Newport not hitting recycling targets - despite smaller bins

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SMALLER bins have helped reduce waste and increase recycling in Newport, but the city is still falling short of its targets, a scrutiny committee heard yesterday.

Presented with a report on Waste Recycling, the street scene, regeneration and safety scrutiny committee heard the council missed its recycling targets for 2013/14.

Newport is currently in line to meet 52 per cent recycling this year. For 2015/16, the target is 58 per cent.

Both targets- the European Landfill diversion target and the Welsh Government target, carry a £200 per tonne fine for failing.

Chair of the committee, councillor Roger Jeavons said: “If we don’t meet these targets, there are consequences. The cost implications are passed down to the council tax payer.”

But the introduction of smaller 180 litre bins has been a part in the reduction of residual waste and increase in recycling in the city. There has been a 15 per cent increase in plastic recycling since the new bins were introduced.

Cllr Paul Hannon said awareness of the importance of recycling for Newport as a city, would incentivise people to recycle. He said: “A lot of people work in the waste industry in Newport. It’s an important part of the local economy.”

Cllr Paul Huntley voiced concerns about the 25-30 per cent of Newport households not recycling at all. He said: “I would consider some form of enforcement to make them recycle.”

Cllr Matthew Evans said there was a risk of there being “too much for people to take in” with the increasing need for people to separate and sort their recycling.

The long term proposals set out by the report were to meet the two different targets and to contine to provide quality low cost services.

The committee agreed education and engagement was vital to future developments and improvements in recycling. The report stated higher levels of enforcement and education carried out by other authorities had proven effective, but that a lack of funding and resources meant Newport hadn’t been able to implement such programmes.

Councillors Paul Huntley and Tom Bond voiced interest in forming part of a sub-group to look at the recycling issues and report back to the main committee.

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5:28pm Tue 29 Apr 14

sooty001 says...

For many years I have been asking for a bin to recycle my cardboard ( I and my 13 neighbours have lots of cardboard which goes in the green bin and then to landfill ) I was told repeatedly that because we do not have gardens we cannot have one.We try our best when it comes to recycling but when you are met by some jobsworth who tells you that you cannot have a bin because you have not got a garden,it makes you wonder why the council are not meeting their targets.
For many years I have been asking for a bin to recycle my cardboard ( I and my 13 neighbours have lots of cardboard which goes in the green bin and then to landfill ) I was told repeatedly that because we do not have gardens we cannot have one.We try our best when it comes to recycling but when you are met by some jobsworth who tells you that you cannot have a bin because you have not got a garden,it makes you wonder why the council are not meeting their targets. sooty001
  • Score: 39

5:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Newport-1 says...

I'm not surprised that the targets have not been met, I lived in a flat for over a year, where nobody had access to recycling facilities. Absolutely nothing was provided except communal bins that were so full the council had to get a private company to remove them, as the bin men wouldn't (and I don't blame them).
I'm not surprised that the targets have not been met, I lived in a flat for over a year, where nobody had access to recycling facilities. Absolutely nothing was provided except communal bins that were so full the council had to get a private company to remove them, as the bin men wouldn't (and I don't blame them). Newport-1
  • Score: 28

6:17pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Maff says...

Why not just have one bin for recycling like Cearphilly would be nice to see there %
Why not just have one bin for recycling like Cearphilly would be nice to see there % Maff
  • Score: 10

6:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

cath 872 says...

Maff wrote:
Why not just have one bin for recycling like Cearphilly would be nice to see there %
Yes, we have a large green bin, a small blue one, and a small green one. And a brown one, to put in a bigger brown one. In the big brown bin we have to put food wrapped in a green bag, and tied. Oh yes, almost forgot - we will soon be getting a green cloth bin for cardboard. It's enough to make me cry...
[quote][p][bold]Maff[/bold] wrote: Why not just have one bin for recycling like Cearphilly would be nice to see there %[/p][/quote]Yes, we have a large green bin, a small blue one, and a small green one. And a brown one, to put in a bigger brown one. In the big brown bin we have to put food wrapped in a green bag, and tied. Oh yes, almost forgot - we will soon be getting a green cloth bin for cardboard. It's enough to make me cry... cath 872
  • Score: 20

7:37pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thor at the door says...

