YOUR MP WRITES: David Davies, MP for Monmouth

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It seems like only yesterday that the First Minister of Wales celebrated yet another tranche of powers being handed over to the Welsh Government and informed us he now had all the "tools" he needed to "get on with the job".

But just as spring follows winter, one law giving further powers to the Assembly will inevitably be followed by another.

Last week we began the job of devolving some borrowing powers and a referendum that could see a 10 per cent rise in income tax. As if this isn't enough, "Silk 2" (don't ask - I've only got 400 words) will probably recommend giving Assembly Members control of our police.

At least the Scots are being given a vote on whether or not they want independence. Here in Wales it is happening step by step.

Powers only go in one direction - to Cardiff. Although it may take a few decades, we are on a one-way street that could ultimately destroy the United Kingdom.

The Welsh Government is happily wielding its new powers to target e-cigarettes.

These are much safer than the real thing as they only emit water vapour and therefore do not affect the health of anyone standing in the vicinity. But nanny stateists are trying to get them banned because they don't like their fag-like appearance. If someone could make one that resembled an organic broccoli spear then maybe the busybodies in Cardiff Bay could be persuaded to butt out.

It was splendid to see Paul Flynn MP using his column to remind everyone about my views on climate change and the benefits system. Maybe next time he could also mention my stance on immigration and the need to scrap the Human Rights Act and deport foreign criminals and terrorists. At this rate, I could appoint him as my press officer.

It is not as if I try to keep my views a secret. On Monday, April 14 at 6.30pm I will be debating climate change with Sustain Wales and the Climate Change Consortium of Wales (C3W) at the St Mary’s Priory Centre in Abergavenny.

I will point out that the climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years. Pushing up energy bills for homeowners and businesses in the UK won't make any difference to global temperatures – although the hall will be full of green activists, so I expect them to rise temporarily above Abergavenny that evening.

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4:53pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Crossbenchtory says...

As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster.

Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.
As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster. Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England. Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 16

5:05pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

I know it may just be scaremongering on the part of David Davies, but if the Welsh Assembly were to be given tax raising powers which would result in a 10% rise in income tax, then I for one would move to England.
That is if property were saleable after such a catastrophic event.
Why would anyone in his or her right mind wish to stay in a country that penalises ambition and success?
I agree with him on climate change.
It is just another way of legitimising stealing from the taxpayer.
I know it may just be scaremongering on the part of David Davies, but if the Welsh Assembly were to be given tax raising powers which would result in a 10% rise in income tax, then I for one would move to England. That is if property were saleable after such a catastrophic event. Why would anyone in his or her right mind wish to stay in a country that penalises ambition and success? I agree with him on climate change. It is just another way of legitimising stealing from the taxpayer. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 17

5:19pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Crossbenchtory wrote:
As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster.

Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.
And Newport please.
[quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster. Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.[/p][/quote]And Newport please. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 15

5:22pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Crossbenchtory says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster.

Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.
And Newport please.
Only if you promise to behave ;)
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster. Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.[/p][/quote]And Newport please.[/p][/quote]Only if you promise to behave ;) Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 14

11:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Frankfurt says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster.

Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.
And Newport please.
No thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster. Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.[/p][/quote]And Newport please.[/p][/quote]No thank you. Frankfurt
  • Score: -14

7:25am Tue 8 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
I know it may just be scaremongering on the part of David Davies, but if the Welsh Assembly were to be given tax raising powers which would result in a 10% rise in income tax, then I for one would move to England.
That is if property were saleable after such a catastrophic event.
Why would anyone in his or her right mind wish to stay in a country that penalises ambition and success?
I agree with him on climate change.
It is just another way of legitimising stealing from the taxpayer.
It isn't scaremongering. The Welsh Labour Party have already said they would reimpose the 50% top rate which is an increase of 10%. Labour only know how to increase taxes. If thirteen years of Brown and his 140 new taxes of increases didn't convince you of that then nothing will. And that was in a so- called boom. Tax and squander is all they understand.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: I know it may just be scaremongering on the part of David Davies, but if the Welsh Assembly were to be given tax raising powers which would result in a 10% rise in income tax, then I for one would move to England. That is if property were saleable after such a catastrophic event. Why would anyone in his or her right mind wish to stay in a country that penalises ambition and success? I agree with him on climate change. It is just another way of legitimising stealing from the taxpayer.[/p][/quote]It isn't scaremongering. The Welsh Labour Party have already said they would reimpose the 50% top rate which is an increase of 10%. Labour only know how to increase taxes. If thirteen years of Brown and his 140 new taxes of increases didn't convince you of that then nothing will. And that was in a so- called boom. Tax and squander is all they understand. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 14

9:55am Tue 8 Apr 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Crossbenchtory wrote:
As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster.

Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.
Ah yes, that smooth-running, error-free, NHS in England.

Bear in mind that in England 60% of hospitals have death rates above the mortality index (in Wales the figure is nearly 20% less); bear in mind that in England there is a growing proportion of ambulance services being badly run by private contractors (look at the recent ambulance driver protests in Wakefield and Leeds); bear in mind the English NHS is run by arguably the worst health secretary in modern history, Jeremy Hunt, the political mouse who was given the top job after making a complete hash of the News of the World scandal and Hillsborough investigation when he was culture secretary.

In fact, Britain could do with some more areas being run for the whole of the UK through the Senedd. Jobsgrowth Wales has been far more successful than Ian Duncan Smith's failed 'Work programme', and English relatives of mine tell me that they wish they had an early years childcare scheme that was as successful as Flying Start is in Wales.

David 'tory tornado' Davies is never one to let the facts get in the way of his argument though, and if his petty attempts at political points scoring keep him contented, then let him carry on. Perhaps he could also look at issues that actually affect his constituents, like the bedroom tax (which is affecting people across his constituency from Abergavenny to Chepstow), the cost of living crisis (he and his assembly sidekick Nick Ramsey recently opened a foodbank, apparently without seeing the irony), a lack of social housing, and benefit changes that are hitting the young, the old and the disabled.

When you see the likes of Mr Davies in full swing it's easy to see why the tories poll at less than 20% in Wales. You know they're short of options when Davies is their mouthpiece, and the political giants William 'traffic is bad' Graham and Mohammad 'which party am I in this week' Asghar are their regional candidates!
[quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: As the MP for Monmouth, Mr Davies, could you please go further than raising the failings of devolution at PMQ's and actively seek the repatriation of the NHS and education back to Westminster. Failing this could we please arrange for the whole of Monmouthshire to be moved into England.[/p][/quote]Ah yes, that smooth-running, error-free, NHS in England. Bear in mind that in England 60% of hospitals have death rates above the mortality index (in Wales the figure is nearly 20% less); bear in mind that in England there is a growing proportion of ambulance services being badly run by private contractors (look at the recent ambulance driver protests in Wakefield and Leeds); bear in mind the English NHS is run by arguably the worst health secretary in modern history, Jeremy Hunt, the political mouse who was given the top job after making a complete hash of the News of the World scandal and Hillsborough investigation when he was culture secretary. In fact, Britain could do with some more areas being run for the whole of the UK through the Senedd. Jobsgrowth Wales has been far more successful than Ian Duncan Smith's failed 'Work programme', and English relatives of mine tell me that they wish they had an early years childcare scheme that was as successful as Flying Start is in Wales. David 'tory tornado' Davies is never one to let the facts get in the way of his argument though, and if his petty attempts at political points scoring keep him contented, then let him carry on. Perhaps he could also look at issues that actually affect his constituents, like the bedroom tax (which is affecting people across his constituency from Abergavenny to Chepstow), the cost of living crisis (he and his assembly sidekick Nick Ramsey recently opened a foodbank, apparently without seeing the irony), a lack of social housing, and benefit changes that are hitting the young, the old and the disabled. When you see the likes of Mr Davies in full swing it's easy to see why the tories poll at less than 20% in Wales. You know they're short of options when Davies is their mouthpiece, and the political giants William 'traffic is bad' Graham and Mohammad 'which party am I in this week' Asghar are their regional candidates! BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -9

10:54am Tue 8 Apr 14

On the inside says...

I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else! On the inside
  • Score: -12

11:10am Tue 8 Apr 14

Crossbenchtory says...

On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is. Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Tue 8 Apr 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted.

Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly).

I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS)

And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.
[quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted. Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly). I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS) And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough. BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -11

12:57pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
Apart from the wisdom of replying to an appalling troll I agree with every word of that post.
[quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]Apart from the wisdom of replying to an appalling troll I agree with every word of that post. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 9

1:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Crossbenchtory says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted.

Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly).

I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS)

And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.
Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it?

Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS.

Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common:

Merthyr Tydfil Labour
Anglesey NOC

Blaenau Gwent. Labour
Pembrokeshire. Ind
Torfaen. Labour
Monmouthshire. NOC

Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison.
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted. Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly). I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS) And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.[/p][/quote]Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it? Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS. Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common: Merthyr Tydfil Labour Anglesey NOC Blaenau Gwent. Labour Pembrokeshire. Ind Torfaen. Labour Monmouthshire. NOC Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison. Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 9

2:54pm Tue 8 Apr 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Crossbenchtory wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted.

Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly).

I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS)

And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.
Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it?

Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS.

Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common:

Merthyr Tydfil Labour
Anglesey NOC

Blaenau Gwent. Labour
Pembrokeshire. Ind
Torfaen. Labour
Monmouthshire. NOC

Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison.
I have never heard of anyone being excluded from a job because they can't speak Welsh. And I struggle to equate the fact that a government supports the growth of a language - albeit a language I don't speak but 500,000 people do - with people not being allowed to sit on certain park benches or eat in the same cafes because of the colour of their skin.

I find it hard to believe that in the 21st century anyone in a civilzed country could think that healthcare should be in the hands of private profiteeers. Perhaps if you lived in America - where elderly patients are dumped on the streets if they don't have health insurance and millions of people die every year because they can't afford to see a doctor - you would see things differently. There's a reason Brits live longer than Americans. Since the introduction of the NHS life expectancy has gone up, and millions of people -rich and poor, Labour voting and Tory voting - owe their lives to what you call a 'socialist abomination' . It is the pride of Britain, and even our most spiteful, ideologically bankrupt, monetarist PM Thatcher knew not to mess with it. Nye Bevan summed it up perfectly: "illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community". A brilliant quote, but common sense really.

The demonisation of state schools under the current government is quite astounding, although not unexpected given that most of the cabinet went to Eton.It speaks volumes that teachers, classroom assistants and lecturers have all spoken out against Gove in their droves (he was given a unanimous vote of no confidence by the NUT last year). I'd take Huw Lewis over that muppet any day!

The other councils you mention have to tackle dual problems - isolation in Pembrokeshire and Angelsey, and the difficulties stemming from deprivation in Merthyr, Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen. On the other hand, Monmouthshire is a largely (although not wholly) less affected by these problems. So why is the education department there performing so badly compared to poorer neighbours like Newport and Caerphilly? It's a question the tory-dominated cabinet
[quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted. Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly). I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS) And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.[/p][/quote]Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it? Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS. Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common: Merthyr Tydfil Labour Anglesey NOC Blaenau Gwent. Labour Pembrokeshire. Ind Torfaen. Labour Monmouthshire. NOC Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison.[/p][/quote]I have never heard of anyone being excluded from a job because they can't speak Welsh. And I struggle to equate the fact that a government supports the growth of a language - albeit a language I don't speak but 500,000 people do - with people not being allowed to sit on certain park benches or eat in the same cafes because of the colour of their skin. I find it hard to believe that in the 21st century anyone in a civilzed country could think that healthcare should be in the hands of private profiteeers. Perhaps if you lived in America - where elderly patients are dumped on the streets if they don't have health insurance and millions of people die every year because they can't afford to see a doctor - you would see things differently. There's a reason Brits live longer than Americans. Since the introduction of the NHS life expectancy has gone up, and millions of people -rich and poor, Labour voting and Tory voting - owe their lives to what you call a 'socialist abomination' . It is the pride of Britain, and even our most spiteful, ideologically bankrupt, monetarist PM Thatcher knew not to mess with it. Nye Bevan summed it up perfectly: "illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community". A brilliant quote, but common sense really. The demonisation of state schools under the current government is quite astounding, although not unexpected given that most of the cabinet went to Eton.It speaks volumes that teachers, classroom assistants and lecturers have all spoken out against Gove in their droves (he was given a unanimous vote of no confidence by the NUT last year). I'd take Huw Lewis over that muppet any day! The other councils you mention have to tackle dual problems - isolation in Pembrokeshire and Angelsey, and the difficulties stemming from deprivation in Merthyr, Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen. On the other hand, Monmouthshire is a largely (although not wholly) less affected by these problems. So why is the education department there performing so badly compared to poorer neighbours like Newport and Caerphilly? It's a question the tory-dominated cabinet BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -8

4:12pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted.

Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly).

I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS)

And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.
Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it?

Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS.

Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common:

Merthyr Tydfil Labour
Anglesey NOC

Blaenau Gwent. Labour
Pembrokeshire. Ind
Torfaen. Labour
Monmouthshire. NOC

Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison.
I have never heard of anyone being excluded from a job because they can't speak Welsh. And I struggle to equate the fact that a government supports the growth of a language - albeit a language I don't speak but 500,000 people do - with people not being allowed to sit on certain park benches or eat in the same cafes because of the colour of their skin.

