Newport snubbed in rail map of Welsh destinations

South Wales Argus: TRAIN TOUR: Arriva Trains Wales' map publicising destinations on their routes across Wales makes no mention of Newport TRAIN TOUR: Arriva Trains Wales' map publicising destinations on their routes across Wales makes no mention of Newport

A NEW map which shows all the key places to visit in Wales has missed Newport from its list of destinations.

The map produced by Arriva Trains Wales shows Cardiff and Swansea, but completely bypasses Newport.

This has led to Newportonians reacting angrily to the map, stating that it is ‘unbelievable’ that the leading train company could have made such a ‘blunder’.

Cllr Matthew Evans said: “I find it unbelievable that one of the largest cities in Wales is not included.

“It is (Newport) steeped in history and has a lot of historic landmarks with Tredegar House and the Transporter Bridge.

“It is a huge blunder on their behalf.”

NO NEWPORT: The Arriva Trains Wales map

South Wales Argus:

But Arriva Trains Wales have said that the map is just part of a campaign aiming to inspire train travel.

An Arriva Trains Wales spokesman said: “The new Arriva Trains Wales ‘Great Attractions’ campaign seeks to encourage the public to visit a wide variety of the amazing destinations that can be found throughout the Wales and Borders area, as served by our rail network.

“The campaign includes a ‘tip of the iceberg’ selection of attractions within reasonable walking distance of a railway station and attract the highest visitor footfall. We regret that it has not been possible to include every location or attraction in Wales in this material. Our intention is to inspire train travel to the most popular attractions, not to promote any specific location.”

Sites included on the map are Caerphilly Castle, Barry Island, the Brecon Beacons National Park and Chester Zoo.

But with Newport and its attractions not included, city traders are not happy.

“I think it is outrageous to miss a city which hosted the Ryder Cup and is steeped in history,” Jon Thomas of The Lamb said.

Jon Powell of The Kiosk, Newport, said: “Maybe they are going to produce a separate map just for Newport and Gwent?

“I’m sure there were so many great things in Newport they didn’t want the rest of Wales to look bad.”

Labour councillor for Rogerstone, Chris Evans, was also disappointed that Newport was missed out from the map of Welsh attractions.

“In business, we all make the occasional mistake, and, I’m sure Arriva Trains Wales have made a mistake with this map,” he said.

“I hope they will now do the right thing, and withdraw it, and, reissue a new map, which gives justice to Newport’s proud heritage, and bright future.”

Others said the map would deprive people of what Newport has to offer.

David Hando, chairman of Friends of Newport Transporter Bridge, said: “There is so much to see in and around Newport that for people not to stop off, they are depriving themselves of things like the Transporter Bridge.

“The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain.

“With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.”

Arriva Trains Wales has said they hope to include the city as the campaign continues.

An Arriva Trains Wales spokesman said: “We recognise that Newport is a popular destination for thousands of Arriva Trains Wales customers, and we would seek to include its attractions as we continue with the development of the campaign.”

What Newport attractions do you think should be on the map? Let us know by leaving a comment.

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10:33am Mon 7 Apr 14

-trigg- says...

Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. -trigg-
  • Score: 40

10:34am Mon 7 Apr 14

billy boy 2 says...

Get The Message Newport Council Try Harder If You Want To Get On It
Get The Message Newport Council Try Harder If You Want To Get On It billy boy 2
  • Score: 27

11:03am Mon 7 Apr 14

Walter Devereux says...

No real surprise here. They don't even want to run trains from the Western Valley into Newport High Street. This way they can pretend Newport doesn't exist and the problem goes away!
No real surprise here. They don't even want to run trains from the Western Valley into Newport High Street. This way they can pretend Newport doesn't exist and the problem goes away! Walter Devereux
  • Score: 31

11:16am Mon 7 Apr 14

NakedDancer says...

Newport should be on any cultural map if only for Caerleon amphitheare, barracks, National Roman Museum and Roman Baths Museum attracting school parties and visitors from around the world. Not forgetting Newport Transporter Bridge and Tredegar House. Easily competes with many of the landmarks on the map eg spa day at luxury hotel Conwy. Ridiculous.
Newport should be on any cultural map if only for Caerleon amphitheare, barracks, National Roman Museum and Roman Baths Museum attracting school parties and visitors from around the world. Not forgetting Newport Transporter Bridge and Tredegar House. Easily competes with many of the landmarks on the map eg spa day at luxury hotel Conwy. Ridiculous. NakedDancer
  • Score: 41

11:19am Mon 7 Apr 14

wagtail says...

Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.

SPOT ON

“The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain.

“With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.”

Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list?

We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city wagtail
  • Score: -16

11:38am Mon 7 Apr 14

collis2k3 says...

Has anyone also noticed a lack of Cardiff Airport, Llantwit Major, Oakwood etc. so I'm not surprised Newport is not on it, there simply isn't the room.
Has anyone also noticed a lack of Cardiff Airport, Llantwit Major, Oakwood etc. so I'm not surprised Newport is not on it, there simply isn't the room. collis2k3
  • Score: -4

11:41am Mon 7 Apr 14

NakedDancer says...

wagtail wrote:
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city
This article is not about "how good Newport ?". As you pointed out - Newport has more than enough to compete with the other landmarks on the map.
[quote][p][bold]wagtail[/bold] wrote: Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city[/p][/quote]This article is not about "how good Newport ?". As you pointed out - Newport has more than enough to compete with the other landmarks on the map. NakedDancer
  • Score: 16

11:59am Mon 7 Apr 14

paddyparry says...

