Monthly rubbish collection on cards for Torfaen

South Wales Argus: Monthly rubbish collection on cards for Torfaen Monthly rubbish collection on cards for Torfaen

RUBBISH collections in Torfaen could be monthly, if the council goes ahead with one of the options it is looking at to increase recycling and reduce landfill waste.

From 2015/16 recycling targets in Wales will increase from 52% to 58%, with councils fined in the region of £100,000 for every 1% they fall below the line.

Councils must reach recycling rates of 70% by 2025. Torfaen currently recycles 52% of its waste, meaning that if its performance remains at current levels it will face an annual fine of £600,000.

As such, the council is currently investigating three options designed to reduce the amount of waste going to landfill and increase participation in recycling schemes.

The options include maintaining a fortnightly collection with a smaller black wheelie bin, a fortnightly collection of two refuse bags per household, or moving to a monthly collection using the existing 240L black wheelie bin. With all options, allowances will be made for the collection of additional waste at Christmas and New Year, and a dedicated collection for nappies will be available for those who need it. Recycling collections will continue to operate as normal.

The executive member for neighbourhood services, cllr John Cunningham, said: “We have to make reductions in the amount of waste we are sending to landfill and although we have introduced collections for green waste, food and cardboard, recycling rates have only risen by around 9% in the last five years. This is simply not enough and as well as improving our recycling services, as we have done recently with extended plastic collections, like other councils across Wales we are going to have to restrict the amount of residual waste we collect. Our officers have identified three options that will allow us to do this and we will be consulting the public for their views in due course.”

The report will be the subject of a scrutiny committee on April 3 which will determine whether the review process itself has been fair and robust. The committee meeting will be webcast and the report can be viewed on the Torfaen Council website.

The council will then carry out public consultation towards the end of April/beginning of May.

Monmouthshire has moved to restrict residual waste collections and have seen a notable uptake in recycling from 58% to 66% as a result.

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12:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Sometimes says...

This has got to be some kind of joke or early April fool prank, as the bins where I live are already overflowing by the time they are collected and my area has a high rate of recycling.

Councils should start looking at the packaging of the products and not hammering the consumers all the time. Most people recycle, they're limited by what they can recycle and by what the councils will accept. Torfaen do not accept all types of plastic or wax covered cardboard/paper, their food caddy is too small for a typical family as they no longer accept food waste in the green bins.

These actions will increase the already rising levels of fly tipping as reported in the Argus earlier in the year and highlights the lack of vision and thinking that exists within Torfaen Council, perhaps the Councillors and the executive staff should be recycled soon.
This has got to be some kind of joke or early April fool prank, as the bins where I live are already overflowing by the time they are collected and my area has a high rate of recycling. Councils should start looking at the packaging of the products and not hammering the consumers all the time. Most people recycle, they're limited by what they can recycle and by what the councils will accept. Torfaen do not accept all types of plastic or wax covered cardboard/paper, their food caddy is too small for a typical family as they no longer accept food waste in the green bins. These actions will increase the already rising levels of fly tipping as reported in the Argus earlier in the year and highlights the lack of vision and thinking that exists within Torfaen Council, perhaps the Councillors and the executive staff should be recycled soon. Sometimes
  • Score: 60

12:31pm Wed 26 Mar 14

DDDog1 says...

Rubbish idea
Rubbish idea DDDog1
  • Score: 27

12:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

I would be b****y furious if I lived in Torfaen.
Just what do these Councils do for their money?
When you look around, the answer seems to b b****r all.
I would be b****y furious if I lived in Torfaen. Just what do these Councils do for their money? When you look around, the answer seems to b b****r all. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 43

12:45pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

Where do they find these jokers. Still I guess they have to save money so that they can increase their allowances by 20% next year

The really sad thing is people keep voting for these clowns
Where do they find these jokers. Still I guess they have to save money so that they can increase their allowances by 20% next year The really sad thing is people keep voting for these clowns Bobevans
  • Score: 43

1:25pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Auntyg58 says...

Sometimes wrote:
This has got to be some kind of joke or early April fool prank, as the bins where I live are already overflowing by the time they are collected and my area has a high rate of recycling.

Councils should start looking at the packaging of the products and not hammering the consumers all the time. Most people recycle, they're limited by what they can recycle and by what the councils will accept. Torfaen do not accept all types of plastic or wax covered cardboard/paper, their food caddy is too small for a typical family as they no longer accept food waste in the green bins.

