Protesters turn out to prevent horse seizures

Ann Keating, (far left) Welsh Ponies Rescue and rehoming charity, with other protesters who want the council to back off from seizing horses on Manmoel Common, Tredegar (7988158)

STAY AWAY Protesters who want the Caerphilly and Blaenau Councils to back off from seizing horses on Manmoel Common, Tredegar (7988082)

STAY AWAY Protesters who want the Caerphilly and Blaenau Councils to back off from seizing horses on Manmoel Common, Tredegar (7987936)

STAY AWAY Protesters who want the Caerphilly and Blaenau Councils to back off from seizing horses on Manmoel Common, Tredegar (7987788)

First published in News

ANIMAL rights campaigners came together yesterday to protest against council plans to seize horses from a Gwent common.

Around 11 protestors were at Tredegar yesterday after Caerphilly and Blaenau Gwent councils announced that 50 horses and ponies on Manmoel Common would be seized if an owner does not come forward.

One campaigner described the turnout as “poor”.

A spokesman for the group who did not want to be named said: “I don’t like people hurting animals.

“It was a poor turnout for the protest this morning as we were hoping to have 20 people, but the aim was to try and prevent the council from seizing them.

“We believed today was the final day as the council gave us seven days until they seized them- but nobody turned up.

“We were waiting from around 9.45am until 12.30pm.

“The horses are not in poor health-they should be re-homed.

“It is going to cost them more money to cull the horses.

“There is no reason to kill them as they are in good health.”

The spokesman added that campaigners plan to keep protesting

The Argus reported last year how dozens of ponies and horses had been dumped on Manmoel Common, between the Ebbw and Sirhowy Valleys, and Cefn Golau Common, between Rhymney and Tredegar, and were either left for dead or suffering from severe malnutrition.

Campaigners rallied round to feed the animals, which they feared in some cases had been abandoned because of the depressed horse market and the horse meat scandal.

A Caerphilly council spokeswoman would neither confirm or deny whether the animals will be destroyed if the owners or new homes cannot be found.

In a statement the authorities said they had been working with charities and other groups to address welfare issues with the horses.

They had been asked to step in by the landowner, they said, citing powers under the new Control of Horses Act 2014 and the Animal Welfare Act 2006. Residents with any information about the owners should call 01495 235251.

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7:22am Wed 9 Jul 14

inkyskin says...

are these the same horses they were protesting about months ago? begging the RSPCA to help save them and to take them off the mountain?
are these the same horses they were protesting about months ago? begging the RSPCA to help save them and to take them off the mountain? inkyskin
  • Score: 5

8:39am Wed 9 Jul 14

displayed says...

"50 horses and ponies on Manmoel Common"
Why do they need 50 orses on a common, they aint using em!

The peoples who own em aren't travellers neither.

50 orses, neigh ver................
"50 horses and ponies on Manmoel Common" Why do they need 50 orses on a common, they aint using em! The peoples who own em aren't travellers neither. 50 orses, neigh ver................ displayed
  • Score: -5

10:09am Wed 9 Jul 14

Floppy backed says...

You cannot have dumped horses roaming. Eventually these horses end up on roads, into farmland and becoming unhealthy. There are so many unwanted and feral horses - all very well to say they are fed but this doesnt last havent these people got anything better to do???? Dont confuse dumped horses with Exmoors. They are so many unwanted horses around because the owners cant afford to keep them or cant control their breeding programme. We need to address the breeding citeria of these horses as there doesnt seem to be any - god knows if there is in-breeding. The RSPCA have better thing to do (sadly losing their way with endless prosecutions) helping animals that are suffering is their main aim and not happy to see more money going into storing these horses that prob never suit rehoming.

