'Shocking increase' in working Newport people on housing benefit

'SHOCKING RISE': Jessica Morden, Labour MP for Newport East

'SHOCKING RISE': Jessica Morden, Labour MP for Newport East

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THE number of people in Newport who claim housing benefit despite working has shot up by nearly 50 per cent since 2010, according to a Newport MP.

Jessica Morden, Labour MP for Newport East, said House of Commons library statistics showed more than 1,900 people in the city are claiming the benefit despite being in employment, up 49 per cent since the current ruling coalition came to power.

But the Department for Work and Pensions said the housing benefit bill had been spiraling out of control in the years up to 2010.

Ms Morden said: “This shocking increase of nearly 50 per cent shows that the cost-of-living crisis is a big problem in Newport and the government is spending an increasing amount to subsidise low pay.

“This increasingly insecure, zero-hour job market, which the government is doing nothing to tackle, is forcing more and more people to rely on housing benefit even when they are working.

“Labour has pledged to ban exploitative zero-hour contracts by making sure employees who work regular hours get a regular contract, banning the requirement for employees to be on call all day without any guarantee of work”.

But a DWP spokesman responded saying: “The housing benefit bill was spiraling out of control in the years up to 2010.

“Action the government has taken is bringing that bill under control and the rise of housing benefit claimants in work has slowed.

“We have also taken action to help hardworking people by increasing the tax-free personal allowance, freezing fuel duty and cutting energy bills.”

According to the figures supplied by Ms Morden’s office, there are now 1,943 people in Newport who, despite being in work, need housing benefit to help pay their rent.

This represents an increase of 49 per cent since 2010.

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6:09am Wed 28 May 14

VoiceOfDaPort says...

With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment.

The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%.

Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees
With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment. The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%. Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees VoiceOfDaPort
  • Score: 50

6:19am Wed 28 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

morden it was your government that flooded the country with loads of cheap labour - private sector employers took advantage and lowered their pay rates (by the back door through use of agencies).

at the same time due to huge demand 3 million people have to live somewhere rents in private sector exploded.

LABOUR HELP THE WORKING CLASES DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
morden it was your government that flooded the country with loads of cheap labour - private sector employers took advantage and lowered their pay rates (by the back door through use of agencies). at the same time due to huge demand 3 million people have to live somewhere rents in private sector exploded. LABOUR HELP THE WORKING CLASES DONT MAKE ME LAUGH scraptheWAG
  • Score: 6

7:10am Wed 28 May 14

Llanmartinangel says...

How much did Labour increase council tax by? You can't have it both ways.
How much did Labour increase council tax by? You can't have it both ways. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -4

8:24am Wed 28 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

besides morden is that not how labour attract life long support by keeping people on benefits!!

you are always putting articles in the paper infact its the only time we hear of you saying vote tory and they will cut your benefits
besides morden is that not how labour attract life long support by keeping people on benefits!! you are always putting articles in the paper infact its the only time we hear of you saying vote tory and they will cut your benefits scraptheWAG
  • Score: -14

8:52am Wed 28 May 14

Lastpost says...

Miss Morden does not mention whether the Newport figures from 2010 to date include Newport immigrants who have been allowed to claim housing benefit.

Newports immigrants population has swelled over the last four years and until last month, immigrants from the EU have been entitled to housing benefit.

As said before, your pledge to ban unjust contracts is just pre election spin. Wouldn't it be good if the failed pre election promises of all policical parties were punishable by jail sentences for MPs on the grounds of fraud by false representation.
Miss Morden does not mention whether the Newport figures from 2010 to date include Newport immigrants who have been allowed to claim housing benefit. Newports immigrants population has swelled over the last four years and until last month, immigrants from the EU have been entitled to housing benefit. As said before, your pledge to ban unjust contracts is just pre election spin. Wouldn't it be good if the failed pre election promises of all policical parties were punishable by jail sentences for MPs on the grounds of fraud by false representation. Lastpost
  • Score: 22

10:14am Wed 28 May 14

helper7 says...

Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !!
High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC.
These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government.
The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly.
The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU.
Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose.
UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU
Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !! High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC. These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government. The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly. The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU. Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose. UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU helper7
  • Score: 32

10:20am Wed 28 May 14

JanJenkins says...

Its funny how people keep referring to Government when problems crop up.
We in Wales are governed by the people in Cardiff of the Welsh Assembly which is run by Labour Party as it always has.
The Welsh Assembly hold the purse strings not London. The local councils again Labour led , set the council tax, council rents . ect.
Wales has always been the same.
Its funny how people keep referring to Government when problems crop up. We in Wales are governed by the people in Cardiff of the Welsh Assembly which is run by Labour Party as it always has. The Welsh Assembly hold the purse strings not London. The local councils again Labour led , set the council tax, council rents . ect. Wales has always been the same. JanJenkins
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10:29am Wed 28 May 14

welshmen says...