I find it hard to believe that in the 21st century anyone in a civilzed country could think that healthcare should be in the hands of private profiteeers. Perhaps if you lived in America - where elderly patients are dumped on the streets if they don't have health insurance and millions of people die every year because they can't afford to see a doctor - you would see things differently. There's a reason Brits live longer than Americans. Since the introduction of the NHS life expectancy has gone up, and millions of people -rich and poor, Labour voting and Tory voting - owe their lives to what you call a 'socialist abomination' . It is the pride of Britain, and even our most spiteful, ideologically bankrupt, monetarist PM Thatcher knew not to mess with it. Nye Bevan summed it up perfectly: "illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community". A brilliant quote, but common sense really.

The demonisation of state schools under the current government is quite astounding, although not unexpected given that most of the cabinet went to Eton.It speaks volumes that teachers, classroom assistants and lecturers have all spoken out against Gove in their droves (he was given a unanimous vote of no confidence by the NUT last year). I'd take Huw Lewis over that muppet any day!

The other councils you mention have to tackle dual problems - isolation in Pembrokeshire and Angelsey, and the difficulties stemming from deprivation in Merthyr, Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen. On the other hand, Monmouthshire is a largely (although not wholly) less affected by these problems. So why is the education department there performing so badly compared to poorer neighbours like Newport and Caerphilly? It's a question the tory-dominated cabinet
500,000 don't speak it. If they did, why is it that National Savings closed their Welsh Language service because only 107 people wanted to correspond with them in Welsh? (and were then bullied back into reopening it by a language tsar on £104K p.a. of public money - if it's a living language why is she and her team a necessity?). Or why did Barclays reveal that less than 3% of people using cash machines in Wales press the 'Welsh' option? The marina at Llyn peninsula which would have brought jobs to an unemployment blackspot was opposed on the grounds that it 'would attract English speakers'. The 'language' issue is a convenient plank for politicians who have benefitted from using it as a tool to play the nationalist card. Nothing more. As for the 700 recent civil service recruits at WAG, wouldn't you rather have had more nurses?
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted. Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly). I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS) And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.[/p][/quote]Firstly, yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when the majority of the population are excluded from the majority of public sector jobs because they do not speak a second language which is only spoken by a small minority of the population. Yes I do call it linguistic apartheid when local councils refuse planning permission for much needed housing because people who don't speak a second, minority, language might move into the area. Out of interest, what would you call it? Secondly, your comments about the NHS in England merely reinforce my point, there are things govts should not be in charge of, like healthcare. As for Aneurin Bevan, he was a dogmatic fool who threw his toys out of the cot and left govt over some minor charges being introduced into the NHS. Thirdly, being that you are a self confessed socialist I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the truth get in the way when composing your comments. Aside from being in Wales what have the following councils got in common: Merthyr Tydfil Labour Anglesey NOC Blaenau Gwent. Labour Pembrokeshire. Ind Torfaen. Labour Monmouthshire. NOC Let me give you a clue, they're all in education special measures. How interesting, 50% of them are Labour run councils. The academies in England are generally performing better than other state run schools and are definitely delivering a better education than the socialist abomination in Wales. Being that they were introduced by Blair's govt (monkeys and typewriters rule applied) there is scope for a comparison.[/p][/quote]I have never heard of anyone being excluded from a job because they can't speak Welsh. And I struggle to equate the fact that a government supports the growth of a language - albeit a language I don't speak but 500,000 people do - with people not being allowed to sit on certain park benches or eat in the same cafes because of the colour of their skin. I find it hard to believe that in the 21st century anyone in a civilzed country could think that healthcare should be in the hands of private profiteeers. Perhaps if you lived in America - where elderly patients are dumped on the streets if they don't have health insurance and millions of people die every year because they can't afford to see a doctor - you would see things differently. There's a reason Brits live longer than Americans. Since the introduction of the NHS life expectancy has gone up, and millions of people -rich and poor, Labour voting and Tory voting - owe their lives to what you call a 'socialist abomination' . It is the pride of Britain, and even our most spiteful, ideologically bankrupt, monetarist PM Thatcher knew not to mess with it. Nye Bevan summed it up perfectly: "illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community". A brilliant quote, but common sense really. The demonisation of state schools under the current government is quite astounding, although not unexpected given that most of the cabinet went to Eton.It speaks volumes that teachers, classroom assistants and lecturers have all spoken out against Gove in their droves (he was given a unanimous vote of no confidence by the NUT last year). I'd take Huw Lewis over that muppet any day! The other councils you mention have to tackle dual problems - isolation in Pembrokeshire and Angelsey, and the difficulties stemming from deprivation in Merthyr, Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen. On the other hand, Monmouthshire is a largely (although not wholly) less affected by these problems. So why is the education department there performing so badly compared to poorer neighbours like Newport and Caerphilly? It's a question the tory-dominated cabinet[/p][/quote]500,000 don't speak it. If they did, why is it that National Savings closed their Welsh Language service because only 107 people wanted to correspond with them in Welsh? (and were then bullied back into reopening it by a language tsar on £104K p.a. of public money - if it's a living language why is she and her team a necessity?). Or why did Barclays reveal that less than 3% of people using cash machines in Wales press the 'Welsh' option? The marina at Llyn peninsula which would have brought jobs to an unemployment blackspot was opposed on the grounds that it 'would attract English speakers'. The 'language' issue is a convenient plank for politicians who have benefitted from using it as a tool to play the nationalist card. Nothing more. As for the 700 recent civil service recruits at WAG, wouldn't you rather have had more nurses? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 8

