what should've been a minor speeding offence, had he just admitted it in the first place like most honest people. He lied, so he deserves what he got.
He did not get what he deserved, a prison sentence is more appropriate.

He tried too incriminate another man for his own wrong-doings. That too me is worst than the original offence and he should have automatically gone to prison.
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skipbifferty[/bold] wrote: We live in a country that only supports criminals and prosecutes the law abiding. The whole criminal justice system needs to be scraped and staffed by level-headed people who know what is wrong and what is right. It is evident the "Shower" who run it do not!![/p][/quote]Except in this case it seems, where the criminal was (rightly) prosecuted. I'm sure the court wouldn't have come down so hard on him, for what should've been a minor speeding offence, had he just admitted it in the first place like most honest people. He lied, so he deserves what he got.[/p][/quote]He did not get what he deserved, a prison sentence is more appropriate. He tried too incriminate another man for his own wrong-doings. That too me is worst than the original offence and he should have automatically gone to prison. skipbifferty
  • Score: 9

8:08am Tue 18 Mar 14

davidcp says...

Robodad wrote:
davidcp wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue!
So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David?
It would stop people being booked for a moment's inattention. But fair points all round.
[quote][p][bold]Robodad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue![/p][/quote]So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David?[/p][/quote]It would stop people being booked for a moment's inattention. But fair points all round. davidcp
  • Score: 0

8:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

davidcp says...

PS I stick to all speed limits up to the GLF signs, where I may take a little licence occasionally. I'm more concerned about
- idiots who turn left from the right hand lane at a roundabout, and right from the left hand lane (what idiot designed the McDonalds roundabout at Pontypool) - if there's a CLEAR filter/signage, crack on.
-people who drive with their little finger
-phoners - how much more education do you need FGS??
-lane hoggers on motorways in particular - they get on, take the middle lane and switch off for 150 miles.
- the people who think the 2 second gap is 3 feet long at 60 mph
-people who don't indicate at roundabouts - which is most people. You might use up a calorie switching the indicator, so I understand. Or perhaps it's too hard once you pass your test?
- etc etc etc

Highway Code - £1.99 in The Works and an interesting read..........
PS I stick to all speed limits up to the GLF signs, where I may take a little licence occasionally. I'm more concerned about - idiots who turn left from the right hand lane at a roundabout, and right from the left hand lane (what idiot designed the McDonalds roundabout at Pontypool) - if there's a CLEAR filter/signage, crack on. -people who drive with their little finger -phoners - how much more education do you need FGS?? -lane hoggers on motorways in particular - they get on, take the middle lane and switch off for 150 miles. - the people who think the 2 second gap is 3 feet long at 60 mph -people who don't indicate at roundabouts - which is most people. You might use up a calorie switching the indicator, so I understand. Or perhaps it's too hard once you pass your test? - etc etc etc Highway Code - £1.99 in The Works and an interesting read.......... davidcp
  • Score: 5

12:32pm Tue 18 Mar 14

squirrelchez says...

davidcp wrote:
Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue!
If you went on this theory, then a percentage above would be better, rather than a set amount. What you're suggesting would allow you to go 15mph in a 5mph school zone, without the worry of any legal action, whereby 10% instead of 10mph would still only allow you to go 5mph to the nearest round number.
However, I agree with whatintheworld - 1 or 2mph over the limit may only be 1 or 2mph - but the limit is the limit! It's there for a reason - as shown by Non@2014.
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue![/p][/quote]If you went on this theory, then a percentage above would be better, rather than a set amount. What you're suggesting would allow you to go 15mph in a 5mph school zone, without the worry of any legal action, whereby 10% instead of 10mph would still only allow you to go 5mph to the nearest round number. However, I agree with whatintheworld - 1 or 2mph over the limit may only be 1 or 2mph - but the limit is the limit! It's there for a reason - as shown by Non@2014. squirrelchez
  • Score: 0

3:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Robodad says...

davidcp wrote:
Robodad wrote:
davidcp wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue!
So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David?
It would stop people being booked for a moment's inattention. But fair points all round.
Your point about inattention is a fair one, that's why i think we need more average speed enforcement rather than a snap shot in time.
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robodad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: Here's a thought 0-10 - warning. 10-30 - ticket, no points (depending on the actual limit/circumstances - I'm not suggesting 60 in a 30 is ok but 90 on an empty M4 is. 30+ - court and points. Here's the rub - get more coppers on the road instead of those vans hiding and never finding out what type of driver they are dealing with. In Germany you get an on-the-spot cash fine and no points. Funny thing is, people pay up asap. It's the points which cause the issue![/p][/quote]So, assuming your 0-10 means o-10mph over the speed limit, you are basically saying that everyone can drive at 40 in a 30 limit without any repercussions other than a telling off and 60 in a 30 limit will only result in a ticket. Hmm, seems like a bad idea to me. Do you have children or do you drive yourself David?[/p][/quote]It would stop people being booked for a moment's inattention. But fair points all round.[/p][/quote]Your point about inattention is a fair one, that's why i think we need more average speed enforcement rather than a snap shot in time. Robodad
  • Score: 0

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