Even when you do take the time and effort to met all the imposed requirments of the council, the jesters who come to collect it are so pedantic that if something is not to their liking, rather than just take it, they leave it!

Only today we put cardboard in e blue box, but they did not take it!!! Total idiots!!

Failing that, they always manage to leave more litter in the street than the kids!!

In Spain, they have massive bins in every street, you even leave wardrobes out! They collect the rubbish every night, yes, every night!!! No fuss, no fines, no letters!!

Then someone is paid to sort out the rubbish for recycle, not the tax payer! Not only that, in Spain it's 37 euro per year for the service !!!!!

Newport council is a disgrace!!!!!!!!!
Even when you do take the time and effort to met all the imposed requirments of the council, the jesters who come to collect it are so pedantic that if something is not to their liking, rather than just take it, they leave it! Only today we put cardboard in e blue box, but they did not take it!!! Total idiots!! Failing that, they always manage to leave more litter in the street than the kids!! In Spain, they have massive bins in every street, you even leave wardrobes out! They collect the rubbish every night, yes, every night!!! No fuss, no fines, no letters!! Then someone is paid to sort out the rubbish for recycle, not the tax payer! Not only that, in Spain it's 37 euro per year for the service !!!!! Newport council is a disgrace!!!!!!!!! Thor at the door
  • Score: 33

8:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

blackandamber says...

The biggest obstacle to recycling in Newport is the recycling centre.
The biggest obstacle to recycling in Newport is the recycling centre. blackandamber
  • Score: 16

8:04pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

Cllr Paul Huntley voiced concerns about the 25-30 per cent of Newport households not recycling at all. He said: “I would consider some form of enforcement to make them recycle.”
He obviously hasn't read the council's own Sustainable Waste Plan 2013

http://www.newport.g
ov.uk/stellent/group
s/public/documents/r
eport/cont711407.pdf


'The Council has several policy drivers regarding waste enforcement and whilst recognising the importance of education in changing behaviour, enforcement remains a strong deterrent against non-participation in recycling schemes.'
Cllr Paul Huntley voiced concerns about the 25-30 per cent of Newport households not recycling at all. He said: “I would consider some form of enforcement to make them recycle.” He obviously hasn't read the council's own Sustainable Waste Plan 2013 http://www.newport.g ov.uk/stellent/group s/public/documents/r eport/cont711407.pdf 'The Council has several policy drivers regarding waste enforcement and whilst recognising the importance of education in changing behaviour, enforcement remains a strong deterrent against non-participation in recycling schemes.' Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 1

8:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live.....
......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live..... Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 5

8:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

Dave on his Soapbox wrote:
......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live.....
It seems to me he councils are issuing boxes willy nilly (or not!), and then not emptying them because no-one knows what goes in which box. I have ONE small blue box, and ONE small bin, that's it. Putting stuff in a plastic bag saw it kicked around the street. There was a note from the council that there are 25 different plastics they won't accept and many of those are wrappers we get food in and cosmetics. How the hell do We know which plastic is which, and, who takes them if the council won't ? none will take cardboard of any kind. Ideally we would not faff about at all this and demand manufacturers only use bio-degradable wrapping and containers. But that's too simple isn't it. What bothers me, is we still produce the same amount of waste and type, if it isn't being recycled then where is it going ?
[quote][p][bold]Dave on his Soapbox[/bold] wrote: ......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live.....[/p][/quote]It seems to me he councils are issuing boxes willy nilly (or not!), and then not emptying them because no-one knows what goes in which box. I have ONE small blue box, and ONE small bin, that's it. Putting stuff in a plastic bag saw it kicked around the street. There was a note from the council that there are 25 different plastics they won't accept and many of those are wrappers we get food in and cosmetics. How the hell do We know which plastic is which, and, who takes them if the council won't ? none will take cardboard of any kind. Ideally we would not faff about at all this and demand manufacturers only use bio-degradable wrapping and containers. But that's too simple isn't it. What bothers me, is we still produce the same amount of waste and type, if it isn't being recycled then where is it going ? Mervyn James
  • Score: 7

10:37pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Votefornoneoftheabove says...

