Caerphilly's Welsh language education plan unveiled

South Wales Argus: Caerphilly's Welsh language education plan unveiled Caerphilly's Welsh language education plan unveiled

PROPOSALS on the use of the Welsh language in education across Caerphilly county borough have been outlined by the local authority.

The Caerphilly Welsh in Education Strategic Plan (WESP) “contains a commitment to meet certain targets for Welsh medium education by 2017”, according to the council.

As part of the proposals, the council will develop Ysgol Gyfun Cwm Rhymi’s Y Gwyndy site to include sixth form provision and relocate Ysgol Gymraeg Caerffili to the site.

The council is also part of the Regional WESP forum, a partnership with the Education Achievement Service, Blaenau Gwent, Monmouthshire, Newport and Torfaen councils, targeting improvements at students aged 14-19 studying subjects and working towards qualifications through the medium of Welsh. The regional partnership will also be tasked with ensuring there are more learners with higher skills in Welsh, as well as ensuring workforce planning and personal development.

Councillor Rhianon Passmore, the council’s cabinet member for education and lifelong learning, said: “This authority has a proud history of supporting the Welsh language, and this statutory plan demonstrates our commitment to providing young people with qualitative access to Welsh medium education.”

The council said it has made a commitment to improve the number of learners at age seven and allow learners to continue to improve their language skills when they move on to secondary school, and will continue to support learners with additional learning needs in Welsh medium provision.

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10:49am Wed 28 May 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Maybe they should focus more on English, maths & science as they are much more likely to get you a job?

I suppose the council and wag have got to waste the tax payers money somewhere.
Maybe they should focus more on English, maths & science as they are much more likely to get you a job? I suppose the council and wag have got to waste the tax payers money somewhere. Good Job No Kids
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11:28am Wed 28 May 14

Nospin_1 says...

All these building re-allocations , closing down old ones and opening new ones is a huge waste of educational resources, FOR WHAT. to accomodate a dead useless language.

A language that would die out without the £bns wasted on it since199. It is no use outside Wales and very little inside Wales. It causes unnecessary expense/waste in public sector to accomodate it (translations, staffing,records).

It is common knowledge kids in EM don't want it, don't use it outside school, to further encourgae them we get "incidental welsh" whereby if Estyn don't hear it being used (casually) out side the classroom the school will be marked down.. THAT IS DISCRIMINATION

Remember all this funding gets stolen from other budgets as it is not Barnet funded., the main one being the big one HEALTH.

I remind you of what NYe said in the debate to appoint the 1st secretary of state for Wales.

quote-
But there is a large body of Welshmen who cannot speak Welsh, and they would immediately be disqualified. Some of our nationalist Friends are making an enclave. They are seeking a closed market, and making quite sure that, if there is to be a Secretary of State for Wales, he shall be Welsh-speaking and Welsh-writing. It would not stop there. It is one of our anxieties that if this thing develops further, all the civil servants appointed would have to be Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing Welshmen. What is the demand? The demand is: How can they understand the peculiar difficulties, distinctions, and characteristics, the penumbra of North Wales and Mid-Wales, unless they can speak the language of the people? The result, of course, is that the whole of the Civil Service of Wales would be eventually provided from those small pockets of Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing zealots, and the vast majority of Welshmen would be denied participation in the government of their country. That is exactly where some of these people are getting. I could give instance after instance to show that. In fact, I could show Department after Department where it is absolutely impossible for Monmouthshire men to get appointments. Exactly, they could learn Welsh. I know that every fanatic falls into exactly the same trap of saying "You can do it on my conditions." That is a situation we are not going to allow to grow up, and in stating that I represent far more Welshmen than do my hon. Friends.

