M4 fence goes up ahead of Newport Nato summit

Fencing along the M4 by  the Celtic Manor in Newport as part of the NATO security. (9015592)

Fencing along the M4 by the Celtic Manor in Newport as part of the NATO security. (9015592)

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STEEL fences have started to go up enclosing the Celtic Manor ahead of the Nato summit next month as Gwent police have also confirmed road and footpath closures which will be put in place.

The 20km of fencing, which is part of Gwent Police’s security operation, can be spotted along the M4, around the Celtic Manor and in key venues in Cardiff.

Gwent Police also confirmed the road and footpath closures taking place during the first week in September.

Two roads will be closed for six days and all footpaths that cross the Celtic Manor Resort will be closed throughout the event.

Catsash Road will be closed from the junction on Belmont Hill on the B4236 to the junction with Roman Road and Bulmore Road will be closed from The Bell pub in Caerleon to the junction of Abernant Road from 10pm on Sunday, August 31 until 7am on Saturday, September 6. Police say these are the only two road closures in Newport currently planned for the event.

Paths closed to the public include the Usk Valley Walk and pathways coming from Chepstow Road, Langstone, Bulmore Road, Catsash Road, Abernant Road and Roman Road.

Assistant Chief Constable Chris Armitt, who is leading the policing and security operation for the summit, said: “As the Nato summit draws closer we are finalising our preparations for the policing operation which will help ensure the safety of local residents and delegates.

“Whilst we are doing all we can to minimise any potential disruption to local residents and businesses the scale of the security operation required will inevitably cause some disruption.

“We are grateful to the public for their continued support and understanding, and apologise in advance if any of our activity causes any disruption or inconvenience to them.”

Meanwhile, three Welsh companies have been awarded contracts to help deliver the summit. The companies will be working alongside events agency M, which will be delivering the production.

Floorex, of Cwmbran, will be providing and fitting more than 7,000 square metres of flooring and Barnaby Road Markings, of Caerphilly, will be working on the internal layout at the Celtic Manor.

Aggreko, of Port Talbot, will be providing the additional power required to supply venues across the site including for the 1,200 international media expected to attend.

The summit is taking place on September 4 and 5.

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10:56am Thu 7 Aug 14

Musing Militant says...

hhmmmmm. Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees? That would have avoided any disruption to traffic, made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and also possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open.
Oh I suppose it was easier to put up with the ground being level etc but it is the localish traffic being disrupted not Celtic Manor or the delegates etc.
hhmmmmm. Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees? That would have avoided any disruption to traffic, made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and also possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open. Oh I suppose it was easier to put up with the ground being level etc but it is the localish traffic being disrupted not Celtic Manor or the delegates etc. Musing Militant
  • Score: 11

12:17pm Thu 7 Aug 14

b3talover says...

Musing Militant wrote:
hhmmmmm. Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees? That would have avoided any disruption to traffic, made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and also possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open.
Oh I suppose it was easier to put up with the ground being level etc but it is the localish traffic being disrupted not Celtic Manor or the delegates etc.
"Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees?" - because this would be within the exclusion zone suggested by the relevant security services. "That would have avoided any disruption to traffic" - the fence isn't blocking the road. "made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first" - wouldn't they still have to navigate the trees if they jumped the fence? "possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open" - Yes, I'm sure Obama's secret service analysts would be absolutely fine with this...
[quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: hhmmmmm. Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees? That would have avoided any disruption to traffic, made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and also possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open. Oh I suppose it was easier to put up with the ground being level etc but it is the localish traffic being disrupted not Celtic Manor or the delegates etc.[/p][/quote]"Why couldn't the fence have been put up on Celtic Manor land the other side of the trees?" - because this would be within the exclusion zone suggested by the relevant security services. "That would have avoided any disruption to traffic" - the fence isn't blocking the road. "made it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first" - wouldn't they still have to navigate the trees if they jumped the fence? "possibly allowed some footpaths to remain open" - Yes, I'm sure Obama's secret service analysts would be absolutely fine with this... b3talover
  • Score: 16

12:31pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Neil0505 says...

