Gwent AM says his £1.2k Cardiff hotel stays 'are within rules'

'WITHIN THE RULES': South Wales East AM Mohammad Asghar

'WITHIN THE RULES': South Wales East AM Mohammad Asghar

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A GWENT AM based in Newport has worked up a bill of more than £1,200 staying in Cardiff hotels over a two-year period.

The Argus has discovered, through the Assembly allowance database, that Tory Mohammad Asghar stayed in the city for 20 nights between May, 2012 and November, 2013.

Mr Asghar’s office says the stays were not booked by him but by the Assembly, were within the rules and were to allow him to perform his duties as an AM.

The stays cost £64 a night and £1,280 in total.

In comparison, a 16-minute train journey between Newport and Cardiff Central currently costs £5.40 while a day ticket on a bus from Cardiff Central to the Assembly is £3.60.

Mr Asghar stayed overnight in Cardiff on May 28, October 1, October 15, October 22, October 23, November 5, November 26 and December 3 in 2012 and January 7, January 14, January 21, February 25, March 4, March 20 in 2013. The allowance database shows Mr Asghar also stayed overnight on May 15, May 20, July 17, November 4, November 6 and November 18 in 2013.

Only one other Gwent AM – Islwyn’s Gwyn Price – appears to have claimed through the Cardiff overnight stay allowance during that time, and that was for two nights on January 22 and 23 costing £132.

A spokesman for Mr Asghar said: “The hotel bookings were made by Members Business Services to allow him to perform his duties and were within the rules of the National Assembly.”

Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am.

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11:59am Fri 13 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!"

This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.
Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!" This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we. KarloMarko
  • Score: 73

12:12pm Fri 13 Jun 14

altom23 says...

KarloMarko wrote:
Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!"

This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.
Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!" This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.[/p][/quote]Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm altom23
  • Score: 32

12:26pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Good Job No Kids says...

altom23 wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!"

This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.
Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm
Oh it's the Tories responsible for our shambolic health service and schools is it?
[quote][p][bold]altom23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!" This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.[/p][/quote]Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm[/p][/quote]Oh it's the Tories responsible for our shambolic health service and schools is it? Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 16

12:27pm Fri 13 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Well, as he's carpet bagged thro all parties!

Only BNP, UKIP and the Greens left for the "Political Bingo" set.

And the circus rolls on...and they wonder why the public hates their guts. Listening Rosemary?
Well, as he's carpet bagged thro all parties! Only BNP, UKIP and the Greens left for the "Political Bingo" set. And the circus rolls on...and they wonder why the public hates their guts. Listening Rosemary? KarloMarko
  • Score: 43

12:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

rogiemassive says...

The snout seems well and truly in the trough. My guess is he opts for a serloin
Instead of a lasagne from the menu too.
The snout seems well and truly in the trough. My guess is he opts for a serloin Instead of a lasagne from the menu too. rogiemassive
  • Score: 41

12:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

The Grey Rouleur says...

May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.
May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong. The Grey Rouleur
  • Score: 68

12:36pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Jimport says...

Taking the urine again.
Taking the urine again. Jimport
  • Score: 39

12:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

maggiesian says...

I am not a member of the Tory party - far from it - but this A.M. doesn't have his nose in the trough as much as some other Gwent A.M.s. I know it is an old story, but we shouldn't forget the A.M.s who cannot travel to Cardiff daily from Newbridge or Pontypool because it is too far! It is disgraceful that the rules allow members who live so close to Cardiff to have second homes in the capital. Plaid Cymru and Labour should be trying to ensure that the rules are tightened up.
I am not a member of the Tory party - far from it - but this A.M. doesn't have his nose in the trough as much as some other Gwent A.M.s. I know it is an old story, but we shouldn't forget the A.M.s who cannot travel to Cardiff daily from Newbridge or Pontypool because it is too far! It is disgraceful that the rules allow members who live so close to Cardiff to have second homes in the capital. Plaid Cymru and Labour should be trying to ensure that the rules are tightened up. maggiesian
  • Score: 42

12:58pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Julesblaina1 says...

Good Job No Kids wrote:
altom23 wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!"

This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.
Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm
Oh it's the Tories responsible for our shambolic health service and schools is it?
Well actually the Welsh Assembly are in charge of our NHS and schools, Conservative government just hand the money over. They are all in it for theirselves, I wonder which party Asghar will move to know only UKIP left
[quote][p][bold]Good Job No Kids[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]altom23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!" This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.[/p][/quote]Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm[/p][/quote]Oh it's the Tories responsible for our shambolic health service and schools is it?[/p][/quote]Well actually the Welsh Assembly are in charge of our NHS and schools, Conservative government just hand the money over. They are all in it for theirselves, I wonder which party Asghar will move to know only UKIP left Julesblaina1
  • Score: 23

1:08pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Severn40 says...

It might be within the rules but that doesn't stop an AM for exercising judgment on its ethics. In this case, the AM concerned should have said I will pay out of my own pocket for this particular convenience. It doesn't take much.
It might be within the rules but that doesn't stop an AM for exercising judgment on its ethics. In this case, the AM concerned should have said I will pay out of my own pocket for this particular convenience. It doesn't take much. Severn40
  • Score: 32

1:21pm Fri 13 Jun 14

robertce says...

I know lots of people who travel between Newport and Cardiff and vice versa for earlier starts than 9am. This just taking the mickey..shame on you!
I know lots of people who travel between Newport and Cardiff and vice versa for earlier starts than 9am. This just taking the mickey..shame on you! robertce
  • Score: 60

1:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

nodnyl says...

What a joker---
What a joker--- nodnyl
  • Score: 34

1:55pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Explainitplease says...