end quote

What foresight.
All these building re-allocations , closing down old ones and opening new ones is a huge waste of educational resources, FOR WHAT. to accomodate a dead useless language. A language that would die out without the £bns wasted on it since199. It is no use outside Wales and very little inside Wales. It causes unnecessary expense/waste in public sector to accomodate it (translations, staffing,records). It is common knowledge kids in EM don't want it, don't use it outside school, to further encourgae them we get "incidental welsh" whereby if Estyn don't hear it being used (casually) out side the classroom the school will be marked down.. THAT IS DISCRIMINATION Remember all this funding gets stolen from other budgets as it is not Barnet funded., the main one being the big one HEALTH. I remind you of what NYe said in the debate to appoint the 1st secretary of state for Wales. quote- But there is a large body of Welshmen who cannot speak Welsh, and they would immediately be disqualified. Some of our nationalist Friends are making an enclave. They are seeking a closed market, and making quite sure that, if there is to be a Secretary of State for Wales, he shall be Welsh-speaking and Welsh-writing. It would not stop there. It is one of our anxieties that if this thing develops further, all the civil servants appointed would have to be Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing Welshmen. What is the demand? The demand is: How can they understand the peculiar difficulties, distinctions, and characteristics, the penumbra of North Wales and Mid-Wales, unless they can speak the language of the people? The result, of course, is that the whole of the Civil Service of Wales would be eventually provided from those small pockets of Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing zealots, and the vast majority of Welshmen would be denied participation in the government of their country. That is exactly where some of these people are getting. I could give instance after instance to show that. In fact, I could show Department after Department where it is absolutely impossible for Monmouthshire men to get appointments. [An HON. MEMBER: "They could learn Welsh?"] Exactly, they could learn Welsh. I know that every fanatic falls into exactly the same trap of saying "You can do it on my conditions." That is a situation we are not going to allow to grow up, and in stating that I represent far more Welshmen than do my hon. Friends. end quote What foresight. Nospin_1
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3:36pm Wed 28 May 14

mal92 says...

dylyfu gên (yawn)
dylyfu gên (yawn) mal92
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Wed 28 May 14

Monmouthshire Merlin says...

Never has so much [ £ ) been owed by so few to so many!
No problem parents having parental choice and choosing welsh medium education.
However, you have no choice if you do not wish your children to participate in Welsh language classes.
DISCRIMINATION!
Never has so much [ £ ) been owed by so few to so many! No problem parents having parental choice and choosing welsh medium education. However, you have no choice if you do not wish your children to participate in Welsh language classes. DISCRIMINATION! Monmouthshire Merlin
  • Score: -3

11:28am Thu 29 May 14

cymrocaerffili says...

Good Job No Kids - the Welsh-medium schools do focus on those subjects which is why those children come out fully bilingual. They also tend to be in the higher bands compared ratio-wise with English-medium schools.

Nospin_1 - really? Insults...that's mature. It is obviously not dead if 25% of our schools in Wales are Welsh-medium and every pupil in English-medium schools are learning it. Plus we do still have S4C; Welsh is used in many organisations - both public and private. I'll say this to you and Monmouthshire Merlin...I hated many subjects in schools, I had no choice and was 'forced' to learn them...should we give children a choice in all their subjects then? Most will not use French, or German...some will never use history or biology, but I'll tell you something...for those who remain in Wales (and most children will) Welsh is more beneficial to them than French, Spanish, German, etc. I learnt French, but the only time I can use it is when I go to France...I live and work in Wales and wish when I was a child that Welsh was taught to me properly as I can use Welsh everyday in my job, but I have to struggle to learn it as an adult. Teaching Welsh to children is easier as children can pick up languages better than adults and many can then pick up a third or fourth language. "Discrimination"? Hardly...you have a choice...English-med
ium or Welsh-medium schools or send your children to schools in England or move to England then you can't get 'offended' by the language of Wales...our language. As an English-speaking Welshman I'm proud of my country, language, culture and history...shame not everyone is it seems.
Good Job No Kids - the Welsh-medium schools do focus on those subjects which is why those children come out fully bilingual. They also tend to be in the higher bands compared ratio-wise with English-medium schools. Nospin_1 - really? Insults...that's mature. It is obviously not dead if 25% of our schools in Wales are Welsh-medium and every pupil in English-medium schools are learning it. Plus we do still have S4C; Welsh is used in many organisations - both public and private. I'll say this to you and Monmouthshire Merlin...I hated many subjects in schools, I had no choice and was 'forced' to learn them...should we give children a choice in all their subjects then? Most will not use French, or German...some will never use history or biology, but I'll tell you something...for those who remain in Wales (and most children will) Welsh is more beneficial to them than French, Spanish, German, etc. I learnt French, but the only time I can use it is when I go to France...I live and work in Wales and wish when I was a child that Welsh was taught to me properly as I can use Welsh everyday in my job, but I have to struggle to learn it as an adult. Teaching Welsh to children is easier as children can pick up languages better than adults and many can then pick up a third or fourth language. "Discrimination"? Hardly...you have a choice...English-med ium or Welsh-medium schools or send your children to schools in England or move to England then you can't get 'offended' by the language of Wales...our language. As an English-speaking Welshman I'm proud of my country, language, culture and history...shame not everyone is it seems. cymrocaerffili
  • Score: 8

9:43am Fri 30 May 14

bugail says...