The LABOUR Government flooded our Country with millions of Foreigners, the mess we are in is ALL down to them and the European Union, flood the labour market with cheap workers and the bosses make a killing at the expense of the British workers, we have over 650,000 EU immigrants on JSA not withstanding unknown thousands of them on the sick, all claiming something they have not put into, claiming for children in their home land, £30 Million last year, also sending their money back to their home land, minus zero return for our Country, and yet the thick Labour voters do it a gain, vote for the MESS makers, more of the same on the way, build more houses and more again will come here for the free hand outs, pathetic Government need changing, LIB/LAB/CON/PLAID all want to stay in the EU, UKIP will get us out, it's a NO brainer, get our Country back under our control....
The LABOUR Government flooded our Country with millions of Foreigners, the mess we are in is ALL down to them and the European Union, flood the labour market with cheap workers and the bosses make a killing at the expense of the British workers, we have over 650,000 EU immigrants on JSA not withstanding unknown thousands of them on the sick, all claiming something they have not put into, claiming for children in their home land, £30 Million last year, also sending their money back to their home land, minus zero return for our Country, and yet the thick Labour voters do it a gain, vote for the MESS makers, more of the same on the way, build more houses and more again will come here for the free hand outs, pathetic Government need changing, LIB/LAB/CON/PLAID all want to stay in the EU, UKIP will get us out, it's a NO brainer, get our Country back under our control.... welshmen
  • Score: -26

11:08am Wed 28 May 14

helper7 says...

Just realised my recent post criticised Labour, Tories, LibDems & UKIP; maybe I should change my views to read 'Equal opportunities cynic'?


In The News:
30% of Brits are now racists, I wonder if its the same 30% that voted UKIP?

Having ruined the financial lives of millions of students and disabled people, Clegg wants to stay and finish the job, out of touch or what?

Why are the Tories so paranoid about the deficit, last time they were in, they were in deficit for 16 out of their 18 years in power

Tories actually believe that Gordon Brown caused the Banks to fail in Spain,Italy,Portugal
,France,USA, Greece,Cyprus,UK,Ire
land,Iceland … yeah right

In France it's an illustration of how dangerous the Front National extremists are that after it became clear that they had won the European election in which only about a third of French people had bothered to vote, they immediately used this success as their justification to call for the French parliament to be dissolved!

Back home in dear blighty the Tory Vote is still strong, due to people living longer, Thatchers geriatric followers are still turning up at the Polling Stations
Just realised my recent post criticised Labour, Tories, LibDems & UKIP; maybe I should change my views to read 'Equal opportunities cynic'? In The News: 30% of Brits are now racists, I wonder if its the same 30% that voted UKIP? Having ruined the financial lives of millions of students and disabled people, Clegg wants to stay and finish the job, out of touch or what? Why are the Tories so paranoid about the deficit, last time they were in, they were in deficit for 16 out of their 18 years in power Tories actually believe that Gordon Brown caused the Banks to fail in Spain,Italy,Portugal ,France,USA, Greece,Cyprus,UK,Ire land,Iceland … yeah right In France it's an illustration of how dangerous the Front National extremists are that after it became clear that they had won the European election in which only about a third of French people had bothered to vote, they immediately used this success as their justification to call for the French parliament to be dissolved! Back home in dear blighty the Tory Vote is still strong, due to people living longer, Thatchers geriatric followers are still turning up at the Polling Stations helper7
  • Score: 34

11:10am Wed 28 May 14

welshmen says...

helper7 wrote:
Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !!
High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC.
These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government.
The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly.
The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU.
Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose.
UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU
****....Post....
get your facts right Labour Voter....
[quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !! High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC. These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government. The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly. The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU. Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose. UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU[/p][/quote]****....Post.... get your facts right Labour Voter.... welshmen
  • Score: -37

11:18am Wed 28 May 14

-trigg- says...

Interesting that the number of people working while claiming housing benefit has risen so steeply, yet the total number claiming has remained relatively static.

Just off the top of my head, is the increase connected to the recently-introduced cap on the amount of housing benefit people could claim? An incentive to get out there and look for work instead of sitting back and parasiting from the taxpayer has led to an increase in the number of people working to at least partially pay their way. Who would have believed it?
Interesting that the number of people working while claiming housing benefit has risen so steeply, yet the total number claiming has remained relatively static. Just off the top of my head, is the increase connected to the recently-introduced cap on the amount of housing benefit people could claim? An incentive to get out there and look for work instead of sitting back and parasiting from the taxpayer has led to an increase in the number of people working to at least partially pay their way. Who would have believed it? -trigg-
  • Score: -15

12:10pm Wed 28 May 14

helper7 says...

welshmen wrote:
helper7 wrote:
Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !!
High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC.
These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government.
The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly.
The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU.
Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose.
UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU
****....Post....
get your facts right Labour Voter....
heres sopme facts for you:
Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s

Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms.

The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires.

Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days

The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news

Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through?

And saving the good news for last:
BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly

.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !! High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC. These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government. The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly. The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU. Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose. UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU[/p][/quote]****....Post.... get your facts right Labour Voter....[/p][/quote]heres sopme facts for you: Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms. The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires. Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through? And saving the good news for last: BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly . helper7
  • Score: 41

2:00pm Wed 28 May 14

Lliswerry Man says...

-trigg- wrote:
Interesting that the number of people working while claiming housing benefit has risen so steeply, yet the total number claiming has remained relatively static.

