UKIP just a fad

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WHAT an unedifying sight to see all the political parties thrashing about after UKIP’s success in the European and English council elections.

We’ve seen it all before.

I firmly believe that UKIP will be a passing phase like the BNP. The people of Wales and Britain have a proud tradition of welcoming refugees – the Irish fleeing the potato famine, Jews escaping the Nazi horror, Ugandan Asians forced to leave by Idi Amin. Senior Tory politicians predicted rivers of blood; but those refugees have enriched our communities and created the tolerant society we value.

Enjoy your little spot in the sun while you can, Nigel Farage. Your party will end up in the political dustbin, after it tears itself apart like all the others.

Ray Davies Pandy Road Caerphilly

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2:38pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

UKIP is not just for Christmas it is here to say. It has robust and sensible and fair policies on migration. It will take those on minimum pay out of the tax bracket all together. It will clamp down on Health tourism to prevent abuse of our over burdened NHS. It will ensure migrants and our our people do not abuse the befits system
UKIP is not just for Christmas it is here to say. It has robust and sensible and fair policies on migration. It will take those on minimum pay out of the tax bracket all together. It will clamp down on Health tourism to prevent abuse of our over burdened NHS. It will ensure migrants and our our people do not abuse the befits system Bobevans
  • Score: 15

2:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

sillybilly43 says...

Back to reality.shall we? Overcrowded schools/hospitals. Shortage of housing. The idealistic picture you paint, is fine, BUT the examples you gave Ugandan refugees e.t.c were decades ago, before the gates were opened to ALL from the 4 corners of the world .
Back to reality.shall we? Overcrowded schools/hospitals. Shortage of housing. The idealistic picture you paint, is fine, BUT the examples you gave Ugandan refugees e.t.c were decades ago, before the gates were opened to ALL from the 4 corners of the world . sillybilly43
  • Score: 20

3:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Crossbenchtory says...

You obviously miss the entire point about UKIP.

As someone who voted UKIP in the Euro elections, and intends to continue voting UKIP in General and Assembly elections, it is about more than immigration.

We have got to the point in this country where anyone who dares speak out against the conventional wisdom is labelled racist, homophobic, sexist or any number of other epithets currently utilised by the trendy left.

Just look at Leanne Wood labelling UKIP voters "un-Welsh" or Nick Clegg labelling us "un-patriotic". Well I can assure both of these individuals that I am both Welsh and patriotic.

UKIP is simply a good old fashioned, common sense, political party with a leadership and hierarchy who have not all gone straight from university into political advisor jobs whilst waiting for safe seats to become available to them. They are people who have been out in the real world and thus are capable of finding real world solutions rather than viewing the world through the lens of of political theory.
You obviously miss the entire point about UKIP. As someone who voted UKIP in the Euro elections, and intends to continue voting UKIP in General and Assembly elections, it is about more than immigration. We have got to the point in this country where anyone who dares speak out against the conventional wisdom is labelled racist, homophobic, sexist or any number of other epithets currently utilised by the trendy left. Just look at Leanne Wood labelling UKIP voters "un-Welsh" or Nick Clegg labelling us "un-patriotic". Well I can assure both of these individuals that I am both Welsh and patriotic. UKIP is simply a good old fashioned, common sense, political party with a leadership and hierarchy who have not all gone straight from university into political advisor jobs whilst waiting for safe seats to become available to them. They are people who have been out in the real world and thus are capable of finding real world solutions rather than viewing the world through the lens of of political theory. Crossbenchtory
  • Score: 22

3:42pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Votefornoneoftheabove says...

Ray Davies, isn't he one of the Labour councillors for Caerphilly.

Mr Farage must have him and other Labour stalwarts rattled and not just the Conservatives, after all Jayne Bryant wasn't elected in the Euro elections.

Wasn't it Mr Blair who helped relax border controls when he was in power, thus creating school place shortages, house prices to boom, local services to be affected the health service to be put under even more pressure, wages dampened down because of cheaper labour?

He may well be right that UKIP indeed could be a fad, but he has to stand up along with all Labour members and say sorry we got it wrong when we were in power. If it was not for these mistakes then Mr Farage would not have the platform to stand on.

