ARGUS COMMENT: Nato summit and protests must not be allowed to bring Newport to a standstill

ARGUS COMMENT: Nato summit and protests must not be allowed to bring Newport to a standstill

ARGUS COMMENT: Nato summit and protests must not be allowed to bring Newport to a standstill

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WE have already stated in this column our belief that September's Nato summit has the potential to bring substantial benefits to Newport and the surrounding area.

Our view on that has not changed.

But today we focus on the potential disruption the Celtic Manor event could bring to the daily lives of the people of Newport.

Yesterday anarchists spoke of their plans to protest against the summit, which will bring up to 60 heads of state, including President Obama, to Newport.

Today we hear from the police chief in charge of the summit, who says it will be the biggest police and security operation ever seen in Wales with thousands of officers from every force in the UK involved.

Clearly a police presence on a massive scale and potentially disruptive - but hopefully lawful - protests could be a heady cocktail.

We understand and support the need for a huge security operation given the scale of the event.

We understand and support the desire among some to protest peacefully against Nato.

But that understanding and support will wear thin if the police operation or the protests prove an intolerable disruption for Newport people going about their daily lives.

People still have to get to work, their children still have to get to school, businesses still have to operate.

Ensuring this happens should be one of the key priorities of those in charge of the summit.

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9:47am Thu 29 May 14

Mervyn James says...

Would anyone notice ?
Would anyone notice ? Mervyn James
  • Score: -4

9:51am Thu 29 May 14

exrisca says...

The main demonstration is apparently on Saturday. Let's hope the Football League give the County an away match that day
The main demonstration is apparently on Saturday. Let's hope the Football League give the County an away match that day exrisca
  • Score: 1

9:54am Thu 29 May 14

Good Job No Kids says...

So let the police do their and job without their hands tied behind their backs.

i.e. not putting up with any messing from the unwashed career protestors, if you act up you're going to a cell simple, one strike and out.
So let the police do their and job without their hands tied behind their backs. i.e. not putting up with any messing from the unwashed career protestors, if you act up you're going to a cell simple, one strike and out. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: -3

10:26am Thu 29 May 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

In view of the fact that so many Argus editorials have in the past condemned attempts at press regulation with outrage by stressing the importance of freedom of speech as something sacred, isn’t affording that right unfettered to a clique of journalists whilst at the same time now (as we see here above) denying it to the masses somewhat hypocritical?
In view of the fact that so many Argus editorials have in the past condemned attempts at press regulation with outrage by stressing the importance of freedom of speech as something sacred, isn’t affording that right unfettered to a clique of journalists whilst at the same time now (as we see here above) denying it to the masses somewhat hypocritical? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 9

10:28am Thu 29 May 14

Mervyn James says...

It's what they do.
It's what they do. Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

10:39am Thu 29 May 14

KarloMarko says...

I would hate the thought of wedding parties and their children blown to mincemeat by Nato drones to dampen the Argus's obvious enthusiasm for promoting Newport commercially.

After all, it's not as if they are your kids and others are well, so lesser.
I would hate the thought of wedding parties and their children blown to mincemeat by Nato drones to dampen the Argus's obvious enthusiasm for promoting Newport commercially. After all, it's not as if they are your kids and others are well, so lesser. KarloMarko
  • Score: -1

10:42am Thu 29 May 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.
I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives. Kevin Ward - Editor
  • Score: 12

10:48am Thu 29 May 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

Karlo
The leap from the content of our comment to the content of yours is somewhat fantastical, to say the least.
Karlo The leap from the content of our comment to the content of yours is somewhat fantastical, to say the least. Kevin Ward - Editor
  • Score: 19

10:49am Thu 29 May 14

DDDog1 says...