Its the rules which have to change.
But of course the people who benefit from the ridiculous rules are the rule changes...
Perhaps we should pitch a new reality show. Let some normal average people loose on the rules and see what happens...scrap the stupid welsh language scheme for a start and begin to see what's important - looking after people, not welsh road signs.
Its the rules which have to change. But of course the people who benefit from the ridiculous rules are the rule changes... Perhaps we should pitch a new reality show. Let some normal average people loose on the rules and see what happens...scrap the stupid welsh language scheme for a start and begin to see what's important - looking after people, not welsh road signs. Explainitplease
  • Score: 22

2:01pm Fri 13 Jun 14

westsi1983 says...

A lot depends on the time he was required to be in Cardiff until on the previous night. Inverting the situation, had he driven home late at night and then driven the next morning, and in being tired caused a serious or fatal collision, we would all be saying how attrocious it was that he was so irresponsible as to be driving tired and risking the lives of others.

So without all the facts it is a pretty dismal display to jump all over the guy. Thats said the rules for hotels and second homes need to be set out clearly and reasonable, and it needs to be shown that politicians are following them. The difficulty is that tiredness and exhaustion are individual factors, so rules governing accommodation in lieu of travelling due to tiredness is difficult to write, as what is fine for one person is not for another, and the governing legislation requires consideration of individual circumstances.

Of course many feel that people should do whatever their employer wants irrespective of the consequences... I vaguely recall an MP had an accident when driving home, tired, late at night from a debate... I also recall the response being that he was too old for the job, rather than suggesting he was irresponsible by driving when tired.
A lot depends on the time he was required to be in Cardiff until on the previous night. Inverting the situation, had he driven home late at night and then driven the next morning, and in being tired caused a serious or fatal collision, we would all be saying how attrocious it was that he was so irresponsible as to be driving tired and risking the lives of others. So without all the facts it is a pretty dismal display to jump all over the guy. Thats said the rules for hotels and second homes need to be set out clearly and reasonable, and it needs to be shown that politicians are following them. The difficulty is that tiredness and exhaustion are individual factors, so rules governing accommodation in lieu of travelling due to tiredness is difficult to write, as what is fine for one person is not for another, and the governing legislation requires consideration of individual circumstances. Of course many feel that people should do whatever their employer wants irrespective of the consequences... I vaguely recall an MP had an accident when driving home, tired, late at night from a debate... I also recall the response being that he was too old for the job, rather than suggesting he was irresponsible by driving when tired. westsi1983
  • Score: -36

2:06pm Fri 13 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

This really does enrage me and I suspect a great many others. From about 1986 to 1997 I commuted everyday from Cardiff to Swindon and back. To start at 8.30am. Sometimes I worked on until late evening but still had to turn around and do it all again next day. If I had asked my employer for "hotel expenses to be on time" they would have shown me the disposal unit. Or arranged a medical.

Who the hell do these people think they are? How totally out of touch and divorced from everday work and reality? What next for our AMs and MPs...a gold carriage and a personal butler? Yes I know, don't give em even more ideas.
This really does enrage me and I suspect a great many others. From about 1986 to 1997 I commuted everyday from Cardiff to Swindon and back. To start at 8.30am. Sometimes I worked on until late evening but still had to turn around and do it all again next day. If I had asked my employer for "hotel expenses to be on time" they would have shown me the disposal unit. Or arranged a medical. Who the hell do these people think they are? How totally out of touch and divorced from everday work and reality? What next for our AMs and MPs...a gold carriage and a personal butler? Yes I know, don't give em even more ideas. KarloMarko
  • Score: 53

2:25pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Gweneira says...

Mr Asghar states his hotel accommodation was booked by Members Business Services, so therefore, within Assembly rules. But come on, you live in Newport, a few miles from Cardiff. Your constituents can commute daily to Cardiff and start work at 9am so why cant you? Also, I agree with the comments from maggiesian, we know who the AMs are from Islwyn and Torfaen who claim for accommodation in Cardiff Bay and it stinks. WG should and must change the rules - no excuses!
Mr Asghar states his hotel accommodation was booked by Members Business Services, so therefore, within Assembly rules. But come on, you live in Newport, a few miles from Cardiff. Your constituents can commute daily to Cardiff and start work at 9am so why cant you? Also, I agree with the comments from maggiesian, we know who the AMs are from Islwyn and Torfaen who claim for accommodation in Cardiff Bay and it stinks. WG should and must change the rules - no excuses! Gweneira
  • Score: 53

2:31pm Fri 13 Jun 14

portman says...

This guy is a disgrace and i will be mailing and telling him so .never mind it's within the jobs for boys rules which too are a disgrace ! My son goes to work 5 30 5 days a week drives around the country for 12 hrs all for 7 pound an hour minus his tax and NI leaves him with 64 pound a day is this the fair and just society we all seek or am i just dreaming .
This guy is a disgrace and i will be mailing and telling him so .never mind it's within the jobs for boys rules which too are a disgrace ! My son goes to work 5 30 5 days a week drives around the country for 12 hrs all for 7 pound an hour minus his tax and NI leaves him with 64 pound a day is this the fair and just society we all seek or am i just dreaming . portman
  • Score: 44

2:37pm Fri 13 Jun 14

gwenny says...

and he will get travel expenses,taxi to the station train fare to Cardiff add that to the £64 plus his food at least a £100
and he will get travel expenses,taxi to the station train fare to Cardiff add that to the £64 plus his food at least a £100 gwenny
  • Score: 41

3:04pm Fri 13 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

nothing more than a dirty crook
nothing more than a dirty crook jimmysmith
  • Score: 40

3:20pm Fri 13 Jun 14

GogExile says...

