Woman fined £125 for 'feeding birds'

Woman fined £125 for 'feeding birds'

Woman fined £125 for 'feeding birds'

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A WOMAN was handed a £125 fine last week after she threw a piece of bread on the ground to “feed the birds”.

Mum-of-two Rhiannon Smothers was eating a Greggs roll in the car at the Cwmtillery Lakes car park on Thursday morning when she threw a piece out of the window for the birds, she says.

Two uniformed council wardens then appeared and handed the Cwmtillery 30-year-old the fine for littering.

“I think it’s absolutely disgraceful,” added Mrs Smothers. “I have a bag in the car especially for rubbish, but it’s bread, the rain would’ve washed it away. I was very rude to the officers, but I was so fuming.”

She couldn’t see any signs not to feed birds and didn’t see where the officers came from, said Mrs Smothers, but did admit throwing bread again in front of the officers after being given the fine.

“I then put it in the bin, but it was too late,” she said. “It’s the dearest roll I’ve ever had.

“I take my kids up there every single day to feed the ducks. I’ve always thrown food for birds. If I had tipped water out of a bottle would they have given me a fine?

“Bread dissolves,” she said. “As far as they are concerned it’s litter. I am going to protest the fine. I’m a recycler. If it was a cigarette, I’d pay.”

A Blaenau Gwent council spokeswoman said: “We have reviewed the circumstances of the incident and remain satisfied that an offence of littering was committed and that the issuing of a fixed penalty notice was appropriate. The person in receipt of the fine is entitled to appeal.”

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6:56pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

Rhiannon - are you sure it wasn't a Gregg's pie?
Rhiannon - are you sure it wasn't a Gregg's pie? Woodgnome
  • Score: -7

7:10pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Limestonecowboy says...

this just encourages vermin you don't need to feed the birds.
this just encourages vermin you don't need to feed the birds. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: -11

8:10pm Tue 17 Jun 14

keithbob says...

like the idiots who feed the flying rats in newport town center.swarms of pigeons roaming our streets and fly over your heads when disturbed or chased by little damians!.wheres the council wardens in newport then?
like the idiots who feed the flying rats in newport town center.swarms of pigeons roaming our streets and fly over your heads when disturbed or chased by little damians!.wheres the council wardens in newport then? keithbob
  • Score: 18

9:11pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Manley says...

Blaenau Gwent ought to read the DEFRA guidelines:

"When the offence is small
This is probably the hardest area for an
authority to define, i.e. when an offence is so
small that it would not be in the public interest
to issue a fixed penalty notice or to prosecute
in the magistrates’ court.
Such circumstances are only likely to arise
in relation to minor littering offences. Some
examples are given below:
A dropped crisp;
Some bread that is dropped on the ground
to feed some ducks; or
A piece of orange peel.
Ultimately, it is for the authority to decide
where the line is drawn, however any
authority should be mindful of how the public
might perceive enforcement against the
circumstances illustrated above, which along
with the media might not be sympathetic. "
Blaenau Gwent ought to read the DEFRA guidelines: "When the offence is small This is probably the hardest area for an authority to define, i.e. when an offence is so small that it would not be in the public interest to issue a fixed penalty notice or to prosecute in the magistrates’ court. Such circumstances are only likely to arise in relation to minor littering offences. Some examples are given below: A dropped crisp; Some bread that is dropped on the ground to feed some ducks; or A piece of orange peel. Ultimately, it is for the authority to decide where the line is drawn, however any authority should be mindful of how the public might perceive enforcement against the circumstances illustrated above, which along with the media might not be sympathetic. " Manley
  • Score: 65

10:30pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"Two uniformed council wardens then appeared and handed the Cwmtillery 30-year-old the fine for littering."

They were probably jealous that they didn't get a bit.
"Two uniformed council wardens then appeared and handed the Cwmtillery 30-year-old the fine for littering." They were probably jealous that they didn't get a bit. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 23

12:33am Wed 18 Jun 14

russ angel says...

Remeber that series "Bread" that used to be on the telly? I had a small roll in it.
Remeber that series "Bread" that used to be on the telly? I had a small roll in it. russ angel
  • Score: 16

12:34am Wed 18 Jun 14

russ angel says...

Remember*
Remember* russ angel
  • Score: -6

9:05am Wed 18 Jun 14

thedukeofdorkness says...