Just like the Ryder cup I expect this will have no benefit to Newport what's so ever,the only people who will will be Terry Matthews and is Usk vale hotel.
Just like the Ryder cup I expect this will have no benefit to Newport what's so ever,the only people who will will be Terry Matthews and is Usk vale hotel. DDDog1
  • Score: 12

10:59am Thu 29 May 14

Lliswerry Man says...

I do not think it was designed to have a benefit to all, its a by product if it does. The event was simply being held here.
What worries me the most is not so much the demonstrators, whatever their financial background, but the disruptions they will cause to our already Fragile Traffic System.
Businesses lose a lot of money when traffic grinds to a halt, families suffer trying to get children to and from school, babysitters and carers, along with trying to get to work.
Then we have all the emergency vehicles trying to get around, Fire, Ambulance etc. lets not forget, there are plenty of women back and forth the hospitals, whom are pregnant, and many elderly and disabled people in need of care. This really could turn into a disaster.

I hope the Police will be completely on top of things, along with ALL agencies, and innocent members of the public are allowed to go about their daily lives unhindered.
I do not think it was designed to have a benefit to all, its a by product if it does. The event was simply being held here. What worries me the most is not so much the demonstrators, whatever their financial background, but the disruptions they will cause to our already Fragile Traffic System. Businesses lose a lot of money when traffic grinds to a halt, families suffer trying to get children to and from school, babysitters and carers, along with trying to get to work. Then we have all the emergency vehicles trying to get around, Fire, Ambulance etc. lets not forget, there are plenty of women back and forth the hospitals, whom are pregnant, and many elderly and disabled people in need of care. This really could turn into a disaster. I hope the Police will be completely on top of things, along with ALL agencies, and innocent members of the public are allowed to go about their daily lives unhindered. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 18

12:21pm Thu 29 May 14

throwy1 says...

Why should traffic and Newport grind to a halt? IO would have thought all those attending will arrive by air at either Cardiff or Bristol and then be helicoptered directly to The Manor.
Why should traffic and Newport grind to a halt? IO would have thought all those attending will arrive by air at either Cardiff or Bristol and then be helicoptered directly to The Manor. throwy1
  • Score: 5

12:28pm Thu 29 May 14

KarloMarko says...

Let us praise famous men...

"The cost of Britain’s interventions in
Iraq and Afghanistan has reached
almost £30bn – or £1,000 for every
taxpayer in the country, a respected
defence think-tank claims.

As British forces prepare to pull out
of Afghanistan, the Royal United
Services Institute has calculated
that the UK’s contribution to the
US-led campaign in the country
between 2006 and 2013 was
£19.59bn. The cost of operations in
Iraq between 2003 and 2009 was
£9.56bn, the organisation added.
The total bill does not include this
year’s cost of the withdrawal from
Afghanistan.

The estimate is contained in a new
book analysing the success and
failure of Britain’s military
operations since the end of the Cold
War." ...Independent yesterday.

And the there is the c. 1 million civilian lives lost in Iraq alone...UK Lancet surveys.

What is there not to like?
Let us praise famous men... "The cost of Britain’s interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan has reached almost £30bn – or £1,000 for every taxpayer in the country, a respected defence think-tank claims. As British forces prepare to pull out of Afghanistan, the Royal United Services Institute has calculated that the UK’s contribution to the US-led campaign in the country between 2006 and 2013 was £19.59bn. The cost of operations in Iraq between 2003 and 2009 was £9.56bn, the organisation added. The total bill does not include this year’s cost of the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The estimate is contained in a new book analysing the success and failure of Britain’s military operations since the end of the Cold War." ...Independent yesterday. And the there is the c. 1 million civilian lives lost in Iraq alone...UK Lancet surveys. What is there not to like? KarloMarko
  • Score: -5

1:04pm Thu 29 May 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Let's be honest here. An event like this has the possibility, one might even be tempted to say, the likelihood of quite a lot of disruption. That's what happens when NATO comes to town. Whichever country they have their little get togethers in.