These actions will increase the already rising levels of fly tipping as reported in the Argus earlier in the year and highlights the lack of vision and thinking that exists within Torfaen Council, perhaps the Councillors and the executive staff should be recycled soon.
I couldn't agree more. There are only 2 of us in this house and we recycle everything we possibly can and sometimes it is a struggle to get everything in the bins with the lids secured. How families cope with the same size bins I don't understand.

For what they will save on not paying fines they will lose on getting crews to clean up where people have fly tipped.

Not everyone has the means to get additional waste to the depot.
[quote][p][bold]Sometimes[/bold] wrote: This has got to be some kind of joke or early April fool prank, as the bins where I live are already overflowing by the time they are collected and my area has a high rate of recycling. Councils should start looking at the packaging of the products and not hammering the consumers all the time. Most people recycle, they're limited by what they can recycle and by what the councils will accept. Torfaen do not accept all types of plastic or wax covered cardboard/paper, their food caddy is too small for a typical family as they no longer accept food waste in the green bins. These actions will increase the already rising levels of fly tipping as reported in the Argus earlier in the year and highlights the lack of vision and thinking that exists within Torfaen Council, perhaps the Councillors and the executive staff should be recycled soon.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. There are only 2 of us in this house and we recycle everything we possibly can and sometimes it is a struggle to get everything in the bins with the lids secured. How families cope with the same size bins I don't understand. For what they will save on not paying fines they will lose on getting crews to clean up where people have fly tipped. Not everyone has the means to get additional waste to the depot. Auntyg58
  • Score: 40

1:31pm Wed 26 Mar 14

VERY ANGRY MAN says...

Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined.

Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!!
Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined. Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!! VERY ANGRY MAN
  • Score: -43

1:53pm Wed 26 Mar 14

paddyparry says...

All we put into our black bin is non recyclable rubbish. Everything that can be recycled is recycled. We already have a problem with rats in Torfaen - we know this because our cats keep bringing dead ones into the house (these are then put into the black bin - can we recycle dead rats?). I don't see how this will force people to recycle more. Other councils already have the ability to recycle more waste that Torfaen allow us.
All we put into our black bin is non recyclable rubbish. Everything that can be recycled is recycled. We already have a problem with rats in Torfaen - we know this because our cats keep bringing dead ones into the house (these are then put into the black bin - can we recycle dead rats?). I don't see how this will force people to recycle more. Other councils already have the ability to recycle more waste that Torfaen allow us. paddyparry
  • Score: 31

2:28pm Wed 26 Mar 14

BUDDAH WELSH says...

paddyparry wrote:
All we put into our black bin is non recyclable rubbish. Everything that can be recycled is recycled. We already have a problem with rats in Torfaen - we know this because our cats keep bringing dead ones into the house (these are then put into the black bin - can we recycle dead rats?). I don't see how this will force people to recycle more. Other councils already have the ability to recycle more waste that Torfaen allow us.
I don't see why people like Paddy and I should be punished when we recycle everything we possibly can. In our house we have 2 recycle black boxes, our animals eat the scraps if there are any and we have a wheelie bin half full a fortnight. So why don't TCBC do more encouraging instead of preaching to all its residents as I and my family can do no more to help with their figures. So give me a smaller black wheelie bin and sort the residents who don't recycle things but don't make me go to monthly collection as this could lead to problems with more vermin in the area.
[quote][p][bold]paddyparry[/bold] wrote: All we put into our black bin is non recyclable rubbish. Everything that can be recycled is recycled. We already have a problem with rats in Torfaen - we know this because our cats keep bringing dead ones into the house (these are then put into the black bin - can we recycle dead rats?). I don't see how this will force people to recycle more. Other councils already have the ability to recycle more waste that Torfaen allow us.[/p][/quote]I don't see why people like Paddy and I should be punished when we recycle everything we possibly can. In our house we have 2 recycle black boxes, our animals eat the scraps if there are any and we have a wheelie bin half full a fortnight. So why don't TCBC do more encouraging instead of preaching to all its residents as I and my family can do no more to help with their figures. So give me a smaller black wheelie bin and sort the residents who don't recycle things but don't make me go to monthly collection as this could lead to problems with more vermin in the area. BUDDAH WELSH
  • Score: 27

3:14pm Wed 26 Mar 14

merlin the silure says...

dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?
dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine? merlin the silure
  • Score: 37