So smug that they can't differentiate between legality and morality.
So smug that they can't differentiate between legality and morality. GogExile
  • Score: 41

3:55pm Fri 13 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

In fairness to this party hopping gent his expenses appetite pale into
significance when compared to other trough guzzlers.The Torfaen AM Ms Neagle and her AM husband Hugh Lewis now minister for our crumbling education both from Merthyr found it to difficult to use probably the best highway connection in Wales to Cardiff both used their expenses to buy
the same house in Penarth ,a classic example for young people on how to climb the housing ladder using public money, money that need not be used given that Merthyr to Cardiff Bay thirty minutes without breaking speed limits .
In fairness to this party hopping gent his expenses appetite pale into significance when compared to other trough guzzlers.The Torfaen AM Ms Neagle and her AM husband Hugh Lewis now minister for our crumbling education both from Merthyr found it to difficult to use probably the best highway connection in Wales to Cardiff both used their expenses to buy the same house in Penarth ,a classic example for young people on how to climb the housing ladder using public money, money that need not be used given that Merthyr to Cardiff Bay thirty minutes without breaking speed limits . coalpicker
  • Score: 32

3:59pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

This is just in my view stealing from the taxpayers. There may be the odd rare occasion a hotel stay is justified but no way is that number of stays. He is taking the Welsh electorate for mugs
This is just in my view stealing from the taxpayers. There may be the odd rare occasion a hotel stay is justified but no way is that number of stays. He is taking the Welsh electorate for mugs Bobevans
  • Score: 35

4:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

The Grey Rouleur wrote:
May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.
Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. "

Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier

Time to think about booting this character out as the next election
[quote][p][bold]The Grey Rouleur[/bold] wrote: May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.[/p][/quote]Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. " Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier Time to think about booting this character out as the next election Bobevans
  • Score: 39

4:16pm Fri 13 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

"Baron" (sic) Mike German ex Lib Dem AM and leader, now in the Lords...

Argus 2009...."LIBERAL Democrat AM for South Wales East, Mike German, lives near Llanfrechfa, around 18 miles from Cardiff Bay.He has had a second home in Cardiff for the last six years and last year claimed £10,200 for this one bedroom house.".

German has built up a very tidy multi portfolio at the public's (our) expense over the years. Then this year he defended the Coalition Bedroom Tax as "the public sector cannot afford these subsidies to tenancies!"

It's the breathtaking cheek, vile self worth and contempt of these reptiles that still astounds. Even at my age.
"Baron" (sic) Mike German ex Lib Dem AM and leader, now in the Lords... Argus 2009...."LIBERAL Democrat AM for South Wales East, Mike German, lives near Llanfrechfa, around 18 miles from Cardiff Bay.He has had a second home in Cardiff for the last six years and last year claimed £10,200 for this one bedroom house.". German has built up a very tidy multi portfolio at the public's (our) expense over the years. Then this year he defended the Coalition Bedroom Tax as "the public sector cannot afford these subsidies to tenancies!" It's the breathtaking cheek, vile self worth and contempt of these reptiles that still astounds. Even at my age. KarloMarko
  • Score: 34

4:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Arco2012 says...

Nothing surprises me with this bloke, he employs his wife and daughter as job sharing office managers on over £32k between them but the daughter is always in London pursuing her 'bollywood' career so what does she do for her 20 odd hours? probably pocket money, unbelievable!
Nothing surprises me with this bloke, he employs his wife and daughter as job sharing office managers on over £32k between them but the daughter is always in London pursuing her 'bollywood' career so what does she do for her 20 odd hours? probably pocket money, unbelievable! Arco2012
  • Score: 38

4:44pm Fri 13 Jun 14

james peterson says...

It is the system at fault. i would not expect an AM from north wales to be out of pocket for staying over night in cardiff but, for AM within 50 mile of cardiff should get nothing.
It is the system at fault. i would not expect an AM from north wales to be out of pocket for staying over night in cardiff but, for AM within 50 mile of cardiff should get nothing. james peterson
  • Score: 26

5:08pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Stevie1965 says...

Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term!
Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term! Stevie1965
  • Score: 25

5:19pm Fri 13 Jun 14

bobbajob says...

Absolutely ridiculous
Absolutely ridiculous bobbajob
  • Score: 17

5:39pm Fri 13 Jun 14

indy2012 says...

One thousand pounds for the rooms at the hotel, two hundred pounds for all the pies he has eaten.
One thousand pounds for the rooms at the hotel, two hundred pounds for all the pies he has eaten. indy2012
  • Score: 17

5:39pm Fri 13 Jun 14

lcu06rjt says...

I would quite happily car-pool with him in the mornings, it would save us all a lot of money!

As long as there is no politics talk. If there is he would be out.

I could probably get him in for 8.30, enough spare time for a coffee and a pastry too.

Win win in my opinion.
I would quite happily car-pool with him in the mornings, it would save us all a lot of money! As long as there is no politics talk. If there is he would be out. I could probably get him in for 8.30, enough spare time for a coffee and a pastry too. Win win in my opinion. lcu06rjt
  • Score: 21

6:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Blodwen Puw says...

There are many public service workers like police officers, nurses, paramedics, firemen etc who live in Newport and work in Cardiff who drive home after a long day's work. Should we pay for them to stay in a hotel too?
There are many public service workers like police officers, nurses, paramedics, firemen etc who live in Newport and work in Cardiff who drive home after a long day's work. Should we pay for them to stay in a hotel too? Blodwen Puw
  • Score: 25

6:28pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Aquarius says...

It's the rules that need changing. While they are as they are, there won't be any shortage of politicians who will seek to stretch them as far as they can go and then proclaim - as Asghar has - that it's "within the rules".

Of course it is. Because they'll always ensure that there's room for manouvre in these 'rules'. I would imagine he isn't the only one at it - I'm sure it's a wheeze that's employed by a few of themm regardless of their politics.