I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is.
I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is. paddyparry
  • Score: 19

12:07pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Snowglobe says...

I can see the argument from both sides. However Chepstow attractions are more than a little walk from the train station and that station is included. I know that Chepstow does have a lot to offer though
I can see the argument from both sides. However Chepstow attractions are more than a little walk from the train station and that station is included. I know that Chepstow does have a lot to offer though Snowglobe
  • Score: 3

12:14pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Kevin67 says...

The council and those who are 'outraged' by this are obviously not acknowledging how far Newport has fallen. Newport is not a place I would like to promote to visitors and if I had any friends travelling from other parts of the UK or Europe to Wales I would urge them to avoid Newport and go elsewhere. In fact, I would take Arriva's lead and conveniently forget it exists. This is not because Newport doesn't have anything to offer, far from it. Newport has a rich history and all of the landmarks listed above are worth a visit - but not now.

Newport has fallen so far that actively promoting it now would not only be a disservice to Newport itself but to Wales in general. I certainly agree that Newport may have a bright future and the development at the bus station site should, if completed, bring some much needed custom and pride back to the town. But it would be an embarrassment for visitors to come to Newport now. What would they see? Boarded up shops, dirty streets, addicts hanging around the cash machines by HSBC, alcoholics shouting at each other on commercial street, an assault course of ambulance chasers, people trying to sell you sky tv, virgin tv, electric cigarettes followed by 3 different charities trying to extract money from a city so deprived even a bottle of white lightning is breaking the bank. Visitors could maybe have spot of lunch in Newport - where? How about taking in a film. No sorry, you'll have to drive out to a retail park. How about a nice little hotel in the centre of town, how does a travel lodge above a nightclub sound, lovely.

My mother used to bring me to Newport when I was younger and would tell me about the history, the Chartists and the Westgate Hotel, the Transporter bridge etc. We used to enjoy browsing the shops, having a bit of lunch. My mother won't go to Newport now as she feels intimidated, intimidated by the economic and social decline as well as fearing for her life or purse. I wouldn't walk around Newport in the dark would never let my girlfriend wander around either unless she was wearing stab proof vest, a mask to shield her nose from the odour as well as holding a ticket to Cardiff (in her hand not in her purse as that would be long gone).

Why oh why would you promote Newport until it has something to offer.
The council and those who are 'outraged' by this are obviously not acknowledging how far Newport has fallen. Newport is not a place I would like to promote to visitors and if I had any friends travelling from other parts of the UK or Europe to Wales I would urge them to avoid Newport and go elsewhere. In fact, I would take Arriva's lead and conveniently forget it exists. This is not because Newport doesn't have anything to offer, far from it. Newport has a rich history and all of the landmarks listed above are worth a visit - but not now. Newport has fallen so far that actively promoting it now would not only be a disservice to Newport itself but to Wales in general. I certainly agree that Newport may have a bright future and the development at the bus station site should, if completed, bring some much needed custom and pride back to the town. But it would be an embarrassment for visitors to come to Newport now. What would they see? Boarded up shops, dirty streets, addicts hanging around the cash machines by HSBC, alcoholics shouting at each other on commercial street, an assault course of ambulance chasers, people trying to sell you sky tv, virgin tv, electric cigarettes followed by 3 different charities trying to extract money from a city so deprived even a bottle of white lightning is breaking the bank. Visitors could maybe have spot of lunch in Newport - where? How about taking in a film. No sorry, you'll have to drive out to a retail park. How about a nice little hotel in the centre of town, how does a travel lodge above a nightclub sound, lovely. My mother used to bring me to Newport when I was younger and would tell me about the history, the Chartists and the Westgate Hotel, the Transporter bridge etc. We used to enjoy browsing the shops, having a bit of lunch. My mother won't go to Newport now as she feels intimidated, intimidated by the economic and social decline as well as fearing for her life or purse. I wouldn't walk around Newport in the dark would never let my girlfriend wander around either unless she was wearing stab proof vest, a mask to shield her nose from the odour as well as holding a ticket to Cardiff (in her hand not in her purse as that would be long gone). Why oh why would you promote Newport until it has something to offer. Kevin67
  • Score: 27

12:18pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Snowglobe says...

Newport will have its only monopoly board in the not so distant future, perhaps they should have been included on that basis! Visit the locations on the board... or are they still struggling to fill old kent road?
Newport will have its only monopoly board in the not so distant future, perhaps they should have been included on that basis! Visit the locations on the board... or are they still struggling to fill old kent road? Snowglobe
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

wagtail wrote:
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.

SPOT ON

“The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain.

“With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.”

Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list?