3:29pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

merlin the silure wrote:
dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?
It's all about money, nothing to do with recycling.
I think that everyone in Torfaen should boycott the Council.
Dump the so called unrecyclable waste on the steps of their HQ.
If they did this in another Country there would be riots in the streets.
What next, a two monthly pick up?
Utterly shambolic.
[quote][p][bold]merlin the silure[/bold] wrote: dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?[/p][/quote]It's all about money, nothing to do with recycling. I think that everyone in Torfaen should boycott the Council. Dump the so called unrecyclable waste on the steps of their HQ. If they did this in another Country there would be riots in the streets. What next, a two monthly pick up? Utterly shambolic. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 37

3:35pm Wed 26 Mar 14

spanner100 says...

What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!.
What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!. spanner100
  • Score: 46

3:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

spanner100 wrote:
What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!.
It's a pity that ratepayers can't get their own waste contract, there are plenty of companies doing this and the sum can then be deducted from the tax.
If that were the case, then they would owe me the whole amount as they only empty my bins and do nothing else.
It seems that every year you pay more and get less.
[quote][p][bold]spanner100[/bold] wrote: What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!.[/p][/quote]It's a pity that ratepayers can't get their own waste contract, there are plenty of companies doing this and the sum can then be deducted from the tax. If that were the case, then they would owe me the whole amount as they only empty my bins and do nothing else. It seems that every year you pay more and get less. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 34

4:06pm Wed 26 Mar 14

theviking666 says...

I have a daft idea, only pick up recycle rubbish, so they will have a 100% so no fine, I hope that the councillors in torfaen don't read this.
I have a daft idea, only pick up recycle rubbish, so they will have a 100% so no fine, I hope that the councillors in torfaen don't read this. theviking666
  • Score: 2

5:46pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

VERY ANGRY MAN wrote:
Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined.

Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!!
Well guess what , a family has far more rubbish then a single person like you
[quote][p][bold]VERY ANGRY MAN[/bold] wrote: Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined. Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!![/p][/quote]Well guess what , a family has far more rubbish then a single person like you Bobevans
  • Score: 19

5:53pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

VERY ANGRY MAN wrote:
Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined.

Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!!
Have you considered that you make yourself look silly? Sure a single person like you might manage with one collection a month although there are health risk involved, A family though cannot manage.
[quote][p][bold]VERY ANGRY MAN[/bold] wrote: Only 52% of residents rubbish is recycled!!! Absolutely disgusting rates. There is no excuse for a much higher rate to be achieved. I regularly recycled 95% of my waste. Generally it is plastic packaging and contaminated food containers which cannot be recycled that I have to dispose of in the general waste. Any residents having recyclable items found in the ordinary rubbish bins should be fined. Someone passed comment on the waste food containers not being large enough!!! The idea is to buy/cook the correct amount of food you need!!![/p][/quote]Have you considered that you make yourself look silly? Sure a single person like you might manage with one collection a month although there are health risk involved, A family though cannot manage. Bobevans
  • Score: 17

5:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

merlin the silure wrote:
dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?
The world health organisation recomends a minimum of a weekly collection for the UK
[quote][p][bold]merlin the silure[/bold] wrote: dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?[/p][/quote]The world health organisation recomends a minimum of a weekly collection for the UK Bobevans
  • Score: 28

5:56pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

spanner100 wrote:
What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!.
WE are seeing just the start of the increase. It takes time for the vermin numbers to build up and we are now starting to see quite serious infestations
[quote][p][bold]spanner100[/bold] wrote: What an absolute disgrace!!!. What the HXXL do we pay well over a £1200.00 Rates for.Just imagine the increase in the Rodent population and as previously mentioned, the stench during the Summer months.Why not cut back on the "EXCESSIVE" allowances paid to Staff and members of the Council. Stop buying executive Chairs etc. etc. Problem is if we vote with our Wallets the Council will only send in the "Strong Arm" Mob !!. Pathetic!!!!.[/p][/quote]WE are seeing just the start of the increase. It takes time for the vermin numbers to build up and we are now starting to see quite serious infestations Bobevans
  • Score: 17

8:05pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Robodad says...

