Petition launched to stop e-cigs ban

AN E-CIGARETTE user group has set up a petition calling for the proposed ban on the products in Wales to be dropped.

Save E-Cigs launched the petition on the Welsh Government website and the it said 100,000 people across Wales are using the devices.

The petition calls on the Welsh Government to drop their proposed ban which could include use in enclosed public spaces, substantially enclosed public places and work places.

A member of the group, Simon Thurlow, said: “In its approach the Welsh Government are going against the precautionary principle as it was originally intended, they are trying to mitigate for a risk that has yet to be proven and in doing so may do more harm than good.

“The ban on smoking in enclosed public places was introduced to benefit the health of non-smokers whose health was put at risk as a result of being in close proximity to smokers. Therefore any proposal to include e-cigarettes within this ban must also be to protect the health of non-vapers, but we know from a recent major scientific study that passive vaping is not dangerous.”

Caerphilly council and Aneurin Bevan University Health Board have already banned e-cigarettes.

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6:48pm Fri 13 Jun 14

gingertom says...

you can sign it here:
https://www.assembly
wales.org/epetition-
list-of-signatories.
htm?pet_id=1023

http://www.efvi.eu/
you can sign it here: https://www.assembly wales.org/epetition- list-of-signatories. htm?pet_id=1023 http://www.efvi.eu/ gingertom
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7:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

In just about every other Argus article where a petition is mentioned, you kindly include a link to the petition. Strangely missing in this one, but at least one of your readers is on the ball - thanks gingertom.

If the wag were serious about improvving the health of the population, they would be promoting these devices, not trying to ban them.
In just about every other Argus article where a petition is mentioned, you kindly include a link to the petition. Strangely missing in this one, but at least one of your readers is on the ball - thanks gingertom. If the wag were serious about improvving the health of the population, they would be promoting these devices, not trying to ban them. -trigg-
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7:53pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Ollie254 says...

Whether you agree with e cigs or not you take a serious step when you allow the state to interfere in your everyday lawful activities. There has to be law to direct and guide society for everyone's mutual benefit but we are increasingly and casually allowing the state to encroach upon our everyday lives more and more. Laws to combat terrorism are used to ascertain if dustbins are correctly used.......the state will always abuse the powers we allow them and e cigs is another bit of the thin wedge that will become increasingly thicker if we allow it.
Whether you agree with e cigs or not you take a serious step when you allow the state to interfere in your everyday lawful activities. There has to be law to direct and guide society for everyone's mutual benefit but we are increasingly and casually allowing the state to encroach upon our everyday lives more and more. Laws to combat terrorism are used to ascertain if dustbins are correctly used.......the state will always abuse the powers we allow them and e cigs is another bit of the thin wedge that will become increasingly thicker if we allow it. Ollie254
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8:52pm Fri 13 Jun 14

crunchy2k says...

Naming a review of the scientific environmental hazard studies would help those who wish to read more. Dr. igor Burstyn, an environmental researcher at the Department of Environmental and Occupational Health, School of Public Health, Drexel University, Pennsylvania, USA, published a review this January entitled, 'Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks' and concluded that,

'Current state of knowledge about chemistry of liquids and aerosols associated with electronic cigarettes indicates that there is no evidence that vaping produces inhalable exposures to contaminants of the aerosol that would warrant health concerns by the standards that are used to ensure safety of workplaces.' He goes on to say,

'Exposures of bystanders are likely to be orders of magnitude less, and thus pose no apparent concern.'

It is obvious the banning of e-liquid device such as e-cigarettes is purely political and has no basis in fact. We are even finding out that nicotine is not the poison the anti-tobacco crowd has told us all theses years. A good well documented anti-smoking book is 'Nicotine and Health' (2013) by the ACSH. The book is available online free and explodes the myths surrounding nicotine.
Naming a review of the scientific environmental hazard studies would help those who wish to read more. Dr. igor Burstyn, an environmental researcher at the Department of Environmental and Occupational Health, School of Public Health, Drexel University, Pennsylvania, USA, published a review this January entitled, 'Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks' and concluded that, 'Current state of knowledge about chemistry of liquids and aerosols associated with electronic cigarettes indicates that there is no evidence that vaping produces inhalable exposures to contaminants of the aerosol that would warrant health concerns by the standards that are used to ensure safety of workplaces.' He goes on to say, 'Exposures of bystanders are likely to be orders of magnitude less, and thus pose no apparent concern.' It is obvious the banning of e-liquid device such as e-cigarettes is purely political and has no basis in fact. We are even finding out that nicotine is not the poison the anti-tobacco crowd has told us all theses years. A good well documented anti-smoking book is 'Nicotine and Health' (2013) by the ACSH. The book is available online free and explodes the myths surrounding nicotine. crunchy2k
  • Score: 7

4:57am Sun 15 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Ollie254 wrote:
Whether you agree with e cigs or not you take a serious step when you allow the state to interfere in your everyday lawful activities. There has to be law to direct and guide society for everyone's mutual benefit but we are increasingly and casually allowing the state to encroach upon our everyday lives more and more. Laws to combat terrorism are used to ascertain if dustbins are correctly used.......the state will always abuse the powers we allow them and e cigs is another bit of the thin wedge that will become increasingly thicker if we allow it.
True. It's a function of the far greater number of bureaucracies, such as the machinery of the Assembly and over-staffing in the "health" bureaucracies. More bureaucrats with little to do = more meddling in an attempt to justify their existence.
I'm sure many of these people are able and it is a shame that their ability is so wasted, but one cannot blame them for seeking the safety of State employment
[quote][p][bold]Ollie254[/bold] wrote: Whether you agree with e cigs or not you take a serious step when you allow the state to interfere in your everyday lawful activities. There has to be law to direct and guide society for everyone's mutual benefit but we are increasingly and casually allowing the state to encroach upon our everyday lives more and more. Laws to combat terrorism are used to ascertain if dustbins are correctly used.......the state will always abuse the powers we allow them and e cigs is another bit of the thin wedge that will become increasingly thicker if we allow it.[/p][/quote]True. It's a function of the far greater number of bureaucracies, such as the machinery of the Assembly and over-staffing in the "health" bureaucracies. More bureaucrats with little to do = more meddling in an attempt to justify their existence. I'm sure many of these people are able and it is a shame that their ability is so wasted, but one cannot blame them for seeking the safety of State employment Dai Rear
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