Cwmbran plagued by dumped trolleys

South Wales Argus: Cwmbran residents have complained to the council over fly-tipping in the area that includes 12 shopping trolleys.  Pictured is Mary Millar on Mead Lane with the large pile of shopping trolleys near her house. (5001424) Cwmbran residents have complained to the council over fly-tipping in the area that includes 12 shopping trolleys. Pictured is Mary Millar on Mead Lane with the large pile of shopping trolleys near her house. (5001424)

A COLLECTION service is fighting a battle against a tide of dumped trolleys after more than 3,000 were dumped in Cwmbran in one month alone.

The Argus understands Trolleywise, which collects abandoned trolleys, visits Cwmbran on a daily basis.

In March, the firm collected 3,570 dumped trolleys in the town.

A spokeswoman said: “Cwmbran has the highest volume of abandoned trolleys in Torfaen.

“We are in the area everyday collecting to keep on top of it and we receive a lot of complaints about abandoned trolleys in the area.”

Of the trolleys dumped in March, 2,642 were from Asda, while 484 were from Marks and Spencer, 363 from Wilkinson, 61 from Homebase and 20 from Sainsbury’s.

One of the problem areas within Cwmbran is the Northville estate.

Trolleywise collected 29 Asda trolleys in one day last week.

It also saw eight Aldi trolleys, three Morrisons, two Lidl and one from B&Q.

But the company is not authorised to pick these up as they are the responsibility of the stores.

Mary Millar, 73, has lived on Mead Lane, in the Northville estate, for 15 years.

She said that she has never seen such a mess on her road, which has included 12 trolleys.

The pile emerged after Christmas.

And following a complaint to the land’s owners Bron Afon, Trolleywise visited the area and removed the trolleys that they were allowed to.

She said: “I’m sick and ashamed of where I live as it’s so unsightly.”

She explained that people had also started dumping other waste including drinks cans, rugs and general waste on top of the trolleys.

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10:48am Fri 11 Apr 14

Thor at the door says...

This has been a problem in Southville too. Trolleys are dumped anywhere and everywhere, it makes the place look more of a dump than it already is due to all the litter thrown everywhere by the kids and the ignorant workmen who speed about the place lobbing rubbish out of their windows.

Not only that, but the trolleys provide entertainment for the horrible youth of today, they like nothing better than to sit in the trolleys and push each other around in them, smashing into peoples fences, walls and cars.

Thus causing hard working, council tax paying folk yet more stress and cost.

If the authorities can fine speeding drivers and make their life hell, or fine people for abandoning cars etc... why are the owners of these trolleys not fined?

Also, the litter; why are there not more Police and wardens on the beat to put people in check? This country is a disgrace!!
This has been a problem in Southville too. Trolleys are dumped anywhere and everywhere, it makes the place look more of a dump than it already is due to all the litter thrown everywhere by the kids and the ignorant workmen who speed about the place lobbing rubbish out of their windows. Not only that, but the trolleys provide entertainment for the horrible youth of today, they like nothing better than to sit in the trolleys and push each other around in them, smashing into peoples fences, walls and cars. Thus causing hard working, council tax paying folk yet more stress and cost. If the authorities can fine speeding drivers and make their life hell, or fine people for abandoning cars etc... why are the owners of these trolleys not fined? Also, the litter; why are there not more Police and wardens on the beat to put people in check? This country is a disgrace!! Thor at the door
  • Score: 27

11:25am Fri 11 Apr 14

LC1987 says...

If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates!
If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates! LC1987
  • Score: -40

11:54am Fri 11 Apr 14

welshlady101 says...

LC1987 wrote:
If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates!
Why should the council prvide you with a free bus service??

Get off your backsides or get a job, maybe then a car like the rest of us have to!!
Every time Ive been to this area its been full of chavs walking the streets in their pjs!!
[quote][p][bold]LC1987[/bold] wrote: If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates![/p][/quote]Why should the council prvide you with a free bus service?? Get off your backsides or get a job, maybe then a car like the rest of us have to!! Every time Ive been to this area its been full of chavs walking the streets in their pjs!! welshlady101
  • Score: 63

12:20pm Fri 11 Apr 14

squirrelchez says...

