Plan for 400 homes at Whitehead site in Newport

Plan for 400 homes at Whitehead site in Newport

Launch of affordable housing scheme at the former Whiteheads steel site in Newport L-R David Ward Chief executive of Tai Tirion, Economy Minister Edwina Hart and John Lovell Chairman of Tai Tirion. (4811809)

Economy Minister Edwina Hart at the launch of the affordable housing scheme at the former Whiteheads steel site in Newport (4811822)

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A DERELICT Newport brownfield site which was once home to the Whitehead Steelworks could be set to host hundreds of new affordable homes.

Today, the Welsh Government announced it would lend £7 million to a not-for-profit group planning to build up to 400 homes on the 39 acre site in Pill.

A new primary school has also been proposed there.

Economy minister Edwina Hart said the project would help “transform a brownfield site into a thriving community and provide affordable homes where people want to live, and which are within the financial reach of young families and lower income families.”

Under the terms of the loan at least half of the development would need to be so-called affordable housing, rather than simply sold on the open market.

No planning permission has yet been sought – applications are set to be filed in the next few months and it is hoped the first homes could be built by 2016.

Its been claimed the project could create 1,500 jobs and deliver a £140 million boost to the area.

The loan will be going to Whiteheads Development Company, a subsidiary of not-for-profit organisation Tai Tirion which was itself set up following an initial alliance between Welsh Government and the Principality.

Tai Tirion chief executive David Ward said remedial work would be needed at the site, which closed as a steelworks around 10 years ago.

“Clearly there’s contamination – there’s been a lot of site investigation done over the years. It’s got its challenges but I don’t think its anything that can’t be dealt with,” he said.

Mr Ward said they have looked at initial locations for a primary school on the site, which is required partly because of a shortage of spaces within Pill.

The move was welcomed by Newport council leader Bob Bright who said it is “another excellent boost for the city’s regeneration”.

As well as the Newport development the Welsh Government yesterday announced a £1 million loan for a 260 home site in Parc Eirin, Tonyrefail – also backed by Tai Tirion.

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6:54am Tue 25 Mar 14

Robodad says...

This is the best news i have heard for a long time. Get rid of the waste ground which could easily become a problem area, build homes within walking distance of the city centre and start to rejuvenate Newport.
This is the best news i have heard for a long time. Get rid of the waste ground which could easily become a problem area, build homes within walking distance of the city centre and start to rejuvenate Newport. Robodad
  • Score: 35

7:21am Tue 25 Mar 14

scraptheWAG says...

affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone,
affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone, scraptheWAG
  • Score: -50

9:55am Tue 25 Mar 14

DDDog1 says...

Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from?
Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from? DDDog1
  • Score: 15

10:32am Tue 25 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

DDDog1 wrote:
Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from?
With both sites no consideration has been given to traffic congestion both areas suffer from severe congestion
[quote][p][bold]DDDog1[/bold] wrote: Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from?[/p][/quote]With both sites no consideration has been given to traffic congestion both areas suffer from severe congestion Bobevans
  • Score: 26

10:40am Tue 25 Mar 14

Mike Roland says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone,
So you'd agree that anything that helps the city's regeneration is a good idea, wouldn't you?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone,[/p][/quote]So you'd agree that anything that helps the city's regeneration is a good idea, wouldn't you? Mike Roland
  • Score: 20

11:47am Tue 25 Mar 14

Magor says...

If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses. Magor
  • Score: 11

11:55am Tue 25 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

It makes far more sense to build on brownfield sites within the City if the regeneration of Newport is to be given a chance. Building on the outskirts would encourage the use of out-of-town shopping or, more likely, benefit Cardiff.
It makes far more sense to build on brownfield sites within the City if the regeneration of Newport is to be given a chance. Building on the outskirts would encourage the use of out-of-town shopping or, more likely, benefit Cardiff. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 20

11:56am Tue 25 Mar 14

Mike Roland says...

Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise? Mike Roland
  • Score: 9

12:46pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Severn40 says...

