UPDATE: Stop-start traffic for eight miles after M4 crash

South Wales Argus: Crash closes two lanes closed on M4 in Newport Crash closes two lanes closed on M4 in Newport

UPDATE 5.21pm

Drivers are warned of  due to the earlier accident on the M4.

Congestion is stretching to the Second Severn Crossing toll booths. Travel time is between 45 and 60 minutes.

All all lanes re-opened at 4.55pm.

UPDATE 4.02pm

TWO lanes are blocked and queueing traffic reported for four miles due to a crash on the M4 in Newport.

The incident, involving three vehicles, happened on the westbound stretch around half a mile west of J24 between the Coldra and J25 at Caerleon.

Congestion is stretching to J23a at Magor Services.

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4:46pm Fri 4 Jul 14

hamiltonman85 says...

Another crash, another massive disruption. Really hope all involved are unharmed, but a reminder of why having only one major road going through South Wales doesn't work.
Another crash, another massive disruption. Really hope all involved are unharmed, but a reminder of why having only one major road going through South Wales doesn't work. hamiltonman85
  • Score: 15

5:03pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

So back in the 1940's and 1950's, New York City Planning Tsar Robert Moses had the brilliant idea that, to stop gridlock and traffic there needed to be more roads through and around NYC. So, because he was a "Can Do" kinda guy, he had them built. And you know what they found out? More roads meant more gridlock and traffic. So Moses had more roads built, to relieve the other roads. And you know what they found out? There was even more gridlock and traffic.

A relief road through Newport won't necessarily mean less traffic and back ups. And once they are built, you can't bring back the previous landscape.

I think before people start building more roads, they really should consider ALL the alternatives. I'm not saying DON'T build the relief road. I'm just saying to look at all the options and consider the impact and costs before starting anything.
So back in the 1940's and 1950's, New York City Planning Tsar Robert Moses had the brilliant idea that, to stop gridlock and traffic there needed to be more roads through and around NYC. So, because he was a "Can Do" kinda guy, he had them built. And you know what they found out? More roads meant more gridlock and traffic. So Moses had more roads built, to relieve the other roads. And you know what they found out? There was even more gridlock and traffic. A relief road through Newport won't necessarily mean less traffic and back ups. And once they are built, you can't bring back the previous landscape. I think before people start building more roads, they really should consider ALL the alternatives. I'm not saying DON'T build the relief road. I'm just saying to look at all the options and consider the impact and costs before starting anything. Paxman's Army
  • Score: -3

6:38pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jinxey says...

Paxman's Army wrote:
So back in the 1940's and 1950's, New York City Planning Tsar Robert Moses had the brilliant idea that, to stop gridlock and traffic there needed to be more roads through and around NYC. So, because he was a "Can Do" kinda guy, he had them built. And you know what they found out? More roads meant more gridlock and traffic. So Moses had more roads built, to relieve the other roads. And you know what they found out? There was even more gridlock and traffic.

A relief road through Newport won't necessarily mean less traffic and back ups. And once they are built, you can't bring back the previous landscape.

I think before people start building more roads, they really should consider ALL the alternatives. I'm not saying DON'T build the relief road. I'm just saying to look at all the options and consider the impact and costs before starting anything.
Just think, if Mr Moses hadn't built extra roads in the 1940's and 1950's then they would still be on the other roads meaning congestion would still be worse!

The population increases, the number of cars increases, the roads need to be upgraded.
[quote][p][bold]Paxman's Army[/bold] wrote: So back in the 1940's and 1950's, New York City Planning Tsar Robert Moses had the brilliant idea that, to stop gridlock and traffic there needed to be more roads through and around NYC. So, because he was a "Can Do" kinda guy, he had them built. And you know what they found out? More roads meant more gridlock and traffic. So Moses had more roads built, to relieve the other roads. And you know what they found out? There was even more gridlock and traffic. A relief road through Newport won't necessarily mean less traffic and back ups. And once they are built, you can't bring back the previous landscape. I think before people start building more roads, they really should consider ALL the alternatives. I'm not saying DON'T build the relief road. I'm just saying to look at all the options and consider the impact and costs before starting anything.[/p][/quote]Just think, if Mr Moses hadn't built extra roads in the 1940's and 1950's then they would still be on the other roads meaning congestion would still be worse! The population increases, the number of cars increases, the roads need to be upgraded. Jinxey
  • Score: 10

7:14pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

Jinxey, not necessarily. What they found out was that because the roads existed, less people used public transportation, felt they could commute to work much further away, and so they bought more and more cars and created more and more traffic.

Look, I'm a commuter. I hate the M4 jams as much as anyone. But let's face it, public transportation is woefully inadequate and expensive in our little corner of the globe. Why I should have to pay THAT much for a train ticket is beyond me. I would take the train if it cost less. Instead they keep raising the cost and so to SAVE money, I take the car. That ain't right.

By the way, Robert Moses was a real jerk. He put himself in a position where he ran the bridges and and was answerable to no one. The guy had these roads made, and charged tolls. As the traffic grew, the toll collections enriched his authority and made him more powerful.
Jinxey, not necessarily. What they found out was that because the roads existed, less people used public transportation, felt they could commute to work much further away, and so they bought more and more cars and created more and more traffic. Look, I'm a commuter. I hate the M4 jams as much as anyone. But let's face it, public transportation is woefully inadequate and expensive in our little corner of the globe. Why I should have to pay THAT much for a train ticket is beyond me. I would take the train if it cost less. Instead they keep raising the cost and so to SAVE money, I take the car. That ain't right. By the way, Robert Moses was a real jerk. He put himself in a position where he ran the bridges and and was answerable to no one. The guy had these roads made, and charged tolls. As the traffic grew, the toll collections enriched his authority and made him more powerful. Paxman's Army
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Fri 4 Jul 14

displayed says...

Just another day on the Newport M4..................
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Just another day on the Newport M4.................. .... displayed
  • Score: 0
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