Also. Regardless of whichever side of the trees the fence is, the protesters are gonna either have to scale the fence and walk through the trees. Or maybe even walk through the trees then scale the fence?
Also. Regardless of whichever side of the trees the fence is, the protesters are gonna either have to scale the fence and walk through the trees. Or maybe even walk through the trees then scale the fence? Neil0505
  • Score: 15

1:03pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Woodgnome says...

The cost of this and the long term disruption is too much for a small welsh city.
The cost of this and the long term disruption is too much for a small welsh city. Woodgnome
  • Score: 27

1:29pm Thu 7 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

The protesters are flying into the Manor. They are already building kites and hang gliders and will invade Newport's Obamaland just like D.Day. The plod will still be watching the roads and back lanes as Obama is hoisted screaming aloft and then dropped in the mudbank. No overtime will be paid and the Plod will have to cancel their planned luxery holidays in the Costa Del Thieva.
The protesters are flying into the Manor. They are already building kites and hang gliders and will invade Newport's Obamaland just like D.Day. The plod will still be watching the roads and back lanes as Obama is hoisted screaming aloft and then dropped in the mudbank. No overtime will be paid and the Plod will have to cancel their planned luxery holidays in the Costa Del Thieva. KarloMarko
  • Score: -4

2:53pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Musing Militant says...

HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously.
Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol
Now seriously : Footpaths....America
n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID.
BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.
HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously. Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol Now seriously : Footpaths....America n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID. BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road. Musing Militant
  • Score: -7

3:18pm Thu 7 Aug 14

irisheyes says...

Who is footing the cost of fencing,policing etc.because,if it's Newport then its not the NATO protesters that the police should worry about but the people protesting against our council tax being used to fence off the Celtic Manor.The only person to gain from all this will be the only one who gained from the Ryder Cup,Mr.Matthews yet again !!
Who is footing the cost of fencing,policing etc.because,if it's Newport then its not the NATO protesters that the police should worry about but the people protesting against our council tax being used to fence off the Celtic Manor.The only person to gain from all this will be the only one who gained from the Ryder Cup,Mr.Matthews yet again !! irisheyes
  • Score: 19

3:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Musing Militant wrote:
HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously.
Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol
Now seriously : Footpaths....America

n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID.
BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.
Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to whinge about.

As a daily M4 commuter I am yet to experience any traffic on the Jct24 slip road as a result of the fence.
"Park cars on hard shoulder"? The great unwashed now cant do that, I would like to see them try and park in the live slip road or lane 3 of the M4.
There will be security everywhere you just won't see them, there were snipers all over the place during the ryder cup.

Is not using a footpath for a coupe of days really that big a deal? The security services have enough to deal with pandering to the whims of whingers like you.

You're about as militant as Jeffrey from rainbow.
[quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously. Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol Now seriously : Footpaths....America n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID. BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.[/p][/quote]Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to whinge about. As a daily M4 commuter I am yet to experience any traffic on the Jct24 slip road as a result of the fence. "Park cars on hard shoulder"? The great unwashed now cant do that, I would like to see them try and park in the live slip road or lane 3 of the M4. There will be security everywhere you just won't see them, there were snipers all over the place during the ryder cup. Is not using a footpath for a coupe of days really that big a deal? The security services have enough to deal with pandering to the whims of whingers like you. You're about as militant as Jeffrey from rainbow. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 8

5:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Roger Elliot says...

"Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded. I personally do not want to live in that America. Oh hang on....
"Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded. I personally do not want to live in that America. Oh hang on.... Roger Elliot
  • Score: 4

6:39pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Lliswerry Man says...

Just so we know, how did they get permission to close a slip road, the inner slip road is partially blocked by this cage to keep the Animals in.... I used this stretch today and it has clearly taken over the inside lane of a Major Route.......which ultimately will cause disruption, fence should have been ON Celtic Manor side, the site holding the event.