I have had one of the new smaller bins and I still recycle as much as I always have, however the new smaller bin does not take the waste now for my family of five adults so we have to go to the tip once a fortnight, at a cost but get no council tax discount.

I cannot recycle anymore that I do, yet I along with other families suffer because Councillor Huntley says 25-30% of people do not recycle.

If the Councillor knows the figures then he must know who does not recycle, why did the council not target this group before spending £800 thousand on new bins, complete and utter misuse of public money.

Sounds as if the council want to go down the path of the Gwynedd and Falkirk councils and impose three weekly bin collection services on Newport, well done Labour can't wait for you to knock the door asking for my vote!
I have had one of the new smaller bins and I still recycle as much as I always have, however the new smaller bin does not take the waste now for my family of five adults so we have to go to the tip once a fortnight, at a cost but get no council tax discount. I cannot recycle anymore that I do, yet I along with other families suffer because Councillor Huntley says 25-30% of people do not recycle. If the Councillor knows the figures then he must know who does not recycle, why did the council not target this group before spending £800 thousand on new bins, complete and utter misuse of public money. Sounds as if the council want to go down the path of the Gwynedd and Falkirk councils and impose three weekly bin collection services on Newport, well done Labour can't wait for you to knock the door asking for my vote! Votefornoneoftheabove
  • Score: 19

10:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Independentvoter says...

Maybe the council should continue forcing our pensioners and severely disabled people in Newport to sort, grade and wash their waste more effectively to maker even greater profits for Wastesavers managing director - How much does he take home in wages ???? Now if you work out that cardboard is approx £800 per tonne and alluminium is £1,200 per tonne how many tonnes do our pensioners have to sort and grade before the managing director gets paid ??? Sad old Newport - Wake up people !
Maybe the council should continue forcing our pensioners and severely disabled people in Newport to sort, grade and wash their waste more effectively to maker even greater profits for Wastesavers managing director - How much does he take home in wages ???? Now if you work out that cardboard is approx £800 per tonne and alluminium is £1,200 per tonne how many tonnes do our pensioners have to sort and grade before the managing director gets paid ??? Sad old Newport - Wake up people ! Independentvoter
  • Score: 7

10:53pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Independentvoter says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Maybe the council should continue forcing our pensioners and severely disabled people in Newport to sort, grade and wash their waste more effectively to maker even greater profits for Wastesavers managing director - How much does he take home in wages ???? Now if you work out that cardboard is approx £800 per tonne and alluminium is £1,200 per tonne how many tonnes do our pensioners have to sort and grade before the managing director gets paid ??? Sad old Newport - Wake up people !
"make"
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Maybe the council should continue forcing our pensioners and severely disabled people in Newport to sort, grade and wash their waste more effectively to maker even greater profits for Wastesavers managing director - How much does he take home in wages ???? Now if you work out that cardboard is approx £800 per tonne and alluminium is £1,200 per tonne how many tonnes do our pensioners have to sort and grade before the managing director gets paid ??? Sad old Newport - Wake up people ![/p][/quote]"make" Independentvoter
  • Score: -3

1:08am Wed 30 Apr 14

Howie' says...

Dave on his Soapbox wrote:
......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live.....
Vote UKIP so we don't have to recycle eh? Not sure that any political system would stop recycling but would be good if the Council explained better and did not try to coerce us at great expense.
[quote][p][bold]Dave on his Soapbox[/bold] wrote: ......another option is to vote UKIP in the forthcoming elections as they will take us out of the EU and it's universal laws that don't always suit the way some countries live.....[/p][/quote]Vote UKIP so we don't have to recycle eh? Not sure that any political system would stop recycling but would be good if the Council explained better and did not try to coerce us at great expense. Howie'
  • Score: 2

7:42am Wed 30 Apr 14

dinnerlady52 says...

