Traffic survey causes long delays in Newport

QUEUES: Traffic building up on Cardiff Road in Newport this morning

QUEUES: Traffic building up on Cardiff Road in Newport this morning

First published in News

THERE were long tailbacks on Cardiff Road in Newport this morning as researchers were stopping cars as part of a traffic survey in Newport.

A similar exercise was held on George Street bridge yesterday, with further surveys planned for Forge Road in Bassaleg, the SDR, Heidenheim Drive and Malpas Road.

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10:10am Wed 4 Jun 14

john.hall1000 says...

Researchers stopplng traffic causes delays, eait until September ehen the NATO summit is on Newport will be gridlocked. It's ok for the police saying things will be has normal, but we all know one road closure and newport is a mess!.
Researchers stopplng traffic causes delays, eait until September ehen the NATO summit is on Newport will be gridlocked. It's ok for the police saying things will be has normal, but we all know one road closure and newport is a mess!. john.hall1000
  • Score: 38

10:40am Wed 4 Jun 14

julie60h says...

I had no idea this was happening and got stuck for 40 minutes at about 3:45 pm by George Street Bridge so turned around and went back to the motorway. I was furious. If I was trying to get to the train station (a 15 minute journey usually) I would have missed my train. That would cost me money and could have caused huge problems with connections for deadlines, flights etc at huge expense. If this is ever going to happen again it must be publicised and there should be warning signs to give motorists the chance to choose another route.
I had no idea this was happening and got stuck for 40 minutes at about 3:45 pm by George Street Bridge so turned around and went back to the motorway. I was furious. If I was trying to get to the train station (a 15 minute journey usually) I would have missed my train. That would cost me money and could have caused huge problems with connections for deadlines, flights etc at huge expense. If this is ever going to happen again it must be publicised and there should be warning signs to give motorists the chance to choose another route. julie60h
  • Score: 69

10:42am Wed 4 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

So who had this bright idea then? "We know traffic is bad on Cardiff Road in the morning, lets make it worse to ask people about it"

Couldn't they have used a less disruptive method to gain the information, such as monitoring strips across the road, people at the side of the road with clickers to count the amount of various vehicle types, even people with stopwatches and radios to measure how long specific vehicles take to travel a set distance. Anything that didn't involve stopping people for a chat...
So who had this bright idea then? "We know traffic is bad on Cardiff Road in the morning, lets make it worse to ask people about it" Couldn't they have used a less disruptive method to gain the information, such as monitoring strips across the road, people at the side of the road with clickers to count the amount of various vehicle types, even people with stopwatches and radios to measure how long specific vehicles take to travel a set distance. Anything that didn't involve stopping people for a chat... -trigg-
  • Score: 48

10:50am Wed 4 Jun 14

Lliswerry Man says...

Apparently they did the same thing yesterday on the SDR, who are they, what permission did they get, and why was there not notice given.......

And we do not live in a "nanny state" ?

Seriously.... bring traffic chaos, risk emergency services being HELD up, all for some bureaucrat to have "figures"... again not a true representation of public opinion, just those they questioned, on these roads at these times...... would have been so much better for them to deal with the DVLA, to gather information about motorists and send out the questionaire to ALL registered vehicle owners within a 20/30 miles radius?
Apparently they did the same thing yesterday on the SDR, who are they, what permission did they get, and why was there not notice given....... And we do not live in a "nanny state" ? Seriously.... bring traffic chaos, risk emergency services being HELD up, all for some bureaucrat to have "figures"... again not a true representation of public opinion, just those they questioned, on these roads at these times...... would have been so much better for them to deal with the DVLA, to gather information about motorists and send out the questionaire to ALL registered vehicle owners within a 20/30 miles radius? Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 39

11:22am Wed 4 Jun 14

llanmartin says...