A cautious welcome - but the comments about the loss of employment land are valid. Occasionally, strategic sites have to be retained for employment regardless whether there is greater demand from competing land uses such as residential and retail. A good example is the former Sainsbury's site - which remains undeveloped at present because of groundwater - this is a strategic site close to the city centre and should be earmarked for employment.
A cautious welcome - but the comments about the loss of employment land are valid. Occasionally, strategic sites have to be retained for employment regardless whether there is greater demand from competing land uses such as residential and retail. A good example is the former Sainsbury's site - which remains undeveloped at present because of groundwater - this is a strategic site close to the city centre and should be earmarked for employment. Severn40
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Magor says...

Mike Roland wrote:
Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
Why not, it was industrial land.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise?[/p][/quote]Why not, it was industrial land. Magor
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Tue 25 Mar 14

robrat41 says...

I bet the private landlords who will end up with a lot of these are rubbing their hands with glee.
I bet the private landlords who will end up with a lot of these are rubbing their hands with glee. robrat41
  • Score: 7

2:14pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Crazydad says...

So what happened to the new hospital that was supposed to be built on this land, I guess that has gone out the window but no mention of that in the article.
So what happened to the new hospital that was supposed to be built on this land, I guess that has gone out the window but no mention of that in the article. Crazydad
  • Score: 12

2:41pm Tue 25 Mar 14

smartie40 says...

Here we go again why more houses?? Nobody got any work here, people struggling to get a mortgage, there are no job prospects here, and really speaking they should put the new Hospital on that site with decent parking, only more people more traffic again and a small city Hospital left to deteriate.

A NEW HOSPITAL AND PARKING IS MORE SUITABLE NOT MORE HOUSES!!
Here we go again why more houses?? Nobody got any work here, people struggling to get a mortgage, there are no job prospects here, and really speaking they should put the new Hospital on that site with decent parking, only more people more traffic again and a small city Hospital left to deteriate. A NEW HOSPITAL AND PARKING IS MORE SUITABLE NOT MORE HOUSES!! smartie40
  • Score: 9

3:31pm Tue 25 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

people moan if you build on brownfield sites; people moan if you build on greenfield sites.

can't please anyone really
people moan if you build on brownfield sites; people moan if you build on greenfield sites. can't please anyone really whatintheworld
  • Score: 11

6:00pm Tue 25 Mar 14

cymruamblyth says...

The site in question is currently a car park for the RGH, which I'm sure we all agree has Abysmal parking! So this site is given to more affordable housing when there is loads of empty houses along the SDR which they can't sell!

Not only will it escalate the parking for the current residents just imagine how stressful it will be relatives of seriously ill patients who will probably be forced to walk from Tesco's as there is no parking in this area.. Where will the Staff and Visitors park? Let alone the Residents who are paying for parking permits but can't park outside there homes
The site in question is currently a car park for the RGH, which I'm sure we all agree has Abysmal parking! So this site is given to more affordable housing when there is loads of empty houses along the SDR which they can't sell! Not only will it escalate the parking for the current residents just imagine how stressful it will be relatives of seriously ill patients who will probably be forced to walk from Tesco's as there is no parking in this area.. Where will the Staff and Visitors park? Let alone the Residents who are paying for parking permits but can't park outside there homes cymruamblyth
  • Score: 7

6:07pm Tue 25 Mar 14

blackandamber says...

Where is the employment with wages high enough to afford the rent/mortgage or is the taxpayer going to be buying them. Every former industrial site in Newport is now full of houses where are all the people coming from is there a baby boom going on that we don't know about.
Where is the employment with wages high enough to afford the rent/mortgage or is the taxpayer going to be buying them. Every former industrial site in Newport is now full of houses where are all the people coming from is there a baby boom going on that we don't know about. blackandamber
  • Score: 7

6:07pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

.....using this land for a new hospital was Newport council's want for the proposed critical care that's going to Llanfrechfa.....
as to this development let's hope this includes bring back albeit an improved roundabout in place of the traffic lights on Cardiff Road which have done nothing but cause traffic flow problems......and goes through to Docks Way near the railway over bridge.....
but it'll probably end up with a cheap botch job with the site access coming out on Mendalgief Road....
.....using this land for a new hospital was Newport council's want for the proposed critical care that's going to Llanfrechfa..... as to this development let's hope this includes bring back albeit an improved roundabout in place of the traffic lights on Cardiff Road which have done nothing but cause traffic flow problems......and goes through to Docks Way near the railway over bridge..... but it'll probably end up with a cheap botch job with the site access coming out on Mendalgief Road.... Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 4