I wonder if people would be so worried about disruption if NATO were meeting to discuss bombing British homes and families, murdering British men, women and children, and dividing up British markets and resources between themselves as the spoils.
Let's be honest here. An event like this has the possibility, one might even be tempted to say, the likelihood of quite a lot of disruption. That's what happens when NATO comes to town. Whichever country they have their little get togethers in. I wonder if people would be so worried about disruption if NATO were meeting to discuss bombing British homes and families, murdering British men, women and children, and dividing up British markets and resources between themselves as the spoils. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: -11

1:07pm Thu 29 May 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.
Apologies, as I actually missed that bit Kevin. Fair enough, your editorial above does clearly state that.

I still feel a bit wary though, if everyone else's freedom of expression needs to be regulated because they cannot be trusted to regulate themselves owing to the fact that some might abuse this right, then what was wrong with Leveson recommending precisely the same as applied to the press? After all, the rationale behind the Leveson proposals was that elements of the press can cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives, too? The activities of journalists can also pose a risk to national security and the safety of society as a whole.

Therefore, why not the same equal law for everybody - whether protestor or journalist? Surely, if one makes an exception for the press and allows them to regulate themselves whilst the rest of us are regulated externally then we are in danger of creating a privileged class that has freedom without responsibility.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.[/p][/quote]Apologies, as I actually missed that bit Kevin. Fair enough, your editorial above does clearly state that. I still feel a bit wary though, if everyone else's freedom of expression needs to be regulated because they cannot be trusted to regulate themselves owing to the fact that some might abuse this right, then what was wrong with Leveson recommending precisely the same as applied to the press? After all, the rationale behind the Leveson proposals was that elements of the press can cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives, too? The activities of journalists can also pose a risk to national security and the safety of society as a whole. Therefore, why not the same equal law for everybody - whether protestor or journalist? Surely, if one makes an exception for the press and allows them to regulate themselves whilst the rest of us are regulated externally then we are in danger of creating a privileged class that has freedom without responsibility. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -4

1:14pm Thu 29 May 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

Katie
It is the same law for everyone already, with no exceptions.
My journalists are regulated by the law, as is everyone else in this country.
And as someone who grew up in a corporation house in Cwmbran, I'm quite amused to be thought of as being in a 'privileged class'.
Katie It is the same law for everyone already, with no exceptions. My journalists are regulated by the law, as is everyone else in this country. And as someone who grew up in a corporation house in Cwmbran, I'm quite amused to be thought of as being in a 'privileged class'. Kevin Ward - Editor
  • Score: 3

1:28pm Thu 29 May 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
Katie
It is the same law for everyone already, with no exceptions.
My journalists are regulated by the law, as is everyone else in this country.
And as someone who grew up in a corporation house in Cwmbran, I'm quite amused to be thought of as being in a 'privileged class'.
Actually Kevin, the 'privileged class' comment wasn't aimed at you personally and wasn't actually referring to 'privilege' in that context. Someone can be privileged in other ways as well as economic - for instance, male privilege etc... You do have to admit though, that if you take a look at the editors and journalists who dominate our national newspapers a very large percentage of them went to expensive top public schools. Hardly the authentic voice of the people, one might reasonably assume?
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: Katie It is the same law for everyone already, with no exceptions. My journalists are regulated by the law, as is everyone else in this country. And as someone who grew up in a corporation house in Cwmbran, I'm quite amused to be thought of as being in a 'privileged class'.[/p][/quote]Actually Kevin, the 'privileged class' comment wasn't aimed at you personally and wasn't actually referring to 'privilege' in that context. Someone can be privileged in other ways as well as economic - for instance, male privilege etc... You do have to admit though, that if you take a look at the editors and journalists who dominate our national newspapers a very large percentage of them went to expensive top public schools. Hardly the authentic voice of the people, one might reasonably assume? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -3

5:31pm Thu 29 May 14

Woodgnome says...