Just off the top of my head, is the increase connected to the recently-introduced cap on the amount of housing benefit people could claim? An incentive to get out there and look for work instead of sitting back and parasiting from the taxpayer has led to an increase in the number of people working to at least partially pay their way. Who would have believed it?
I seriously question sometimes where people gather their facts? too much Jeremy Kyle?

Try working in the Jobcentre or one of the many job enterprise schemes to aid people looking for work and you might surprise yourself. This mass amount of people whom you claim are sitting idle doing nothing, are probably in the Minority who are unable to look for work for various reasons Unknown to you and many of the dictators who preach on here, whereas the Majority of claimants are out there, day in day out fighting an ever enlarging population of people looking for work that is getting harder to find.

But no, its easier for -trigg- to quote their own propaganda rather then face the real facts, that Jobs are scarce...... People are looking.... and more and more are only finding Low Paid Jobs, resulting in them needing Housing Benefit help. Most affordable housing associations have put their prices up including local authorities in a time when people are being squeezed from all sides, so for you to suggest these extra numbers are merely people forced to work is UTTER nonsense.

THOSE who YOU claim... were dole bums to coin a phrase, were claiming it before.... so if by your standards, them now working has increased the Working people claiming Housing Benefit, this would then show up as NON working decreases in people claiming Housing Benefit... this is not happening......or the facts though is it?
And also for Your Information the cap on housing benefit has hardly affected, if ANY people within Gwent, its inner cities like London, where rents were extortionate, and they are now operating a legal system of moving the poor out......make it unaffordable for them to live in the homes they have grown up in or areas.
Most benefit claimants do not even get the MAX limits now being set.

SO please Mr/Mrs -trigg- research the facts first, try to stop watching Jeremy Kyle and go out more and learn more, infact how about you pop off to your local jobcentre and offer advice to the hundreds who attend their on how they can "pay their way"... rather than sit on here presuming.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: Interesting that the number of people working while claiming housing benefit has risen so steeply, yet the total number claiming has remained relatively static. Just off the top of my head, is the increase connected to the recently-introduced cap on the amount of housing benefit people could claim? An incentive to get out there and look for work instead of sitting back and parasiting from the taxpayer has led to an increase in the number of people working to at least partially pay their way. Who would have believed it?[/p][/quote]I seriously question sometimes where people gather their facts? too much Jeremy Kyle? Try working in the Jobcentre or one of the many job enterprise schemes to aid people looking for work and you might surprise yourself. This mass amount of people whom you claim are sitting idle doing nothing, are probably in the Minority who are unable to look for work for various reasons Unknown to you and many of the dictators who preach on here, whereas the Majority of claimants are out there, day in day out fighting an ever enlarging population of people looking for work that is getting harder to find. But no, its easier for -trigg- to quote their own propaganda rather then face the real facts, that Jobs are scarce...... People are looking.... and more and more are only finding Low Paid Jobs, resulting in them needing Housing Benefit help. Most affordable housing associations have put their prices up including local authorities in a time when people are being squeezed from all sides, so for you to suggest these extra numbers are merely people forced to work is UTTER nonsense. THOSE who YOU claim... were dole bums to coin a phrase, were claiming it before.... so if by your standards, them now working has increased the Working people claiming Housing Benefit, this would then show up as NON working decreases in people claiming Housing Benefit... this is not happening......or the facts though is it? And also for Your Information the cap on housing benefit has hardly affected, if ANY people within Gwent, its inner cities like London, where rents were extortionate, and they are now operating a legal system of moving the poor out......make it unaffordable for them to live in the homes they have grown up in or areas. Most benefit claimants do not even get the MAX limits now being set. SO please Mr/Mrs -trigg- research the facts first, try to stop watching Jeremy Kyle and go out more and learn more, infact how about you pop off to your local jobcentre and offer advice to the hundreds who attend their on how they can "pay their way"... rather than sit on here presuming. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 19

2:41pm Wed 28 May 14

chelsea1970 says...

It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!!
It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!! chelsea1970
  • Score: -11

2:47pm Wed 28 May 14

-trigg- says...

What the figures show is that the amount of people claiming Housing Benefit whilst out of work has stopped increasing at an alarming rate and is easily explained by new claimants replacing those who are now working whilst claiming this benefit, instead of the total being simply added to.

The fact is that despite all the hand-wringing, there ARE jobs out there but many people consider them to be too low paid or beneath their dignity to do. Combined with the low marginal gains to be made from working and it is easy to see why these positions go unfilled.