Every day we see more and more evidence that there's no difference between any of them - they're out for themselves, not for the people who voted them in.

As for Asghar, the remedy is simple. Kick him out at the earliest electoral opportunity. You can bet that whoever follows him will quickly carry on where he left off - filling their boots at our expense.
It's the rules that need changing. While they are as they are, there won't be any shortage of politicians who will seek to stretch them as far as they can go and then proclaim - as Asghar has - that it's "within the rules". Of course it is. Because they'll always ensure that there's room for manouvre in these 'rules'. I would imagine he isn't the only one at it - I'm sure it's a wheeze that's employed by a few of themm regardless of their politics. Every day we see more and more evidence that there's no difference between any of them - they're out for themselves, not for the people who voted them in. As for Asghar, the remedy is simple. Kick him out at the earliest electoral opportunity. You can bet that whoever follows him will quickly carry on where he left off - filling their boots at our expense. Aquarius
  • Score: 16

6:45pm Fri 13 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.
The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage. KarloMarko
  • Score: 17

6:54pm Fri 13 Jun 14

gingertom says...

At the end of the day lets see all the others aswell not just him. Jocelyn davies got a flat in cardiff and only lives in newbridge.
At the end of the day lets see all the others aswell not just him. Jocelyn davies got a flat in cardiff and only lives in newbridge. gingertom
  • Score: 18

7:09pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Aquarius says...

KarloMarko wrote:
The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.
Ah - thanks. Didn't realise that.

And they wonder why less and less people are voting - and why we despise politicians.

Perhaps Asghar will do the decent thing and resign?! Fat chance though.

These people hang on like dirty glue.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.[/p][/quote]Ah - thanks. Didn't realise that. And they wonder why less and less people are voting - and why we despise politicians. Perhaps Asghar will do the decent thing and resign?! Fat chance though. These people hang on like dirty glue. Aquarius
  • Score: 18

10:22pm Fri 13 Jun 14

plumbob1 says...

I work all over the country and anything less than 1 hours travelling away I travel from home and return daily. Arriving at 07.00 and leaving at 18.00 - 19.00.
This is because I have to pay my own expenses and therefore it is cheaper to travel rather than stay in an hotel (Budget hotel).
Incidentally I do hard manual work and not sit on my backside in meetings.

As regards Mr Asghar, if he is too tired to drive take the bus or train and a taxi from the station.
I work all over the country and anything less than 1 hours travelling away I travel from home and return daily. Arriving at 07.00 and leaving at 18.00 - 19.00. This is because I have to pay my own expenses and therefore it is cheaper to travel rather than stay in an hotel (Budget hotel). Incidentally I do hard manual work and not sit on my backside in meetings. As regards Mr Asghar, if he is too tired to drive take the bus or train and a taxi from the station. plumbob1
  • Score: 11

11:07pm Fri 13 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have. landyman3030
  • Score: 11

11:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Independentvoter says...

Stevie1965 wrote:
Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term!
Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse !
[quote][p][bold]Stevie1965[/bold] wrote: Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term![/p][/quote]Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse ! Independentvoter
  • Score: 0

11:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Aquarius says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
And you don't think that UKIP will turn out to be exactly the same?

I can pretty much guarantee they will....
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]And you don't think that UKIP will turn out to be exactly the same? I can pretty much guarantee they will.... Aquarius
  • Score: 4

11:27pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Independentvoter says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ! Independentvoter
  • Score: 7

7:21am Sat 14 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters.
What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative.
Publish them please.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters. What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative. Publish them please. landyman3030
  • Score: 7

8:12am Sat 14 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

Aquarius wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
And you don't think that UKIP will turn out to be exactly the same?

I can pretty much guarantee they will....
The proof of the pudding is in the eating .Our problem is the people who are to lazy to vote and leave it to the guy next door. there is no excuse to cry the dyke is leaking if we are not prepared to put our finger in the hole.
[quote][p][bold]Aquarius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]And you don't think that UKIP will turn out to be exactly the same? I can pretty much guarantee they will....[/p][/quote]The proof of the pudding is in the eating .Our problem is the people who are to lazy to vote and leave it to the guy next door. there is no excuse to cry the dyke is leaking if we are not prepared to put our finger in the hole. coalpicker
  • Score: 5

10:41am Sat 14 Jun 14

welshmen says...

Bobevans wrote:
The Grey Rouleur wrote:
May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.
Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. "

Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier

Time to think about booting this character out as the next election
He will never be booted out, he has is own voter fan base, they attend Mosques the same has the AM....
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Grey Rouleur[/bold] wrote: May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.[/p][/quote]Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. " Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier Time to think about booting this character out as the next election[/p][/quote]He will never be booted out, he has is own voter fan base, they attend Mosques the same has the AM.... welshmen
  • Score: 9

11:44am Sat 14 Jun 14

Blodwen Puw says...

Blodwen Puw wrote:
There are many public service workers like police officers, nurses, paramedics, firemen etc who live in Newport and work in Cardiff who drive home after a long day's work. Should we pay for them to stay in a hotel too?
ps I've had some late nights out in Cardiff bay and had a taxi back for under £30, that would have saved a bit!
[quote][p][bold]Blodwen Puw[/bold] wrote: There are many public service workers like police officers, nurses, paramedics, firemen etc who live in Newport and work in Cardiff who drive home after a long day's work. Should we pay for them to stay in a hotel too?[/p][/quote]ps I've had some late nights out in Cardiff bay and had a taxi back for under £30, that would have saved a bit! Blodwen Puw
  • Score: 6