This is petty behavior by the wardens. Not sure giving them a mouthful helped matters... perhaps a mouthful of bread would have helped!

And there is nothing wrong with feeding birds and "vermin" alike - all part of the food chain and the web of life.
This is petty behavior by the wardens. Not sure giving them a mouthful helped matters... perhaps a mouthful of bread would have helped! And there is nothing wrong with feeding birds and "vermin" alike - all part of the food chain and the web of life. thedukeofdorkness
  • Score: 19

9:07am Wed 18 Jun 14

displayed says...

Altogether now:
"Feed the birds,
£125 a bag",..............
Altogether now: "Feed the birds, £125 a bag",.............. displayed
  • Score: 35

9:37am Wed 18 Jun 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

Perhaps she should have picked up the scrap of bread and then said ... prove it!
Perhaps she should have picked up the scrap of bread and then said ... prove it! ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 13

9:42am Wed 18 Jun 14

Explainitplease says...

Can we transfer the eagle eyed (see what I did there?) council wardens to Newport so they can find out who has graffiti'd Newport Market?
Can we transfer the eagle eyed (see what I did there?) council wardens to Newport so they can find out who has graffiti'd Newport Market? Explainitplease
  • Score: 24

10:51am Wed 18 Jun 14

thedukeofdorkness says...

!She couldn’t see any signs not to feed birds and didn’t see where the officers came from, said Mrs Smothers"

Did they announce themselves as ... "the Spanish inquisition!" :)
!She couldn’t see any signs not to feed birds and didn’t see where the officers came from, said Mrs Smothers" Did they announce themselves as ... "the Spanish inquisition!" :) thedukeofdorkness
  • Score: 8

10:56am Wed 18 Jun 14

bucks says...

A pathetic situation and a great example of the busybody mentality of officialdom. So feeding ducks etc is fine, but feeding wild birds isnt?
What a pair of jobsworths - I bet they both looked and acted like Blakey from On The Buses.

I'm not surprised she was angry and I hope she appeals the penalty.
A pathetic situation and a great example of the busybody mentality of officialdom. So feeding ducks etc is fine, but feeding wild birds isnt? What a pair of jobsworths - I bet they both looked and acted like Blakey from On The Buses. I'm not surprised she was angry and I hope she appeals the penalty. bucks
  • Score: 38

12:34pm Wed 18 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour.

Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering
This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour. Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering -trigg-
  • Score: -11

12:40pm Wed 18 Jun 14

blaina says...

Its about time Blaenau Gwent got there act togeather we are paying 44 councillors for what a council they cant run, Education in special measures, Special needs Education in special messures whole of councill in special messures we have to pay for everything and they are concerned with a woman feeding a duck discracefull .Its about time we got shot of this shower.
Its about time Blaenau Gwent got there act togeather we are paying 44 councillors for what a council they cant run, Education in special measures, Special needs Education in special messures whole of councill in special messures we have to pay for everything and they are concerned with a woman feeding a duck discracefull .Its about time we got shot of this shower. blaina
  • Score: 10

12:43pm Wed 18 Jun 14

golfer says...

The problem I see straight away is that it's a greggs roll ..large fine for them
The problem I see straight away is that it's a greggs roll ..large fine for them golfer
  • Score: -1

12:45pm Wed 18 Jun 14

golfer says...

If greggs had a shop sign in view of don't feed birds in tilllery ..that would save the situation
If greggs had a shop sign in view of don't feed birds in tilllery ..that would save the situation golfer
  • Score: -2

12:49pm Wed 18 Jun 14

throwy1 says...

thedukeofdorkness wrote:
This is petty behavior by the wardens. Not sure giving them a mouthful helped matters... perhaps a mouthful of bread would have helped!

And there is nothing wrong with feeding birds and "vermin" alike - all part of the food chain and the web of life.
I agree there is nothing wrong with feeding birds or "Vermin", except, feed them the correct food and bread is definitely NOT the correct food. Yes I know us old 'uns have been throwing bread for years in our youth. I would suggest Councils take a leaf out of the Newport wetlands book and encourage the public to feed birds by selling the correct food.
[quote][p][bold]thedukeofdorkness[/bold] wrote: This is petty behavior by the wardens. Not sure giving them a mouthful helped matters... perhaps a mouthful of bread would have helped! And there is nothing wrong with feeding birds and "vermin" alike - all part of the food chain and the web of life.[/p][/quote]I agree there is nothing wrong with feeding birds or "Vermin", except, feed them the correct food and bread is definitely NOT the correct food. Yes I know us old 'uns have been throwing bread for years in our youth. I would suggest Councils take a leaf out of the Newport wetlands book and encourage the public to feed birds by selling the correct food. throwy1
  • Score: 5