After all, why should someone spend all week working when their benefits will only be reduced by the amount that they earn, leaving them no better off financially? The Housing Benefit cap is a good step in encouraging a change in such attitudes, in that there is now a genuine incentive for people to actively seek work. This now needs to be coupled with a tapered reduction in the laughably-named "Job Seeker's Allowance" to remove the benefit trap and bring an end to the modern dependency culture.
What the figures show is that the amount of people claiming Housing Benefit whilst out of work has stopped increasing at an alarming rate and is easily explained by new claimants replacing those who are now working whilst claiming this benefit, instead of the total being simply added to. The fact is that despite all the hand-wringing, there ARE jobs out there but many people consider them to be too low paid or beneath their dignity to do. Combined with the low marginal gains to be made from working and it is easy to see why these positions go unfilled. After all, why should someone spend all week working when their benefits will only be reduced by the amount that they earn, leaving them no better off financially? The Housing Benefit cap is a good step in encouraging a change in such attitudes, in that there is now a genuine incentive for people to actively seek work. This now needs to be coupled with a tapered reduction in the laughably-named "Job Seeker's Allowance" to remove the benefit trap and bring an end to the modern dependency culture. -trigg-
  • Score: -21

3:10pm Wed 28 May 14

chelsea1970 says...

-trigg- wrote:
What the figures show is that the amount of people claiming Housing Benefit whilst out of work has stopped increasing at an alarming rate and is easily explained by new claimants replacing those who are now working whilst claiming this benefit, instead of the total being simply added to.

The fact is that despite all the hand-wringing, there ARE jobs out there but many people consider them to be too low paid or beneath their dignity to do. Combined with the low marginal gains to be made from working and it is easy to see why these positions go unfilled.

After all, why should someone spend all week working when their benefits will only be reduced by the amount that they earn, leaving them no better off financially? The Housing Benefit cap is a good step in encouraging a change in such attitudes, in that there is now a genuine incentive for people to actively seek work. This now needs to be coupled with a tapered reduction in the laughably-named "Job Seeker's Allowance" to remove the benefit trap and bring an end to the modern dependency culture.
That was exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't put it over as good as that lol
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: What the figures show is that the amount of people claiming Housing Benefit whilst out of work has stopped increasing at an alarming rate and is easily explained by new claimants replacing those who are now working whilst claiming this benefit, instead of the total being simply added to. The fact is that despite all the hand-wringing, there ARE jobs out there but many people consider them to be too low paid or beneath their dignity to do. Combined with the low marginal gains to be made from working and it is easy to see why these positions go unfilled. After all, why should someone spend all week working when their benefits will only be reduced by the amount that they earn, leaving them no better off financially? The Housing Benefit cap is a good step in encouraging a change in such attitudes, in that there is now a genuine incentive for people to actively seek work. This now needs to be coupled with a tapered reduction in the laughably-named "Job Seeker's Allowance" to remove the benefit trap and bring an end to the modern dependency culture.[/p][/quote]That was exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't put it over as good as that lol chelsea1970
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3:14pm Wed 28 May 14

Lliswerry Man says...

You ahve missed the Housing Benefit cap meaning all together -trigg-

It is not doing what you are suggesting here it does. It only affects those whose rents were higher than £400 a week..........show me where in Newport rents are that High?

Many people are doing low paid jobs and are worse off than on Benefits STILL... despite the current coalition stating working people will be better off... IF it was as Magic as that why did the Conservatives not do it when they were last in power?

There will always be those worse off...... no matter, how you shuffle the figures or dress it up.
What matters is how we spent the revenues brought in......

YOU like so many keep using the term dependency culture.... CREATED by previous governments, wiping out manufacturing and training opportunities within this country.. do you really think people woke up one day and said, yeah today , I will make myself poor, probably have to steal a few eggs...and milk.... live in taxpayers money... and scratch around doing nothing all day long?... do you really?

MOST people in this whole country are MORE Than happy to do a FAIR days work... for a FAIR days pay......... unlike the Greedy landowners and property owners, who raise rents in times of NEED ? or greed..... and want to sit on some beach somewhere far removed from the problems they have helped create at home. Just like those with Holiday Flats, Caravans, Hotels who charge more during Holiday Times.... force those less able to pay more.... if you choose to want a Holiday. I have not had one in over 27 years......

You keep harping back as well to the fact there are Low Paid Jobs out there... Yes there are... BUT you have to be accepted for the job to get the job............ like I said previously, YOU have the answers, you have found the cure for our country, so rather than sit on here, Go to the Jobcentre, and offer your advice to those who need it the most, rather than bleat about it here and convince yourself that what you say is true, Go and Prove it.
You ahve missed the Housing Benefit cap meaning all together -trigg- It is not doing what you are suggesting here it does. It only affects those whose rents were higher than £400 a week..........show me where in Newport rents are that High? Many people are doing low paid jobs and are worse off than on Benefits STILL... despite the current coalition stating working people will be better off... IF it was as Magic as that why did the Conservatives not do it when they were last in power? There will always be those worse off...... no matter, how you shuffle the figures or dress it up. What matters is how we spent the revenues brought in...... YOU like so many keep using the term dependency culture.... CREATED by previous governments, wiping out manufacturing and training opportunities within this country.. do you really think people woke up one day and said, yeah today , I will make myself poor, probably have to steal a few eggs...and milk.... live in taxpayers money... and scratch around doing nothing all day long?... do you really? MOST people in this whole country are MORE Than happy to do a FAIR days work... for a FAIR days pay......... unlike the Greedy landowners and property owners, who raise rents in times of NEED ? or greed..... and want to sit on some beach somewhere far removed from the problems they have helped create at home. Just like those with Holiday Flats, Caravans, Hotels who charge more during Holiday Times.... force those less able to pay more.... if you choose to want a Holiday. I have not had one in over 27 years...... You keep harping back as well to the fact there are Low Paid Jobs out there... Yes there are... BUT you have to be accepted for the job to get the job............ like I said previously, YOU have the answers, you have found the cure for our country, so rather than sit on here, Go to the Jobcentre, and offer your advice to those who need it the most, rather than bleat about it here and convince yourself that what you say is true, Go and Prove it. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 11

3:32pm Wed 28 May 14

robrat41 says...