LC1987 wrote:
If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates!
Firstly, why should the council provide a free bus service? Most people have 2 things called legs which do a mighty fine job if you can be bothered to use them!!
Secondly, if you have enough shopping that you need help getting it home, gladly borrow a trolley - but Northville is hardly miles from the town centre - you couldn't get any closer!! People are just too lazy to take them back. That isn't the fault of the council - that is the fault of lazy slobs!
[quote][p][bold]LC1987[/bold] wrote: If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates![/p][/quote]Firstly, why should the council provide a free bus service? Most people have 2 things called legs which do a mighty fine job if you can be bothered to use them!! Secondly, if you have enough shopping that you need help getting it home, gladly borrow a trolley - but Northville is hardly miles from the town centre - you couldn't get any closer!! People are just too lazy to take them back. That isn't the fault of the council - that is the fault of lazy slobs! squirrelchez
  • Score: 60

12:26pm Fri 11 Apr 14

deafbystereo says...

I agree with your comments welshlady.
If somebody chooses to wheel a shopping trolley from the town centre right to your doorstep then take your shopping in your house and take the shopping trolley back to the town centre when you've finished - where's the problem with that?
Oh I know, because you can't be bothered and would rather dump it on a piece of grass in the next street - Nice. Laziness I call it!
You'll all be moaning even more when the supermarkets put in place a system for us to pay more to use their trolleys whilst shopping. It will come because they will have to cover their costs for the increasing amount of trollies that go missing.
I agree with your comments welshlady. If somebody chooses to wheel a shopping trolley from the town centre right to your doorstep then take your shopping in your house and take the shopping trolley back to the town centre when you've finished - where's the problem with that? Oh I know, because you can't be bothered and would rather dump it on a piece of grass in the next street - Nice. Laziness I call it! You'll all be moaning even more when the supermarkets put in place a system for us to pay more to use their trolleys whilst shopping. It will come because they will have to cover their costs for the increasing amount of trollies that go missing. deafbystereo
  • Score: 46

12:56pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Warbles says...

Perhaps the council should also consider a free bus to the local pub, a free bus to visit friends/family ..... and .....
Perhaps the council should also consider a free bus to the local pub, a free bus to visit friends/family ..... and ..... Warbles
  • Score: 33

1:14pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Toothhurty says...

....nannystate again...why should the council provide bus services? Increasing the dependency again......
....nannystate again...why should the council provide bus services? Increasing the dependency again...... Toothhurty
  • Score: 23

1:35pm Fri 11 Apr 14

-trigg- says...

Just thinking outside the box here, but if this particular area has a problem with abandoned shopping trolleys perhaps the council in conjunction with these supermarkets could create a designated trolley drop-off point.

The supermarkets in question could then arrange a regular collection from this location instead of hiring firms to scour the streets for them.
Just thinking outside the box here, but if this particular area has a problem with abandoned shopping trolleys perhaps the council in conjunction with these supermarkets could create a designated trolley drop-off point. The supermarkets in question could then arrange a regular collection from this location instead of hiring firms to scour the streets for them. -trigg-
  • Score: -13

2:08pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Thor at the door says...

What about a free bus to the post office to collect all the hand outs these lazy, nighty wearing, over weight, stinking attitude, tanned, chavanistic, moral-less low lifes get to live off!!
What about a free bus to the post office to collect all the hand outs these lazy, nighty wearing, over weight, stinking attitude, tanned, chavanistic, moral-less low lifes get to live off!! Thor at the door
  • Score: 36

3:42pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Magor says...

I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action.
I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action. Magor
  • Score: 19

4:02pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Cwmbranlady88 says...