12:03pm Sat 14 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
SHUT THIS WELSH ASSEMBLY CRAP DOWN
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]SHUT THIS WELSH ASSEMBLY CRAP DOWN scraptheWAG
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Sat 14 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
are you foolish enough to believe all this crap being peddled through the media about Mr Farage .more fool you if you do .the smear campaign being waged now against ukip by the running scared government etc wont deter the voter .you rest assured on that .thieving parasites like ashgar will be voted out next time round now thanks to the argus highlighting this
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]are you foolish enough to believe all this crap being peddled through the media about Mr Farage .more fool you if you do .the smear campaign being waged now against ukip by the running scared government etc wont deter the voter .you rest assured on that .thieving parasites like ashgar will be voted out next time round now thanks to the argus highlighting this jimmysmith
  • Score: 9

12:56pm Sat 14 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

welshmen wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
The Grey Rouleur wrote:
May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.
Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. "

Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier

Time to think about booting this character out as the next election
He will never be booted out, he has is own voter fan base, they attend Mosques the same has the AM....
best two posts to date .and the truth
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Grey Rouleur[/bold] wrote: May be within the rules, but is ethically cheating and wrong.[/p][/quote]Quote "Many of the dates coincide with his attendance at public accounts committee meetings, which start at 9am. " Is this AM to lazy to get out of bed before 7am. Lots of people commute to Cardiff and many start at 8am or earlier Time to think about booting this character out as the next election[/p][/quote]He will never be booted out, he has is own voter fan base, they attend Mosques the same has the AM....[/p][/quote]best two posts to date .and the truth jimmysmith
  • Score: 3

1:27pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Raymond Luxury-Yacht says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters.
What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative.
Publish them please.
"Ukip leader admits claiming £205,000 from the taxpayer for office space provided free of charge by party supporter" One of the worst offenders of the lot is Mr Nigel Farage..........bang goes your theory!
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters. What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative. Publish them please.[/p][/quote]"Ukip leader admits claiming £205,000 from the taxpayer for office space provided free of charge by party supporter" One of the worst offenders of the lot is Mr Nigel Farage..........bang goes your theory! Raymond Luxury-Yacht
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Sat 14 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity. KarloMarko
  • Score: 6

2:28pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Raymond Luxury-Yacht says...

KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend. Raymond Luxury-Yacht
  • Score: 7

2:49pm Sat 14 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
yes post them on here but also post honestly where you obtained them from and how you validated as the truth that he was dishonest
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]yes post them on here but also post honestly where you obtained them from and how you validated as the truth that he was dishonest jimmysmith
  • Score: 3

4:44pm Sat 14 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
WELL that may be true, however while it may be true of the current incumbents we do need to try a new bunch and give them the benefit of the doubt until proved other wise. It is a fact the dwellers in the house of thieves
and liars who have and are treating us like fools now are beginning to realize
there is the possibility that we want and will change the status quo .
[quote][p][bold]Raymond Luxury-Yacht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend.[/p][/quote]WELL that may be true, however while it may be true of the current incumbents we do need to try a new bunch and give them the benefit of the doubt until proved other wise. It is a fact the dwellers in the house of thieves and liars who have and are treating us like fools now are beginning to realize there is the possibility that we want and will change the status quo . coalpicker
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Sat 14 Jun 14

bugsy93 says...

This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few.
And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.
This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few. And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are. bugsy93
  • Score: 7

10:23am Sun 15 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

bugsy93 wrote:
This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few.
And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.
7 billion wasted on this crap
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few. And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.[/p][/quote]7 billion wasted on this crap scraptheWAG
  • Score: 2

10:23am Sun 15 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

bugsy93 wrote:
This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few.
And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.
7 billion wasted on this crap
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few. And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.[/p][/quote]7 billion wasted on this crap scraptheWAG
  • Score: 1

10:23am Sun 15 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

bugsy93 wrote:
This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few.
And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.
7 billion wasted on this crap
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few. And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.[/p][/quote]7 billion wasted on this crap scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

12:30pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Independentvoter says...

Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
Totally agree - WELL SAID !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Raymond Luxury-Yacht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - WELL SAID !!!!! Independentvoter
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Sun 15 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Someone said to me that voting for UKIP to "clean up the system" is a bit like being worried about your daughter walking home alone at night and then "ringing up Fred and Rosemary West to look out for her..."
Someone said to me that voting for UKIP to "clean up the system" is a bit like being worried about your daughter walking home alone at night and then "ringing up Fred and Rosemary West to look out for her..." KarloMarko
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Sun 15 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Stevie1965 wrote:
Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term!
Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse !
well dont keep posting hearsay on here . post the figures and where from .with the the proof . or are you just spouting crap from the mail or the sun ? im all ears cmon lets see it in black and white . ps what a strange description .euro freak .define .euro freak .id understand if you was describing blair as a war criminal or cameron as a compulsive liar .or clegg as an incompetent fool .but farage as a euro freak .i await your reply
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie1965[/bold] wrote: Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term![/p][/quote]Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse ![/p][/quote]well dont keep posting hearsay on here . post the figures and where from .with the the proof . or are you just spouting crap from the mail or the sun ? im all ears cmon lets see it in black and white . ps what a strange description .euro freak .define .euro freak .id understand if you was describing blair as a war criminal or cameron as a compulsive liar .or clegg as an incompetent fool .but farage as a euro freak .i await your reply jimmysmith
  • Score: -3

3:42pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Magor says...