Any business that pays wages so low people have to claim money from the government to pay for their home are being subsidised.

They are the hidden benefit scroungers of Britain.
Any business that pays wages so low people have to claim money from the government to pay for their home are being subsidised. They are the hidden benefit scroungers of Britain. robrat41
  • Score: 15

3:34pm Wed 28 May 14

robrat41 says...

You people who Blame labour for this, Ferchrisakes. The Eton Alliance have been in power for nearly 5 years and have done sod all about it but make it worse. Change the record please.
You people who Blame labour for this, Ferchrisakes. The Eton Alliance have been in power for nearly 5 years and have done sod all about it but make it worse. Change the record please. robrat41
  • Score: 14

5:52pm Wed 28 May 14

peckylecky says...

Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people peckylecky
  • Score: 12

6:18pm Wed 28 May 14

helper7 says...

peckylecky wrote:
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
Pulling away from the EU will only make things worse and many would say without the EU we could not go it alone the world has changed, we would become more like the US and that’s no fun for working folk.
Anybody who believes the American dream could be good had better check out its history.
Read up on John Steinbeck's grapes of wrath its not far from the truth!


Thinking of policies like the bedroom tax and Politicians like MP David Davies telling our young folk to go to London to find work! poor old Tom Joad would be very familiar with life in the UK if he were to find himself here today.

Fast internet connection...check it out, enjoy:

http://n79.stagevu.c
om/v/098b5d87ea86157
c7514f27ca5aca9d2/40
3226.avi
[quote][p][bold]peckylecky[/bold] wrote: Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people[/p][/quote]Pulling away from the EU will only make things worse and many would say without the EU we could not go it alone the world has changed, we would become more like the US and that’s no fun for working folk. Anybody who believes the American dream could be good had better check out its history. Read up on John Steinbeck's grapes of wrath its not far from the truth! Thinking of policies like the bedroom tax and Politicians like MP David Davies telling our young folk to go to London to find work! poor old Tom Joad would be very familiar with life in the UK if he were to find himself here today. Fast internet connection...check it out, enjoy: http://n79.stagevu.c om/v/098b5d87ea86157 c7514f27ca5aca9d2/40 3226.avi helper7
  • Score: 15

6:19pm Wed 28 May 14

chelsea1970 says...

peckylecky wrote:
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
It's exactly the same in the building trade. Qualified roofer puts price in for a new 3 bedroom house roof . Which will give that roofer a living wage and a quality roof . Then u get someone who will put price in half as much which as dodgy materials and quicker but not quality . Price before quality says it all really don't it !
[quote][p][bold]peckylecky[/bold] wrote: Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people[/p][/quote]It's exactly the same in the building trade. Qualified roofer puts price in for a new 3 bedroom house roof . Which will give that roofer a living wage and a quality roof . Then u get someone who will put price in half as much which as dodgy materials and quicker but not quality . Price before quality says it all really don't it ! chelsea1970
  • Score: 2

6:29pm Wed 28 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

peckylecky wrote:
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
well did you vote UKIP or like a labour sheep, dont forget milliband or cameron or their children will never work in a hotel they have nice high paid public sector jobs funded by you.

the hotel you are working it is just after the cheapest person they can find
[quote][p][bold]peckylecky[/bold] wrote: Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people[/p][/quote]well did you vote UKIP or like a labour sheep, dont forget milliband or cameron or their children will never work in a hotel they have nice high paid public sector jobs funded by you. the hotel you are working it is just after the cheapest person they can find scraptheWAG
  • Score: -13

6:37pm Wed 28 May 14

helper7 says...

helper7 wrote:
peckylecky wrote:
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
Pulling away from the EU will only make things worse and many would say without the EU we could not go it alone the world has changed, we would become more like the US and that’s no fun for working folk.
Anybody who believes the American dream could be good had better check out its history.
Read up on John Steinbeck's grapes of wrath its not far from the truth!


Thinking of policies like the bedroom tax and Politicians like MP David Davies telling our young folk to go to London to find work! poor old Tom Joad would be very familiar with life in the UK if he were to find himself here today.