Why should the council have to provide transport to and from a supermarket? Ludicrous. Sainsbury's have grates leaving their store which makes it harder for trolleys to go walkabout...then again, these idiots probably can't afford the Sainsburys prices.
Walk with your shopping you lazy imbeciles.
Why should the council have to provide transport to and from a supermarket? Ludicrous. Sainsbury's have grates leaving their store which makes it harder for trolleys to go walkabout...then again, these idiots probably can't afford the Sainsburys prices. Walk with your shopping you lazy imbeciles. Cwmbranlady88
  • Score: 26

5:41pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Evil Flanker says...

welshlady101 wrote:
LC1987 wrote:
If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates!
Why should the council prvide you with a free bus service??

Get off your backsides or get a job, maybe then a car like the rest of us have to!!
Every time Ive been to this area its been full of chavs walking the streets in their pjs!!
TBH, there should be a free bus service, provided by the supermarkets, either that or clean up your trolleys or prevent them leaving your premises.
[quote][p][bold]welshlady101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LC1987[/bold] wrote: If the council offered a supermarket bus trip we wouldn't have such a problem. If you had a free bus service from outside Asda where there is a bus stop that went around Northville and Southville and other problem area with trolleys then this problem would be massively reduced. The buses don't even have to run often just a few set times a day. The biggest problem is buses don't go around these estates leaving people with no transport only 2 options, either push a trolley a few minutes down the road or pay £3.50 for a taxi and for those on a budget they only have 1 option and that's the trolley. Newport offer free bus services certain days of the week from council estates to the supermarket and back. I can't see why torfaen don't do it. The only people to blame here is the council who have refused to help, fund or even organise such services. Surely the trolley collection company get paid to collect the trolleys from somewhere, probably the supermarkets. So why can't the council organise a bus service to go around the streets of these estates![/p][/quote]Why should the council prvide you with a free bus service?? Get off your backsides or get a job, maybe then a car like the rest of us have to!! Every time Ive been to this area its been full of chavs walking the streets in their pjs!![/p][/quote]TBH, there should be a free bus service, provided by the supermarkets, either that or clean up your trolleys or prevent them leaving your premises. Evil Flanker
  • Score: -20

8:29pm Fri 11 Apr 14

bugsy93 says...

Get the scrap man to take them away. When the supermarkets see the cost of replacing them they will come running to collect them soon enough.
Get the scrap man to take them away. When the supermarkets see the cost of replacing them they will come running to collect them soon enough. bugsy93
  • Score: -4

8:43pm Fri 11 Apr 14

gwentexiles says...

Maybe they could try giving a free can of cider or 10 fags for every trolley returned that should do the trick!
Maybe they could try giving a free can of cider or 10 fags for every trolley returned that should do the trick! gwentexiles
  • Score: 12

9:28pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Button123 says...

Although I can appreciate it must be vert annoying to the residents, are there really 3000 a month ? Didn't realise that the supermarkets in the area had that many. You would thin that the shop wouldn't have any trolleys left to use !!!
Although I can appreciate it must be vert annoying to the residents, are there really 3000 a month ? Didn't realise that the supermarkets in the area had that many. You would thin that the shop wouldn't have any trolleys left to use !!! Button123
  • Score: 7

10:02pm Fri 11 Apr 14

keithbob says...

surely the answer is what some supermarkets do,if you take the trolley outside the line,the brake is applied?,sure its tescos.?
surely the answer is what some supermarkets do,if you take the trolley outside the line,the brake is applied?,sure its tescos.? keithbob
  • Score: 4

3:35am Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I posted TWO very good comments today. One just now and one earlier this morning and I lost both of them. WHAT happened? I wasn't rude or heated to upset people. They were very useful. I AM Logged in or I wouldn't have got this notice to tell me to make a comment.
I posted TWO very good comments today. One just now and one earlier this morning and I lost both of them. WHAT happened? I wasn't rude or heated to upset people. They were very useful. I AM Logged in or I wouldn't have got this notice to tell me to make a comment. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -10

3:40am Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I'll try again tomorrow! I hate repeating myself immediately, after putting all that time into my contribution.
I'll try again tomorrow! I hate repeating myself immediately, after putting all that time into my contribution. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -7

10:20am Sat 12 Apr 14

Aeronwyn says...