12:52pm Wed 18 Jun 14

K Selway says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
this just encourages vermin you don't need to feed the birds.
.....well it certainly encouraged the cowardly bullies who seemed to appear from nowhere.
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: this just encourages vermin you don't need to feed the birds.[/p][/quote].....well it certainly encouraged the cowardly bullies who seemed to appear from nowhere. K Selway
  • Score: 5

12:55pm Wed 18 Jun 14

K Selway says...

displayed wrote:
Altogether now:
"Feed the birds,
£125 a bag",..............
.....not helpful, but it did make me giggle.
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: Altogether now: "Feed the birds, £125 a bag",..............[/p][/quote].....not helpful, but it did make me giggle. K Selway
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Maaaaaaad !
Maaaaaaad ! Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Wed 18 Jun 14

cornucopia of crapitude says...

These wardens swan around the place issuing fines to anyone who doesn't duck. I don't blame the woman eider for her use of fowl language. She'll now have to teal the magistrate -it's not true ma' lard-.
Whether she suck-seeds is anybody's geese...
These wardens swan around the place issuing fines to anyone who doesn't duck. I don't blame the woman eider for her use of fowl language. She'll now have to teal the magistrate -it's not true ma' lard-. Whether she suck-seeds is anybody's geese... cornucopia of crapitude
  • Score: 13

1:40pm Wed 18 Jun 14

bucks says...

-trigg- wrote:
This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour.

Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering
trigg - its a totally different scenario to dropping litter in the street.

I wouldn't do it in the centre of town because its likely to be picked up by rats and pigeons, but I have dropped sandwich crusts and apple cores out of my car when parked in the country, knowing that its food for the wildlife. Whats the difference to that and putting food out for birds in your own back garden?




The woman says she had a bag in the car for litter ie crisp packets, sweet wrappers and empty cans.

All that was needed was a bit of common sense from the gestapo, perhaps but no,they issue a penalty.

No wonder she got abusive.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour. Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering[/p][/quote]trigg - its a totally different scenario to dropping litter in the street. I wouldn't do it in the centre of town because its likely to be picked up by rats and pigeons, but I have dropped sandwich crusts and apple cores out of my car when parked in the country, knowing that its food for the wildlife. Whats the difference to that and putting food out for birds in your own back garden? The woman says she had a bag in the car for litter ie crisp packets, sweet wrappers and empty cans. All that was needed was a bit of common sense from the gestapo, perhaps but no,they issue a penalty. No wonder she got abusive. bucks
  • Score: 11

5:13pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Hevsym says...

If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue
If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue Hevsym
  • Score: -2

8:53pm Wed 18 Jun 14

nptboi says...

No matter if the council think this woman deserves to be fined or not £125 fine for chucking a piece of bread on the floor to feed birds is absolutely disgusting, If local councils can get away with this highway robbery by making up figures to fine people then why is it that a low life scum bag can go and mug an old aged pensioner and get a fine of £50 ???? instead of the courts being able to throw the book at the scum that walk our streets.
No matter if the council think this woman deserves to be fined or not £125 fine for chucking a piece of bread on the floor to feed birds is absolutely disgusting, If local councils can get away with this highway robbery by making up figures to fine people then why is it that a low life scum bag can go and mug an old aged pensioner and get a fine of £50 ???? instead of the courts being able to throw the book at the scum that walk our streets. nptboi
  • Score: 9

11:35am Thu 19 Jun 14

Evil Flanker says...

At the end of the day parents are always going to feed birds with their kids, if we think we know better and or can control nature, we should think again.

Just more rediculous control whilst more serious issues get overlooked, absolutely absurd!
At the end of the day parents are always going to feed birds with their kids, if we think we know better and or can control nature, we should think again. Just more rediculous control whilst more serious issues get overlooked, absolutely absurd! Evil Flanker
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Thu 19 Jun 14

robrat41 says...