6:45pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

Dave on his Soapbox wrote:
.....using this land for a new hospital was Newport council's want for the proposed critical care that's going to Llanfrechfa.....
as to this development let's hope this includes bring back albeit an improved roundabout in place of the traffic lights on Cardiff Road which have done nothing but cause traffic flow problems......and goes through to Docks Way near the railway over bridge.....
but it'll probably end up with a cheap botch job with the site access coming out on Mendalgief Road....
Much of the problem is cars queuing up to get onto the RGH site
Simple solution is to have the main RGH site for staff parking and charge £5 for others to use it. The other car parks would remain free. This would solve most of the problem
[quote][p][bold]Dave on his Soapbox[/bold] wrote: .....using this land for a new hospital was Newport council's want for the proposed critical care that's going to Llanfrechfa..... as to this development let's hope this includes bring back albeit an improved roundabout in place of the traffic lights on Cardiff Road which have done nothing but cause traffic flow problems......and goes through to Docks Way near the railway over bridge..... but it'll probably end up with a cheap botch job with the site access coming out on Mendalgief Road....[/p][/quote]Much of the problem is cars queuing up to get onto the RGH site Simple solution is to have the main RGH site for staff parking and charge £5 for others to use it. The other car parks would remain free. This would solve most of the problem Bobevans
  • Score: -4

8:26pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Alljay says...

Any new road links for all these new houses. How will they all get to the m4 at rush hour ?????
Any new road links for all these new houses. How will they all get to the m4 at rush hour ????? Alljay
  • Score: 1

8:29pm Tue 25 Mar 14

BlaenauGwentConcerned says...

Bobevans wrote:
DDDog1 wrote:
Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from?
With both sites no consideration has been given to traffic congestion both areas suffer from severe congestion
The considerable Alcan site housing plan will certainly heighten traffic on the already rammed Forge road . I'd lke to see a relief road built that could connect Rhiwderin with Rogerstone (possibly linking with Criddles Garage Roundabout). Does anyone think that it's feasible?
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DDDog1[/bold] wrote: Great but as with the old Alcan site and Tredegar golf site when built where's all the extra jobs going to come from?[/p][/quote]With both sites no consideration has been given to traffic congestion both areas suffer from severe congestion[/p][/quote]The considerable Alcan site housing plan will certainly heighten traffic on the already rammed Forge road [between 7:30 & 8:45 each morning]. I'd lke to see a relief road built that could connect Rhiwderin [on Caerphilly Rd] with Rogerstone [on A467] (possibly linking with Criddles Garage Roundabout). Does anyone think that it's feasible? BlaenauGwentConcerned
  • Score: 1

10:01pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Lord coed melyn says...

Magor wrote:
Mike Roland wrote:
Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
Why not, it was industrial land.
I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ?
We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches.
We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ?
The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them.
I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?.
Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way.
By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise?[/p][/quote]Why not, it was industrial land.[/p][/quote]I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ? We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches. We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ? The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them. I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?. Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way. By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE) Lord coed melyn
  • Score: -5

10:16pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

Lord coed melyn wrote:
Magor wrote:
Mike Roland wrote:
Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
Why not, it was industrial land.
I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ?
We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches.
We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ?
The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them.
I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?.
Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way.
By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)
~How is a new Metro to be funded, You are talking of Billions of pounds. It would also operate at a massive lose running to about £500,000 a year
[quote][p][bold]Lord coed melyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise?[/p][/quote]Why not, it was industrial land.[/p][/quote]I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ? We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches. We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ? The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them. I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?. Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way. By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)[/p][/quote]~How is a new Metro to be funded, You are talking of Billions of pounds. It would also operate at a massive lose running to about £500,000 a year Bobevans
  • Score: -3

10:58pm Tue 25 Mar 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone,
Then leave.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: affordable housing all housing is cheap in newport due to the state of the place all it become is a crime zone,[/p][/quote]Then leave. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 4

12:29am Wed 26 Mar 14

Howie' says...

