Chancellor George Osborne says the Welsh Government should start the Newport M4 relief road now

South Wales Argus: Welsh Government should start M4 build now - Osborne Welsh Government should start M4 build now - Osborne

THE Welsh Government could get on and build the £1 billion M4 relief road immediately, George Osborne said today.

But one environmental campaigner said that was impossible when the Welsh Government hadn’t yet made a decision on last year’s consultation.

The Chancellor’s comments come as south east Wales continues to wait for the results of a Welsh Government consultation into building the M4 relief road which ended last year.

A decision on that work isn’t expected until the summer.

Mr Osborne was asked on the BBC if it was his view that the Welsh Government could start to build the new M4 immediately.

He said: “Yes, that’s my view. I spent the night in Cardiff but yesterday clearly on the M4 there was your usual traffic problems.

“It’s one of the bottlenecks for the entire United Kingdom... not dealt with for years and years.”

The UK Government has said that officials in Cardiff will be able to use existing borrowing powers to fund the project. The chancellor said: “Why wait for a vital improvement that will support jobs in the area.”

Despite strong support for the project from the CBI and several Newport politicians, many concerns have been raised about whether the Welsh Government would be able to afford the road and its environmental impact.

The Gwent Wildlife Trust and Friends of the Earth Cymru have also threatened potential legal action.

Friend’s of the Earth Cymru’s Gareth Clubb said it was “absolutely incorrect” that work could start immediately: “It’s impossible for work to start before a decision has been made.”

Transport minister Edwina Hart has said she’s going to make a decision in the summer, Mr Clubb said, adding that the group’s legal threat against the project is still outstanding.

“We are waiting to see if the Welsh Government has taken into account all options other than building an M4 to the south of Newport,” he said.

Conservative Newport councillor Matthew Evans, opposition leader, said he was “tired of speaking to the media about when there was going to be progress” on the project.

“This is vital for the economy of south east Wales,” he said.

Lindsay Whittle, Plaid Cymru AM for South Wales East, said building the new M4 was “not the best answer for South East Wales” and that the cheaper and less environmentally damaging alternative is to improve the existing A48.

William Graham AM, Shadow Minister for Business, said the M4 is creaking under the weight of daily congestion: “Sadly, Welsh Labour Ministers sat on their hands during the years of plenty when they had the funds to invest in infrastructure.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson said: “We are currently considering responses to the consultation and an announcement is due in the summer.”

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3:38pm Tue 25 Mar 14

robertce says...

WAG need to pull their fingers out and get on with it, or the recovery in Wales will be short lived as investment goes elsewhere.
WAG need to pull their fingers out and get on with it, or the recovery in Wales will be short lived as investment goes elsewhere. robertce
  • Score: 8

4:18pm Tue 25 Mar 14

theviking666 says...

William Graham AM, Shadow Minister for Business, said the M4 is creaking under the weight of daily congestion: “Sadly, Welsh Labour Ministers sat on their hands during the years of plenty when they had the funds to invest in infrastructure.” no wasted the money on vanity projects and new civil servant buildings.
William Graham AM, Shadow Minister for Business, said the M4 is creaking under the weight of daily congestion: “Sadly, Welsh Labour Ministers sat on their hands during the years of plenty when they had the funds to invest in infrastructure.” no wasted the money on vanity projects and new civil servant buildings. theviking666
  • Score: 9

4:26pm Tue 25 Mar 14

NakedDancer says...

I can understand Gwent Wildlife Trust and Friends of the Earth objecting - they obviously have their own agenda (especially FOTE that object to any development anywhere). However, you really can't understand Plaid Cymru objecting. No-one in their right mind could think upgrading the A48 through residential areas with years of disruption and more wasted money to NOT solve the problem is a good idea. Stop talking - get the M4 relief road built - pleeeeeese.


Please no more talking. Get t buit.
I can understand Gwent Wildlife Trust and Friends of the Earth objecting - they obviously have their own agenda (especially FOTE that object to any development anywhere). However, you really can't understand Plaid Cymru objecting. No-one in their right mind could think upgrading the A48 through residential areas with years of disruption and more wasted money to NOT solve the problem is a good idea. Stop talking - get the M4 relief road built - pleeeeeese. Please no more talking. Get t buit. NakedDancer
  • Score: 11

5:34pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Magor says...

Well he is dead right for once.The wildlife will move elsewhere there is still plenty of space along the Severn that will never be built on.WAG should be given a deadline to start by Whitehall after all it is part of the UK motorway network taking traffic from England and the rest of Europe via the ferries to Ireland.
Well he is dead right for once.The wildlife will move elsewhere there is still plenty of space along the Severn that will never be built on.WAG should be given a deadline to start by Whitehall after all it is part of the UK motorway network taking traffic from England and the rest of Europe via the ferries to Ireland. Magor
  • Score: 6

5:49pm Tue 25 Mar 14

MERoden says...

I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre.

It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments.

Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport.
I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre. It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments. Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport. MERoden
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6:32pm Tue 25 Mar 14

keithbob says...