She is lucky she wasn't doing it in Morecambe

http://www.lancaster
guardian.co.uk/news/
local/pigeon-man-sen
t-to-prison-for-bird
-feeding-nuisance-1-
6645755
She is lucky she wasn't doing it in Morecambe http://www.lancaster guardian.co.uk/news/ local/pigeon-man-sen t-to-prison-for-bird -feeding-nuisance-1- 6645755 robrat41
  • Score: 1

9:13pm Thu 19 Jun 14

bugsy93 says...

You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect.
You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect. bugsy93
  • Score: -1

9:31am Fri 20 Jun 14

jimmysmith says...

-trigg- wrote:
This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour.

Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering
dont talk such bloody rubbish .council wardens .dont make me laugh .just jobsworths .a waste of local tax payers money ,and to make matters worse they were dossing up on a local beauty spot well away from the town etc ,and dont come back saying they were waiting for fly tippers because they dont get up there
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour. Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering[/p][/quote]dont talk such bloody rubbish .council wardens .dont make me laugh .just jobsworths .a waste of local tax payers money ,and to make matters worse they were dossing up on a local beauty spot well away from the town etc ,and dont come back saying they were waiting for fly tippers because they dont get up there jimmysmith
  • Score: 1

3:07pm Fri 20 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

and dont come back saying they were waiting for fly tippers because they dont get up there


They were at the local beauty spot to prevent people from littering and turning it into cess pit. It seems the location was well-chosen since they did indeed catch at least one person dropping litter and the publicity arising from this one instance may well serve to deter others from doing likewise.
[quote] and dont come back saying they were waiting for fly tippers because they dont get up there [/quote] They were at the local beauty spot to prevent people from littering and turning it into cess pit. It seems the location was well-chosen since they did indeed catch at least one person dropping litter and the publicity arising from this one instance may well serve to deter others from doing likewise. -trigg-
  • Score: 5

11:19pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Caerleonboy says...

Hevsym wrote:
If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue
Not all birds swim
[quote][p][bold]Hevsym[/bold] wrote: If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue[/p][/quote]Not all birds swim Caerleonboy
  • Score: 1

11:47am Sun 22 Jun 14

JanJenkins says...

When are these jobsworths going to use their brains, are they going to fine birds for poohing, or the trees from dropping their leaves.
If there is no sign not to feed the birds, you cannot stop someone feeding the birds!
When are these jobsworths going to use their brains, are they going to fine birds for poohing, or the trees from dropping their leaves. If there is no sign not to feed the birds, you cannot stop someone feeding the birds! JanJenkins
  • Score: 0

11:50am Sun 22 Jun 14

JanJenkins says...

These non jobs are costing us a fortune, it takes money from essential services, and going around a park looking for bits of bread in two's is a waste of my money.
These non jobs are costing us a fortune, it takes money from essential services, and going around a park looking for bits of bread in two's is a waste of my money. JanJenkins
  • Score: -2

8:57am Mon 23 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

The comments on here clearly demonstrate those who excuse littering as a legitimate pastime and those who do not.

Is it any wonder many town centres and beauty spots are rubbish tips with the mentality expressed on here?

There is NO excuse for littering FULL STOP.
The comments on here clearly demonstrate those who excuse littering as a legitimate pastime and those who do not. Is it any wonder many town centres and beauty spots are rubbish tips with the mentality expressed on here? There is NO excuse for littering FULL STOP. Woodgnome
  • Score: 0

9:26am Mon 23 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

bugsy93 wrote:
You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect.
Good example ref my last comment.
"Go away" is a motto of life for some selfish people.
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect.[/p][/quote]Good example ref my last comment. "Go away" is a motto of life for some selfish people. Woodgnome
  • Score: 2

9:26am Mon 23 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

bugsy93 wrote:
You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect.
Good example ref my last comment.
"Go away" is a motto of life for some selfish people.
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: You are not obliged to give out your personal details to any council official or any other buffoons. How can they issue a fixed penalty if they do not know who you are?.....Just tell them to 'go away' or some other phrase to that effect.[/p][/quote]Good example ref my last comment. "Go away" is a motto of life for some selfish people. Woodgnome
  • Score: 2

4:31pm Mon 23 Jun 14

endthelies says...