This is a WAG survey to improve traffic flows. What a set of plonkers if they think that by delaying people they will get a positive response. How about they increase frequency of public transport and reduce fares!
This is a WAG survey to improve traffic flows. What a set of plonkers if they think that by delaying people they will get a positive response. How about they increase frequency of public transport and reduce fares! llanmartin
  • Score: 27

11:33am Wed 4 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

It was the WAG. Supported by traffic police to stop the public from telling the canvassers where to get off. SDR was a twenty minute queue yesterday.
They won't publicise it because then we would all go another way and they wouldn't get any forms filled out.
Questions asked were specific about your journey yesterday so they can get an idea of who is using the road at what time and for what reason and going where. I can see the point of the information but i disagree with holding a major road up all day. Senseless congestion made everybody late for school, work and jobs booked.
It was the WAG. Supported by traffic police to stop the public from telling the canvassers where to get off. SDR was a twenty minute queue yesterday. They won't publicise it because then we would all go another way and they wouldn't get any forms filled out. Questions asked were specific about your journey yesterday so they can get an idea of who is using the road at what time and for what reason and going where. I can see the point of the information but i disagree with holding a major road up all day. Senseless congestion made everybody late for school, work and jobs booked. landyman3030
  • Score: 37

11:43am Wed 4 Jun 14

The Red Claw says...

People should know that by law, a driver has to follow the directions of a police officer. However having stopped, there is no other requirement, legal or otherwise, to assist the survey or answer any questions. You can therefore be on your way with minimum disruption if you so wish.
People should know that by law, a driver has to follow the directions of a police officer. However having stopped, there is no other requirement, legal or otherwise, to assist the survey or answer any questions. You can therefore be on your way with minimum disruption if you so wish. The Red Claw
  • Score: 23

12:51pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Brynglas Tunneller says...

I have had two of these forms. I had one yesterday on the SDR Bridge at Orb just after lunchtime coming back from Dunelm Mill where I bought some lovely new curtains and a cushion. I had another this morning on Newport Road, Maesglas, at 8 am (in the pouring rain) on the way in to work-a minute or two late! I'm now going for the hat-trick. It's just wonderful to be so popular!
I have had two of these forms. I had one yesterday on the SDR Bridge at Orb just after lunchtime coming back from Dunelm Mill where I bought some lovely new curtains and a cushion. I had another this morning on Newport Road, Maesglas, at 8 am (in the pouring rain) on the way in to work-a minute or two late! I'm now going for the hat-trick. It's just wonderful to be so popular! Brynglas Tunneller
  • Score: 22

4:46pm Wed 4 Jun 14

pjwivell says...

I was unfortunate to be caught on Cardiff Road and as I was in a hurry I just said to the guy MYOB (Mind Your Own Business) because you don't have to answer their questions if you don't want to, and I was on my way in no time. I recon it's a Police scam.
I was unfortunate to be caught on Cardiff Road and as I was in a hurry I just said to the guy MYOB (Mind Your Own Business) because you don't have to answer their questions if you don't want to, and I was on my way in no time. I recon it's a Police scam. pjwivell
  • Score: 6

5:06pm Wed 4 Jun 14

SUNSHINE ON A CLOUDY DAY says...

Was the survey about what causes traffic jams ??? The world has gone mad
Was the survey about what causes traffic jams ??? The world has gone mad SUNSHINE ON A CLOUDY DAY
  • Score: 9

5:12pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

Why wasn’t there some form of prior notification…… my daughter purely by chance left for work early….so wasn’t late….if she had she would have been docked pay….which as only working part time as she’s studying in uni and only gets minimum wages for the 4 hours she’s contracted for….this is typical of political mandarins who do our lords and masters bidding.

Just like the bins and the proposals on fitting water meters on every property, the WAG come up with a madcap idea to solve the problem, don’t listen to people who understand the issues that everyone is different…..before implementing their wonderful policy like bus lanes, which wasted millions of pounds of our money…….

Then as Newport council wanted to do 10 years+ ago…..spend even more tax payer’s money doing a survey to understand why we’re not doing as we’ve been told we should live…..

Didn’t you realise we should all be using public transport irrespective of how awkward it makes our lives…..as it doesn’t meet some European directive on this or that….

The questionnaire handed out is very badly designed and is unlikely to give them enough information to understand why people just can’t or don’t want to use buses to go to work/shopping.
Why wasn’t there some form of prior notification…… my daughter purely by chance left for work early….so wasn’t late….if she had she would have been docked pay….which as only working part time as she’s studying in uni and only gets minimum wages for the 4 hours she’s contracted for….this is typical of political mandarins who do our lords and masters bidding. Just like the bins and the proposals on fitting water meters on every property, the WAG come up with a madcap idea to solve the problem, don’t listen to people who understand the issues that everyone is different…..before implementing their wonderful policy like bus lanes, which wasted millions of pounds of our money……. Then as Newport council wanted to do 10 years+ ago…..spend even more tax payer’s money doing a survey to understand why we’re not doing as we’ve been told we should live….. Didn’t you realise we should all be using public transport irrespective of how awkward it makes our lives…..as it doesn’t meet some European directive on this or that…. The questionnaire handed out is very badly designed and is unlikely to give them enough information to understand why people just can’t or don’t want to use buses to go to work/shopping. Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 18

5:41pm Wed 4 Jun 14

displayed says...