This is peanuts compared to what the WAG costs the taxpayer ,all of it a waste.Have things improved in Wales over the last 15 years? I think not.
This is peanuts compared to what the WAG costs the taxpayer ,all of it a waste.Have things improved in Wales over the last 15 years? I think not. Magor
  • Score: 3

3:59pm Sun 15 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

Magor wrote:
This is peanuts compared to what the WAG costs the taxpayer ,all of it a waste.Have things improved in Wales over the last 15 years? I think not.
things have deteriorated right across wales since the welsh assembley was formed .all in the guise of cost cutting .yet their wages and expenses have risen and risen . thieving lying incompetents every one of them
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: This is peanuts compared to what the WAG costs the taxpayer ,all of it a waste.Have things improved in Wales over the last 15 years? I think not.[/p][/quote]things have deteriorated right across wales since the welsh assembley was formed .all in the guise of cost cutting .yet their wages and expenses have risen and risen . thieving lying incompetents every one of them jimmysmith
  • Score: 3

9:42pm Sun 15 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

jimmysmith wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Stevie1965 wrote:
Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term!
Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse !
well dont keep posting hearsay on here . post the figures and where from .with the the proof . or are you just spouting crap from the mail or the sun ? im all ears cmon lets see it in black and white . ps what a strange description .euro freak .define .euro freak .id understand if you was describing blair as a war criminal or cameron as a compulsive liar .or clegg as an incompetent fool .but farage as a euro freak .i await your reply
WE STILL WAITING PAL
[quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevie1965[/bold] wrote: Until the rules are changed greedy self-serving parasites like this will continue to ride the gravy train on the pretext that "they are within the rules" Let's hope he does t get to serve more than one term![/p][/quote]Yep just like euro freak farrage how much has he raked in ??? and for how many years - the answer is just the same if not worse ![/p][/quote]well dont keep posting hearsay on here . post the figures and where from .with the the proof . or are you just spouting crap from the mail or the sun ? im all ears cmon lets see it in black and white . ps what a strange description .euro freak .define .euro freak .id understand if you was describing blair as a war criminal or cameron as a compulsive liar .or clegg as an incompetent fool .but farage as a euro freak .i await your reply[/p][/quote]WE STILL WAITING PAL jimmysmith
  • Score: -1

9:56pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

jimmysmith wrote:
nothing more than a dirty crook
It is probably within the rules so he is not a crook but morally it is wrong and the rules should be changed
[quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: nothing more than a dirty crook[/p][/quote]It is probably within the rules so he is not a crook but morally it is wrong and the rules should be changed Bobevans
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
SHUT THIS WELSH ASSEMBLY CRAP DOWN
He does not get expences but an allowance. You do understand the difference don't you?

Please show us these hotel bills he has submitted as expenses?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]SHUT THIS WELSH ASSEMBLY CRAP DOWN[/p][/quote]He does not get expences but an allowance. You do understand the difference don't you? Please show us these hotel bills he has submitted as expenses? Bobevans
  • Score: -2

1:14am Mon 16 Jun 14

hamiltonman85 says...

From my perspective this AM, as shocking as taking public money for granted is, is only one of millions in this country who have this bizarre sense of entitlement. Taking money they simply have not earnt and believing they deserve to. From the poorest to the very richest, if you can claim it, then claim it. Seems to be part of british culture nowadays.
From my perspective this AM, as shocking as taking public money for granted is, is only one of millions in this country who have this bizarre sense of entitlement. Taking money they simply have not earnt and believing they deserve to. From the poorest to the very richest, if you can claim it, then claim it. Seems to be part of british culture nowadays. hamiltonman85
  • Score: 3

8:41am Mon 16 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

Bobevans wrote:
jimmysmith wrote:
nothing more than a dirty crook
It is probably within the rules so he is not a crook but morally it is wrong and the rules should be changed
Crook ie, in the sense ,Crooked .and bob no matter how its dressed up hes crooked ,hes not straight , so as i said hes a crook
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: nothing more than a dirty crook[/p][/quote]It is probably within the rules so he is not a crook but morally it is wrong and the rules should be changed[/p][/quote]Crook ie, in the sense ,Crooked .and bob no matter how its dressed up hes crooked ,hes not straight , so as i said hes a crook jimmysmith
  • Score: 0

10:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

rich32123 says...

altom23 wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!"

This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.
Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm
Can you name some Tory MPs or politicians that have ended up in jail for expenses in recent times? No. But I can name many Labour MPs who have been jailed for fraud in recent times. The whole Labour party is a fraud, then Labour politicians go around saying their on your side, meanwhile they increase your council tax by over 4%! Its not the Tories presiding over shambolic Welsh Assembly and Welsh councils.
[quote][p][bold]altom23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Comrade Asghar...what a gift to Welsh politics! His family on the pay roll and he's on the room service roll! Cos, "Newport is like, miles from Cardiff!" This guy just keeps on giving...and so do we.[/p][/quote]Well well did we expect any better??? Let me think what party is he now a member of? Mmmm[/p][/quote]Can you name some Tory MPs or politicians that have ended up in jail for expenses in recent times? No. But I can name many Labour MPs who have been jailed for fraud in recent times. The whole Labour party is a fraud, then Labour politicians go around saying their on your side, meanwhile they increase your council tax by over 4%! Its not the Tories presiding over shambolic Welsh Assembly and Welsh councils. rich32123
  • Score: 6

10:35am Mon 16 Jun 14

rich32123 says...