We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city
We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon.
However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit.
Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through.
A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors.
If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be?
Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place.
It needs a total makeover.
[quote][p][bold]wagtail[/bold] wrote: Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city[/p][/quote]We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon. However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit. Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through. A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors. If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be? Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place. It needs a total makeover. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 9

12:22pm Mon 7 Apr 14

NakedDancer says...

paddyparry wrote:
I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is.
Well yes - but Wye Valley within reasonable walking distance of Chepstow and Brecon Beacons within reasonable walking distance of Abergavenny is pretty creative with that definition.
[quote][p][bold]paddyparry[/bold] wrote: I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is.[/p][/quote]Well yes - but Wye Valley within reasonable walking distance of Chepstow and Brecon Beacons within reasonable walking distance of Abergavenny is pretty creative with that definition. NakedDancer
  • Score: 17

12:26pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wagtail says...

I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is.

You have the iconic Admiral building. What else do you want?
I think the clue is in the fact that places of interest need to be within walking distance of a station. Nothing Newport has to offer is. You have the iconic Admiral building. What else do you want? wagtail
  • Score: -5

12:33pm Mon 7 Apr 14

DavidMclean says...

Think about it...

It's all a cunning ploy to put those pesky protesters off the scent come the NATO summit. If they can't find us on a dodgy Arriva Trains Wales graphic, how will they find us at all?

It's brilliant!

The only concern is that President Obama, Angela Merkel etc will all get on the train at Paddington (reserved seats no doubt) but will become confused and get off at Barry Island instead. Which will be OK if the weather holds.
Think about it... It's all a cunning ploy to put those pesky protesters off the scent come the NATO summit. If they can't find us on a dodgy Arriva Trains Wales graphic, how will they find us at all? It's brilliant! The only concern is that President Obama, Angela Merkel etc will all get on the train at Paddington (reserved seats no doubt) but will become confused and get off at Barry Island instead. Which will be OK if the weather holds. DavidMclean
  • Score: 5

12:37pm Mon 7 Apr 14

heresphil says...

If social deprivation should be a barrier to inclusion on the map, what is Rhyl (with its botched regeneration and drug dependency - sound familar) doing on there?

Or Swansea where, to reach the city centre or the waterfront from the station, you have to run the gauntlet of its shabby half-empty High Street?

Newport has attractions equal to some of those shown on the map, admittedly not in the city centre but then neither are many of the others in the cities actually highlighted.
If social deprivation should be a barrier to inclusion on the map, what is Rhyl (with its botched regeneration and drug dependency - sound familar) doing on there? Or Swansea where, to reach the city centre or the waterfront from the station, you have to run the gauntlet of its shabby half-empty High Street? Newport has attractions equal to some of those shown on the map, admittedly not in the city centre but then neither are many of the others in the cities actually highlighted. heresphil
  • Score: 19

12:55pm Mon 7 Apr 14

exrisca says...

The photograph at the top is of a train entering Risca Station which is in Caerphilly Borough. Well done Argus! .
The photograph at the top is of a train entering Risca Station which is in Caerphilly Borough. Well done Argus! . exrisca
  • Score: 16

1:27pm Mon 7 Apr 14

westsi1983 says...

Sour grapes from a council which provides almost no recreational or tourist facilities of real merit. They rely on other people doing it for them, otherwise it just won't happen.

Tredegar House - Benefitting from being run by the national trust
Transporter bridge - closed half the time with no facilities or marketing leaflets
Caerleon - few marketing leaflets and how on earth do you get there by train?!

The council are so busy cutting costs so they can increase the allowances of the councillors and the number of self-serving civil servants that they wouldn't dream of doing something that might actually benefit Newport's economy and promoting and increasing tourism to and around the city.

This is a perfect example of why none of Newport's councillors or civil servants are up to the job, rather than doing something about the underlying problem they ask the local newspaper to throw stones on their behalf, so all we have are a bunch of sound biting pretend politicians at the helm... About time they stood aside and let people WITH IDEAS actually sort out the mess they have made. Of course, that won't happen because people in Newport keep voting for the same people as they have done for generations...

As for what should be on the map for Newport... nothing, there is nowhere for a tourist to come and SPEND money into the economy of Newport, an uncomfortable truth the council don't want to draw attention to because it is in their control...
Sour grapes from a council which provides almost no recreational or tourist facilities of real merit. They rely on other people doing it for them, otherwise it just won't happen. Tredegar House - Benefitting from being run by the national trust Transporter bridge - closed half the time with no facilities or marketing leaflets Caerleon - few marketing leaflets and how on earth do you get there by train?! The council are so busy cutting costs so they can increase the allowances of the councillors and the number of self-serving civil servants that they wouldn't dream of doing something that might actually benefit Newport's economy and promoting and increasing tourism to and around the city. This is a perfect example of why none of Newport's councillors or civil servants are up to the job, rather than doing something about the underlying problem they ask the local newspaper to throw stones on their behalf, so all we have are a bunch of sound biting pretend politicians at the helm... About time they stood aside and let people WITH IDEAS actually sort out the mess they have made. Of course, that won't happen because people in Newport keep voting for the same people as they have done for generations... As for what should be on the map for Newport... nothing, there is nowhere for a tourist to come and SPEND money into the economy of Newport, an uncomfortable truth the council don't want to draw attention to because it is in their control... westsi1983
  • Score: 4

1:27pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Walter Devereux says...

The map is not to scale -- fair enough, but the topology is utterly wrong. Since when does the Ebbw Vale line pass through Caerphilly? And since when is the next stop on from Caerphilly Abergavenny? This whole thing is best ignored.
The map is not to scale -- fair enough, but the topology is utterly wrong. Since when does the Ebbw Vale line pass through Caerphilly? And since when is the next stop on from Caerphilly Abergavenny? This whole thing is best ignored. Walter Devereux
  • Score: 16

1:44pm Mon 7 Apr 14

-trigg- says...