Fast internet connection...check it out, enjoy:

http://n79.stagevu.c

om/v/098b5d87ea86157

c7514f27ca5aca9d2/40

3226.avi
Apologies if that link did not work, heres a taster:
http://youtu.be/wYFJ
mm0aK-8
[quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peckylecky[/bold] wrote: Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people[/p][/quote]Pulling away from the EU will only make things worse and many would say without the EU we could not go it alone the world has changed, we would become more like the US and that’s no fun for working folk. Anybody who believes the American dream could be good had better check out its history. Read up on John Steinbeck's grapes of wrath its not far from the truth! Thinking of policies like the bedroom tax and Politicians like MP David Davies telling our young folk to go to London to find work! poor old Tom Joad would be very familiar with life in the UK if he were to find himself here today. Fast internet connection...check it out, enjoy: http://n79.stagevu.c om/v/098b5d87ea86157 c7514f27ca5aca9d2/40 3226.avi[/p][/quote]Apologies if that link did not work, heres a taster: http://youtu.be/wYFJ mm0aK-8 helper7
  • Score: 16

7:16pm Wed 28 May 14

Independentvoter says...

peckylecky wrote:
Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people
Has anyone phoned the Holiday Inn at The Coldra to confirm this story with the management yet ?
[quote][p][bold]peckylecky[/bold] wrote: Wales is fast becoming a 3rd world country within the U.K. I work for the Holiday inn Newport and have been told that it is very unlikely I will get a cost of living increase for years to come. I retire in 4 years and that will make 10 years on the same salary. The hotel is full of un der 18s and foreigners who will put up with being treated like serfs. I worry for the future of our young people[/p][/quote]Has anyone phoned the Holiday Inn at The Coldra to confirm this story with the management yet ? Independentvoter
  • Score: -2

9:48pm Wed 28 May 14

Cantankerous says...

VoiceOfDaPort wrote:
With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment.

The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%.

Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees
Social landlord's rents are determined by the Welsh Government!
[quote][p][bold]VoiceOfDaPort[/bold] wrote: With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment. The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%. Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees[/p][/quote]Social landlord's rents are determined by the Welsh Government! Cantankerous
  • Score: -8

9:50pm Wed 28 May 14

Cantankerous says...

VoiceOfDaPort wrote:
With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment.

The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%.

Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees
Social landlord's rent increases are determined by the Welsh Government!
[quote][p][bold]VoiceOfDaPort[/bold] wrote: With wages still reducing whilst costs still increasing, is it any surprise there is a rise in housing benefit claims by people in employment. The rent for Newport City Homes tenants went up by up to 6.5%, whilst council tax went up at about 4.5%. Most employers are taking staff on for lower wages than they did just a couple years ago, whilst not giving a real terms pay cut to their current employees[/p][/quote]Social landlord's rent increases are determined by the Welsh Government! Cantankerous
  • Score: -8

9:54pm Wed 28 May 14

Cantankerous says...

Social landlord's rent increases are determined by the Welsh Government!
Social landlord's rent increases are determined by the Welsh Government! Cantankerous
  • Score: -10

10:20pm Wed 28 May 14

Mwy Eira says...

I work in the public sector and haven't had a cost of living pay rise for a good few years either. I've seen my pension age increase, my contributions increase but guess what ... I thank my lucky stars I still have a job! What really gets my goat though is councillors and MPs voting themselves big whacking pay rises.
I work in the public sector and haven't had a cost of living pay rise for a good few years either. I've seen my pension age increase, my contributions increase but guess what ... I thank my lucky stars I still have a job! What really gets my goat though is councillors and MPs voting themselves big whacking pay rises. Mwy Eira
  • Score: 10

11:08pm Wed 28 May 14

welshmen says...

helper7 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
helper7 wrote:
Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !!
High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC.
These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government.
The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly.
The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU.
Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose.
UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU
****....Post....
get your facts right Labour Voter....
heres sopme facts for you:
Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s

Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms.

The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires.

Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days

The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news

Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through?

And saving the good news for last:
BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly

.
Are you son of Clegy, we all know how daft Nigel made him look, you must enjoy the cheap labour from the EU to make plenty of money? I and millions of British people voted for a change, not what your bleating about....wages fell to an all time low when the flood gates were opened and never closed by the Labour and Coalition Governments, to many people here, to many people can't speak English, time for millions of them to go back and make their own Country great because it isn't happing here....
[quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !! High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC. These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government. The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly. The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU. Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose. UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU[/p][/quote]****....Post.... get your facts right Labour Voter....[/p][/quote]heres sopme facts for you: Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms. The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires. Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through? And saving the good news for last: BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly .[/p][/quote]Are you son of Clegy, we all know how daft Nigel made him look, you must enjoy the cheap labour from the EU to make plenty of money? I and millions of British people voted for a change, not what your bleating about....wages fell to an all time low when the flood gates were opened and never closed by the Labour and Coalition Governments, to many people here, to many people can't speak English, time for millions of them to go back and make their own Country great because it isn't happing here.... welshmen
  • Score: -15

11:40pm Wed 28 May 14

newporteast says...

there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp,

Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%.
there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp, Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%. newporteast
  • Score: 1

11:43pm Wed 28 May 14

Cantankerous says...

newporteast wrote:
there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp,

Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%.
NCH rents due to Welsh Government determination!
[quote][p][bold]newporteast[/bold] wrote: there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp, Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%.[/p][/quote]NCH rents due to Welsh Government determination! Cantankerous
  • Score: -4

9:35am Thu 29 May 14

helper7 says...

welshmen wrote:
helper7 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
helper7 wrote:
Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !!
High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC.
These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government.
The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly.
The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU.
Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose.
UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU
****....Post....
get your facts right Labour Voter....
heres sopme facts for you:
Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s

Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms.