Bobevans wrote:
Lord coed melyn wrote:
Magor wrote:
Mike Roland wrote:
Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
Why not, it was industrial land.
I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ?
We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches.
We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ?
The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them.
I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?.
Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way.
By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)
~How is a new Metro to be funded, You are talking of Billions of pounds. It would also operate at a massive lose running to about £500,000 a year
Ok Bobby boy, wheres your evidence that it would cost £500k a year.........No Bobby you haven't made it up have you? Not again surely! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord coed melyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise?[/p][/quote]Why not, it was industrial land.[/p][/quote]I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ? We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches. We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ? The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them. I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?. Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way. By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)[/p][/quote]~How is a new Metro to be funded, You are talking of Billions of pounds. It would also operate at a massive lose running to about £500,000 a year[/p][/quote]Ok Bobby boy, wheres your evidence that it would cost £500k a year.........No Bobby you haven't made it up have you? Not again surely! ;-) Howie'
  • Score: 1

12:50am Wed 26 Mar 14

Lord coed melyn says...

YES BILLIONS.
But you can raise money if you have the powers, YES we have the resources to raise money in wales, put hydro/generators on the 65 reservoirs under dwi/welsh water control then hydro barrage usk put generators on cardiff bay.
Do the lagoon in swansea. and check where else we can put them.
this would be safer than nuclear energy and there is nothing to clean up.
And we have plenty of the rore material.
by the way some one said we have know factory space forgive me the l.g site that we bought of llanover ests the ones connected to Newbridge developments/constru
ction/demolition.whi
ch Mr hunt and Mr Haig of
where all in it together party paid millions to? YES THERE ALL IN IT TOGETHER ALRIGHT
YES BILLIONS. But you can raise money if you have the powers, YES we have the resources to raise money in wales, put hydro/generators on the 65 reservoirs under dwi/welsh water control then hydro barrage usk put generators on cardiff bay. Do the lagoon in swansea. and check where else we can put them. this would be safer than nuclear energy and there is nothing to clean up. And we have plenty of the rore material. by the way some one said we have know factory space forgive me the l.g site that we bought of llanover ests the ones connected to Newbridge developments/constru ction/demolition.whi ch Mr hunt and Mr Haig of where all in it together party paid millions to? YES THERE ALL IN IT TOGETHER ALRIGHT Lord coed melyn
  • Score: -2

1:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

arjwain says...

PLANT 400 TREES INSTEAD
PLANT 400 TREES INSTEAD arjwain
  • Score: 0

8:52pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Lord coed melyn says...

YES BILLIONS.
5 BILLION MAX FOR 5 FOR NEWPORT,CARDIFF AND SWANSEA.
All the water you can drink and play in and the power to build our economy.
Or go with Hinkley B in wales. Oxford University costs of 16 billion and over by completion. AND WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND US?
And it need to be decommissioned in 80 years,
OR GO hydro and its safe. The raw material going to run out and you can handle it play on it and drink it.
And if it runs out in about in the next couple of thousand years,
THE PEOPLE MIGHT WRITE AT LEAST THEY TRIED ?
Thats good enough for me. you be careful out there
.
YES BILLIONS. 5 BILLION MAX FOR 5 FOR NEWPORT,CARDIFF AND SWANSEA. All the water you can drink and play in and the power to build our economy. Or go with Hinkley B in wales. Oxford University costs of 16 billion and over by completion. AND WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND US? And it need to be decommissioned in 80 years, OR GO hydro and its safe. The raw material going to run out and you can handle it play on it and drink it. And if it runs out in about in the next couple of thousand years, THE PEOPLE MIGHT WRITE AT LEAST THEY TRIED ? Thats good enough for me. you be careful out there . Lord coed melyn
  • Score: 1

9:07am Thu 27 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

arjwain wrote:
PLANT 400 TREES INSTEAD
then those on the housing waiting list can live in them!

its a nice idea. if we didnt have a housing crisis, planting trees on the site would be good!
[quote][p][bold]arjwain[/bold] wrote: PLANT 400 TREES INSTEAD[/p][/quote]then those on the housing waiting list can live in them! its a nice idea. if we didnt have a housing crisis, planting trees on the site would be good! whatintheworld
  • Score: -3

11:17am Thu 27 Mar 14

b to tha iz a! says...