Lliswerry Man wrote:
I do not think it was designed to have a benefit to all, its a by product if it does. The event was simply being held here.
What worries me the most is not so much the demonstrators, whatever their financial background, but the disruptions they will cause to our already Fragile Traffic System.
Businesses lose a lot of money when traffic grinds to a halt, families suffer trying to get children to and from school, babysitters and carers, along with trying to get to work.
Then we have all the emergency vehicles trying to get around, Fire, Ambulance etc. lets not forget, there are plenty of women back and forth the hospitals, whom are pregnant, and many elderly and disabled people in need of care. This really could turn into a disaster.

I hope the Police will be completely on top of things, along with ALL agencies, and innocent members of the public are allowed to go about their daily lives unhindered.
I agree- you do like rules and public order that benefit the majority in some situations then?
[quote][p][bold]Lliswerry Man[/bold] wrote: I do not think it was designed to have a benefit to all, its a by product if it does. The event was simply being held here. What worries me the most is not so much the demonstrators, whatever their financial background, but the disruptions they will cause to our already Fragile Traffic System. Businesses lose a lot of money when traffic grinds to a halt, families suffer trying to get children to and from school, babysitters and carers, along with trying to get to work. Then we have all the emergency vehicles trying to get around, Fire, Ambulance etc. lets not forget, there are plenty of women back and forth the hospitals, whom are pregnant, and many elderly and disabled people in need of care. This really could turn into a disaster. I hope the Police will be completely on top of things, along with ALL agencies, and innocent members of the public are allowed to go about their daily lives unhindered.[/p][/quote]I agree- you do like rules and public order that benefit the majority in some situations then? Woodgnome
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Thu 29 May 14

Magor says...

Waste of time protesting,what will change? Nothing
Waste of time protesting,what will change? Nothing Magor
  • Score: -1

7:27pm Thu 29 May 14

Mervyn James says...

It won't change anything if we don't. If nothing else we can register our dissatisfaction. (Are these the same people that created WW3 over a few tiles in a subway...!). Perspectives seems a little weird in Newport. These World clowns are playing games with our lives.... None of them can turn up with any honour at all. They are all war criminals.
It won't change anything if we don't. If nothing else we can register our dissatisfaction. (Are these the same people that created WW3 over a few tiles in a subway...!). Perspectives seems a little weird in Newport. These World clowns are playing games with our lives.... None of them can turn up with any honour at all. They are all war criminals. Mervyn James
  • Score: -3

10:39pm Thu 29 May 14

regaturn says...

I was speaking to an officer yesterday who is involved in the NATO planning, his advice was, ' if you live in Caerleon or Langstone, try and get way for a week or so it's going to be a nightmare'
I was speaking to an officer yesterday who is involved in the NATO planning, his advice was, ' if you live in Caerleon or Langstone, try and get way for a week or so it's going to be a nightmare' regaturn
  • Score: 5

7:13am Fri 30 May 14

Casnewydd lad says...

DDDog1 wrote:
Just like the Ryder cup I expect this will have no benefit to Newport what's so ever,the only people who will will be Terry Matthews and is Usk vale hotel.
Couldn't agree more, there was so much hype about the Ryder cup coming to newport with all the new roads being update ( around the Celtic manor) we were told its worth it as it' ll bring in so much money and put newport on the map, what a wet **** it was and I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be the same hype about this NATO meeting as there was about the Ryder cup, newport council now know they can't sell us like that again, once bitten.............
[quote][p][bold]DDDog1[/bold] wrote: Just like the Ryder cup I expect this will have no benefit to Newport what's so ever,the only people who will will be Terry Matthews and is Usk vale hotel.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, there was so much hype about the Ryder cup coming to newport with all the new roads being update ( around the Celtic manor) we were told its worth it as it' ll bring in so much money and put newport on the map, what a wet **** it was and I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be the same hype about this NATO meeting as there was about the Ryder cup, newport council now know they can't sell us like that again, once bitten............. Casnewydd lad
  • Score: 6

10:23am Fri 30 May 14

displayed says...