I for one will be glad when its over...... but have eyes watching for this "extra" cash boost that all spectators have claimed will happen, I am still trying to find the cash boost that happened from the Ryder Cup...

As for the guy who always complains ( whinges about us whingers ) get a grip... we are ALL entitled to a view, which might not be the same as yours or mine, get over it. Freedom of speech may slowly be eroding in this Great Land of Ours, but some of us will still speak our minds whether people like you, like it or not.
Just so we know, how did they get permission to close a slip road, the inner slip road is partially blocked by this cage to keep the Animals in.... I used this stretch today and it has clearly taken over the inside lane of a Major Route.......which ultimately will cause disruption, fence should have been ON Celtic Manor side, the site holding the event. I for one will be glad when its over...... but have eyes watching for this "extra" cash boost that all spectators have claimed will happen, I am still trying to find the cash boost that happened from the Ryder Cup... As for the guy who always complains ( whinges about us whingers ) get a grip... we are ALL entitled to a view, which might not be the same as yours or mine, get over it. Freedom of speech may slowly be eroding in this Great Land of Ours, but some of us will still speak our minds whether people like you, like it or not. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 7

8:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

VoiceOfDaPort says...

Lliswerry Man wrote:
Just so we know, how did they get permission to close a slip road, the inner slip road is partially blocked by this cage to keep the Animals in.... I used this stretch today and it has clearly taken over the inside lane of a Major Route.......which ultimately will cause disruption, fence should have been ON Celtic Manor side, the site holding the event.

I for one will be glad when its over...... but have eyes watching for this "extra" cash boost that all spectators have claimed will happen, I am still trying to find the cash boost that happened from the Ryder Cup...

As for the guy who always complains ( whinges about us whingers ) get a grip... we are ALL entitled to a view, which might not be the same as yours or mine, get over it. Freedom of speech may slowly be eroding in this Great Land of Ours, but some of us will still speak our minds whether people like you, like it or not.
I like how your having a go at him for expressing his view because as you say, he is entitled to express it.

As for 'how did they get permission to close a slip road', well as the UK government is hosting the summit I would hazard a guess that they gave themselves permission to do it, at least they haven't just closed the slip road completely.
[quote][p][bold]Lliswerry Man[/bold] wrote: Just so we know, how did they get permission to close a slip road, the inner slip road is partially blocked by this cage to keep the Animals in.... I used this stretch today and it has clearly taken over the inside lane of a Major Route.......which ultimately will cause disruption, fence should have been ON Celtic Manor side, the site holding the event. I for one will be glad when its over...... but have eyes watching for this "extra" cash boost that all spectators have claimed will happen, I am still trying to find the cash boost that happened from the Ryder Cup... As for the guy who always complains ( whinges about us whingers ) get a grip... we are ALL entitled to a view, which might not be the same as yours or mine, get over it. Freedom of speech may slowly be eroding in this Great Land of Ours, but some of us will still speak our minds whether people like you, like it or not.[/p][/quote]I like how your having a go at him for expressing his view because as you say, he is entitled to express it. As for 'how did they get permission to close a slip road', well as the UK government is hosting the summit I would hazard a guess that they gave themselves permission to do it, at least they haven't just closed the slip road completely. VoiceOfDaPort
  • Score: 4

8:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Don't see how this fence is gonna stop plane MH-370 that the Russians have been hiding for months. Keep your eyes on the sky ladies and gents
Don't see how this fence is gonna stop plane MH-370 that the Russians have been hiding for months. Keep your eyes on the sky ladies and gents Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: 6

10:16pm Thu 7 Aug 14

displayed says...