2:02pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Crossbenchtory wrote:
On the inside wrote:
I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else!
The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that.

Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high),

I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain,

yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future

and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.
As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted.

Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly).

I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS)

And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.
Do you honestly believe if Labour get in, then the economy will be safe with them?
Balls has already had his chance and b*****d it up.
As for Milliband, if you think that he would make a good Prime Minister I would seriously question your judgement.
List to PMQ's he is completely outflanked and outclassed by Cameron.
The Tories have not done a great job, so I am voting UKIP.
However in the Socialist Republic of Wales, I expect a large majority of the sheep will vote Labour, as their father voted Labour.
More tax and spend and more uncontrolled immigration.
If that's what you want then it can't come soon enough for you.
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossbenchtory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: I am sorry there are so many English loving, £150,000+ earning potential 50% tax payers (that's the rate it would start at), anti-human rights, Tory loving, David Davies clones living in Monmouth. Here's a solution. Bugger off and live somewhere else![/p][/quote]The way Wales is going, with crumbling NHS, lowest educational standards in the UK, ever increasing WAG imposed socialist brainwashing & state control, linguistic apartheid and the probability of WAG imposed tax increases to pay for nationalisation of more failed businesses, I may just do that. Just to clarify though, the top rate of tax is 45% (still way to high), I'm all in favour of human rights I think they are wonderful and worked very well in the UK until the socialists inflicted the Human Rights Act on us which actually reduced human rights in Britain, yes I'd love to see a Tory (or even Tory led) govt in the UK but I guess we are stuck with the current bunch of limp wristed spineless sycophants for the foreseeable future and finally whilst I have a huge amount of respect for Mr Davies and believe him to be an outstanding MP I would not describe myself as his clone, I'm far better looking than he is.[/p][/quote]As a Labour party man and a socialist I respect that I am at the different end of the political spectrum to you crossbenchtory, and each to their own, but I have to take issue with some of the points you make, which to me are quite far-fetched and distorted. Firstly, you surely didn't mean your bizarre and offensive 'linguistic apartheid' remark (I think if you were black South African you wouldn't use that term so sparingly). I was also surprised that you criticize 'socialists' for their handling of the NHS in Wales- if it wasn't for great socialists like Nye Bevan we wouldn't have an NHS to begin with. More to the point, try telling the ambulance drivers who were recently on strike in Wakefield that the English NHS is so much better run, or the people of Lewisham for that matter. And can the tory government really criticize Welsh Government health officials when they have employed the likes of Andrew Lansley and Jeremy Hunt in the top job (one of who was removed from his position after making a hash of things - one of Cameron's few decent decisions as PM - and both have been universally criticized by doctors and nurses, the most reliable voices on the NHS) And then education - the only council in Wales with it's education department under special measures for poor performance? You guessed it, tory-run Monmouthshire. Mind you, given the mess Michael Gove is creating nationally (demonising teachers and wasting money on the free schools flop) it's not surprising the tories can't handle education on a local level either! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the general election can't come soon enough.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe if Labour get in, then the economy will be safe with them? Balls has already had his chance and b*****d it up. As for Milliband, if you think that he would make a good Prime Minister I would seriously question your judgement. List to PMQ's he is completely outflanked and outclassed by Cameron. The Tories have not done a great job, so I am voting UKIP. However in the Socialist Republic of Wales, I expect a large majority of the sheep will vote Labour, as their father voted Labour. More tax and spend and more uncontrolled immigration. If that's what you want then it can't come soon enough for you. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 4

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