I hope some of the £600,000 they save goes towards the cost of clearing up the extra fly tipping which will happen as a result. Probably no net saving when that additional cost is taken into account.
I hope some of the £600,000 they save goes towards the cost of clearing up the extra fly tipping which will happen as a result. Probably no net saving when that additional cost is taken into account. Robodad
  • Score: 22

8:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

....Iiving in Newport...I've just had one of the new smaller bins....which has cost £80k...to roll out....not to mention all the surplus bins which are apparently going to be used in schools etc.....
While as an 'average' family who recycles as much as we can...having a smaller bin for the fortnightly collections....is generally not a problem.....even with waste which can't...i.e. dog mess and the things having 3 women in the house produce at certain times of the month.... the proposal by Torfaen is simply unhygienic if they go to a monthly collect and/or black bags....
What councils need to do is to enforce their own policy on overfilled or 'top hatted' bins as Newport CBC call it.....regularly people in my road have over flowing bins...but they are always emptied....and you never see any warning notices being attached as their policy for dealing with the real culprits who are the ones that need to recycle more....
As usual we all suffer because it's easier to impose something on us than for the council to do their job.
....Iiving in Newport...I've just had one of the new smaller bins....which has cost £80k...to roll out....not to mention all the surplus bins which are apparently going to be used in schools etc..... While as an 'average' family who recycles as much as we can...having a smaller bin for the fortnightly collections....is generally not a problem.....even with waste which can't...i.e. dog mess and the things having 3 women in the house produce at certain times of the month.... the proposal by Torfaen is simply unhygienic if they go to a monthly collect and/or black bags.... What councils need to do is to enforce their own policy on overfilled or 'top hatted' bins as Newport CBC call it.....regularly people in my road have over flowing bins...but they are always emptied....and you never see any warning notices being attached as their policy for dealing with the real culprits who are the ones that need to recycle more.... As usual we all suffer because it's easier to impose something on us than for the council to do their job. Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 18

9:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Manley says...

All because of arbitrary rules imposed by WAG.
All because of arbitrary rules imposed by WAG. Manley
  • Score: 18

7:06am Thu 27 Mar 14

Woodgnome says...

This is what happens when a Council is out of touch with the residents. That's because nobody votes in local elections so the same old "club" has been's keep getting elected.
This is what happens when a Council is out of touch with the residents. That's because nobody votes in local elections so the same old "club" has been's keep getting elected. Woodgnome
  • Score: 19

8:57am Thu 27 Mar 14

varteg1 says...

Well, as all I see for council service is rubbish collection, maybe I should accept the idea of monthly collection, but that being a half of what we now get, maybe I should just pay a half of the tax I am being charged.
Well, as all I see for council service is rubbish collection, maybe I should accept the idea of monthly collection, but that being a half of what we now get, maybe I should just pay a half of the tax I am being charged. varteg1
  • Score: 20

8:57am Thu 27 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Bobevans wrote:
merlin the silure wrote:
dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?
The world health organisation recomends a minimum of a weekly collection for the UK
In Spain, the rubbish is collected EVERY DAY of the week.
For that service, it costs just 45.euros a year per household.
They provide large recycling bins at every locality also.
If they can do it for that, the state that Spain is in, then why can't they do it here?
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin the silure[/bold] wrote: dear god-MONTHLY-in the (unlikely I know)event of a long hot spell can you imagine?[/p][/quote]The world health organisation recomends a minimum of a weekly collection for the UK[/p][/quote]In Spain, the rubbish is collected EVERY DAY of the week. For that service, it costs just 45.euros a year per household. They provide large recycling bins at every locality also. If they can do it for that, the state that Spain is in, then why can't they do it here? Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 21

9:00am Thu 27 Mar 14

WELSH BUDDAH says...

While as most average families who recycle as much as they can having a smaller bin for the fortnightly collections is generally not a problem even with waste which can't (dog mess). The proposal by Torfaen is simply unhygienic if they go to a monthly collections. They need policies for dealing with the real culprits who are the ones that need to recycle more and not the ones who do recycle religiously. And £600.000 would pay for enforcement officers but then they would have to be out in all winds and weathers and there are plenty of Torfaen residents who would do the job.
While as most average families who recycle as much as they can having a smaller bin for the fortnightly collections is generally not a problem even with waste which can't (dog mess). The proposal by Torfaen is simply unhygienic if they go to a monthly collections. They need policies for dealing with the real culprits who are the ones that need to recycle more and not the ones who do recycle religiously. And £600.000 would pay for enforcement officers but then they would have to be out in all winds and weathers and there are plenty of Torfaen residents who would do the job. WELSH BUDDAH
  • Score: 7

9:05am Thu 27 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

its policies like this one that make people resent recyling. what a stupid idea.
its policies like this one that make people resent recyling. what a stupid idea. whatintheworld
  • Score: 20

11:30am Thu 27 Mar 14

Explainitplease says...