If there was a bus service it would have to be put on by supermarkets, and I doubt it would be worth it given the close proximity to Asda and Morrisons from Northville. I'd like to see Aldi and Morrisons sign up for regular collections; Morrisons in particular tend to just send some poor member of staff off to collect them. I'd like to see designated bays for trolleys around the estate too - though as many I've had this conversation with have pointed out, chances are people wouldn't push the trolleys to those either...
If there was a bus service it would have to be put on by supermarkets, and I doubt it would be worth it given the close proximity to Asda and Morrisons from Northville. I'd like to see Aldi and Morrisons sign up for regular collections; Morrisons in particular tend to just send some poor member of staff off to collect them. I'd like to see designated bays for trolleys around the estate too - though as many I've had this conversation with have pointed out, chances are people wouldn't push the trolleys to those either... Aeronwyn
  • Score: -6

7:29pm Sat 12 Apr 14

indy2012 says...

Magor wrote:
I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action.
Police to busy queuing to get sandwiches from Willis the butcher Llanyravon.
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action.[/p][/quote]Police to busy queuing to get sandwiches from Willis the butcher Llanyravon. indy2012
  • Score: 2

7:52pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

This ia a TEST to see if my Comments get Posted.
This ia a TEST to see if my Comments get Posted. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -10

8:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I gove up! I spent lots of my time doing a polite and helpful comment only to lose it. . . AGAIN!!! This one will be posted though. I don't know why!
Sorry folks! I was trying to HELP!!
I gove up! I spent lots of my time doing a polite and helpful comment only to lose it. . . AGAIN!!! This one will be posted though. I don't know why! Sorry folks! I was trying to HELP!! Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -10

8:56pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Dave Angel says...

indy2012 wrote:
Magor wrote:
I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action.
Police to busy queuing to get sandwiches from Willis the butcher Llanyravon.
Thereby lies the answer, get the police to get their sandwiches from Willis the Butcher shop in the town centre, they can return the trolleys at the same time. Asda should also get the police to assist returning their trolleys, after all Cwmbran CSO's go there every morning for their discount breakfast in the staff canteen. Oops sorry I hope Mr Johnson doesn't read these posts or he will have them out working keeping down the anti social behaviour of our local youths in Northville.
[quote][p][bold]indy2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: I thought removing a trolley from the supermarkets property was theft.About time the Police took action.[/p][/quote]Police to busy queuing to get sandwiches from Willis the butcher Llanyravon.[/p][/quote]Thereby lies the answer, get the police to get their sandwiches from Willis the Butcher shop in the town centre, they can return the trolleys at the same time. Asda should also get the police to assist returning their trolleys, after all Cwmbran CSO's go there every morning for their discount breakfast in the staff canteen. Oops sorry I hope Mr Johnson doesn't read these posts or he will have them out working keeping down the anti social behaviour of our local youths in Northville. Dave Angel
  • Score: 2

