PCC Ian Johnston says Gwent crime statistics now "reflecting actual crime"

PCC Ian Johnston says Gwent crime statistics now

PCC Ian Johnston says Gwent crime statistics now "reflecting actual crime"

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NEW figures showing a two per cent increase in crime in Gwent reflect "actual" crime levels in Gwent.

That's according to police and crime commissioner Ian Johnston who said he's happy with the direction the force is taking over crime recording.

Back in May 2013 the PCC threw doubt over published crime stats - saying police may not have been recording crimes properly in a bid to lower crime figures.

But it appears that the PCC has now dropped his concerns over the issue, which had led to a public row with the former chief constable Carmel Napier.

As reported by the Argus today, violent offences recorded by Gwent Police rose by more than a quarter in 2013 while overall crimes rose by two per cent.

The percentage rise in violent crime was the highest in England and Wales, and Gwent was the only force in Wales to record a rise in crime.

Mr Johnston said: "I believe the report announced today accurately reflects the ‘actual’ levels of crime here in Gwent.”

He said: "I am more concerned about the quality of service the public receive than numerical targets. As a result, I have started to see a number of changes in the way the police force is delivering its service here in Gwent which includes a complete move away from the emphasis on targets and numbers that has driven policing in the past.

"The feedback I’ve received from members of the public about the positive change in attitude of police officers when dealing with crime has been very encouraging. With the move away from numerical targets, the indication is that the public in Gwent now believe there has been a refocus on the quality of service provided to them.

"Since the Chief Constable [Jeff Farrar] conducted an internal review into crime recording last year, it has made it perfectly clear to everyone in the force that ethical and accurate crime recording is essential to provide the public with confidence in the service and I’m happy with the direction the force is now taking."

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2:28pm Thu 24 Apr 14

kez1968 says...

As we have seen in the 'plebgate' row between Andrew Mitchell and the police, how honest our police force actually is, so what the commissioner says is all well and good, although I will take it with a very large pinch of salt.
As we have seen in the 'plebgate' row between Andrew Mitchell and the police, how honest our police force actually is, so what the commissioner says is all well and good, although I will take it with a very large pinch of salt. kez1968
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Thu 24 Apr 14

davidcp says...

kez1968 wrote:
As we have seen in the 'plebgate' row between Andrew Mitchell and the police, how honest our police force actually is, so what the commissioner says is all well and good, although I will take it with a very large pinch of salt.
Yes, three police officers from the West Mids played politics without the experience and training that politicians have been provided for 'lying', and now 'The Police' - all 140,000ish of them - are the same. Pleb.
[quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: As we have seen in the 'plebgate' row between Andrew Mitchell and the police, how honest our police force actually is, so what the commissioner says is all well and good, although I will take it with a very large pinch of salt.[/p][/quote]Yes, three police officers from the West Mids played politics without the experience and training that politicians have been provided for 'lying', and now 'The Police' - all 140,000ish of them - are the same. Pleb. davidcp
  • Score: 6

10:28pm Thu 24 Apr 14

regaturn says...

Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?
Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it? regaturn
  • Score: 3

10:33pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mr Bump. says...

regaturn wrote:
Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?
I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.
[quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?[/p][/quote]I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote. Mr Bump.
  • Score: -6

6:34am Fri 25 Apr 14

Woodgnome says...

Let's hope that Mr Johnson does something about bringing down crime instead of number crunching.
Let's hope that Mr Johnson does something about bringing down crime instead of number crunching. Woodgnome
  • Score: 4

9:09am Fri 25 Apr 14

regaturn says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
regaturn wrote:
Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?
I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.
How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?[/p][/quote]I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.[/p][/quote]How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became. regaturn
  • Score: 15

10:27am Fri 25 Apr 14

Crossbenchtory says...

Bearing in mind that it has been alleged that the previous hierarchy of the Gwent Force was "cooking the books" regarding violent crime figures it is hardly surprising that the numbers show an increase in violent crime for the period immediately after the departure of certain people.

It remains to be seen what Mr Johnson now does to address these, potentially, more accurate crime statistics.
Bearing in mind that it has been alleged that the previous hierarchy of the Gwent Force was "cooking the books" regarding violent crime figures it is hardly surprising that the numbers show an increase in violent crime for the period immediately after the departure of certain people. It remains to be seen what Mr Johnson now does to address these, potentially, more accurate crime statistics. Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Fri 25 Apr 14

davidcp says...

Woodgnome wrote:
Let's hope that Mr Johnson does something about bringing down crime instead of number crunching.
How will we know it's down if we don't count it....?
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: Let's hope that Mr Johnson does something about bringing down crime instead of number crunching.[/p][/quote]How will we know it's down if we don't count it....? davidcp
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Fri 25 Apr 14

The Red Claw says...

regaturn wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
regaturn wrote:
Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?
I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.
How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became.
There is yet another angle to this. If the previously reported crime figures were not accurate, through mistake, malice, or both, could this mean that the public and police officers in Gwent were denied resources, funding and equipment over the last few years that may have significantly impacted on the policing of the county? Were these resources instead allocated to a more accurately reporting force which would have appeared to have far greater need of them?
[quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?[/p][/quote]I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.[/p][/quote]How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became.[/p][/quote]There is yet another angle to this. If the previously reported crime figures were not accurate, through mistake, malice, or both, could this mean that the public and police officers in Gwent were denied resources, funding and equipment over the last few years that may have significantly impacted on the policing of the county? Were these resources instead allocated to a more accurately reporting force which would have appeared to have far greater need of them? The Red Claw
  • Score: 1

6:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

The Red Claw says...

regaturn wrote:
Mr Bump. wrote:
regaturn wrote:
Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?
I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.
How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became.
Yes, we can only now speculate as to why her then management team allowed the matter to develop to such a crisis point that only Mr Johnston's timely intervention could deal with it. If officers were being pressurised, then they deserved far more support than it appears they were given.
[quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]regaturn[/bold] wrote: Could the Argus approach Carmel and see what she has to say about it?[/p][/quote]I hope she stands against him next time. She'll have my vote.[/p][/quote]How quickly people forget. Carmel pressurised officers to under record, and then had the nerve to claim a bonus when the crime figures showed a reduction.At least Mr Johnston quickly addressed the failure that Carmel became.[/p][/quote]Yes, we can only now speculate as to why her then management team allowed the matter to develop to such a crisis point that only Mr Johnston's timely intervention could deal with it. If officers were being pressurised, then they deserved far more support than it appears they were given. The Red Claw
  • Score: 8

1:54pm Sun 27 Apr 14

gingertom says...

In newbridge the crime problem is mostly down to drugs a number of people are selling and loads are on them.
This methodone programme to get people off is no good. They get five star treatment in the chemist jumping the queue in front of everyone and the same characters have been on this programme for years. It is a farce!
In newbridge the crime problem is mostly down to drugs a number of people are selling and loads are on them. This methodone programme to get people off is no good. They get five star treatment in the chemist jumping the queue in front of everyone and the same characters have been on this programme for years. It is a farce! gingertom
  • Score: 2

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