This idea of smaller bins to encourage more recycling was a no brainer from the beginning , how do the council expect people to recycle more by giving them a smaller bin , all its encouraged is more fly tipping , and who has to clean that up the council, the streets and roads of Newport are a disgrace to the council who have to take responsibility for this problem, you can walk down any street after the recycling bins have been emptied and the amount of rubbish that is left is laughable , or it would make you cry. Raising council tax to make people sit up and recycle more wont work , the only way to get peoples voices heard is for everyone to stop paying their council tax , we are paying more and getting less, bins emptied once a fortnight , recycling every week if they like the look of whats in your bins , street cleaner if your lucky , that's becoming a post code lottery of where and when streets get swept , and sreet lighting reduced . Don't blame Newport residents blame your local councillors for the mess we are in .
This idea of smaller bins to encourage more recycling was a no brainer from the beginning , how do the council expect people to recycle more by giving them a smaller bin , all its encouraged is more fly tipping , and who has to clean that up the council, the streets and roads of Newport are a disgrace to the council who have to take responsibility for this problem, you can walk down any street after the recycling bins have been emptied and the amount of rubbish that is left is laughable , or it would make you cry. Raising council tax to make people sit up and recycle more wont work , the only way to get peoples voices heard is for everyone to stop paying their council tax , we are paying more and getting less, bins emptied once a fortnight , recycling every week if they like the look of whats in your bins , street cleaner if your lucky , that's becoming a post code lottery of where and when streets get swept , and sreet lighting reduced . Don't blame Newport residents blame your local councillors for the mess we are in . dinnerlady52
  • Score: 16

8:24am Wed 30 Apr 14

Toothhurty says...

The waste saver collectors are no better than the bin police. They dont use any sense if something is in the wrong bin - its labelled 'contaminated'. Surely they know the houses that regularly recycle and can distinguish between an error or something deliberate? I agree with an earlier point - their is so much we cant recycle, somethings are a mindgame - do we? is it?
The waste saver collectors are no better than the bin police. They dont use any sense if something is in the wrong bin - its labelled 'contaminated'. Surely they know the houses that regularly recycle and can distinguish between an error or something deliberate? I agree with an earlier point - their is so much we cant recycle, somethings are a mindgame - do we? is it? Toothhurty
  • Score: 14

8:54am Wed 30 Apr 14

JENKO1965 says...

yeah that's because half the rubbish is dumped in the parks or just left in the streets and to make it worse council vans just drive past it and leave them there
yeah that's because half the rubbish is dumped in the parks or just left in the streets and to make it worse council vans just drive past it and leave them there JENKO1965
  • Score: 5

9:28am Wed 30 Apr 14

inkyskin says...

i want to know who's bright idea it was to have a bag for cardboard, how is it meant to stay put in high winds? at the moment i still have the orange bin for garden waste and cardboard which is near enough full every fortnight, i have a family of 4 and our normal bin is always full even though we recycle, we have 1 recycle box which is always full, we did have 2 but the recycle men kicked it down the path and the end came off and i was told i'd have to pay for another one!..you can't win!
i want to know who's bright idea it was to have a bag for cardboard, how is it meant to stay put in high winds? at the moment i still have the orange bin for garden waste and cardboard which is near enough full every fortnight, i have a family of 4 and our normal bin is always full even though we recycle, we have 1 recycle box which is always full, we did have 2 but the recycle men kicked it down the path and the end came off and i was told i'd have to pay for another one!..you can't win! inkyskin
  • Score: 14

2:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

newporteast says...

A BADLY RUN LABOUR CITY COUNCIL
SAY NO MORE
A BADLY RUN LABOUR CITY COUNCIL SAY NO MORE newporteast
  • Score: 7

4:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bobevans says...

The simple answer is the current scheme is far too complex and wasteful on resource. Councils with a simple 3 bin system are hitting much higher targets
The simple answer is the current scheme is far too complex and wasteful on resource. Councils with a simple 3 bin system are hitting much higher targets Bobevans
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Afghan Hound says...