The Conservatives ( I don't vote for them ) have also had to sort out the mess left behind because of Messrs Blair and Brown too.

When I think of the Labour party and it's members I think of Elton John, didn't he say, "sorry seems to be the hardest word" Perhaps Ed can use it during his 2015 election campaign?
Ray Davies, isn't he one of the Labour councillors for Caerphilly. Mr Farage must have him and other Labour stalwarts rattled and not just the Conservatives, after all Jayne Bryant wasn't elected in the Euro elections. Wasn't it Mr Blair who helped relax border controls when he was in power, thus creating school place shortages, house prices to boom, local services to be affected the health service to be put under even more pressure, wages dampened down because of cheaper labour? He may well be right that UKIP indeed could be a fad, but he has to stand up along with all Labour members and say sorry we got it wrong when we were in power. If it was not for these mistakes then Mr Farage would not have the platform to stand on. The Conservatives ( I don't vote for them ) have also had to sort out the mess left behind because of Messrs Blair and Brown too. When I think of the Labour party and it's members I think of Elton John, didn't he say, "sorry seems to be the hardest word" Perhaps Ed can use it during his 2015 election campaign? Votefornoneoftheabove
  • Score: 18

5:05pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Kirk D says...

Crossbenchtory, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. As a UKIP activist in Sussex I can say that I know plenty of members, who like you say, are just ordinary folk who are standing up for our countries sovereign rights. If the likes Of Jean Claude Junker get elected to the European Commission Presidency, David Cameron will find it next to impossible to re-negotiate our terms of membership to the satisfaction of the British electorate. He is a federalist and wants to see much greater political integration. The public will not stand for more Europe, so under those circumstances I would welcome his 'election'. It could well spell the beginning ofbthe end of our sorry inclusion in the European Empire.

I also agree that we have always welcomed migrants with open arms.........but not 4 million in 17 years. It is asking far too much for our people to accommodate such an exodus from Europe & other places. It puts a strain on everything.......inc
luding I'm sad to say our tolerance. It's long been time to say enough is enough. We don't need Labourites telling us we are intolerant.......it won't wash with the great British public!

I urge all Welsh folk to join UKIP & help us regain our sovereign rights and democracy!
Crossbenchtory, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. As a UKIP activist in Sussex I can say that I know plenty of members, who like you say, are just ordinary folk who are standing up for our countries sovereign rights. If the likes Of Jean Claude Junker get elected to the European Commission Presidency, David Cameron will find it next to impossible to re-negotiate our terms of membership to the satisfaction of the British electorate. He is a federalist and wants to see much greater political integration. The public will not stand for more Europe, so under those circumstances I would welcome his 'election'. It could well spell the beginning ofbthe end of our sorry inclusion in the European Empire. I also agree that we have always welcomed migrants with open arms.........but not 4 million in 17 years. It is asking far too much for our people to accommodate such an exodus from Europe & other places. It puts a strain on everything.......inc luding I'm sad to say our tolerance. It's long been time to say enough is enough. We don't need Labourites telling us we are intolerant.......it won't wash with the great British public! I urge all Welsh folk to join UKIP & help us regain our sovereign rights and democracy! Kirk D
  • Score: 13

9:04pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Ukip unveils new top team

Suzanne Evans

A Tory defector who has only been in the party for a year. She was rapidly appointed national communities spokesman.

A former BBC reporter who now runs a PR agency, she has won plaudits within the party for her confidence in front of the camera.

Steven Woolfe

A barrister from Manchester whose father was mixed-race and mother was white. He was invited to become financial services spokesman before he had even joined Ukip.

Now an MEP, his ethnicity and northern upbringing are in strong contrast to the Ukip stereotype.

Patrick O’Flynn

A former Daily Express journalist who became Ukip’s director of communications and was a strategist behind the Euro-elections campaign.

An experienced performer on television who is close to Mr Farage. With his media background he could become a culture spokesman.

Amjid Bashir

A restaurateur of Pakistani lineage who is one three Ukip MEPs representing Yorkshire and the Humber and currently speaks for the party on small business.