Nospin_1 wrote:
All these building re-allocations , closing down old ones and opening new ones is a huge waste of educational resources, FOR WHAT. to accomodate a dead useless language.

A language that would die out without the £bns wasted on it since199. It is no use outside Wales and very little inside Wales. It causes unnecessary expense/waste in public sector to accomodate it (translations, staffing,records).

It is common knowledge kids in EM don't want it, don't use it outside school, to further encourgae them we get "incidental welsh" whereby if Estyn don't hear it being used (casually) out side the classroom the school will be marked down.. THAT IS DISCRIMINATION

Remember all this funding gets stolen from other budgets as it is not Barnet funded., the main one being the big one HEALTH.

I remind you of what NYe said in the debate to appoint the 1st secretary of state for Wales.

quote-
But there is a large body of Welshmen who cannot speak Welsh, and they would immediately be disqualified. Some of our nationalist Friends are making an enclave. They are seeking a closed market, and making quite sure that, if there is to be a Secretary of State for Wales, he shall be Welsh-speaking and Welsh-writing. It would not stop there. It is one of our anxieties that if this thing develops further, all the civil servants appointed would have to be Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing Welshmen. What is the demand? The demand is: How can they understand the peculiar difficulties, distinctions, and characteristics, the penumbra of North Wales and Mid-Wales, unless they can speak the language of the people? The result, of course, is that the whole of the Civil Service of Wales would be eventually provided from those small pockets of Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing zealots, and the vast majority of Welshmen would be denied participation in the government of their country. That is exactly where some of these people are getting. I could give instance after instance to show that. In fact, I could show Department after Department where it is absolutely impossible for Monmouthshire men to get appointments. Exactly, they could learn Welsh. I know that every fanatic falls into exactly the same trap of saying "You can do it on my conditions." That is a situation we are not going to allow to grow up, and in stating that I represent far more Welshmen than do my hon. Friends.

end quote

What foresight.
Who gives f*** about about Nye said these days? Oh Nye said this, so it must be right. FFS "Oh but he created the NHS" No he didn't. He was just given the job to do it that was all. He did a complete horlicks of it as well.

I shouldn't be that surprised that he had such intolerant views. He was from Tredegar after all, the town which burnt the Jewish out of their homes in 1911.
[quote][p][bold]Nospin_1[/bold] wrote: All these building re-allocations , closing down old ones and opening new ones is a huge waste of educational resources, FOR WHAT. to accomodate a dead useless language. A language that would die out without the £bns wasted on it since199. It is no use outside Wales and very little inside Wales. It causes unnecessary expense/waste in public sector to accomodate it (translations, staffing,records). It is common knowledge kids in EM don't want it, don't use it outside school, to further encourgae them we get "incidental welsh" whereby if Estyn don't hear it being used (casually) out side the classroom the school will be marked down.. THAT IS DISCRIMINATION Remember all this funding gets stolen from other budgets as it is not Barnet funded., the main one being the big one HEALTH. I remind you of what NYe said in the debate to appoint the 1st secretary of state for Wales. quote- But there is a large body of Welshmen who cannot speak Welsh, and they would immediately be disqualified. Some of our nationalist Friends are making an enclave. They are seeking a closed market, and making quite sure that, if there is to be a Secretary of State for Wales, he shall be Welsh-speaking and Welsh-writing. It would not stop there. It is one of our anxieties that if this thing develops further, all the civil servants appointed would have to be Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing Welshmen. What is the demand? The demand is: How can they understand the peculiar difficulties, distinctions, and characteristics, the penumbra of North Wales and Mid-Wales, unless they can speak the language of the people? The result, of course, is that the whole of the Civil Service of Wales would be eventually provided from those small pockets of Welsh-speaking, Welsh-writing zealots, and the vast majority of Welshmen would be denied participation in the government of their country. That is exactly where some of these people are getting. I could give instance after instance to show that. In fact, I could show Department after Department where it is absolutely impossible for Monmouthshire men to get appointments. [An HON. MEMBER: "They could learn Welsh?"] Exactly, they could learn Welsh. I know that every fanatic falls into exactly the same trap of saying "You can do it on my conditions." That is a situation we are not going to allow to grow up, and in stating that I represent far more Welshmen than do my hon. Friends. end quote What foresight.[/p][/quote]Who gives f*** about about Nye said these days? Oh Nye said this, so it must be right. FFS "Oh but he created the NHS" No he didn't. He was just given the job to do it that was all. He did a complete horlicks of it as well. I shouldn't be that surprised that he had such intolerant views. He was from Tredegar after all, the town which burnt the Jewish out of their homes in 1911. bugail
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