11:40pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I'll try again but keep it brief.
What I was trying to say is, there is a Brilliant system I saw on TV a while back, that used Moneybox Locks on the trollies. ALL the trollies are locked together, and to free one, you must DEPOSIT a Q1 or Q2 (QUID! Sorry! no Pound Symbol) in the Slot. After you've done your shopping, you take the trolly back( Unless you're lazy and havem more money than brains), and when its locked back into the others, you get your Money back.
However, as I also said, there are no doubt still those who arre lazy and can't be bothered, or have more money than brains, and that leaves the ideal opportunity for Kids or anyone else in need of a few bob to earn. THEY can round them up and return them and make quite a bit of moolah from the deal.
If those trollies in Mrs. Millar's place (Above) were fitted with these Locks, she's got about Q20-Q30 worth of trollies there. She could lock them all together and collect the Loot, and the Trolly collectors just come to collect them. To free them, they have a special key.
Waddaya think of that? Its Win Win for Everyone.
I'll try again but keep it brief. What I was trying to say is, there is a Brilliant system I saw on TV a while back, that used Moneybox Locks on the trollies. ALL the trollies are locked together, and to free one, you must DEPOSIT a Q1 or Q2 (QUID! Sorry! no Pound Symbol) in the Slot. After you've done your shopping, you take the trolly back( Unless you're lazy and havem more money than brains), and when its locked back into the others, you get your Money back. However, as I also said, there are no doubt still those who arre lazy and can't be bothered, or have more money than brains, and that leaves the ideal opportunity for Kids or anyone else in need of a few bob to earn. THEY can round them up and return them and make quite a bit of moolah from the deal. If those trollies in Mrs. Millar's place (Above) were fitted with these Locks, she's got about Q20-Q30 worth of trollies there. She could lock them all together and collect the Loot, and the Trolly collectors just come to collect them. To free them, they have a special key. Waddaya think of that? Its Win Win for Everyone. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -9

11:51pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

Also, what I was trying to say was, our local New World Supermarket, here in Turangi, New Zealand, has some of those trollies with Plastic Brake Boxes fitted to them. The Premises is surrounded with an underground Sensor (Cable of some kind, I presume), and anyone attempting to remove a trolley for the grounds activates the brake which is simply a Shoe which falls down under the wheel. To free it briefly, you must pull a Lever down with your foot to pull the Shoe Pad from under the wheel so you can move it. To really lock it back, an assistant uses a Special Key .
However, as usual, there are some people who are very persistant, and they have, at first, taken to lifting the trolley over the line to avoid tripping the brake. Then they got bolder and just smashed the side plate off the box and stripped the guts of it out. Later, they just smashed the whole box off.
Recently, New World has bought some new trollies without the brakes altogether. I guess they got sick of the expense of replacing all the smashed or lost brake boxes.
I think the Money Box Lock is best. Either YOU get YOUR Money back, or someone else WILL if you're too lazy or "rich" to bother returning the trollies.
Thank You for your time.
Also, what I was trying to say was, our local New World Supermarket, here in Turangi, New Zealand, has some of those trollies with Plastic Brake Boxes fitted to them. The Premises is surrounded with an underground Sensor (Cable of some kind, I presume), and anyone attempting to remove a trolley for the grounds activates the brake which is simply a Shoe which falls down under the wheel. To free it briefly, you must pull a Lever down with your foot to pull the Shoe Pad from under the wheel so you can move it. To really lock it back, an assistant uses a Special Key . However, as usual, there are some people who are very persistant, and they have, at first, taken to lifting the trolley over the line to avoid tripping the brake. Then they got bolder and just smashed the side plate off the box and stripped the guts of it out. Later, they just smashed the whole box off. Recently, New World has bought some new trollies without the brakes altogether. I guess they got sick of the expense of replacing all the smashed or lost brake boxes. I think the Money Box Lock is best. Either YOU get YOUR Money back, or someone else WILL if you're too lazy or "rich" to bother returning the trollies. Thank You for your time. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -7

11:55pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

That's better! Maybe my Comments were just too long! Sorry about that!
Have a great weekend!
That's better! Maybe my Comments were just too long! Sorry about that! Have a great weekend! Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: -6

6:05am Sun 13 Apr 14

Woodgnome says...

As ASDA has the biggest attrition rate - then ASDA should do the most about the rate of trolley theft. The problem can be caused by only 2 elements - either the character of some of ASDA customers or the failure of ASDA to take measures to prevent it. Either way it's ASDA's problem to sort out.
As ASDA has the biggest attrition rate - then ASDA should do the most about the rate of trolley theft. The problem can be caused by only 2 elements - either the character of some of ASDA customers or the failure of ASDA to take measures to prevent it. Either way it's ASDA's problem to sort out. Woodgnome
  • Score: -2

10:13am Sun 13 Apr 14

squirrelchez says...