DavidMclean wrote:
Think about it... It's all a cunning ploy to put those pesky protesters off the scent come the NATO summit. If they can't find us on a dodgy Arriva Trains Wales graphic, how will they find us at all? It's brilliant! The only concern is that President Obama, Angela Merkel etc will all get on the train at Paddington (reserved seats no doubt) but will become confused and get off at Barry Island instead. Which will be OK if the weather holds.
Barry Obama at Barry Island... I can almost picture it

Surely that's grounds enough for a Gavin and Stacey special. Nessa would obviously already know him from a previous career and perhaps we would finally discover what happened on that fishing trip
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: Think about it... It's all a cunning ploy to put those pesky protesters off the scent come the NATO summit. If they can't find us on a dodgy Arriva Trains Wales graphic, how will they find us at all? It's brilliant! The only concern is that President Obama, Angela Merkel etc will all get on the train at Paddington (reserved seats no doubt) but will become confused and get off at Barry Island instead. Which will be OK if the weather holds.[/p][/quote]Barry Obama at Barry Island... I can almost picture it Surely that's grounds enough for a Gavin and Stacey special. Nessa would obviously already know him from a previous career and perhaps we would finally discover what happened on that fishing trip -trigg-
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Templar05 says...

Being originally from Newport and living in Canada , I moved back home in 2004 2008 . I found Newport rich, with cultural history . I did not own a car, but I walked everywhere, to see everything . Newport city councilors need to stand up for the city they supposedly represent .
Being originally from Newport and living in Canada , I moved back home in 2004 2008 . I found Newport rich, with cultural history . I did not own a car, but I walked everywhere, to see everything . Newport city councilors need to stand up for the city they supposedly represent . Templar05
  • Score: 20

2:10pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Johnofnewport says...

An over site by a graphic artist ? An example of Newport being sidelined by omission.
They should be withdrawn and corrected, as I have said before perceptions are everything this episode show we are not perceived at all.
An over site by a graphic artist ? An example of Newport being sidelined by omission. They should be withdrawn and corrected, as I have said before perceptions are everything this episode show we are not perceived at all. Johnofnewport
  • Score: -1

2:36pm Mon 7 Apr 14

robrat41 says...

Snowglobe wrote:
I can see the argument from both sides. However Chepstow attractions are more than a little walk from the train station and that station is included. I know that Chepstow does have a lot to offer though
If you are reasonably fit, Anyhwere in Chepstow is an easy walk from the station. It's less than 2 miles in the longest direction to get out of the town and less than a quarter of a mile in the shortest direction.

Loads to see while you are there like the Castle and the portwall and um, um, um well that's it I am afraid
[quote][p][bold]Snowglobe[/bold] wrote: I can see the argument from both sides. However Chepstow attractions are more than a little walk from the train station and that station is included. I know that Chepstow does have a lot to offer though[/p][/quote]If you are reasonably fit, Anyhwere in Chepstow is an easy walk from the station. It's less than 2 miles in the longest direction to get out of the town and less than a quarter of a mile in the shortest direction. Loads to see while you are there like the Castle and the portwall and um, um, um well that's it I am afraid robrat41
  • Score: 8

2:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

DDDog1 says...

-trigg- wrote:
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.
Yes people would come from miles away to view some old logs flooting in a bath of dirty water,I know I would.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.[/p][/quote]Yes people would come from miles away to view some old logs flooting in a bath of dirty water,I know I would. DDDog1
  • Score: 5

3:03pm Mon 7 Apr 14

SUNSHINE ON A CLOUDY DAY says...

Newport council does nothing to promote what Newport has to offer for example how many actually know of the Wales coast path at Goldcliff ? lovely area with the sea for fishing from the seawall or the kids to go crabbing with beautiful countryside yet the seawall is not signposted until you get to the seawall turnoff.To rejuvenate Newport we need not only tourist`s to visit our attractions but also we need to encourage we who live here to appreciate what is on our own doorstop and to do that money needs to be spent on cleaning up Newport and encourage investors before its too late
Newport council does nothing to promote what Newport has to offer for example how many actually know of the Wales coast path at Goldcliff ? lovely area with the sea for fishing from the seawall or the kids to go crabbing with beautiful countryside yet the seawall is not signposted until you get to the seawall turnoff.To rejuvenate Newport we need not only tourist`s to visit our attractions but also we need to encourage we who live here to appreciate what is on our own doorstop and to do that money needs to be spent on cleaning up Newport and encourage investors before its too late SUNSHINE ON A CLOUDY DAY
  • Score: 8

3:08pm Mon 7 Apr 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

I've lived in a number of tourist towns and cities over the years, and without exception, 99.9% of the locals hate them. I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
I've lived in a number of tourist towns and cities over the years, and without exception, 99.9% of the locals hate them. I really don't see what all the fuss is about. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Explainitplease says...

Going to be some disappointed tourists at Barry Island this year!
Going to be some disappointed tourists at Barry Island this year! Explainitplease
  • Score: 11

3:52pm Mon 7 Apr 14

PontyPeter says...

Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong.
It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea!
It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly!
No Severn Tunnel line!
Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction.
Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong. It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea! It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly! No Severn Tunnel line! Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction. PontyPeter
  • Score: 7

4:47pm Mon 7 Apr 14

paddyparry says...

PontyPeter wrote:
Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong.
It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea!
It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly!
No Severn Tunnel line!
Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction.
Peter, It is a tourist advertising map for promotion. It doesn't have to be accurate in every detail. None of the posters like this isuued by BR or the old GWR were either.
[quote][p][bold]PontyPeter[/bold] wrote: Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong. It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea! It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly! No Severn Tunnel line! Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction.[/p][/quote]Peter, It is a tourist advertising map for promotion. It doesn't have to be accurate in every detail. None of the posters like this isuued by BR or the old GWR were either. paddyparry
  • Score: 3

5:50pm Mon 7 Apr 14

welshmen says...

Explainitplease wrote:
Going to be some disappointed tourists at Barry Island this year!
In the summer all Barry island is missing are the Camels....
[quote][p][bold]Explainitplease[/bold] wrote: Going to be some disappointed tourists at Barry Island this year![/p][/quote]In the summer all Barry island is missing are the Camels.... welshmen
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Woodgnome says...

The most recent national news was the demolition of the Mural - not exactly a big sell for Newport.
The most recent national news was the demolition of the Mural - not exactly a big sell for Newport. Woodgnome
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Mon 7 Apr 14

jon_than_ says...

Newport is just a city that attempts to copy Cardiff, expect it's five years behind, with a third of the money, and without any real consideration given to the overall city and culture. There may be areas of interest in Newport, but they're far eclipsed by those just down the road in almost all directions.
Newport is just a city that attempts to copy Cardiff, expect it's five years behind, with a third of the money, and without any real consideration given to the overall city and culture. There may be areas of interest in Newport, but they're far eclipsed by those just down the road in almost all directions. jon_than_
  • Score: -4

6:50pm Mon 7 Apr 14

NakedDancer says...

jon_than_ wrote:
Newport is just a city that attempts to copy Cardiff, expect it's five years behind, with a third of the money, and without any real consideration given to the overall city and culture. There may be areas of interest in Newport, but they're far eclipsed by those just down the road in almost all directions.
Really ? Newport bears no resemblance to Cardiff and has no plans to be. Newport would love a third of the money - the WAG and private investment in Cardiff massively outweighs anywhere else in Wales. Is Cardiff all that ?

Anyway, its not a beauty contest - there's only one attraction at Stonehenge !
[quote][p][bold]jon_than_[/bold] wrote: Newport is just a city that attempts to copy Cardiff, expect it's five years behind, with a third of the money, and without any real consideration given to the overall city and culture. There may be areas of interest in Newport, but they're far eclipsed by those just down the road in almost all directions.[/p][/quote]Really ? Newport bears no resemblance to Cardiff and has no plans to be. Newport would love a third of the money - the WAG and private investment in Cardiff massively outweighs anywhere else in Wales. Is Cardiff all that ? Anyway, its not a beauty contest - there's only one attraction at Stonehenge ! NakedDancer
  • Score: 15

7:35pm Mon 7 Apr 14

PontyPeter says...

paddyparry wrote:
PontyPeter wrote:
Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong.
It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea!
It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly!
No Severn Tunnel line!
Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction.
Peter, It is a tourist advertising map for promotion. It doesn't have to be accurate in every detail. None of the posters like this isuued by BR or the old GWR were either.
There's accurate and "accurate". My view is that this goes beyond what would be acceptable. A tourist could be totally confused by this track layout. It's not just a minor cosmetic error, but a fundamental flaw. The result is that the map lacks credibility. If I were in Arriva Trains' marketing division I would send it back to the graphic designer and ask him/her to study a) the rail map, and b) a geographical map of Wales. Sorry, but there is no excuse for this.
[quote][p][bold]paddyparry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PontyPeter[/bold] wrote: Has Arriva Trains drawn up this map? It's totally wrong. It has Barry on the main line from Cardiff to Swansea! It has the line to Abergavenny totally confused with the Vally line to Caerphilly! No Severn Tunnel line! Forget the fact that Newport isn't on it - it's total fiction.[/p][/quote]Peter, It is a tourist advertising map for promotion. It doesn't have to be accurate in every detail. None of the posters like this isuued by BR or the old GWR were either.[/p][/quote]There's accurate and "accurate". My view is that this goes beyond what would be acceptable. A tourist could be totally confused by this track layout. It's not just a minor cosmetic error, but a fundamental flaw. The result is that the map lacks credibility. If I were in Arriva Trains' marketing division I would send it back to the graphic designer and ask him/her to study a) the rail map, and b) a geographical map of Wales. Sorry, but there is no excuse for this. PontyPeter
  • Score: 1

7:56pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Mike0408 says...