"Nato summit and protests must not be allowed to bring Newport to a standstill"

That's exactly what the whole fiasco is "designed" to do!
"Nato summit and protests must not be allowed to bring Newport to a standstill" That's exactly what the whole fiasco is "designed" to do! displayed
  • Score: 0

10:28am Fri 30 May 14

displayed says...

"What is there not to like?"
Your on the wrong thread :
Karl on your Marks!
"What is there not to like?" Your on the wrong thread : Karl on your Marks! displayed
  • Score: 0

11:42am Fri 30 May 14

Mervyn James says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.
Taken to ultimate conclusion it actually prevents any demo being effective at all, unless you CAN make protest what is the point. It is like saying OK protest, but nowhere where it can be effective or seen. They won't be able to go to Fawlty towers near Coldra, they won't be allowed to demo outside it,now you say they shouldn't be allowed to demo in Newport itself ? The law is an **** basically designed to prevent lawful demonstration. I will be supporting the demo to make it as unpleasant for Obama and Co to feel they can get away with declaring he speaks for us. They aint the be-all, end-all anymore. And they only act in own interests anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.[/p][/quote]Taken to ultimate conclusion it actually prevents any demo being effective at all, unless you CAN make protest what is the point. It is like saying OK protest, but nowhere where it can be effective or seen. They won't be able to go to Fawlty towers near Coldra, they won't be allowed to demo outside it,now you say they shouldn't be allowed to demo in Newport itself ? The law is an **** basically designed to prevent lawful demonstration. I will be supporting the demo to make it as unpleasant for Obama and Co to feel they can get away with declaring he speaks for us. They aint the be-all, end-all anymore. And they only act in own interests anyway. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Fri 30 May 14

artsfan says...

Unlike the Ryder Cup, not only fatcat Terry Matthews (who already benefits from handouts from the Welsh Assembly Government), but also other businesses in Newport WILL benefit. There will be many protesters from all over the world spending their hard-earned money here. These pacifists will likely be bullied, beaten up, arrested by violent police officers. The warmongering NATO heads of state and war criminals will be kow-towed to by all.

I wonder how residents react when we have anti-fracking protesters coming to Newport. Will they again be slagged off for trying to protect our health and wellbeing, our wetlands, possibly our very lives? Will the majority of Newportonions still be sat on their backsides complaining and letting outsiders fight their battles for them?

Newportonions should welcome the protesters into this city with open arms.
Unlike the Ryder Cup, not only fatcat Terry Matthews (who already benefits from handouts from the Welsh Assembly Government), but also other businesses in Newport WILL benefit. There will be many protesters from all over the world spending their hard-earned money here. These pacifists will likely be bullied, beaten up, arrested by violent police officers. The warmongering NATO heads of state and war criminals will be kow-towed to by all. I wonder how residents react when we have anti-fracking protesters coming to Newport. Will they again be slagged off for trying to protect our health and wellbeing, our wetlands, possibly our very lives? Will the majority of Newportonions still be sat on their backsides complaining and letting outsiders fight their battles for them? Newportonions should welcome the protesters into this city with open arms. artsfan
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Fri 30 May 14

artsfan says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.
Kevin, it seems that you are suggesting that the police will be acting in a lawful manner. How many large protests have you been to? Have you actually been to ANY where the police acted within the law?
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.[/p][/quote]Kevin, it seems that you are suggesting that the police will be acting in a lawful manner. How many large protests have you been to? Have you actually been to ANY where the police acted within the law? artsfan
  • Score: -5

10:52pm Sat 31 May 14

JanJenkins says...

My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through.
Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.!
My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through. Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.! JanJenkins
  • Score: 3

6:57am Mon 2 Jun 14

artsfan says...