KarloMarko wrote:
The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.
If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.[/p][/quote]If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history. rich32123
  • Score: 5

2:08pm Mon 16 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
Are we talking about the labour party I could swear we are. Let me quote Jim Griffiths where are all the cloth cap MP's .
[quote][p][bold]Raymond Luxury-Yacht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend.[/p][/quote]Are we talking about the labour party I could swear we are. Let me quote Jim Griffiths where are all the cloth cap MP's . coalpicker
  • Score: 0

3:16pm Mon 16 Jun 14

GogExile says...

rich32123 wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.
If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history.
So, democracy is bad for democracy now?
[quote][p][bold]rich32123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.[/p][/quote]If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history.[/p][/quote]So, democracy is bad for democracy now? GogExile
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Mon 16 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

GogExile wrote:
rich32123 wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.
If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history.
So, democracy is bad for democracy now?
democracy on suits those that oppose it
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rich32123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: The problem with kicking him out is that he's a "list AM". He is one of the twenty additional AMs hand picked from party lists so his "election" is in the gift of the Tory Party. So if they do nothing and endorse this moral corruption, vote them down. The same with any other party. The list system STINKS, it is pure patronage.[/p][/quote]If it wasn't for the list system the other parties in Wales wouldn't get a look in. We'd be a 1 party state and that is bad for democracy and bad for government especially as the Labour govt people in Wales stupidly vote for is among the most inept governments in British history.[/p][/quote]So, democracy is bad for democracy now?[/p][/quote]democracy on suits those that oppose it jimmysmith
  • Score: -2

9:05am Wed 18 Jun 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Bobevans wrote:
This is just in my view stealing from the taxpayers. There may be the odd rare occasion a hotel stay is justified but no way is that number of stays. He is taking the Welsh electorate for mugs
It is not just him, they are all taking us for mugs.
With every unnecessary tier of government comes corruption and a lack of basic morality.
The WAG are a perfect example of this and the members are so thick skinned that they don't give a toss what you or I think.
They will milk it as much as they can and then retire on a big fat pension at our expense.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: This is just in my view stealing from the taxpayers. There may be the odd rare occasion a hotel stay is justified but no way is that number of stays. He is taking the Welsh electorate for mugs[/p][/quote]It is not just him, they are all taking us for mugs. With every unnecessary tier of government comes corruption and a lack of basic morality. The WAG are a perfect example of this and the members are so thick skinned that they don't give a toss what you or I think. They will milk it as much as they can and then retire on a big fat pension at our expense. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

11:56am Wed 18 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
As a Tu and labour activist I think I can identify a fellow believer however
let there be no illusion we have been betrayed . the new mantra of the party
is the working class can kiss my A$& we have the foreman's job at last .Why do I say that ? Tony Blair, Iraq Afghanistan ect ect uncontrolled immigration
and all its ramifications which is not impacting on the Kinnocks and the rest of the Ivory tower dwellers but on working class Brits , We are not being represented our loyalty is being thrown back in our faces we need to reassert
our control on the peoples party sooner rather than later .
[quote][p][bold]Raymond Luxury-Yacht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend.[/p][/quote]As a Tu and labour activist I think I can identify a fellow believer however let there be no illusion we have been betrayed . the new mantra of the party is the working class can kiss my A$& we have the foreman's job at last .Why do I say that ? Tony Blair, Iraq Afghanistan ect ect uncontrolled immigration and all its ramifications which is not impacting on the Kinnocks and the rest of the Ivory tower dwellers but on working class Brits , We are not being represented our loyalty is being thrown back in our faces we need to reassert our control on the peoples party sooner rather than later . coalpicker
  • Score: 1

7:31am Thu 19 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
bugsy93 wrote:
This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few.
And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.
7 billion wasted on this crap
Source? Or are you just inventing stats to suit your narrative, as you customarily do?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: This is why many people voted against a welsh assembly.... Another layer of incompetence, corruption and another political gravy train for the chosen few. And all at great expense to the taxpayer. Whatever their colours are.[/p][/quote]7 billion wasted on this crap[/p][/quote]Source? Or are you just inventing stats to suit your narrative, as you customarily do? The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.
Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed !
Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters.
What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative.
Publish them please.
That poster is spouting garbage. They do not get expenses but an allowance.


MEPs' allowances


Like Members of national parliaments, Members of the European Parliament receive a number of allowances that are intended to cover the expenditure they incur in the performance of their parliamentary duties.


General expenditure allowance


This allowance is intended to cover expenditure in the Member State of election, such as Members’ office management costs, telephone and postal charges, and the purchase, operation and maintenance of computer and telematics equipment. The allowance is halved in the case of Members who, without due justification, do not attend half the number of plenary sittings in one parliamentary year (September to August).

The amount of this allowance in 2014 is EUR 4 299 per month.

http://www.europarl.
europa.eu/aboutparli
ament/en/0081ddfaa4/
MEPs.html
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Vote him out. Vote the others out too. Voters must make a noise and make a stand or it is just going to keep getting more insane. This is precisely why UKIP is where they are. The greedy pigs who make the rules are sucking us dry. The people who vote to re elect these parasites deserve the society that we have.[/p][/quote]Do you want me to print the figures for ukips greedy mr freaky farrages hotels bills etc ? the results will shock you !!!!! Greed greed greed ![/p][/quote]Please do. It's only with transparency with these types of figures and publishing them will we get informed about these drains on our system. As Jessica Morden, who has been found to be one of the highest expenses claimants, whist not being illegal, does not sit well with many voters. What I said is this is why UKIP are where they are. I did'nt say they were any different. People are just **** off with the leeches that we know only to well and are desperate to look for other options. Farage has offered that alternative. Publish them please.[/p][/quote]That poster is spouting garbage. They do not get expenses but an allowance. MEPs' allowances Like Members of national parliaments, Members of the European Parliament receive a number of allowances that are intended to cover the expenditure they incur in the performance of their parliamentary duties. General expenditure allowance This allowance is intended to cover expenditure in the Member State of election, such as Members’ office management costs, telephone and postal charges, and the purchase, operation and maintenance of computer and telematics equipment. The allowance is halved in the case of Members who, without due justification, do not attend half the number of plenary sittings in one parliamentary year (September to August). The amount of this allowance in 2014 is EUR 4 299 per month. http://www.europarl. europa.eu/aboutparli ament/en/0081ddfaa4/ MEPs.html Bobevans
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Thu 19 Jun 14

JJ1980 says...