Yet if you live in a flat you get your rubbish collected weekly!
Yes, single people. retired people who generate the least amount of rubbish have a collection every single week.
Go on, work that 1 out.
Yet if you live in a flat you get your rubbish collected weekly! Yes, single people. retired people who generate the least amount of rubbish have a collection every single week. Go on, work that 1 out. Explainitplease
  • Score: 10

12:32pm Thu 27 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

Explainitplease wrote:
Yet if you live in a flat you get your rubbish collected weekly! Yes, single people. retired people who generate the least amount of rubbish have a collection every single week. Go on, work that 1 out.
one weeks worth of rubbish from a block of flats is going to be a lot more than a fortnights worth from a house.
[quote][p][bold]Explainitplease[/bold] wrote: Yet if you live in a flat you get your rubbish collected weekly! Yes, single people. retired people who generate the least amount of rubbish have a collection every single week. Go on, work that 1 out.[/p][/quote]one weeks worth of rubbish from a block of flats is going to be a lot more than a fortnights worth from a house. whatintheworld
  • Score: -1

12:48pm Thu 27 Mar 14

john the jag says...

With all the savings the Council will make I can only assume we will have a council tax reduction when it happens. Perhaps a better way than relying on individuals to recycle why not do it the Spanish way. Everything goes into one bin and goes to a recycling centre to be sorted manually, which could be staffed by the recycling collectors, cardboard collectors and green waste collectors who would no longer be needed. This does not only save on staff time and their bonus but also saves thousands on the need for so many vehicles which in turn also reduces carbon emissions at the same time.
With all the savings the Council will make I can only assume we will have a council tax reduction when it happens. Perhaps a better way than relying on individuals to recycle why not do it the Spanish way. Everything goes into one bin and goes to a recycling centre to be sorted manually, which could be staffed by the recycling collectors, cardboard collectors and green waste collectors who would no longer be needed. This does not only save on staff time and their bonus but also saves thousands on the need for so many vehicles which in turn also reduces carbon emissions at the same time. john the jag
  • Score: 8

1:19pm Thu 27 Mar 14

honestmike says...

if torfaen want to improve its recycling target i think they could start with the officers who came up with this stupid idea
if torfaen want to improve its recycling target i think they could start with the officers who came up with this stupid idea honestmike
  • Score: 10

1:24pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Donnie Valentino says...

We will all have to have a compactor at home soon.
We will all have to have a compactor at home soon. Donnie Valentino
  • Score: 6

3:07pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

Donnie Valentino wrote:
We will all have to have a compactor at home soon.
Perhaps starting with compacting and recycling stupid councillors
[quote][p][bold]Donnie Valentino[/bold] wrote: We will all have to have a compactor at home soon.[/p][/quote]Perhaps starting with compacting and recycling stupid councillors Bobevans
  • Score: 14

6:43pm Thu 27 Mar 14

JanJenkins says...

My Bin is already chewed by Rats, They will eat anything, then the council had the cheek to say they had come from my own home and gave me an enforcement order to dig up my budlia bushes and pampas grass, which we had too. Guess what No Rats or rat nests, found in the garden. But they are still around as my cat is bringing in the corpses. But these council enforcement blokes don't think you get rats in the countryside only in bushes in gardens.. But the Rat population is getting ridiculous around here.
Since the council tip in Little Inn, moved their house waste up a flight of metal stairs I won't use it any longer, its dangerous.
My Bin is already chewed by Rats, They will eat anything, then the council had the cheek to say they had come from my own home and gave me an enforcement order to dig up my budlia bushes and pampas grass, which we had too. Guess what No Rats or rat nests, found in the garden. But they are still around as my cat is bringing in the corpses. But these council enforcement blokes don't think you get rats in the countryside only in bushes in gardens.. But the Rat population is getting ridiculous around here. Since the council tip in Little Inn, moved their house waste up a flight of metal stairs I won't use it any longer, its dangerous. JanJenkins
  • Score: 12

7:31pm Thu 27 Mar 14

bugsy93 says...