Paul F. McCourt wrote:
I'll try again but keep it brief.
What I was trying to say is, there is a Brilliant system I saw on TV a while back, that used Moneybox Locks on the trollies. ALL the trollies are locked together, and to free one, you must DEPOSIT a Q1 or Q2 (QUID! Sorry! no Pound Symbol) in the Slot. After you've done your shopping, you take the trolly back( Unless you're lazy and havem more money than brains), and when its locked back into the others, you get your Money back.
However, as I also said, there are no doubt still those who arre lazy and can't be bothered, or have more money than brains, and that leaves the ideal opportunity for Kids or anyone else in need of a few bob to earn. THEY can round them up and return them and make quite a bit of moolah from the deal.
If those trollies in Mrs. Millar's place (Above) were fitted with these Locks, she's got about Q20-Q30 worth of trollies there. She could lock them all together and collect the Loot, and the Trolly collectors just come to collect them. To free them, they have a special key.
Waddaya think of that? Its Win Win for Everyone.
Most trolleys already need a £1 coin or a token but there are ways around it. 1) if you know one of the trolley boys who can use their key to get you a trolley without you needing a coin,
2) in places like Aldi, if you don't have a coin/token, you can ask the staff for £1 out of the till. For these people, if they don't take the trolley back, they haven't lost anything anyway - though the store is down by £1 each time.
[quote][p][bold]Paul F. McCourt[/bold] wrote: I'll try again but keep it brief. What I was trying to say is, there is a Brilliant system I saw on TV a while back, that used Moneybox Locks on the trollies. ALL the trollies are locked together, and to free one, you must DEPOSIT a Q1 or Q2 (QUID! Sorry! no Pound Symbol) in the Slot. After you've done your shopping, you take the trolly back( Unless you're lazy and havem more money than brains), and when its locked back into the others, you get your Money back. However, as I also said, there are no doubt still those who arre lazy and can't be bothered, or have more money than brains, and that leaves the ideal opportunity for Kids or anyone else in need of a few bob to earn. THEY can round them up and return them and make quite a bit of moolah from the deal. If those trollies in Mrs. Millar's place (Above) were fitted with these Locks, she's got about Q20-Q30 worth of trollies there. She could lock them all together and collect the Loot, and the Trolly collectors just come to collect them. To free them, they have a special key. Waddaya think of that? Its Win Win for Everyone.[/p][/quote]Most trolleys already need a £1 coin or a token but there are ways around it. 1) if you know one of the trolley boys who can use their key to get you a trolley without you needing a coin, 2) in places like Aldi, if you don't have a coin/token, you can ask the staff for £1 out of the till. For these people, if they don't take the trolley back, they haven't lost anything anyway - though the store is down by £1 each time. squirrelchez
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7:44pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Lizwerry says...

Years ago my dad designed a simple electronic brake that was activated once a trolley had left a designated area, ie a town centre perimeter, rendering them useless but the big shopping companies weren't interested. They surely have to take some of the blame for this although I admit it is mainly down to lazy people who can't be bothered to return the trollies after they have used them to take their shopping home.
Perhaps if the police took a more proactive role......
Years ago my dad designed a simple electronic brake that was activated once a trolley had left a designated area, ie a town centre perimeter, rendering them useless but the big shopping companies weren't interested. They surely have to take some of the blame for this although I admit it is mainly down to lazy people who can't be bothered to return the trollies after they have used them to take their shopping home. Perhaps if the police took a more proactive role...... Lizwerry
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9:41pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I've just spent time doing a rreply to SqirrelChez's reply, and I LOST it! AGAIN!
PLEASE! How about a Character Countdown so we know when we're running out of Characters? It will avoid any inconvenience to those caught out, like me.
Thank You.
I've just spent time doing a rreply to SqirrelChez's reply, and I LOST it! AGAIN! PLEASE! How about a Character Countdown so we know when we're running out of Characters? It will avoid any inconvenience to those caught out, like me. Thank You. Paul F. McCourt
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12:48am Mon 14 Apr 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