Newportonians reacting angrily to the map, stating that it is ‘unbelievable’ that the leading train company could have made such a ‘blunder’.

lol yeah ok, i have not heard or seen ANY anger of any nature because of us being missed of the map. i am guessing the Newportonians they are refuring to are people that are in teh council and stuff.

perhaps it wasnt a bluder, perhaps they missed us for a good reason, WHO WOULD WANT TO VISIT NEWPORT?? (other than to see friends/family) i mean what decent attraction do we have?? i don't think people want to visit newport city center to see all the shop we have that are closed down, maybe they would come to see something like teh roman baths, but once you have seen it, you have seen it. its not going to look any different next time is it?.
Newportonians reacting angrily to the map, stating that it is ‘unbelievable’ that the leading train company could have made such a ‘blunder’. lol yeah ok, i have not heard or seen ANY anger of any nature because of us being missed of the map. i am guessing the Newportonians they are refuring to are people that are in teh council and stuff. perhaps it wasnt a bluder, perhaps they missed us for a good reason, WHO WOULD WANT TO VISIT NEWPORT?? (other than to see friends/family) i mean what decent attraction do we have?? i don't think people want to visit newport city center to see all the shop we have that are closed down, maybe they would come to see something like teh roman baths, but once you have seen it, you have seen it. its not going to look any different next time is it?. Mike0408
  • Score: -4

8:30pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

Mike0408 wrote:
Newportonians reacting angrily to the map, stating that it is ‘unbelievable’ that the leading train company could have made such a ‘blunder’.

lol yeah ok, i have not heard or seen ANY anger of any nature because of us being missed of the map. i am guessing the Newportonians they are refuring to are people that are in teh council and stuff.

perhaps it wasnt a bluder, perhaps they missed us for a good reason, WHO WOULD WANT TO VISIT NEWPORT?? (other than to see friends/family) i mean what decent attraction do we have?? i don't think people want to visit newport city center to see all the shop we have that are closed down, maybe they would come to see something like teh roman baths, but once you have seen it, you have seen it. its not going to look any different next time is it?.
Can't say I am angry, I recall the European parliament creating a map of the UK that didn't have any part of wales on it. The Irish sea started at Gloucester... and just outside Birmingham.... At present there is very little to see or anywhere to shop, so they are just being kind to us, by avoiding embarrassment... they did try by refusing to join the valleys to Newport by rail and re directing to Cardiff, so to avoid causing us more pain.
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: Newportonians reacting angrily to the map, stating that it is ‘unbelievable’ that the leading train company could have made such a ‘blunder’. lol yeah ok, i have not heard or seen ANY anger of any nature because of us being missed of the map. i am guessing the Newportonians they are refuring to are people that are in teh council and stuff. perhaps it wasnt a bluder, perhaps they missed us for a good reason, WHO WOULD WANT TO VISIT NEWPORT?? (other than to see friends/family) i mean what decent attraction do we have?? i don't think people want to visit newport city center to see all the shop we have that are closed down, maybe they would come to see something like teh roman baths, but once you have seen it, you have seen it. its not going to look any different next time is it?.[/p][/quote]Can't say I am angry, I recall the European parliament creating a map of the UK that didn't have any part of wales on it. The Irish sea started at Gloucester... and just outside Birmingham.... At present there is very little to see or anywhere to shop, so they are just being kind to us, by avoiding embarrassment... they did try by refusing to join the valleys to Newport by rail and re directing to Cardiff, so to avoid causing us more pain. Mervyn James
  • Score: -7

8:37pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Grüngemüse says...

Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?
Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport? Grüngemüse
  • Score: -1

11:17pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Howie' says...

Grüngemüse wrote:
Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?
Think you will find that they run several trains an hour in/out of Newport.
[quote][p][bold]Grüngemüse[/bold] wrote: Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?[/p][/quote]Think you will find that they run several trains an hour in/out of Newport. Howie'
  • Score: 4

7:54am Tue 8 Apr 14

PontyPeter says...

Grüngemüse wrote:
Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?
I think you are confusing Wales with the Isle of Wight.
[quote][p][bold]Grüngemüse[/bold] wrote: Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?[/p][/quote]I think you are confusing Wales with the Isle of Wight. PontyPeter
  • Score: 2

7:56am Tue 8 Apr 14

bravoscar says...

Don't forget Newport dump.
A most pleasant sight from the ring road very well placed and a fantastic smell everyday!
Don't forget Newport dump. A most pleasant sight from the ring road very well placed and a fantastic smell everyday! bravoscar
  • Score: -2

8:12am Tue 8 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

just shocked that people are suprised what is there to see a cheap tin train station and a load of boarded up shops and hotels

Labour delivering for wales lol
just shocked that people are suprised what is there to see a cheap tin train station and a load of boarded up shops and hotels Labour delivering for wales lol scraptheWAG
  • Score: -4

8:53am Tue 8 Apr 14

Grüngemüse says...

PontyPeter wrote:
Grüngemüse wrote:
Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?
I think you are confusing Wales with the Isle of Wight.
You are right. There is no valley lines service into Newport, the Ebbw Vale to Cardiff service goes through the outskirts without stopping. The services to Shrewsbury and Gloucester are a ATW service. Oops!
[quote][p][bold]PontyPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grüngemüse[/bold] wrote: Has no-one noticed that Arriva Trains Wales does not have a service into Newport so why would they advertise Newport?[/p][/quote]I think you are confusing Wales with the Isle of Wight.[/p][/quote]You are right. There is no valley lines service into Newport, the Ebbw Vale to Cardiff service goes through the outskirts without stopping. The services to Shrewsbury and Gloucester are a ATW service. Oops! Grüngemüse
  • Score: 0

9:10am Tue 8 Apr 14

MERoden says...