NO MENTION OF THE EXISTING FACTORY THAT STILL REMAINS IN OPERATION ON THIS SITE, CURRENTLY EMPLOYING 60/70 PEOPLE!!!!!! WHY DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN NEWPORT???!!! WE NEED MORE JOBS!!!! How is housing goin to help the regeneration of newport? The city centre is now non existent and any remaining industry soon will be too! So another 60 people out of work and another 400 houses that wont sell afordable or not!!!!!! ALL IN ALL GREAT NEWS!!!!!
NO MENTION OF THE EXISTING FACTORY THAT STILL REMAINS IN OPERATION ON THIS SITE, CURRENTLY EMPLOYING 60/70 PEOPLE!!!!!! WHY DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN NEWPORT???!!! WE NEED MORE JOBS!!!! How is housing goin to help the regeneration of newport? The city centre is now non existent and any remaining industry soon will be too! So another 60 people out of work and another 400 houses that wont sell afordable or not!!!!!! ALL IN ALL GREAT NEWS!!!!! b to tha iz a!
  • Score: 0

11:33am Thu 27 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

b to tha iz a! wrote:
NO MENTION OF THE EXISTING FACTORY THAT STILL REMAINS IN OPERATION ON THIS SITE, CURRENTLY EMPLOYING 60/70 PEOPLE!!!!!! WHY DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN NEWPORT???!!! WE NEED MORE JOBS!!!! How is housing goin to help the regeneration of newport? The city centre is now non existent and any remaining industry soon will be too! So another 60 people out of work and another 400 houses that wont sell afordable or not!!!!!! ALL IN ALL GREAT NEWS!!!!!
we need more houses because there are more people on the waiting list than at any other time. these people cant rent privately because rates are so high.

building houses will help the regeneration of newport by providing jobs, attracting investment and spending.
[quote][p][bold]b to tha iz a![/bold] wrote: NO MENTION OF THE EXISTING FACTORY THAT STILL REMAINS IN OPERATION ON THIS SITE, CURRENTLY EMPLOYING 60/70 PEOPLE!!!!!! WHY DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN NEWPORT???!!! WE NEED MORE JOBS!!!! How is housing goin to help the regeneration of newport? The city centre is now non existent and any remaining industry soon will be too! So another 60 people out of work and another 400 houses that wont sell afordable or not!!!!!! ALL IN ALL GREAT NEWS!!!!![/p][/quote]we need more houses because there are more people on the waiting list than at any other time. these people cant rent privately because rates are so high. building houses will help the regeneration of newport by providing jobs, attracting investment and spending. whatintheworld
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12:05pm Thu 27 Mar 14

b to tha iz a! says...

Ask yourself why they are on the list???!!!
Investment from where???
Spending how??
Building houses only creates tempary work much of which is already spoken for from the contractors (very few being local usually from further afeild)


How ever creating more jobs will help create incestment, spendin and the regeneration of newport!!!!!
Ask yourself why they are on the list???!!! Investment from where??? Spending how?? Building houses only creates tempary work much of which is already spoken for from the contractors (very few being local usually from further afeild) How ever creating more jobs will help create incestment, spendin and the regeneration of newport!!!!! b to tha iz a!
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12:31pm Thu 27 Mar 14

fingers74 says...

no mention of the existing factory and possible job losses. it be another housing estate for immigrants.
no mention of the existing factory and possible job losses. it be another housing estate for immigrants. fingers74
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12:35pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Lord coed melyn wrote:
Magor wrote:
Mike Roland wrote:
Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
A major factory near the center - would that be wise?
Why not, it was industrial land.
I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ?
We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches.
We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ?
The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them.
I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?.
Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way.
By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)
Your standard of English is pretty appalling, considering you have a posh handle.
[quote][p][bold]Lord coed melyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]A major factory near the center - would that be wise?[/p][/quote]Why not, it was industrial land.[/p][/quote]I love it go for it we need houses. We need brown field site used first ? We need a new metro system to get around Newport the vales and the marches. We need to reduce congestion on inner roads in Newport . DON'T look to Newport city council there integrated transport unit don't do trains or the new metro ? The new developments should have the infrastructure to go with them. I Don't think deer park will go ahead ? THE INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT TAKE IT. I told you .Before that was before the deer park development raised its head. But the council knew about that, Thats why the station was rushed through planning and put in wrong place?. Now connect all new site to the metro that is easy when the land is empty in the case of the old works site. It is rail connected and old track beds all the way to old town dock and the newport center planning is the keys and i know its not the citys forte. You could go all the way to the potteries passed the old sainsbury's and risse the river bank on the way. By the way Bell view park was given to newport a the same time as deer park . Mabe good site for hospital extension ? THE FUTURE IS OUT THERE? WHO KNOWS MAYBE WHEN THEY BUILD THE NEW BARRAGE THEY CAN PUT THE MOTORWAY ON TOP AND RUN THE METRO OF THE POWER PROVIDED. (THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE)[/p][/quote]Your standard of English is pretty appalling, considering you have a posh handle. Cymru Am Beth
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1:03pm Thu 27 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