Its just a survey, briefly disguised to catch the illegal road users, those who dont think they need tax insurance, licence etc..............
Its just a survey, briefly disguised to catch the illegal road users, those who dont think they need tax insurance, licence etc.............. displayed
  • Score: -5

6:13pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Newport87 says...

I brought this to the attention of Kevin Ward yesterday as I was bemused why it wasn't publicised. There are better ways to go about asking road users to complete a survey.

The disruption on the SDR yesterday wasn't ideal, and while being a few minutes late for work isn't the end of the world, to close a lane on the busiest road through Newport for over 10 hours is absurd.

It's also a waste of police resources. I would rather they were pulling cars over for inspection and breathalysing instead.
I brought this to the attention of Kevin Ward yesterday as I was bemused why it wasn't publicised. There are better ways to go about asking road users to complete a survey. The disruption on the SDR yesterday wasn't ideal, and while being a few minutes late for work isn't the end of the world, to close a lane on the busiest road through Newport for over 10 hours is absurd. It's also a waste of police resources. I would rather they were pulling cars over for inspection and breathalysing instead. Newport87
  • Score: 13

9:08am Thu 5 Jun 14

Simon_Watkins says...

I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff.

No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed.

I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around.

I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed.
I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff. No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed. I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around. I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed. Simon_Watkins
  • Score: 3

8:12am Fri 6 Jun 14

smiffy76 says...

Simon_Watkins wrote:
I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff.

No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed.

I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around.

I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed.
Print and show your boss this artical with something like "I wondered if you could help me in making a formal complaint".
A simple statement of how much you where missed would do.
[quote][p][bold]Simon_Watkins[/bold] wrote: I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff. No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed. I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around. I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed.[/p][/quote]Print and show your boss this artical with something like "I wondered if you could help me in making a formal complaint". A simple statement of how much you where missed would do. smiffy76
  • Score: 1

9:53am Fri 6 Jun 14

smiffy76 says...

Simon_Watkins wrote:
I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff.

No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed.

I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around.

I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed.
As a though there are a bunch of total idiot planning this. With a little more planning distribution could be almost wiped out.
Around Newport there are a number of layby s and old sections of road that could be commended to keep the main carriageway clear.
E.g. old Cardiff road (by ARC carwash) or Tredegar park car park.

I got caught up in one between the Dragonfly and J28. That could of been put onto the access road for the Dragonfly and cars directed in from the lights.

Snarling up traffic skews the result as it means people avoid the area. (Like the guy above)
[quote][p][bold]Simon_Watkins[/bold] wrote: I was suppose to have been in work early yesterday, and made a special effort because it was very important. We had switched over an important computer system late the night before. This affected all hospitals in Wales and I, and colleagues, needed to be in work before various hospital staff. No notification about this beforehand, and deliberately suppressed from any local traffic and travel news, I ran right I to it. After queuing to get to get to Gaer Road, and seeing traffic not even moving on Cardiff Road, I turned round desperate to find another route in to Cardiff. In the end, I had to travel via the lanes at Michaelstone because Forge Lane was similarly crammed. I had to explain to to my boss why I was late, this day of all days, knowing how important it was, and the effect it could have had to hospitals and patients. I tried to explain, but no travel news or notices to back up my story or corroborate the road situation. Thanks a bunch! It looks like I was some sort of irresponsible employee who didn't care and made no effort. I've just put myself in the frame, for when the next head count cull inevitably comes around. I wish people would understand the sort of long term damage they can cause everyone with their hair brained ideas. I didn't even go my normal route into work, and I can't be the only one, so their stupid survey is already flawed.[/p][/quote]As a though there are a bunch of total idiot planning this. With a little more planning distribution could be almost wiped out. Around Newport there are a number of layby s and old sections of road that could be commended to keep the main carriageway clear. E.g. old Cardiff road (by ARC carwash) or Tredegar park car park. I got caught up in one between the Dragonfly and J28. That could of been put onto the access road for the Dragonfly and cars directed in from the lights. Snarling up traffic skews the result as it means people avoid the area. (Like the guy above) smiffy76
  • Score: 0

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