As an ex Newport boy now living in South Africa I do enjoy reading some of the comments on this site. In the area that I live is the base of acompany called' Wildlands Trust', they set up collection points at every shopping centre over a wide area, most people go shoping at least once a day and take rubbish with them, it costs nothing, the company collects it sorts it and sells it on, the money they make goes towards keeping wild lands wild and clean. The local municipality collect my 'normal' rubbish on a weekly basis. This sort of setup should be looked at by green groups and the like in the U.K. Just to give you an idea of the items they recycle it it easier to say they dont accept used condoms or sanitary towels.
As an ex Newport boy now living in South Africa I do enjoy reading some of the comments on this site. In the area that I live is the base of acompany called' Wildlands Trust', they set up collection points at every shopping centre over a wide area, most people go shoping at least once a day and take rubbish with them, it costs nothing, the company collects it sorts it and sells it on, the money they make goes towards keeping wild lands wild and clean. The local municipality collect my 'normal' rubbish on a weekly basis. This sort of setup should be looked at by green groups and the like in the U.K. Just to give you an idea of the items they recycle it it easier to say they dont accept used condoms or sanitary towels. Afghan Hound
  • Score: 5

8:18pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Ellen G says...

The massive green bag for recycling cardboard is a ridiculous idea - what would have been wrong with asking people to collect their cardboard in any old cardboard box and then putting that outside for collection once full? This would have been a cheaper, common sense option.
And where exactly are people who live in terraced houses supposed to keep these bags? No doubt there'll be plenty of these drifting about the streets of the city centre shortly.
The massive green bag for recycling cardboard is a ridiculous idea - what would have been wrong with asking people to collect their cardboard in any old cardboard box and then putting that outside for collection once full? This would have been a cheaper, common sense option. And where exactly are people who live in terraced houses supposed to keep these bags? No doubt there'll be plenty of these drifting about the streets of the city centre shortly. Ellen G
  • Score: 6

8:21pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

…today I have received my green sack for card board…..and because of another bureaucratic EU directive we can no longer put cardboard and garden waste in the orange lidded bin….along with this the council also provided a covering letter and a bilingual sheet that tells us…..that we can’t recycle (at our doorstep)….
No cling film, crisp packets or cellophane
Tetrakpaks inc. juice, milk and yoghurt oil, drinking glass
No broken glass, cooking oil, drinking glasses, light bulbs, pillows, duvets, plastic bags, Pyrex, tissues, kitchen or toilet roll, wet clothes or textiles or window glass.
Bubble wrap, carrier bags, polystyrene, hard plastics such as flower pots, toys, videos or drain pipes)
So along with anything contaminated with wood matter e.g. microwave chip boxes or other convenience food wrapping (cake boxes) McDonalds drinks cups….. personal hygiene by products…e.g. facial wipes, sanitary waste…dogs/cat waste…the list goes on and on….which is contrary to the council spin that we can recycle almost everything….oh I forgot….as long as you have a car and can drive to the Docks Way tip….and want to queue along with the others who can get down there before 4.15 when it shuts…..
…today I have received my green sack for card board…..and because of another bureaucratic EU directive we can no longer put cardboard and garden waste in the orange lidded bin….along with this the council also provided a covering letter and a bilingual sheet that tells us…..that we can’t recycle (at our doorstep)…. No cling film, crisp packets or cellophane Tetrakpaks inc. juice, milk and yoghurt oil, drinking glass No broken glass, cooking oil, drinking glasses, light bulbs, pillows, duvets, plastic bags, Pyrex, tissues, kitchen or toilet roll, wet clothes or textiles or window glass. Bubble wrap, carrier bags, polystyrene, hard plastics such as flower pots, toys, videos or drain pipes) So along with anything contaminated with wood matter e.g. microwave chip boxes or other convenience food wrapping (cake boxes) McDonalds drinks cups….. personal hygiene by products…e.g. facial wipes, sanitary waste…dogs/cat waste…the list goes on and on….which is contrary to the council spin that we can recycle almost everything….oh I forgot….as long as you have a car and can drive to the Docks Way tip….and want to queue along with the others who can get down there before 4.15 when it shuts….. Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 5

8:30pm Wed 30 Apr 14

sooty001 says...