After his election he said: “Here I am... of Asian birth, of Asian parentage, Muslim, and I have been selected by this so-called racist party. It disproves that completely.”

Margot Parker

A local businesswoman who impressed Ukip’s hierarchy with her spirited campaign in the Corby and East Northants by-election 18 months ago. She was elected as an MEP for the East Midlands last week. She has a no-nonsense style which party chiefs believe will be persuasive on the national stage.

Louise Bours

Until her combative appearance alongside Piers Morgan and Joey Barton on Question Time last Thursday, she was one of Ukip’s lesser-known faces. The new MEP for the north-west is a former actress whose full name is Louise van de Bours. Her northern credentials could come in handy in wooing Labour-leaning voters.

Paul Nuttall

Long serving activist from Merseyside who became Ukip’s chairman in 2008 and deputy leader two years later.

He is a key weapon in the party’s attempts to broaden its appeal to working-class voters in the North of England.
Ukip unveils new top team Suzanne Evans A Tory defector who has only been in the party for a year. She was rapidly appointed national communities spokesman. A former BBC reporter who now runs a PR agency, she has won plaudits within the party for her confidence in front of the camera. Steven Woolfe A barrister from Manchester whose father was mixed-race and mother was white. He was invited to become financial services spokesman before he had even joined Ukip. Now an MEP, his ethnicity and northern upbringing are in strong contrast to the Ukip stereotype. Patrick O’Flynn A former Daily Express journalist who became Ukip’s director of communications and was a strategist behind the Euro-elections campaign. An experienced performer on television who is close to Mr Farage. With his media background he could become a culture spokesman. Amjid Bashir A restaurateur of Pakistani lineage who is one three Ukip MEPs representing Yorkshire and the Humber and currently speaks for the party on small business. After his election he said: “Here I am... of Asian birth, of Asian parentage, Muslim, and I have been selected by this so-called racist party. It disproves that completely.” Margot Parker A local businesswoman who impressed Ukip’s hierarchy with her spirited campaign in the Corby and East Northants by-election 18 months ago. She was elected as an MEP for the East Midlands last week. She has a no-nonsense style which party chiefs believe will be persuasive on the national stage. Louise Bours Until her combative appearance alongside Piers Morgan and Joey Barton on Question Time last Thursday, she was one of Ukip’s lesser-known faces. The new MEP for the north-west is a former actress whose full name is Louise van de Bours. Her northern credentials could come in handy in wooing Labour-leaning voters. Paul Nuttall Long serving activist from Merseyside who became Ukip’s chairman in 2008 and deputy leader two years later. He is a key weapon in the party’s attempts to broaden its appeal to working-class voters in the North of England. Bobevans
  • Score: 6

9:56pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Limestonecowboy says...

The European elections were not a true reflection just UKIP voters coming out en mass while main stream voters didn't - it will be different at the gen. election.
The European elections were not a true reflection just UKIP voters coming out en mass while main stream voters didn't - it will be different at the gen. election. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: -7

3:02pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Kirk D says...

You few, you happy few, you band of brothers;For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,This day shall gentle his condition:And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon the field of Newark!

Good luck Roger Helmer.........Rober
t 'Generic' is a faker! He's a green horn toff with no interest in Newark, no experience in politics & never has he had a proper job.......if there's any justice UKIP should take the seat!
You few, you happy few, you band of brothers;For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,This day shall gentle his condition:And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon the field of Newark! Good luck Roger Helmer.........Rober t 'Generic' is a faker! He's a green horn toff with no interest in Newark, no experience in politics & never has he had a proper job.......if there's any justice UKIP should take the seat! Kirk D
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Kirk D says...

I love this quote from Mrs Merkel:

"In all the talks that I hold, I am working to ensure Jean-Claude Juncker gets the necessary majority in the council, in order to become the next president of the European Commission,” Mrs Merkel said. 

If Junker is elected Britain can effectively say goodbye to the EU!
I love this quote from Mrs Merkel: "In all the talks that I hold, I am working to ensure Jean-Claude Juncker gets the necessary majority in the council, in order to become the next president of the European Commission,” Mrs Merkel said.  If Junker is elected Britain can effectively say goodbye to the EU! Kirk D
  • Score: 1

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