G'day SquirrelChez,
I'm tryuing again. You say here that some places already use Coinbox Locks on their trollies? That's very good to hear, but, also what you say here is, they may have solved the problem, but due to STAFF laziness, this time, they're created a NEW problem.
Forget using Tokens!! They should use 2 Pound Coins. Afterall its THEIR Money. Theirs to Unlock the trolley, and THEIRS when they return it. By being lazy and getting some lazy STAFF member to give them a Coin, that's defeating the purpose. These staff members should be sacked. No Coins? NO Trolley! Its as somple as that.
IF anyone has no coins, all they have to do is get change from a Fiver. There should be a Special Counter just for this purpose, and a TRUSTED Staff Member attending it so there's nothing shifty going on.
It WILL Work! It SHOULD work!
G'day SquirrelChez, I'm tryuing again. You say here that some places already use Coinbox Locks on their trollies? That's very good to hear, but, also what you say here is, they may have solved the problem, but due to STAFF laziness, this time, they're created a NEW problem. Forget using Tokens!! They should use 2 Pound Coins. Afterall its THEIR Money. Theirs to Unlock the trolley, and THEIRS when they return it. By being lazy and getting some lazy STAFF member to give them a Coin, that's defeating the purpose. These staff members should be sacked. No Coins? NO Trolley! Its as somple as that. IF anyone has no coins, all they have to do is get change from a Fiver. There should be a Special Counter just for this purpose, and a TRUSTED Staff Member attending it so there's nothing shifty going on. It WILL Work! It SHOULD work! Paul F. McCourt
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8:31am Mon 14 Apr 14

squirrelchez says...

Paul F. McCourt wrote:
G'day SquirrelChez,
I'm tryuing again. You say here that some places already use Coinbox Locks on their trollies? That's very good to hear, but, also what you say here is, they may have solved the problem, but due to STAFF laziness, this time, they're created a NEW problem.
Forget using Tokens!! They should use 2 Pound Coins. Afterall its THEIR Money. Theirs to Unlock the trolley, and THEIRS when they return it. By being lazy and getting some lazy STAFF member to give them a Coin, that's defeating the purpose. These staff members should be sacked. No Coins? NO Trolley! Its as somple as that.
IF anyone has no coins, all they have to do is get change from a Fiver. There should be a Special Counter just for this purpose, and a TRUSTED Staff Member attending it so there's nothing shifty going on.
It WILL Work! It SHOULD work!
Totally agree - only problem would be there'd probably be people saying it was "against their human rights" not to have a trolley given to them because they didn't have a coin - or some other similar rubbish!! (I'm not a fan of the Himan Rights Act as it only seems to profit criminals and those who shouldn't have any rights!)
If all else fails, take away the trolley and make people carry their shopping around the supermarket - they'll learn to respect it then!
[quote][p][bold]Paul F. McCourt[/bold] wrote: G'day SquirrelChez, I'm tryuing again. You say here that some places already use Coinbox Locks on their trollies? That's very good to hear, but, also what you say here is, they may have solved the problem, but due to STAFF laziness, this time, they're created a NEW problem. Forget using Tokens!! They should use 2 Pound Coins. Afterall its THEIR Money. Theirs to Unlock the trolley, and THEIRS when they return it. By being lazy and getting some lazy STAFF member to give them a Coin, that's defeating the purpose. These staff members should be sacked. No Coins? NO Trolley! Its as somple as that. IF anyone has no coins, all they have to do is get change from a Fiver. There should be a Special Counter just for this purpose, and a TRUSTED Staff Member attending it so there's nothing shifty going on. It WILL Work! It SHOULD work![/p][/quote]Totally agree - only problem would be there'd probably be people saying it was "against their human rights" not to have a trolley given to them because they didn't have a coin - or some other similar rubbish!! (I'm not a fan of the Himan Rights Act as it only seems to profit criminals and those who shouldn't have any rights!) If all else fails, take away the trolley and make people carry their shopping around the supermarket - they'll learn to respect it then! squirrelchez
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