MERoden wrote:
I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre.

It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments.

Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport.
disagree with this post,the new m4 should be built soley for cardiff traffic and the rest of wales,if it was signposted correctly as cardiff and the west,traffic for newport would be reduced considerably causing less congestion and frequent accidents due to the unfit for purpose brynglas tunnels,built when most familys never owned cars or had just one!.the junction should come off just before magor and go through the much underused docks re
joining the m4 back west of newport around st.mellons.and while our welsh politicians are on the case,perhaps they could try and get the severn bridge tolls abolished or reduced,has to be the most expensive toll bridge in europe if not the world!
[quote][p][bold]MERoden[/bold] wrote: I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre. It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments. Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport.[/p][/quote]disagree with this post,the new m4 should be built soley for cardiff traffic and the rest of wales,if it was signposted correctly as cardiff and the west,traffic for newport would be reduced considerably causing less congestion and frequent accidents due to the unfit for purpose brynglas tunnels,built when most familys never owned cars or had just one!.the junction should come off just before magor and go through the much underused docks re joining the m4 back west of newport around st.mellons.and while our welsh politicians are on the case,perhaps they could try and get the severn bridge tolls abolished or reduced,has to be the most expensive toll bridge in europe if not the world! keithbob
  • Score: 3

6:39pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

keithbob wrote:
MERoden wrote:
I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre.

It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments.

Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport.
disagree with this post,the new m4 should be built soley for cardiff traffic and the rest of wales,if it was signposted correctly as cardiff and the west,traffic for newport would be reduced considerably causing less congestion and frequent accidents due to the unfit for purpose brynglas tunnels,built when most familys never owned cars or had just one!.the junction should come off just before magor and go through the much underused docks re
joining the m4 back west of newport around st.mellons.and while our welsh politicians are on the case,perhaps they could try and get the severn bridge tolls abolished or reduced,has to be the most expensive toll bridge in europe if not the world!
There should be one junction for Newport. The big problem with the existing section of M4 is the crazy number of junctions
[quote][p][bold]keithbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MERoden[/bold] wrote: I agree with a new M4 Relief Road, but there has been no information on where the new junctions are going to be. We need at least two new junctions, preferably three. One the east side of Newport, and one the West side of Newport. We could also have a Central Newport junction that connected the new motorway into the city centre, just like Bristol has the M32 motorway that goes right into the city centre. It is no good having a new motorway with no junctions off it. The new motorway MUST be connected into the existing road network. What we DO NOT want is a new motorway with no junctions off it that will result in everybody completely by-passing Newport. That would be a disaster for Newport, particularly at a time when Newport is starting to improve with the city centre re-developments going well, and plenty of new housing developments. Therefore, I am all for a new motorway as long as there will be junctions off it into the existing road network in Newport.[/p][/quote]disagree with this post,the new m4 should be built soley for cardiff traffic and the rest of wales,if it was signposted correctly as cardiff and the west,traffic for newport would be reduced considerably causing less congestion and frequent accidents due to the unfit for purpose brynglas tunnels,built when most familys never owned cars or had just one!.the junction should come off just before magor and go through the much underused docks re joining the m4 back west of newport around st.mellons.and while our welsh politicians are on the case,perhaps they could try and get the severn bridge tolls abolished or reduced,has to be the most expensive toll bridge in europe if not the world![/p][/quote]There should be one junction for Newport. The big problem with the existing section of M4 is the crazy number of junctions Bobevans
  • Score: 0

6:43pm Tue 25 Mar 14

varteg1 says...

It may seem a bit of common sense actually emanating from the notorious towel folder, however, why should Wales chuck multi millions onto a pot that is already bursting to almost breaking point with the BILLIONS we road users pay into it every year.
Let him open that purse and give us back some of what we have p[aid for the use of the roads over the last five or so decades.

Not to forget it's not just road tax we cough up for, but also fuel and car taxes, added to which we must put VAT,m which is actually charged on that tax, in effect doing something totally immoral, paying tax to be taxed.

If Osborne thinks we need that new road, let the State pay for it out of the almost obscene account that we the road user has been filling to overflowing since it first imposed a tax( and the tax on tax) to use the road system.
As Chancellor it is, or should b,e in his power to get the Treasury to meet the costs, it will still be quids in even if the new road cost a couple of billion.
It may seem a bit of common sense actually emanating from the notorious towel folder, however, why should Wales chuck multi millions onto a pot that is already bursting to almost breaking point with the BILLIONS we road users pay into it every year. Let him open that purse and give us back some of what we have p[aid for the use of the roads over the last five or so decades. Not to forget it's not just road tax we cough up for, but also fuel and car taxes, added to which we must put VAT,m which is actually charged on that tax, in effect doing something totally immoral, paying tax to be taxed. If Osborne thinks we need that new road, let the State pay for it out of the almost obscene account that we the road user has been filling to overflowing since it first imposed a tax( and the tax on tax) to use the road system. As Chancellor it is, or should b,e in his power to get the Treasury to meet the costs, it will still be quids in even if the new road cost a couple of billion. varteg1
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