Ellen G wrote:
The massive green bag for recycling cardboard is a ridiculous idea - what would have been wrong with asking people to collect their cardboard in any old cardboard box and then putting that outside for collection once full? This would have been a cheaper, common sense option.
And where exactly are people who live in terraced houses supposed to keep these bags? No doubt there'll be plenty of these drifting about the streets of the city centre shortly.
Now what a sensible idea, but unfortunately it will not be implemented because it does not cost any money and a well paid council official did not think about it first.
[quote][p][bold]Ellen G[/bold] wrote: The massive green bag for recycling cardboard is a ridiculous idea - what would have been wrong with asking people to collect their cardboard in any old cardboard box and then putting that outside for collection once full? This would have been a cheaper, common sense option. And where exactly are people who live in terraced houses supposed to keep these bags? No doubt there'll be plenty of these drifting about the streets of the city centre shortly.[/p][/quote]Now what a sensible idea, but unfortunately it will not be implemented because it does not cost any money and a well paid council official did not think about it first. sooty001
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Thu 1 May 14

Lliswerry Man says...

A bit rich Mr Jeavons, considering you yourself kept your extra large 6+Green wheelie bin far longer than you should have had it, and it was only changed when they came out and changed, NOT at your own request.
Yet you are telling us how we should do more, Im afraid it starts at the councils level first....lead by example.

As for not meeting your targets, IM not surprised. YOU allow single people to have the same size FITS ALL wheelie bin as those families of 5.

A wheelie bin should not be one size fits all, but per HEAD.... this way you will meet your targets.... you keep claiming ah well single people use less waste... maybe... maybe not, how many recycle when they can just throw it into the green wheelie bin, as they have room due to only being 1 person , 1 bin....
Then we come to the , people must recycle more, I agree, but again, you can ONLY recycle, what your own recycling collections allows us to recycle. The rest gets Landfilled.
IF we could use the Amenity site better would help, its come a long way , but has a long way to go yet to become USER friendly. Clearly laid our areas, help.. I still find myself having to ask, where do I put this.... where do I put that.. as others I have heard do whilst I am there. Then there are the queues....
Also, WHO checks that those arriving at the Amenity site are from Newport?..... I have never been asked to prove im a local resident, I could be from out of the City simply adding my waste to the burden already being dealt with... clearly a system needs to be designed where we have passes, only issued to those LOCAL. ( again this costs, but long term, may bring down fines )

Maybe as there is SO much money in our waste, its time YOU organised our waste better your end, rather than keep expecting every single person to try and keep up with it, Other countries and even parts of the UK, the waste gets sorted at a central location, rather than kerbside, I have been told kerbside is the most economical for NCC... I beg to differ... only meeting 52% recycling?...... 100% if it is done at one central location.

The council seems to hope, we all stop buying items, stop eating, infact stop using anything that contributes to waste... reality is somewhat different. We like you cannot control fully what becomes waste.... we can make better choices in what and how we buy and a lot of us have, but waste is a by product of being human. Jobs would be lost if we all decided to stop buying items.. or renewing items.

You have not helped with the smaller green cardboard bags... MOST waste for families I know is CARDBOARD.... fact. It blows away, gets the cardboard wet, and is to be fair... USELESS... the orange lidded wheelie was ideal for cardboard, especially those of us with less garden waste, those of who put our garden waste into compost bins....

Anything I buy is either wrapped in cardboard or plastic. I am forever have to ring up for replacement clear bags, I have that much plastic waste, but as a large family, this is NORMAL, is a record kept of who asks for bags?, that is another way to see who really is RECYCLING.