Too many people enter the horse world, havent a clue I see it, so clueless, buy any stray, can not afford the vets or health schemes because they havent an once of sense on buying one cannot grasp the principal of rent either. Whats the saying ? up to their thighs in leather - up to their necks in debt!
You cannot have dumped horses roaming. Eventually these horses end up on roads, into farmland and becoming unhealthy. There are so many unwanted and feral horses - all very well to say they are fed but this doesnt last havent these people got anything better to do???? Dont confuse dumped horses with Exmoors. They are so many unwanted horses around because the owners cant afford to keep them or cant control their breeding programme. We need to address the breeding citeria of these horses as there doesnt seem to be any - god knows if there is in-breeding. The RSPCA have better thing to do (sadly losing their way with endless prosecutions) helping animals that are suffering is their main aim and not happy to see more money going into storing these horses that prob never suit rehoming. Too many people enter the horse world, havent a clue I see it, so clueless, buy any stray, can not afford the vets or health schemes because they havent an once of sense on buying one cannot grasp the principal of rent either. Whats the saying ? up to their thighs in leather - up to their necks in debt! Floppy backed
  • Score: 10

12:21pm Wed 9 Jul 14

john.hall1000 says...

inkyskin wrote:
are these the same horses they were protesting about months ago? begging the RSPCA to help save them and to take them off the mountain?
Nobody in their right minds would ask the rspca for help, that would be giving any animal a death sentence! .
[quote][p][bold]inkyskin[/bold] wrote: are these the same horses they were protesting about months ago? begging the RSPCA to help save them and to take them off the mountain?[/p][/quote]Nobody in their right minds would ask the rspca for help, that would be giving any animal a death sentence! . john.hall1000
  • Score: 11

1:50pm Wed 9 Jul 14

varteg1 says...

The same problem exists on the Gwent levels between St Brides and Wentloog.

Horses chained to pegs on either side of then road which often manage to free themselves and wander onto the road.

Last Sunday I had to slam my brakes on as one casually stepped onto the tarmac right in front of me, dragging it's chain and peg along behind it.
I also object to horses being so chained up anyway, it's cruel to say the least, and to compound it by allowing them to be on the road sides is totally stupid.

If these folk wish to have such large animals they should be confined to fields and properly fenced in.

Horses are beautiful creatures, but their heyday is done, so unless you can afford them with all that implies, you should not be keeping them.
The same problem exists on the Gwent levels between St Brides and Wentloog. Horses chained to pegs on either side of then road which often manage to free themselves and wander onto the road. Last Sunday I had to slam my brakes on as one casually stepped onto the tarmac right in front of me, dragging it's chain and peg along behind it. I also object to horses being so chained up anyway, it's cruel to say the least, and to compound it by allowing them to be on the road sides is totally stupid. If these folk wish to have such large animals they should be confined to fields and properly fenced in. Horses are beautiful creatures, but their heyday is done, so unless you can afford them with all that implies, you should not be keeping them. varteg1
  • Score: 5

4:20pm Wed 9 Jul 14

gatty says...

if they wild why not,Horses been on common land for years.And has for the driver who said he had to slam his brakes on lol, why was you driving so fast.“It was a poor turnout for the protest this morning as we were hoping to have 20 people, but the aim was to try and prevent the council from seizing them". well i bike up around there alot,did not know anything about it or i would have been there for sure.
if they wild why not,Horses been on common land for years.And has for the driver who said he had to slam his brakes on lol, why was you driving so fast.“It was a poor turnout for the protest this morning as we were hoping to have 20 people, but the aim was to try and prevent the council from seizing them". well i bike up around there alot,did not know anything about it or i would have been there for sure. gatty
  • Score: 0

9:39pm Wed 9 Jul 14

varteg1 says...

gatty wrote:
if they wild why not,Horses been on common land for years.And has for the driver who said he had to slam his brakes on lol, why was you driving so fast.“It was a poor turnout for the protest this morning as we were hoping to have 20 people, but the aim was to try and prevent the council from seizing them". well i bike up around there alot,did not know anything about it or i would have been there for sure.
Actually Mr. Knownowt, I was driving at less than the 50mph speed limit for that section of road, the horse was standing still, but as I drew near , it simply stepped into the road, and as most of these horses are tethered normally, I could not be expected to realise it was freed from restraint. it gave me hardly any time to do other than slam my brakes on hard.

But apologists like you are the major part of the problem in this matter.