Can it be actually classed as litter though if it was to be eaten by the birds? we had a lot of people going up the moor behind our house to feed horses that were starving when we had severe snow. Is that littering too? Our local pond has geese that walk right up to the car doors waiting for people to give them stuff from their cars. If they ate it straight from your hand, would that be littering. Or if they dropped it on the ground after they've taken it from you, is that littering? I suggest they stick to fining people dropping dogends and packets which do not dissolve in rain etc. Its ridiculous to fine someone for throwing bread which will be eaten either by the ducks or the wild birds nearby and if its left, (which it very rarely is) Its going to disintegrate anyway!!
Can it be actually classed as litter though if it was to be eaten by the birds? we had a lot of people going up the moor behind our house to feed horses that were starving when we had severe snow. Is that littering too? Our local pond has geese that walk right up to the car doors waiting for people to give them stuff from their cars. If they ate it straight from your hand, would that be littering. Or if they dropped it on the ground after they've taken it from you, is that littering? I suggest they stick to fining people dropping dogends and packets which do not dissolve in rain etc. Its ridiculous to fine someone for throwing bread which will be eaten either by the ducks or the wild birds nearby and if its left, (which it very rarely is) Its going to disintegrate anyway!! endthelies
  • Score: 2

5:52pm Mon 23 Jun 14

louise111 says...

-trigg- wrote:
This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour.

Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering
If she threw the wrapper on the floor i would agree, but bread no. I think the wardens were being rather petty.

I think the wardens should concentrate their efforts on dog owners that don't pick up their dog's excrement. Fine those individuals with the max fine allowed.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour. Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering[/p][/quote]If she threw the wrapper on the floor i would agree, but bread no. I think the wardens were being rather petty. I think the wardens should concentrate their efforts on dog owners that don't pick up their dog's excrement. Fine those individuals with the max fine allowed. louise111
  • Score: 0

5:53pm Mon 23 Jun 14

louise111 says...

-trigg- wrote:
This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officersIf she threw the wrapper on the floor i would agree, but bread no. I think the wardens were being rather petty.

I think the wardens should concentrate their efforts on dog owners that don't pick up their dog's excrement. Fine those individuals with the max fine allowed.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officersIf she threw the wrapper on the floor i would agree, but bread no. I think the wardens were being rather petty. I think the wardens should concentrate their efforts on dog owners that don't pick up their dog's excrement. Fine those individuals with the max fine allowed. louise111
  • Score: -1

1:31pm Tue 24 Jun 14

DavidMclean says...

-trigg- wrote:
This isn't about feeding the birds.

This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour.

Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering
It's a fair point. It's easy to make a judgement on the story based on the way it has been reported. Do we even know she was 'feeding the birds' or was that a cover to gain sympathy? That she got abusive suggests she might not be the innocent she likes to make out. But then again, we all know council wardens can get a tad over-zealous at times.

Ultimately, food - even a Gregg's roll - is biodegradable, but do we really want people hurling Gregg's rolls around the place? Look at the state of Newport streets covered with bits of McDonalds, kebabs, chewing gum, chips etc. The people dropping that stuff could argue they're feeding the birds.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: This isn't about feeding the birds. This is about someone who threw an unwanted piece of their lunch away out of their car window and who was then quite rightly accused of littering. This person was spoken to about this by uniformed counccil wardens, whereupon she became "very rude to the officers" and repeated the offence despite having previously been warned not to do so. and was quite correctly fined for littering as a result of this behaviour. Rather than complain about the actions of the council wardens, they should be applauded. I only wish more people were punished for littering[/p][/quote]It's a fair point. It's easy to make a judgement on the story based on the way it has been reported. Do we even know she was 'feeding the birds' or was that a cover to gain sympathy? That she got abusive suggests she might not be the innocent she likes to make out. But then again, we all know council wardens can get a tad over-zealous at times. Ultimately, food - even a Gregg's roll - is biodegradable, but do we really want people hurling Gregg's rolls around the place? Look at the state of Newport streets covered with bits of McDonalds, kebabs, chewing gum, chips etc. The people dropping that stuff could argue they're feeding the birds. DavidMclean
  • Score: 1

4:51pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Hevsym says...

Caerleonboy wrote:
Hevsym wrote: If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue
Not all birds swim
Sorry, I was assuming she was feeding the birds on the lake she was parked at.
[quote][p][bold]Caerleonboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hevsym[/bold] wrote: If she was feeding the birds she could of got out of the car and thrown the bread into the lake...but throwing it out of her car window is littering and attracts rats. I suspect her rudeness to the Wardens was more of an issue[/p][/quote]Not all birds swim[/p][/quote]Sorry, I was assuming she was feeding the birds on the lake she was parked at. Hevsym
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