JanJenkins, I really sympathise with your son and other people who will be adversely affected by the NATO summit, both financially and otherwise. 'Sir' Terry Matthews, who I believe now spends most of his time in Canada, has recently received a £500,000 grant from the Welsh Assembly Government to help along his business and it's not the first time he's had funding from them either. Obviously his is more deserving than other businesses in the city. In times of austerity it seems the rich suffer most and need the money more.
JanJenkins, I really sympathise with your son and other people who will be adversely affected by the NATO summit, both financially and otherwise. 'Sir' Terry Matthews, who I believe now spends most of his time in Canada, has recently received a £500,000 grant from the Welsh Assembly Government to help along his business and it's not the first time he's had funding from them either. Obviously his is more deserving than other businesses in the city. In times of austerity it seems the rich suffer most and need the money more. artsfan
  • Score: 6

8:36am Mon 2 Jun 14

displayed says...

JanJenkins wrote:
My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through.
Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.!
"Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant"
The last time I looked on a map (a few mins ago) Bulmore Rd was in Caerleon.
I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................
.....
[quote][p][bold]JanJenkins[/bold] wrote: My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through. Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.![/p][/quote]"Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant" The last time I looked on a map (a few mins ago) Bulmore Rd was in Caerleon. I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................ ..... displayed
  • Score: -1

8:54am Mon 2 Jun 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

artsfan wrote:
Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.
Kevin, it seems that you are suggesting that the police will be acting in a lawful manner. How many large protests have you been to? Have you actually been to ANY where the police acted within the law?
Of course, the police should just stand around and do nothing.
After all, they are now only a bunch of politically correct social workers answerable to the masses for every action they carry out.
I expect that the protesters will be acting within the law though so that makes it alright.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: I don't understand your comment Katie. We've clearly said we support the rights of protesters - providing they are lawful and they (and the police operation) do not cause intolerable disruption to people's everyday lives.[/p][/quote]Kevin, it seems that you are suggesting that the police will be acting in a lawful manner. How many large protests have you been to? Have you actually been to ANY where the police acted within the law?[/p][/quote]Of course, the police should just stand around and do nothing. After all, they are now only a bunch of politically correct social workers answerable to the masses for every action they carry out. I expect that the protesters will be acting within the law though so that makes it alright. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

8:59am Mon 2 Jun 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

artsfan wrote:
JanJenkins, I really sympathise with your son and other people who will be adversely affected by the NATO summit, both financially and otherwise. 'Sir' Terry Matthews, who I believe now spends most of his time in Canada, has recently received a £500,000 grant from the Welsh Assembly Government to help along his business and it's not the first time he's had funding from them either. Obviously his is more deserving than other businesses in the city. In times of austerity it seems the rich suffer most and need the money more.
Of course, Terry Matthews has put none of his own money in to the Celtic Manor.
Shame on him for for siting his business in Wales and taking advantage of us.
Give all his grants to the Communist Party, that would be money well spent.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: JanJenkins, I really sympathise with your son and other people who will be adversely affected by the NATO summit, both financially and otherwise. 'Sir' Terry Matthews, who I believe now spends most of his time in Canada, has recently received a £500,000 grant from the Welsh Assembly Government to help along his business and it's not the first time he's had funding from them either. Obviously his is more deserving than other businesses in the city. In times of austerity it seems the rich suffer most and need the money more.[/p][/quote]Of course, Terry Matthews has put none of his own money in to the Celtic Manor. Shame on him for for siting his business in Wales and taking advantage of us. Give all his grants to the Communist Party, that would be money well spent. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

10:38am Mon 2 Jun 14

Good Job No Kids says...

displayed wrote:
JanJenkins wrote:
My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through.
Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.!
"Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant"
The last time I looked on a map (a few mins ago) Bulmore Rd was in Caerleon.
I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................

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Bulmore road runs from Caerleon to Usk.

Lantrisant is just past Newbridge on Usk if you are travelling from Caerleon.