But again, being a cyclist , one of the most dangerous characters to enter the road system, your comment is about par for/ the course, considering cyclist rarely vake responsibility for their own stupid actions.
[quote][p][bold]gatty[/bold] wrote: if they wild why not,Horses been on common land for years.And has for the driver who said he had to slam his brakes on lol, why was you driving so fast.“It was a poor turnout for the protest this morning as we were hoping to have 20 people, but the aim was to try and prevent the council from seizing them". well i bike up around there alot,did not know anything about it or i would have been there for sure.[/p][/quote]Actually Mr. Knownowt, I was driving at less than the 50mph speed limit for that section of road, the horse was standing still, but as I drew near , it simply stepped into the road, and as most of these horses are tethered normally, I could not be expected to realise it was freed from restraint. it gave me hardly any time to do other than slam my brakes on hard. But apologists like you are the major part of the problem in this matter. But again, being a cyclist , one of the most dangerous characters to enter the road system, your comment is about par for/ the course, considering cyclist rarely vake responsibility for their own stupid actions. varteg1
  • Score: 1

9:46pm Wed 9 Jul 14

varteg1 says...

And..to finish... it is obvious you do not know the Gwent level road system,

It may be 'common land' but for most of the route it consists of just two fairly wide verges, not bloody great open areas ,like the mountain tops north of the heads of the valleys road and beyond Blaenavon, where many horses have been simply abandoned. And where quite a few died in the last winter.

That is why these poor creatures are left tethered via a chain to a peg in the ground, the 'common land' is hardly wide enough for them anyway, if they were not so tethered, they would be on the road causing chaos and accidents all the time.

Speak when you are wised up.
And..to finish... it is obvious you do not know the Gwent level road system, It may be 'common land' but for most of the route it consists of just two fairly wide verges, not bloody great open areas ,like the mountain tops north of the heads of the valleys road and beyond Blaenavon, where many horses have been simply abandoned. And where quite a few died in the last winter. That is why these poor creatures are left tethered via a chain to a peg in the ground, the 'common land' is hardly wide enough for them anyway, if they were not so tethered, they would be on the road causing chaos and accidents all the time. Speak when you are wised up. varteg1
  • Score: 4

6:53am Thu 10 Jul 14

john.hall1000 says...

displayed wrote:
"50 horses and ponies on Manmoel Common"
Why do they need 50 orses on a common, they aint using em!

The peoples who own em aren't travellers neither.

50 orses, neigh ver................
If you remove ponies/horses from these commons less people will drive through them, in on way your taking away a free tourist attraction. And have you ever been on manmoel common. The rspca don't care about the animals, unless there is a camera crew or reporters there.
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: "50 horses and ponies on Manmoel Common" Why do they need 50 orses on a common, they aint using em! The peoples who own em aren't travellers neither. 50 orses, neigh ver................[/p][/quote]If you remove ponies/horses from these commons less people will drive through them, in on way your taking away a free tourist attraction. And have you ever been on manmoel common. The rspca don't care about the animals, unless there is a camera crew or reporters there. john.hall1000
  • Score: 2

7:52am Thu 10 Jul 14

displayed says...

Farmer speaks out over fly grazing
Debbie James
Friday 15 November 2013 12:00
William Jenkins

"A Welsh farmer has spoken out about the growing problem of horse abandonment which has robbed him of grazing for his cattle and sheep."

See:
http://vimeo.com/659
69853
http://vimeo.com/625
90203

A beautiful area it may be, but someones got to maintain and monitor it..................
.....
The council are doing just that.
Farmer speaks out over fly grazing Debbie James Friday 15 November 2013 12:00 William Jenkins "A Welsh farmer has spoken out about the growing problem of horse abandonment which has robbed him of grazing for his cattle and sheep." See: http://vimeo.com/659 69853 http://vimeo.com/625 90203 A beautiful area it may be, but someones got to maintain and monitor it.................. ..... The council are doing just that. displayed
  • Score: 2

11:12am Fri 11 Jul 14

Gareth says...

Story X: local council does nothing - there is disgust all around.
Story Y: local council does something - there is disgust all around.
Story X: local council does nothing - there is disgust all around. Story Y: local council does something - there is disgust all around. Gareth
  • Score: 1

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