b to tha iz a! wrote:
Ask yourself why they are on the list???!!! Investment from where??? Spending how?? Building houses only creates tempary work much of which is already spoken for from the contractors (very few being local usually from further afeild) How ever creating more jobs will help create incestment, spendin and the regeneration of newport!!!!!
theyre on the list because they cant afford private rents and there are no social homes for them to go to, its not hard mate. have you ever been on the housing waiting list? i have. those people are not there for fun...

spending and investment will firstly come from construction (although you are right in that this will be temporary). then theres the fact the builders will have to eat and drink somewhere - this brings money in for local shops/cafes. theres also the people who will move in to these homes. they will need groceries, cars and services.
[quote][p][bold]b to tha iz a![/bold] wrote: Ask yourself why they are on the list???!!! Investment from where??? Spending how?? Building houses only creates tempary work much of which is already spoken for from the contractors (very few being local usually from further afeild) How ever creating more jobs will help create incestment, spendin and the regeneration of newport!!!!![/p][/quote]theyre on the list because they cant afford private rents and there are no social homes for them to go to, its not hard mate. have you ever been on the housing waiting list? i have. those people are not there for fun... spending and investment will firstly come from construction (although you are right in that this will be temporary). then theres the fact the builders will have to eat and drink somewhere - this brings money in for local shops/cafes. theres also the people who will move in to these homes. they will need groceries, cars and services. whatintheworld
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1:23pm Thu 27 Mar 14

b to tha iz a! says...

Permanent jobs that is! We should be looking at preserving what little industry we have left to begin with, then looking at sustaining it and possible growth as we need a variaty of jobs for the people of newport. Long term the hospital proposal was a far better option, . If the hospital had gone ahead not only would it have created the temp jobs the housing will create but a great deal of permant jobs would also have been created once the facility was fully operational. Helping people afford housing, creating investment and spending within the so called city!!!!
Permanent jobs that is! We should be looking at preserving what little industry we have left to begin with, then looking at sustaining it and possible growth as we need a variaty of jobs for the people of newport. Long term the hospital proposal was a far better option, . If the hospital had gone ahead not only would it have created the temp jobs the housing will create but a great deal of permant jobs would also have been created once the facility was fully operational. Helping people afford housing, creating investment and spending within the so called city!!!! b to tha iz a!
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1:35pm Thu 27 Mar 14

b to tha iz a! says...

No I have never been on the housing list. But at this rate I soon will be as my skill sets are fast dyin out in this country!!! These people who are on the list are already here in newport hence they are on the list!!!! So they already buy groceries ect ect here in newport so unless they are likely to double there shopping list as they have a house, where does this spending actually come from??! Housing is not the answer!!!! Manufacturing and trading is!!!!
No I have never been on the housing list. But at this rate I soon will be as my skill sets are fast dyin out in this country!!! These people who are on the list are already here in newport hence they are on the list!!!! So they already buy groceries ect ect here in newport so unless they are likely to double there shopping list as they have a house, where does this spending actually come from??! Housing is not the answer!!!! Manufacturing and trading is!!!! b to tha iz a!
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12:52pm Fri 28 Mar 14

cymruamblyth says...

whatintheworld wrote:
people moan if you build on brownfield sites; people moan if you build on greenfield sites.

can't please anyone really
Mate if you had a brain you'd be dangerous Mate

People here complain they don't want more houses then you post and rant nonsense without breathing until it became hilarious to read... Mate!!! But you just seems so nervous, genuinely affected by people's comments here, and your so unwillingness to debate or listen to others opinions you come across as obnoxious, cantankerous and act like a hormonal teenage girl