You can see the buffoons that Torfaen has to put up with.
Some executives are on a higher salary than the prime minister and our brainwashed Councillors are stuffed to the eyeballs with £20 not to rock the boat and de-rail their gravy train.. All this and we have the most incompetent run Council in Wales.
It's about time the taxpayers in Torfaen withhold their Council tax payments and deposit our rubbish on the Civic Centre.
It's an obvious failure in the management structure in Torfaen for this stupidity in the Council chambers.
A change is well overdue in this Council and about time we see some common sense and logic in the Borough.
You can see the buffoons that Torfaen has to put up with. Some executives are on a higher salary than the prime minister and our brainwashed Councillors are stuffed to the eyeballs with £20 not to rock the boat and de-rail their gravy train.. All this and we have the most incompetent run Council in Wales. It's about time the taxpayers in Torfaen withhold their Council tax payments and deposit our rubbish on the Civic Centre. It's an obvious failure in the management structure in Torfaen for this stupidity in the Council chambers. A change is well overdue in this Council and about time we see some common sense and logic in the Borough. bugsy93
  • Score: 7

8:03pm Thu 27 Mar 14

asylumhouse says...

the reason torfaen want to up the recycling is that they get paid a fortune for selling the recycled plastic and cans, trust me i used to deliver trailers full of baled alluminium cans all the way to skelmersdale by liverpool !!!! another viridor site up there paying thousands for our free recycled cans!!!!

why employ people to sort and recycle when they,ve got us to do it for nothing.
ask some of the torfaen councillors what part of our council tax goes on new heating systems for there houses and all the freebie corporates.
the reason torfaen want to up the recycling is that they get paid a fortune for selling the recycled plastic and cans, trust me i used to deliver trailers full of baled alluminium cans all the way to skelmersdale by liverpool !!!! another viridor site up there paying thousands for our free recycled cans!!!! why employ people to sort and recycle when they,ve got us to do it for nothing. ask some of the torfaen councillors what part of our council tax goes on new heating systems for there houses and all the freebie corporates. asylumhouse
  • Score: 5

11:25pm Thu 27 Mar 14

bugsy93 says...

Remember, it's Torfaen Council that gave planning permission for all those supermarkets that's creating all this packaging that ends up in land fill.
Our milkman once delivered our milk to our doorstep and took away the empties to re-use, We had to pay a deposit on beer, pop bottles and jam jars so they would be returned and used again. We lit our coal fires with newspaper and our waste paper was burnt on the fire. All that was in our bins was ash... Now that's recycling!
Remember, it's Torfaen Council that gave planning permission for all those supermarkets that's creating all this packaging that ends up in land fill. Our milkman once delivered our milk to our doorstep and took away the empties to re-use, We had to pay a deposit on beer, pop bottles and jam jars so they would be returned and used again. We lit our coal fires with newspaper and our waste paper was burnt on the fire. All that was in our bins was ash... Now that's recycling! bugsy93
  • Score: 11

8:05am Fri 28 Mar 14

indy2012 says...

Country lane refuge collection points, coming to a lane near you soon.
J.C. Time for you to pack this councillor lark up, you and your cronies are completely out of touch with Torfaen residents.
Country lane refuge collection points, coming to a lane near you soon. J.C. Time for you to pack this councillor lark up, you and your cronies are completely out of touch with Torfaen residents. indy2012
  • Score: 9

8:40pm Fri 28 Mar 14

irisheyes says...

I refuse to use the tip since they decided we had to negotiate a steel steps to dump our household waste.I recycle everything I can and always (just) manage to close my bin lid for our fortnightly collection.On the one occasion that the lid of my bin was marginally open I had a snotty sticker placed on it threatening to fine if bin lid isn't closed.
The biggest load of rubbish is our Community farm which is gobbling money like there is no tomorrow but the council refuses to either close it or run it at a profit.£400 grand losses per year I believe
I refuse to use the tip since they decided we had to negotiate a steel steps to dump our household waste.I recycle everything I can and always (just) manage to close my bin lid for our fortnightly collection.On the one occasion that the lid of my bin was marginally open I had a snotty sticker placed on it threatening to fine if bin lid isn't closed. The biggest load of rubbish is our Community farm which is gobbling money like there is no tomorrow but the council refuses to either close it or run it at a profit.£400 grand losses per year I believe irisheyes
  • Score: 1

10:41pm Fri 28 Mar 14

JanJenkins says...