Stop your nonsense you lot of moaning Minnie's! Newport has plenty of tourist attractions, such as Tredegar House, Fourteen Locks, Bellevue Park, Wales National Velodrome, the Roman sites in Caerleon, one of which is a Roman Amphi-theatre (one of the best preserved in the whole of the UK).

Newport City Centre is on the up. It is being re-developed. Last year was the worst year for Newport, but Newport has now turned a corner. It has some nice coffee shops such as Java Coffee House on Charles Street as well as the likes of Costa Coffee and Starbucks. Work has actually started on the Friars Walk Shopping Centre development. Wildings is a classy store that has been in Newport for years and the good news is it is staying in Newport. It is actually undergoing a major refurbishment. This is great for Newport.

I can't believe Arriva Trains Wales has Swansea on their map, but not Newport. There is actually more to see in Newport than in Swansea. I visited Swansea City Centre last year, and it is absolutely FULL of empty boarded-up shops. So how come they included Swansea then?

This is just another excuse for Arriva Trains Wales to reject Newport. They need their heads examining. They can't even run their trains properly. They are always late. First Great Western and Cross Country trains are more reliable.
Stop your nonsense you lot of moaning Minnie's! Newport has plenty of tourist attractions, such as Tredegar House, Fourteen Locks, Bellevue Park, Wales National Velodrome, the Roman sites in Caerleon, one of which is a Roman Amphi-theatre (one of the best preserved in the whole of the UK). Newport City Centre is on the up. It is being re-developed. Last year was the worst year for Newport, but Newport has now turned a corner. It has some nice coffee shops such as Java Coffee House on Charles Street as well as the likes of Costa Coffee and Starbucks. Work has actually started on the Friars Walk Shopping Centre development. Wildings is a classy store that has been in Newport for years and the good news is it is staying in Newport. It is actually undergoing a major refurbishment. This is great for Newport. I can't believe Arriva Trains Wales has Swansea on their map, but not Newport. There is actually more to see in Newport than in Swansea. I visited Swansea City Centre last year, and it is absolutely FULL of empty boarded-up shops. So how come they included Swansea then? This is just another excuse for Arriva Trains Wales to reject Newport. They need their heads examining. They can't even run their trains properly. They are always late. First Great Western and Cross Country trains are more reliable. MERoden
  • Score: -2

10:34am Tue 8 Apr 14

-trigg- says...

I can understand them leaving Newport off of the map, but the biggest shock is that they haven't included The Vale of Usk on their map. Such an insult to the Celtic Manor...
I can understand them leaving Newport off of the map, but the biggest shock is that they haven't included The Vale of Usk on their map. Such an insult to the Celtic Manor... -trigg-
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Griff boy says...

Not too much to shout about in Newport I agree, but if Ebbw Vale is included because of the Festival Park Shopping then anything can be included. Only 1 worthwhile shop (if you like rugby) and takes all of 5 mins to see everything they have there!!
Not too much to shout about in Newport I agree, but if Ebbw Vale is included because of the Festival Park Shopping then anything can be included. Only 1 worthwhile shop (if you like rugby) and takes all of 5 mins to see everything they have there!! Griff boy
  • Score: 4

10:40pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Lord coed melyn says...

Sorry the reason you're not on map is Newport city council.
Integrated transport unit .
tel.01633 656656.
DONT DO TRAINS OR METRO. IS NOT IN UNITS REMIT?
ASKED DO YOU EVER TALK TO TRAIN OPERATORS.
ABOUT INTEGRATION TO MAKE SERVICES BETTER.
NO?
Sorry the reason you're not on map is Newport city council. Integrated transport unit . tel.01633 656656. DONT DO TRAINS OR METRO. IS NOT IN UNITS REMIT? ASKED DO YOU EVER TALK TO TRAIN OPERATORS. ABOUT INTEGRATION TO MAKE SERVICES BETTER. NO? Lord coed melyn
  • Score: -4

11:51am Wed 9 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

MERoden wrote:
Stop your nonsense you lot of moaning Minnie's! Newport has plenty of tourist attractions, such as Tredegar House, Fourteen Locks, Bellevue Park, Wales National Velodrome, the Roman sites in Caerleon, one of which is a Roman Amphi-theatre (one of the best preserved in the whole of the UK).

Newport City Centre is on the up. It is being re-developed. Last year was the worst year for Newport, but Newport has now turned a corner. It has some nice coffee shops such as Java Coffee House on Charles Street as well as the likes of Costa Coffee and Starbucks. Work has actually started on the Friars Walk Shopping Centre development. Wildings is a classy store that has been in Newport for years and the good news is it is staying in Newport. It is actually undergoing a major refurbishment. This is great for Newport.

I can't believe Arriva Trains Wales has Swansea on their map, but not Newport. There is actually more to see in Newport than in Swansea. I visited Swansea City Centre last year, and it is absolutely FULL of empty boarded-up shops. So how come they included Swansea then?