I think the assembly is a waste of money, but seriously £1250 over TWO YEARS? I think this is a pointless story...the WAG probably spends more on buffet lunches in one day. I know Torfaen Council waste more than that organising face painting days and Easter egg hunts for the staff "team building" exercises. Lets focus on overspending and inefficiency and we'd save a LOT more than £1250 over two years!!

The councils and assembly should be run like a private business and we'd soon see the funds last longer. It's so wasteful because nobody cares, us mugs keep paying extortionate taxes and they keep wasting them. Why would they change?
I think the assembly is a waste of money, but seriously £1250 over TWO YEARS? I think this is a pointless story...the WAG probably spends more on buffet lunches in one day. I know Torfaen Council waste more than that organising face painting days and Easter egg hunts for the staff "team building" exercises. Lets focus on overspending and inefficiency and we'd save a LOT more than £1250 over two years!! The councils and assembly should be run like a private business and we'd soon see the funds last longer. It's so wasteful because nobody cares, us mugs keep paying extortionate taxes and they keep wasting them. Why would they change? JJ1980
  • Score: 1

10:57pm Thu 19 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

JJ1980 wrote:
I think the assembly is a waste of money, but seriously £1250 over TWO YEARS? I think this is a pointless story...the WAG probably spends more on buffet lunches in one day. I know Torfaen Council waste more than that organising face painting days and Easter egg hunts for the staff "team building" exercises. Lets focus on overspending and inefficiency and we'd save a LOT more than £1250 over two years!!

The councils and assembly should be run like a private business and we'd soon see the funds last longer. It's so wasteful because nobody cares, us mugs keep paying extortionate taxes and they keep wasting them. Why would they change?
MY point exactly . Who is running most of them in Wales ,UKIP, TORY, LIB/DEM, PLAID, ??
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I think the assembly is a waste of money, but seriously £1250 over TWO YEARS? I think this is a pointless story...the WAG probably spends more on buffet lunches in one day. I know Torfaen Council waste more than that organising face painting days and Easter egg hunts for the staff "team building" exercises. Lets focus on overspending and inefficiency and we'd save a LOT more than £1250 over two years!! The councils and assembly should be run like a private business and we'd soon see the funds last longer. It's so wasteful because nobody cares, us mugs keep paying extortionate taxes and they keep wasting them. Why would they change?[/p][/quote]MY point exactly . Who is running most of them in Wales ,UKIP, TORY, LIB/DEM, PLAID, ?? coalpicker
  • Score: 0

9:53am Fri 20 Jun 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

coalpicker wrote:
Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife.

When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.
Bang on. Well said my friend.
As a Tu and labour activist I think I can identify a fellow believer however
let there be no illusion we have been betrayed . the new mantra of the party
is the working class can kiss my A$& we have the foreman's job at last .Why do I say that ? Tony Blair, Iraq Afghanistan ect ect uncontrolled immigration
and all its ramifications which is not impacting on the Kinnocks and the rest of the Ivory tower dwellers but on working class Brits , We are not being represented our loyalty is being thrown back in our faces we need to reassert
our control on the peoples party sooner rather than later .
I never thought that I would agree wholeheartedly with a Labour supporter.
However, I am now about to say that in this instance I agree with everything he or she says.
I have been pointing this out time after time on here and been minused on nearly every occasion.
Truth is as above.
The Labour Party under Bliar, Kinnock et al have been 'feeding at the trough' and laughing all the way to the bank.
People in Wales though, will still vote for these bunch of parasites because their fathers always voted Labour so they must do so also.
No wonder the English question the intelligence of the populace in Wales when the Welsh can't even think for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]coalpicker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raymond Luxury-Yacht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: UKIP is like a busload of "expenses thieves", loaded up with nicked booze and fags and heading to the nearest sleezy casino with someone else's wife. When anyone says UKIP is the "answer"!...to what...a party of rich banker led public school grasping clowns? Then they deserve ALL thats coming their way. With extra Nectar points for stupidity.[/p][/quote]Bang on. Well said my friend.[/p][/quote]As a Tu and labour activist I think I can identify a fellow believer however let there be no illusion we have been betrayed . the new mantra of the party is the working class can kiss my A$& we have the foreman's job at last .Why do I say that ? Tony Blair, Iraq Afghanistan ect ect uncontrolled immigration and all its ramifications which is not impacting on the Kinnocks and the rest of the Ivory tower dwellers but on working class Brits , We are not being represented our loyalty is being thrown back in our faces we need to reassert our control on the peoples party sooner rather than later .[/p][/quote]I never thought that I would agree wholeheartedly with a Labour supporter. However, I am now about to say that in this instance I agree with everything he or she says. I have been pointing this out time after time on here and been minused on nearly every occasion. Truth is as above. The Labour Party under Bliar, Kinnock et al have been 'feeding at the trough' and laughing all the way to the bank. People in Wales though, will still vote for these bunch of parasites because their fathers always voted Labour so they must do so also. No wonder the English question the intelligence of the populace in Wales when the Welsh can't even think for themselves. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 1

3:01pm Fri 20 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

KarloMarko wrote:
Someone said to me that voting for UKIP to "clean up the system" is a bit like being worried about your daughter walking home alone at night and then "ringing up Fred and Rosemary West to look out for her..."
you like a few other deluded tories on here keep spouting this nonsense and lies about UKIP .either put up the facts and validation of where you got the facts from .or shut up . your just a bull s h i t t e r
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Someone said to me that voting for UKIP to "clean up the system" is a bit like being worried about your daughter walking home alone at night and then "ringing up Fred and Rosemary West to look out for her..."[/p][/quote]you like a few other deluded tories on here keep spouting this nonsense and lies about UKIP .either put up the facts and validation of where you got the facts from .or shut up . your just a bull s h i t t e r jimmysmith
  • Score: 1

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