From weekly to fortnightly, to monthly rubbish collections, No street lights, even in pedestrian areas between the train station and bus station, Then no buses after 9pm. and shops are closing all over town, and there's no jobs. The Council lorry and van drivers knock off at 2pm, and staff can waste hours going between offices as the departments are spread over such a large area. So what are the Council Actually doing for their money other than making sure their expenses claims are in on time???
From weekly to fortnightly, to monthly rubbish collections, No street lights, even in pedestrian areas between the train station and bus station, Then no buses after 9pm. and shops are closing all over town, and there's no jobs. The Council lorry and van drivers knock off at 2pm, and staff can waste hours going between offices as the departments are spread over such a large area. So what are the Council Actually doing for their money other than making sure their expenses claims are in on time??? JanJenkins
  • Score: 6

11:31pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Mwy Eira says...

I manage with the dmaller general watse bin as I recycle as much as possible but I for one don't find the food caddy big enough as I have a family. I cook mostly from scratch and what with all the fruit my kids eat as well I can easily fill a green caddy bag a day with apple cores and potato peelings etc. A chicken carcass can take up a lot of room in one of those things even after you have used it to make soup. Yes, I could have a compost heap but like a few people I know it attracts all sorts of wildlife, some of which I'd rather not attract ! The food caddy is fine for a single people or couples but are not big enough for families. And what about feminine hygiene products? Eww eww eew. Glad I don't live in Torfaen!
I manage with the dmaller general watse bin as I recycle as much as possible but I for one don't find the food caddy big enough as I have a family. I cook mostly from scratch and what with all the fruit my kids eat as well I can easily fill a green caddy bag a day with apple cores and potato peelings etc. A chicken carcass can take up a lot of room in one of those things even after you have used it to make soup. Yes, I could have a compost heap but like a few people I know it attracts all sorts of wildlife, some of which I'd rather not attract ! The food caddy is fine for a single people or couples but are not big enough for families. And what about feminine hygiene products? Eww eww eew. Glad I don't live in Torfaen! Mwy Eira
  • Score: 4

6:40am Sat 29 Mar 14

indy2012 says...

irisheyes wrote:
I refuse to use the tip since they decided we had to negotiate a steel steps to dump our household waste.I recycle everything I can and always (just) manage to close my bin lid for our fortnightly collection.On the one occasion that the lid of my bin was marginally open I had a snotty sticker placed on it threatening to fine if bin lid isn't closed.
The biggest load of rubbish is our Community farm which is gobbling money like there is no tomorrow but the council refuses to either close it or run it at a profit.£400 grand losses per year I believe
The farm..... Bob Wellingtons baby methinks, so I guess that's O.K. for T.C.B.C. to waste £400k of our money to prop it open, to be honest if a private company was haemorrhaging this amount of money per year don't you think heads would roll.
We could harvest all the rats we would inherit if our overflowing bins are not collected fortnightly, donate them to the farm, another attraction for them, maybe people will flock to see them, this will help to raise some capital towards being profitable, we don't want to be wasting our money on crossing patrols, street lighting etc, children and adults are safe enough to walk our streets we have P.C.S.O's for gods sake.
[quote][p][bold]irisheyes[/bold] wrote: I refuse to use the tip since they decided we had to negotiate a steel steps to dump our household waste.I recycle everything I can and always (just) manage to close my bin lid for our fortnightly collection.On the one occasion that the lid of my bin was marginally open I had a snotty sticker placed on it threatening to fine if bin lid isn't closed. The biggest load of rubbish is our Community farm which is gobbling money like there is no tomorrow but the council refuses to either close it or run it at a profit.£400 grand losses per year I believe[/p][/quote]The farm..... Bob Wellingtons baby methinks, so I guess that's O.K. for T.C.B.C. to waste £400k of our money to prop it open, to be honest if a private company was haemorrhaging this amount of money per year don't you think heads would roll. We could harvest all the rats we would inherit if our overflowing bins are not collected fortnightly, donate them to the farm, another attraction for them, maybe people will flock to see them, this will help to raise some capital towards being profitable, we don't want to be wasting our money on crossing patrols, street lighting etc, children and adults are safe enough to walk our streets we have P.C.S.O's for gods sake. indy2012
  • Score: 6

12:25pm Sat 29 Mar 14

asylumhouse says...

what amazes me is how old bob and the mayor found the funds to bring a team of 11 football players made up of mates and the other team of 11 plus another 20 assorted leeches and give them a nice freebie, "what ever your drinking", night out down the cwmbran town football club.
Its ok though because we all picked up the tab, i hoped you enjoyed it as much as they did.!!
what amazes me is how old bob and the mayor found the funds to bring a team of 11 football players made up of mates and the other team of 11 plus another 20 assorted leeches and give them a nice freebie, "what ever your drinking", night out down the cwmbran town football club. Its ok though because we all picked up the tab, i hoped you enjoyed it as much as they did.!! asylumhouse
  • Score: 5