The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires.

Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days

The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news

Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through?

And saving the good news for last:
BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly

.
Are you son of Clegy, we all know how daft Nigel made him look, you must enjoy the cheap labour from the EU to make plenty of money? I and millions of British people voted for a change, not what your bleating about....wages fell to an all time low when the flood gates were opened and never closed by the Labour and Coalition Governments, to many people here, to many people can't speak English, time for millions of them to go back and make their own Country great because it isn't happing here....
I despise Clegg for his betrayal of the people that voted for the Libdems (not me) but that’s nowhere near how sick I feel about you BNP lot.
Ukip did not do the damage to Clegg he did that all by himself.
Majority of voters used the kippers as a payback weapon and never even considered the EU or the vile views of the far right. The lunatic section of Ukippers drawn from the far right are blindly celebrating the success of the National Front in France where there was a very low voter turn out, On the positive side at least our anti-EU protest (the few that are serious anyway) voters are just a bunch of Uber-Thatcherites that will be defeated at the next general election because they wont have the Libdems to let them in through the back door and the very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition government next is not something the public will be fooled by either.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helper7[/bold] wrote: Britain's workers are suffering the most protracted squeeze on their incomes since the depression 1870s !! High inflation 0 hour contracts and part time jobs replacing secure full time jobs for many workers means that real wages have now fallen to all time lows, according to calculations by the TUC. These figures expose once again the shallowness of our recovery. Without better jobs and decent pay rises we will not get sustainable growth, its all very well pointing to affluent parts of the south but that just shows a huge divide just like we had under the previous Tory government. The coalition government we have now have brought us to this point and in all fairness Labour despite giving strong resistance Nationally are failing on a local level in Wales and this is down to the local labour lot taking the vote for granted and not doing their job properly. The recent hysteria in voting Ukip is nothing more than a protest at the conservative and Labour politicians and pay back time for Nick Cleggs betrayal and has very little to do with the EU. Unfortunately few realise that the Tories could get in to power for the second time through the back door a very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition could be on the cards and as most Ukippers are disgruntled Tories or lunatics drawn from far right movements then Labour and other socialist party’s have most to loose. UKIP blames poor results in London on their "difficulty in appealing to the educated, cultured and young" well they must think the rest of us Yokels easy to fool. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU[/p][/quote]****....Post.... get your facts right Labour Voter....[/p][/quote]heres sopme facts for you: Labour's final year in power saw child poverty at lowest level since 1980s Now 5 million British youths will be 'sentenced to a lifetime of poverty’ thanks to the coalition welfare reforms. The Working Class pay for the Banking Crisis, while Tories give themselves £3bn of Tax Cuts for millionaires. Anybody remember Norman Lamont and his special advisor David Cameron raising Interest Rates to 15.8% in 1992......... Happy Days The UK is the only G8 Country where the Red Cross provides Emergency Food Aid, Just rejoice at that news Only UKIP will leave the EU and restore border controls...... And then what? Have you really thought this through? And saving the good news for last: BNP leader Nick Griffin loses seat as MEP ... Lovely Jubbly .[/p][/quote]Are you son of Clegy, we all know how daft Nigel made him look, you must enjoy the cheap labour from the EU to make plenty of money? I and millions of British people voted for a change, not what your bleating about....wages fell to an all time low when the flood gates were opened and never closed by the Labour and Coalition Governments, to many people here, to many people can't speak English, time for millions of them to go back and make their own Country great because it isn't happing here....[/p][/quote]I despise Clegg for his betrayal of the people that voted for the Libdems (not me) but that’s nowhere near how sick I feel about you BNP lot. Ukip did not do the damage to Clegg he did that all by himself. Majority of voters used the kippers as a payback weapon and never even considered the EU or the vile views of the far right. The lunatic section of Ukippers drawn from the far right are blindly celebrating the success of the National Front in France where there was a very low voter turn out, On the positive side at least our anti-EU protest (the few that are serious anyway) voters are just a bunch of Uber-Thatcherites that will be defeated at the next general election because they wont have the Libdems to let them in through the back door and the very real prospect of a Tory/UKIP coalition government next is not something the public will be fooled by either. helper7
  • Score: 16

9:56am Thu 29 May 14

Gweneira says...

newporteast wrote:
there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp,

Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%.
Ms Morden writes an article for SWA every month, regularly produces leaflets for her constituents and holds weekly advice surgeries throughout Newport East. Information can be found on her website. Ms Morden is always vocal on issues affecting her constituents, so its surprising that newporteast claims she is only now speaking out because of the General Election next year.
[quote][p][bold]newporteast[/bold] wrote: there must be an election coming up to hear from a Labour Mp, Why are NCH charging so much rent and why did NCC put up council tax by 6%.[/p][/quote]Ms Morden writes an article for SWA every month, regularly produces leaflets for her constituents and holds weekly advice surgeries throughout Newport East. Information can be found on her website. Ms Morden is always vocal on issues affecting her constituents, so its surprising that newporteast claims she is only now speaking out because of the General Election next year. Gweneira
  • Score: 18

9:58am Thu 29 May 14

-trigg- says...