Stop calling everybody Mate all the time, MATE, it's just cringe worthy..
[quote][p][bold]whatintheworld[/bold] wrote: people moan if you build on brownfield sites; people moan if you build on greenfield sites. can't please anyone really[/p][/quote]Mate if you had a brain you'd be dangerous Mate People here complain they don't want more houses then you post and rant nonsense without breathing until it became hilarious to read... Mate!!! But you just seems so nervous, genuinely affected by people's comments here, and your so unwillingness to debate or listen to others opinions you come across as obnoxious, cantankerous and act like a hormonal teenage girl Stop calling everybody Mate all the time, MATE, it's just cringe worthy.. cymruamblyth
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1:14pm Fri 28 Mar 14

cymruamblyth says...

Brilliant plan close the Hospital car park and stick some social housing in a already gridlocked road with no parking.. Brilliant work Sherlock..

Could somebody explain to me how closing the Hospital Car park and building Social Housing is benefiting the area?

Could they also explain where all the staff and visitors are going to park when the car park is closed?

Lastly maybe What and his ilk could call on the Residents of St Woolos and the surrounding area and tell them there being unreasonable for paying for parking permit and expecting to park outside there houses.. That is just not cricket
Brilliant plan close the Hospital car park and stick some social housing in a already gridlocked road with no parking.. Brilliant work Sherlock.. Could somebody explain to me how closing the Hospital Car park and building Social Housing is benefiting the area? Could they also explain where all the staff and visitors are going to park when the car park is closed? Lastly maybe What and his ilk could call on the Residents of St Woolos and the surrounding area and tell them there being unreasonable for paying for parking permit and expecting to park outside there houses.. That is just not cricket cymruamblyth
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1:27pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Balder says...

Magor wrote:
If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.
I wouldn't worry, no major factory would come to Newport at the moment with the M4 being the way it is, they'd never get their goods out.
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: If a major factory wanted to come to Newport there will be no land left,use this type of land for industry not houses.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't worry, no major factory would come to Newport at the moment with the M4 being the way it is, they'd never get their goods out. Balder
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10:13pm Fri 28 Mar 14

JanJenkins says...

The Affordable housing will be bought as usual by Speculators, The rent will be paid by Housing Benefit, and still nobody will have a job
. The Argus makes a big deal over 150 telesales jobs coming to Newport on their hording's and the 100s of ,job losses due to shops closing, Council cuts, Factories closing,ect. are found on the bottom of page 5.
The Affordable housing will be bought as usual by Speculators, The rent will be paid by Housing Benefit, and still nobody will have a job . The Argus makes a big deal over 150 telesales jobs coming to Newport on their hording's and the 100s of ,job losses due to shops closing, Council cuts, Factories closing,ect. are found on the bottom of page 5. JanJenkins
  • Score: 2

11:14pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Mwy Eira says...

And where exactly is the money going to come from for a new school ? Bob Poole, James Harris and the education department having been telling the parents of Duffryn High School and the parents of children attending Welsh medium schools that live in the West of the city that there is no money for new schools (and consequently stuck all the kids going to Bro Teyrnon on a bus to the old Brynglas Primary school). If there are no places in Pill then stick them on a bus to where there are surplus places. What is good for one is surely good for another. There were parents walking from Pill to go to Bro Teyrnon when it was in Maindee. They had to walk over George Street Bridge as they lived within two miles and didn't get free transport. If there are surplus places in other schools they should be sending them there end of story and stop pandering to parents who want a school on their doorstep.
And where exactly is the money going to come from for a new school ? Bob Poole, James Harris and the education department having been telling the parents of Duffryn High School and the parents of children attending Welsh medium schools that live in the West of the city that there is no money for new schools (and consequently stuck all the kids going to Bro Teyrnon on a bus to the old Brynglas Primary school). If there are no places in Pill then stick them on a bus to where there are surplus places. What is good for one is surely good for another. There were parents walking from Pill to go to Bro Teyrnon when it was in Maindee. They had to walk over George Street Bridge as they lived within two miles and didn't get free transport. If there are surplus places in other schools they should be sending them there end of story and stop pandering to parents who want a school on their doorstep. Mwy Eira
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