5:24pm Tue 1 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

asylumhouse wrote:
what amazes me is how old bob and the mayor found the funds to bring a team of 11 football players made up of mates and the other team of 11 plus another 20 assorted leeches and give them a nice freebie, "what ever your drinking", night out down the cwmbran town football club.
Its ok though because we all picked up the tab, i hoped you enjoyed it as much as they did.!!
This because each 'department ' has an imposed budget to work to.

I have queried this nonsense before, and been told that they cannot take from one budget to cover any shortfall in another,
Unless they can appropriate funding from a catch all reserve, the possibility is we never find our how much and to which department such appropriations are applied and for what reason.

You'd have to be a well trained chartered accountant to decipher the figures anyway.

It's inherent in all council business, the more you probe the thicker the smoke becomes. I have paperwork to hand to demonstrate that assessment over the sale of a council owned property that went down from 44 grand to 12 grand before being sold to a company I could never find who ran it,. my suspicions were that someone in the council establishment was involved.

But the deeper I probed the further away the answers were. I was forced to give up in the end.
[quote][p][bold]asylumhouse[/bold] wrote: what amazes me is how old bob and the mayor found the funds to bring a team of 11 football players made up of mates and the other team of 11 plus another 20 assorted leeches and give them a nice freebie, "what ever your drinking", night out down the cwmbran town football club. Its ok though because we all picked up the tab, i hoped you enjoyed it as much as they did.!![/p][/quote]This because each 'department ' has an imposed budget to work to. I have queried this nonsense before, and been told that they cannot take from one budget to cover any shortfall in another, Unless they can appropriate funding from a catch all reserve, the possibility is we never find our how much and to which department such appropriations are applied and for what reason. You'd have to be a well trained chartered accountant to decipher the figures anyway. It's inherent in all council business, the more you probe the thicker the smoke becomes. I have paperwork to hand to demonstrate that assessment over the sale of a council owned property that went down from 44 grand to 12 grand before being sold to a company I could never find who ran it,. my suspicions were that someone in the council establishment was involved. But the deeper I probed the further away the answers were. I was forced to give up in the end. varteg1
  • Score: 1

10:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Floppy backed says...

There is a lot of fly tipping up with us we have even caught lazy people who cant be bothered to drive to the tip. Monthly collection would only exacerbate this and just wont work. We pay the high end of council tax here for which we receive no lighting, no pavement, pot hole galor, once a year hedge cutting, hardly any verge maintenance, no signage etc. So really like many I am subsidising the rest of the Torfaen population and I'd much rather have my own bin man and pay direct.

I'm lucky I can feed my food waste to the animal, the cats have the bones, and we burn all the cardboard and paper which can be a bag full. I cook from scratch and careful what I buy, all bottles etc are recycled however packaging is still the biggest problem and this is purely down to the supermarkets who are controlled by the consumer. Until people start cutting down on the amount of rubbish they buy then there is no answer to this. It is everyones responsibility to ensure they do the upmost for the environment but like any service its abused.

Torfaen is a shocking council to deal with. What about a reward system the more you recycle you get vouchers? Start incentives and reward those who do the most and ignore those who do nothing?
There is a lot of fly tipping up with us we have even caught lazy people who cant be bothered to drive to the tip. Monthly collection would only exacerbate this and just wont work. We pay the high end of council tax here for which we receive no lighting, no pavement, pot hole galor, once a year hedge cutting, hardly any verge maintenance, no signage etc. So really like many I am subsidising the rest of the Torfaen population and I'd much rather have my own bin man and pay direct. I'm lucky I can feed my food waste to the animal, the cats have the bones, and we burn all the cardboard and paper which can be a bag full. I cook from scratch and careful what I buy, all bottles etc are recycled however packaging is still the biggest problem and this is purely down to the supermarkets who are controlled by the consumer. Until people start cutting down on the amount of rubbish they buy then there is no answer to this. It is everyones responsibility to ensure they do the upmost for the environment but like any service its abused. Torfaen is a shocking council to deal with. What about a reward system the more you recycle you get vouchers? Start incentives and reward those who do the most and ignore those who do nothing? Floppy backed
  • Score: 0

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