"I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................ ....."

Sorry to disappoint but you are wrong.
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JanJenkins[/bold] wrote: My self employed son has a business just off Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant. He will get a pass to go to work, but as to how his customers are supposed to get through cordons nobody seems to have the answer too, or how far down Bulmore Road will be closed. There are a number of businesses on his estate all dependent on customers being able to get access. But of course they won't be able to get through. Another lost week of trade, we had enough losses when the Usk was flooding the roads for 6 weeks over Christmas and January when the roads were not passable, he had to wade through the water to get to his workshop. Don't work, You Don't get paid.![/p][/quote]"Bulmore Rd at Llantrisant" The last time I looked on a map (a few mins ago) Bulmore Rd was in Caerleon. I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................ .....[/p][/quote]Bulmore road runs from Caerleon to Usk. Lantrisant is just past Newbridge on Usk if you are travelling from Caerleon. "I have been known to be wrong, but not in this case................ ....." Sorry to disappoint but you are wrong. Good Job No Kids
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8:34pm Tue 3 Jun 14

JanJenkins says...

DISPLAYED.
Bulmore road runs from B4236 New Rd Caerleon, Bottom of Belmont Hill Caerleon, all along the Usk River to HM Prison on Maryport Street Usk. His business Is on Church Farm Industrial Estate, Llantrisant on Usk. A J Engines. Its even on your Google map.
The Road was blocked off at the turning for Newbridge on Usk Pub, Which belongs to the Celtic Manor when any Golf is on, in fact when a sparrow far*** the road is closed for security of the Celtic manor.
DISPLAYED. Bulmore road runs from B4236 New Rd Caerleon, Bottom of Belmont Hill Caerleon, all along the Usk River to HM Prison on Maryport Street Usk. His business Is on Church Farm Industrial Estate, Llantrisant on Usk. A J Engines. Its even on your Google map. The Road was blocked off at the turning for Newbridge on Usk Pub, Which belongs to the Celtic Manor when any Golf is on, in fact when a sparrow far*** the road is closed for security of the Celtic manor. JanJenkins
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4:51pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Roger Elliot says...

This is not in fact "NATO" as we are being told. That is but a smokescreen. Newport is in fact being visited by The Bildenberg Group, the secret occult rulers of the world. They always meet at a 5 star hotel with a golf course, wherein they sacrifice children to their Owl God, in a bizarre centuries old Pagan Ritual called "The Cremation of Care." Read "THEM" by Cardiff's own Jon Ronson, it is all there in black and white.
This is not in fact "NATO" as we are being told. That is but a smokescreen. Newport is in fact being visited by The Bildenberg Group, the secret occult rulers of the world. They always meet at a 5 star hotel with a golf course, wherein they sacrifice children to their Owl God, in a bizarre centuries old Pagan Ritual called "The Cremation of Care." Read "THEM" by Cardiff's own Jon Ronson, it is all there in black and white. Roger Elliot
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9:16am Thu 5 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
This is not in fact "NATO" as we are being told. That is but a smokescreen. Newport is in fact being visited by The Bildenberg Group, the secret occult rulers of the world. They always meet at a 5 star hotel with a golf course, wherein they sacrifice children to their Owl God, in a bizarre centuries old Pagan Ritual called "The Cremation of Care." Read "THEM" by Cardiff's own Jon Ronson, it is all there in black and white.
Can anyone join ? looks like fun...
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: This is not in fact "NATO" as we are being told. That is but a smokescreen. Newport is in fact being visited by The Bildenberg Group, the secret occult rulers of the world. They always meet at a 5 star hotel with a golf course, wherein they sacrifice children to their Owl God, in a bizarre centuries old Pagan Ritual called "The Cremation of Care." Read "THEM" by Cardiff's own Jon Ronson, it is all there in black and white.[/p][/quote]Can anyone join ? looks like fun... Mervyn James
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