robertce wrote:
WAG need to pull their fingers out and get on with it, or the recovery in Wales will be short lived as investment goes elsewhere.
WHERE is the Money ? Building new roads over wildlife areas apart, there is still the issue of traders being priced out of using the Bridges, and compulsory purchase of housing in Newport for wider roads. Did not Cameron and Co just refuse outright to electrify the rail services in Wales ? We're broke, next question ?
[quote][p][bold]robertce[/bold] wrote: WAG need to pull their fingers out and get on with it, or the recovery in Wales will be short lived as investment goes elsewhere.[/p][/quote]WHERE is the Money ? Building new roads over wildlife areas apart, there is still the issue of traders being priced out of using the Bridges, and compulsory purchase of housing in Newport for wider roads. Did not Cameron and Co just refuse outright to electrify the rail services in Wales ? We're broke, next question ? Mervyn James
  • Score: -1

10:03pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Limestonecowboy says...

You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways.
You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 2

9:55am Wed 26 Mar 14

varteg1 says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways.
The State is STILL the taxmaster, calling a regional Assembly, which cannot ever become taxmaster in it's own area, a 'government' is fatuous.

We, did not vote for it, what we voted for can only be accepted if the majority of the electorate actually voted, they did not, and the pathetic result, based on a meagre majority when over a half did not even vote, thereby demonstrating the indifference to the stupid notion of regional control, hardly gave credence or justification for the outcome. Nor did that majority, which in fact represented around one sixth of the electorate, give rise to anything near to a 'government'. what we have is little more than a supersize county council, with far more power to meddle in local affairs than any previous county council ever had, or should ever have.

Either get shot of all local councils, and leave it to the Assembly, or get shot of this overburden which is running wild with what funding Wales gets. WE DO NOT NEED BOTH.
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways.[/p][/quote]The State is STILL the taxmaster, calling a regional Assembly, which cannot ever become taxmaster in it's own area, a 'government' is fatuous. We, did not vote for it, what we voted for can only be accepted if the majority of the electorate actually voted, they did not, and the pathetic result, based on a meagre majority when over a half did not even vote, thereby demonstrating the indifference to the stupid notion of regional control, hardly gave credence or justification for the outcome. Nor did that majority, which in fact represented around one sixth of the electorate, give rise to anything near to a 'government'. what we have is little more than a supersize county council, with far more power to meddle in local affairs than any previous county council ever had, or should ever have. Either get shot of all local councils, and leave it to the Assembly, or get shot of this overburden which is running wild with what funding Wales gets. WE DO NOT NEED BOTH. varteg1
  • Score: 1

10:25am Wed 26 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

varteg1 wrote:
Limestonecowboy wrote:
You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways.
The State is STILL the taxmaster, calling a regional Assembly, which cannot ever become taxmaster in it's own area, a 'government' is fatuous.

We, did not vote for it, what we voted for can only be accepted if the majority of the electorate actually voted, they did not, and the pathetic result, based on a meagre majority when over a half did not even vote, thereby demonstrating the indifference to the stupid notion of regional control, hardly gave credence or justification for the outcome. Nor did that majority, which in fact represented around one sixth of the electorate, give rise to anything near to a 'government'. what we have is little more than a supersize county council, with far more power to meddle in local affairs than any previous county council ever had, or should ever have.

Either get shot of all local councils, and leave it to the Assembly, or get shot of this overburden which is running wild with what funding Wales gets. WE DO NOT NEED BOTH.
Good post.
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: You voted for a WAG therefore you get the WAG you deserve its no good bleating on about the State paying when people voted in their own government. can't have it both ways.[/p][/quote]The State is STILL the taxmaster, calling a regional Assembly, which cannot ever become taxmaster in it's own area, a 'government' is fatuous. We, did not vote for it, what we voted for can only be accepted if the majority of the electorate actually voted, they did not, and the pathetic result, based on a meagre majority when over a half did not even vote, thereby demonstrating the indifference to the stupid notion of regional control, hardly gave credence or justification for the outcome. Nor did that majority, which in fact represented around one sixth of the electorate, give rise to anything near to a 'government'. what we have is little more than a supersize county council, with far more power to meddle in local affairs than any previous county council ever had, or should ever have. Either get shot of all local councils, and leave it to the Assembly, or get shot of this overburden which is running wild with what funding Wales gets. WE DO NOT NEED BOTH.[/p][/quote]Good post. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

If Osbo doesn't have hte most untrustworthy face in modern politics, I'm a monkey's uncle.
If Osbo doesn't have hte most untrustworthy face in modern politics, I'm a monkey's uncle. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 0

7:16pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Limestonecowboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
If Osbo doesn't have hte most untrustworthy face in modern politics, I'm a monkey's uncle.
Yep you probably are!
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: If Osbo doesn't have hte most untrustworthy face in modern politics, I'm a monkey's uncle.[/p][/quote]Yep you probably are! Limestonecowboy
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