Some interesting statistics are starting to emerge from the recent elections. It may interest you to hear that UKIP appear to be taking significant numbers of votes from Labour, particularly in their "heartlands" - those regions where the vast majority would rather cut their hand off than vote for the conservatives.

It seems that people in these regions were simply desperate for a credible alternative to labour to emerge and now that has happened there is a danger of them deserting the red rosette in their droves.

This leaves labour in a tricky position. They don't want to attack UKIP to vociferously, since they are the key to splitting the tory vote in the "home counties" but if they don't, labour are in danger of losing large swathes of Wales and the North.
Some interesting statistics are starting to emerge from the recent elections. It may interest you to hear that UKIP appear to be taking significant numbers of votes from Labour, particularly in their "heartlands" - those regions where the vast majority would rather cut their hand off than vote for the conservatives. It seems that people in these regions were simply desperate for a credible alternative to labour to emerge and now that has happened there is a danger of them deserting the red rosette in their droves. This leaves labour in a tricky position. They don't want to attack UKIP to vociferously, since they are the key to splitting the tory vote in the "home counties" but if they don't, labour are in danger of losing large swathes of Wales and the North. -trigg-
  • Score: -13

10:06am Thu 29 May 14

Mervyn James says...

JanJenkins wrote:
Its funny how people keep referring to Government when problems crop up.
We in Wales are governed by the people in Cardiff of the Welsh Assembly which is run by Labour Party as it always has.
The Welsh Assembly hold the purse strings not London. The local councils again Labour led , set the council tax, council rents . ect.
Wales has always been the same.
When the Assembly (Not government, wales doesn't have one), has the financial means and control over welsh issues then we can rightly criticize when things go wrong, Wales is Labour yes, but the funding to make wales operate is drip fed from Westminster to make it look bad for Wales voting Labour. The UK doesn't HAVE an elected government just an shambolic coalition in disarray. Basically if you are given £50 to buy something that costs twice that, then you aren't going to get what you want, but a poor alternative, this is Wales.
[quote][p][bold]JanJenkins[/bold] wrote: Its funny how people keep referring to Government when problems crop up. We in Wales are governed by the people in Cardiff of the Welsh Assembly which is run by Labour Party as it always has. The Welsh Assembly hold the purse strings not London. The local councils again Labour led , set the council tax, council rents . ect. Wales has always been the same.[/p][/quote]When the Assembly (Not government, wales doesn't have one), has the financial means and control over welsh issues then we can rightly criticize when things go wrong, Wales is Labour yes, but the funding to make wales operate is drip fed from Westminster to make it look bad for Wales voting Labour. The UK doesn't HAVE an elected government just an shambolic coalition in disarray. Basically if you are given £50 to buy something that costs twice that, then you aren't going to get what you want, but a poor alternative, this is Wales. Mervyn James
  • Score: 8

10:10am Thu 29 May 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

chelsea1970 wrote:
It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!!
And you get minuses for posting this?
Just says it all, about people in this part of the Country.
You do the right thing and work for a living and are berated for your comments.
Wales is a failing country with attitudes to match.
[quote][p][bold]chelsea1970[/bold] wrote: It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!![/p][/quote]And you get minuses for posting this? Just says it all, about people in this part of the Country. You do the right thing and work for a living and are berated for your comments. Wales is a failing country with attitudes to match. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: -4

10:23am Mon 2 Jun 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
chelsea1970 wrote:
It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!!
And you get minuses for posting this?
Just says it all, about people in this part of the Country.
You do the right thing and work for a living and are berated for your comments.
Wales is a failing country with attitudes to match.
Thank labour for the benefits culture giving a feeling of entitlement to those who deserve nothing (and to buy their vote obviously) and introducing the minimum wage that has kept unskilled and some skilled jobs low paid, combined with the mass influx of immigrants willing to work for it, yet a high percentage still vote for them because their dad did or because of thatcher 20 years ago, pathetic.

Great job labour.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelsea1970[/bold] wrote: It's a problem with a lot of factors . At end of day wages don't go up but rent and council tax do ? THEY SAY ECONOMY GOING UP yet crime is going up as well . More people coming off job seekers allowance although with new ruling stating you work for nothing to get job seekers allowance ! Myself as never been out of work , got a family and still struggling to pay bills and live . But we do it because we got pride , like I am sure their are many more out their in same predicament as me . It's hard but we do it . So we can say we done it the rite way and not the illegal way . We are wish and proud and we can blame everyone we want ! BUT WE STILL DO IT !!!![/p][/quote]And you get minuses for posting this? Just says it all, about people in this part of the Country. You do the right thing and work for a living and are berated for your comments. Wales is a failing country with attitudes to match.[/p][/quote]Thank labour for the benefits culture giving a feeling of entitlement to those who deserve nothing (and to buy their vote obviously) and introducing the minimum wage that has kept unskilled and some skilled jobs low paid, combined with the mass influx of immigrants willing to work for it, yet a high percentage still vote for them because their dad did or because of thatcher 20 years ago, pathetic. Great job labour. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: -3

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