This is just another excuse for Arriva Trains Wales to reject Newport. They need their heads examining. They can't even run their trains properly. They are always late. First Great Western and Cross Country trains are more reliable.
Must be hell if you don't drink coffee ! I like Swansea its marina is pretty good. Really apart from the Romans at Caerleon and Tredegar House there isn't much else, and certainly no shops worth going to. Friars Walk has been mooted so many times a lot still do not believe it will happen, and if it does the shops won't be utilized so any variety is there to attract people in. I think Wildings is a great shop too, the rest rather reflect badly on Newport with junk shops, pound shops, charitable outlets pawnbrokers and loan sharks next to betting offices, hardly an great example of cosmopolitan in Gwent, it looks poor and, IS. The image of chavs sitting outside coffee shops in the cold and rain looks pathetic to be honest, Wales isn't the costa brava and the frequency we see the fatties in shorts wandering around as if it is, looks really weird.
[quote][p][bold]MERoden[/bold] wrote: Stop your nonsense you lot of moaning Minnie's! Newport has plenty of tourist attractions, such as Tredegar House, Fourteen Locks, Bellevue Park, Wales National Velodrome, the Roman sites in Caerleon, one of which is a Roman Amphi-theatre (one of the best preserved in the whole of the UK). Newport City Centre is on the up. It is being re-developed. Last year was the worst year for Newport, but Newport has now turned a corner. It has some nice coffee shops such as Java Coffee House on Charles Street as well as the likes of Costa Coffee and Starbucks. Work has actually started on the Friars Walk Shopping Centre development. Wildings is a classy store that has been in Newport for years and the good news is it is staying in Newport. It is actually undergoing a major refurbishment. This is great for Newport. I can't believe Arriva Trains Wales has Swansea on their map, but not Newport. There is actually more to see in Newport than in Swansea. I visited Swansea City Centre last year, and it is absolutely FULL of empty boarded-up shops. So how come they included Swansea then? This is just another excuse for Arriva Trains Wales to reject Newport. They need their heads examining. They can't even run their trains properly. They are always late. First Great Western and Cross Country trains are more reliable.[/p][/quote]Must be hell if you don't drink coffee ! I like Swansea its marina is pretty good. Really apart from the Romans at Caerleon and Tredegar House there isn't much else, and certainly no shops worth going to. Friars Walk has been mooted so many times a lot still do not believe it will happen, and if it does the shops won't be utilized so any variety is there to attract people in. I think Wildings is a great shop too, the rest rather reflect badly on Newport with junk shops, pound shops, charitable outlets pawnbrokers and loan sharks next to betting offices, hardly an great example of cosmopolitan in Gwent, it looks poor and, IS. The image of chavs sitting outside coffee shops in the cold and rain looks pathetic to be honest, Wales isn't the costa brava and the frequency we see the fatties in shorts wandering around as if it is, looks really weird. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Dolieboy says...

The highlights of Newport can be viewed from a train window. The castle and the wave.
The highlights of Newport can be viewed from a train window. The castle and the wave. Dolieboy
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Furface says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
wagtail wrote:
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.

SPOT ON

“The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain.

“With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.”

Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list?

We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city
We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon.
However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit.
Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through.
A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors.
If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be?
Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place.
It needs a total makeover.
Crikey - Caerleon isn't that bad - a run down place, a total makeover? I agree its a shame that some shops have closed but run down wouldn't be how I would describe Caerleon.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wagtail[/bold] wrote: Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city[/p][/quote]We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon. However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit. Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through. A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors. If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be? Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place. It needs a total makeover.[/p][/quote]Crikey - Caerleon isn't that bad - a run down place, a total makeover? I agree its a shame that some shops have closed but run down wouldn't be how I would describe Caerleon. Furface
  • Score: 2

7:19pm Sun 13 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

Furface wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
wagtail wrote:
Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to.

Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit.

SPOT ON

“The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain.

“With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.”

Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list?

We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city
We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon.
However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit.
Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through.
A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors.
If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be?
Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place.
It needs a total makeover.
Crikey - Caerleon isn't that bad - a run down place, a total makeover? I agree its a shame that some shops have closed but run down wouldn't be how I would describe Caerleon.
no caerleon is not run down that is newport
[quote][p][bold]Furface[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wagtail[/bold] wrote: Newport is one of those places people travel from, rather than to. Perhaps if the town had retained some cultural heritage or made the best of potential attractions such as the ship or what little is left of the castle there may actually be something to entice people to visit. SPOT ON “The Transporter Bridge is the only one of six working Transporter Bridges in the world, and the only one in Wales and one of only two in Britain. “With Tredegar House and the Roman remains at Caerleon, and Fourteen Locks and Newport Wetlands there is so much to see in the city itself, people will be depriving themselves if they don’t go.” Is this all we have? Can you blame them for leaving us off the list? We need to get used to it, were just a sh*** city[/p][/quote]We are justly proud of the Roman remains in Caeleon. However, Caerleon itself is not much of a great place to visit. Lots of shops closed, very poorly maintained properties on the Main Street through. A patchwork quilt of a botched road surface , it is just not that attractive to visitors. If this is one of Newport's 'jewel in the crown' places, why is it totally neglected by the powers that be? Visitors to Caerleon can't be impressed by such a run down place. It needs a total makeover.[/p][/quote]Crikey - Caerleon isn't that bad - a run down place, a total makeover? I agree its a shame that some shops have closed but run down wouldn't be how I would describe Caerleon.[/p][/quote]no caerleon is not run down that is newport scraptheWAG
  • Score: 0

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