We still come back to the question that NCC, Waste Managers nor the WAG nor the useless LOCAL MP's have been able to answer, WHO SAID.. a one size fits all wheelie bin will work, and who MONITORS it?...... come on please come forward and tell us.
A bit rich Mr Jeavons, considering you yourself kept your extra large 6+Green wheelie bin far longer than you should have had it, and it was only changed when they came out and changed, NOT at your own request. Yet you are telling us how we should do more, Im afraid it starts at the councils level first....lead by example. As for not meeting your targets, IM not surprised. YOU allow single people to have the same size FITS ALL wheelie bin as those families of 5. A wheelie bin should not be one size fits all, but per HEAD.... this way you will meet your targets.... you keep claiming ah well single people use less waste... maybe... maybe not, how many recycle when they can just throw it into the green wheelie bin, as they have room due to only being 1 person , 1 bin.... Then we come to the , people must recycle more, I agree, but again, you can ONLY recycle, what your own recycling collections allows us to recycle. The rest gets Landfilled. IF we could use the Amenity site better would help, its come a long way , but has a long way to go yet to become USER friendly. Clearly laid our areas, help.. I still find myself having to ask, where do I put this.... where do I put that.. as others I have heard do whilst I am there. Then there are the queues.... Also, WHO checks that those arriving at the Amenity site are from Newport?..... I have never been asked to prove im a local resident, I could be from out of the City simply adding my waste to the burden already being dealt with... clearly a system needs to be designed where we have passes, only issued to those LOCAL. ( again this costs, but long term, may bring down fines ) Maybe as there is SO much money in our waste, its time YOU organised our waste better your end, rather than keep expecting every single person to try and keep up with it, Other countries and even parts of the UK, the waste gets sorted at a central location, rather than kerbside, I have been told kerbside is the most economical for NCC... I beg to differ... only meeting 52% recycling?...... 100% if it is done at one central location. The council seems to hope, we all stop buying items, stop eating, infact stop using anything that contributes to waste... reality is somewhat different. We like you cannot control fully what becomes waste.... we can make better choices in what and how we buy and a lot of us have, but waste is a by product of being human. Jobs would be lost if we all decided to stop buying items.. or renewing items. You have not helped with the smaller green cardboard bags... MOST waste for families I know is CARDBOARD.... fact. It blows away, gets the cardboard wet, and is to be fair... USELESS... the orange lidded wheelie was ideal for cardboard, especially those of us with less garden waste, those of who put our garden waste into compost bins.... Anything I buy is either wrapped in cardboard or plastic. I am forever have to ring up for replacement clear bags, I have that much plastic waste, but as a large family, this is NORMAL, is a record kept of who asks for bags?, that is another way to see who really is RECYCLING. We still come back to the question that NCC, Waste Managers nor the WAG nor the useless LOCAL MP's have been able to answer, WHO SAID.. a one size fits all wheelie bin will work, and who MONITORS it?...... come on please come forward and tell us. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Fri 2 May 14

Barney01 says...

Newport City Council recycling not reaching targets, not surprised! Myself and my children loved doing the recycling, cleaning all the plastics and filling the recycling bin as much as possible feeling like we were doing our bit only to receive a knock at the door saying we were filling the bin too much and to ring the Council to request bags for any additional recycling!!!! He said that the policy was that they could only lift the bins that were level (too heavy perhaps with all the empty cartons!). It's difficult enough on space what with the green bin, orange top bin, green recycling bin, blue recycling bin, food bins and now they are suggesting bags, where on earth are we expected to keep all these things. About time logic started playing a part in all of this.
Newport City Council recycling not reaching targets, not surprised! Myself and my children loved doing the recycling, cleaning all the plastics and filling the recycling bin as much as possible feeling like we were doing our bit only to receive a knock at the door saying we were filling the bin too much and to ring the Council to request bags for any additional recycling!!!! He said that the policy was that they could only lift the bins that were level (too heavy perhaps with all the empty cartons!). It's difficult enough on space what with the green bin, orange top bin, green recycling bin, blue recycling bin, food bins and now they are suggesting bags, where on earth are we expected to keep all these things. About time logic started playing a part in all of this. Barney01
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Fri 2 May 14

-trigg- says...

I have nothing against the principle of recycling a larger proportion of our rubbish but it is fair to say that the current mechism is highly flawed. Expecting every household to play host to a multitude of multi-colourerd boxes and containers and to sort their rubbish into the appropriate one prior to collection is clearly impractical and doesn't work.

Caerphilly seem to have something closer to the right idea with one bin for "recyclables" and another for everything else, with the different recyclable materials being separated in bulk. I believe that the recycling part of the operation is also self-funding through sales of the recycled materials.

I would personally want to go somewhere between the approach of the two councils with 2 bins for Biodegradeables (to be turned into compost centrally) and Recyclables (for bulk processing), plus a smaller bin specifically for non-recyclables to be sent to landfill.
I have nothing against the principle of recycling a larger proportion of our rubbish but it is fair to say that the current mechism is highly flawed. Expecting every household to play host to a multitude of multi-colourerd boxes and containers and to sort their rubbish into the appropriate one prior to collection is clearly impractical and doesn't work. Caerphilly seem to have something closer to the right idea with one bin for "recyclables" and another for everything else, with the different recyclable materials being separated in bulk. I believe that the recycling part of the operation is also self-funding through sales of the recycled materials. I would personally want to go somewhere between the approach of the two councils with 2 bins for Biodegradeables (to be turned into compost centrally) and Recyclables (for bulk processing), plus a smaller bin specifically for non-recyclables to be sent to landfill. -trigg-
  • Score: 2

1:11pm Mon 5 May 14

Independentvoter says...

I heard that when the Newport City Alliance Party reform they are considering introducing a scheme where they will weigh your household waste and deduct the share of the profits of the waste sold off your council tax. This should encourage responsible recycling. Great Idea ! The question is when are they going to reform ?
I heard that when the Newport City Alliance Party reform they are considering introducing a scheme where they will weigh your household waste and deduct the share of the profits of the waste sold off your council tax. This should encourage responsible recycling. Great Idea ! The question is when are they going to reform ? Independentvoter
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Mon 5 May 14

SlopingBird says...

We are keen recyclers and, as a family of three now we rarely half-fill our smaller-sized green bin. However, I do know people who find all so complicated they don't bother anymore. I do think there should be more emphasis on cutting waste at source... do we really need cardboard sleeves around plastic tubs/containers? Or bags within boxes? There is so much needless packaging on most food/electrical items; I suspect much of it is there to make us think we're getting more for our money than we actually are. It's madness to put all the responsibility on individual households.
We are keen recyclers and, as a family of three now we rarely half-fill our smaller-sized green bin. However, I do know people who find all so complicated they don't bother anymore. I do think there should be more emphasis on cutting waste at source... do we really need cardboard sleeves around plastic tubs/containers? Or bags within boxes? There is so much needless packaging on most food/electrical items; I suspect much of it is there to make us think we're getting more for our money than we actually are. It's madness to put all the responsibility on individual households. SlopingBird
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Tue 6 May 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Afghan Hound wrote:
As an ex Newport boy now living in South Africa I do enjoy reading some of the comments on this site. In the area that I live is the base of acompany called' Wildlands Trust', they set up collection points at every shopping centre over a wide area, most people go shoping at least once a day and take rubbish with them, it costs nothing, the company collects it sorts it and sells it on, the money they make goes towards keeping wild lands wild and clean. The local municipality collect my 'normal' rubbish on a weekly basis. This sort of setup should be looked at by green groups and the like in the U.K. Just to give you an idea of the items they recycle it it easier to say they dont accept used condoms or sanitary towels.
Seems like a brilliant system.
And as pointed out above, Spain has a good system of rubbish collection which works very well and is very cheap compared with our debacle.
Why is it that our rubbish collection is so unbelievably overcomplicated when a system such as these that have been mentioned, are simple and effective?
Why can't we be like Spain? They are in the EU same as us, but seem to have more common sense when it comes to these matters
[quote][p][bold]Afghan Hound[/bold] wrote: As an ex Newport boy now living in South Africa I do enjoy reading some of the comments on this site. In the area that I live is the base of acompany called' Wildlands Trust', they set up collection points at every shopping centre over a wide area, most people go shoping at least once a day and take rubbish with them, it costs nothing, the company collects it sorts it and sells it on, the money they make goes towards keeping wild lands wild and clean. The local municipality collect my 'normal' rubbish on a weekly basis. This sort of setup should be looked at by green groups and the like in the U.K. Just to give you an idea of the items they recycle it it easier to say they dont accept used condoms or sanitary towels.[/p][/quote]Seems like a brilliant system. And as pointed out above, Spain has a good system of rubbish collection which works very well and is very cheap compared with our debacle. Why is it that our rubbish collection is so unbelievably overcomplicated when a system such as these that have been mentioned, are simple and effective? Why can't we be like Spain? They are in the EU same as us, but seem to have more common sense when it comes to these matters Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

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