"M4 fence goes up ahead of Newport Nato summit"
Turning Newport in to a high security prison..............
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"M4 fence goes up ahead of Newport Nato summit" Turning Newport in to a high security prison.............. ........... displayed
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
"Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded. I personally do not want to live in that America. Oh hang on....
Bang goes my hiking trips to wentwood up catsash road, thanks nato.
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: "Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded. I personally do not want to live in that America. Oh hang on....[/p][/quote]Bang goes my hiking trips to wentwood up catsash road, thanks nato. Evil Flanker
  • Score: 1

2:00am Fri 8 Aug 14

b3talover says...

Musing Militant wrote:
HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously.
Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol
Now seriously : Footpaths....America

n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID.
BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.
"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters?
[quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously. Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol Now seriously : Footpaths....America n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID. BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.[/p][/quote]"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters? b3talover
  • Score: 2

7:46am Fri 8 Aug 14

corpamassive says...

b3talover wrote:
Musing Militant wrote:
HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously.
Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol
Now seriously : Footpaths....America


n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID.
BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.
"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters?
They sell them missiles in the 11o'clock shop in Alway,
Burburry check aswell.
[quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously. Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol Now seriously : Footpaths....America n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID. BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.[/p][/quote]"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters?[/p][/quote]They sell them missiles in the 11o'clock shop in Alway, Burburry check aswell. corpamassive
  • Score: 3

9:05am Fri 8 Aug 14

Llanmartinangel says...

He's bringing his car, just in case he needs to drive into Newport.
President Obama's choice of ride, fondly known as 'The Beast', was specially commissioned from Cadillac.
The seven-seat, eight-tonne, Beast has bunker-like protection (obviously), however, the armour is so thick each door weighs the same as a Boeing 747 cabin door. It also comes complete with a separate oxygen supply and a totally sealed interior to protect against a gas attack. Oh, and several litres of the Commander-in-Chief's blood, too.
He's bringing his car, just in case he needs to drive into Newport. President Obama's choice of ride, fondly known as 'The Beast', was specially commissioned from Cadillac. The seven-seat, eight-tonne, Beast has bunker-like protection (obviously), however, the armour is so thick each door weighs the same as a Boeing 747 cabin door. It also comes complete with a separate oxygen supply and a totally sealed interior to protect against a gas attack. Oh, and several litres of the Commander-in-Chief's blood, too. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 3

10:01am Fri 8 Aug 14

b3talover says...

corpamassive wrote:
b3talover wrote:
Musing Militant wrote:
HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously.
Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol
Now seriously : Footpaths....America



n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID.
BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.
"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters?
They sell them missiles in the 11o'clock shop in Alway,
Burburry check aswell.
Some roman candles and the pipe from the end of a vacuum cleaner? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]corpamassive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some. Obviously. Yes the fence does make it harder for any protesters as they would have had to get through the trees etc first and of course they would have to get through the trees wherever the fence is but think about it. They could park their cars on the hard shoulder first so the police would know they were somewhere around. After all the cops have asked for cooperation lol lol Now seriously : Footpaths....America n Secret Service are never fine with anything. If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc.. Besides as far as I am led to believe I am, and a few others of us in Newport, are residents and citizens of UK not the USA and the UK is not part of the USA...well at least not yet. And we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime unless it was for OUR SAFETY to stop us. And of course instead of blocking the police could always ask us to show some form of ID, something the spooks are unlikely to do if you ask them for ID. BTW disruption to traffic is due to fence taking out one lane on "long" part of the slip road.[/p][/quote]"HMMMMM thinking outside the box is difficult for some." There's thinking outside the box in terms of intelligent creativity and there's utter madness. "If a terrorist wanted to take their president or anybody else out of the ball game they could easily fire a missile at the helicopter from anywhere in Ringland etc" I think you'll find that helicopters transporting World leaders will carry up to date ECM, ECCM, flare and chaff dispensers along with up to date avionics and radar systems to guard against that threat. Shoulder mounted SAM systems are very complex, expensive and very difficult to smuggle into the country. The intelligence services of most countries will have considered these scenarios beforehand. What you don't realise is that the security for this event was sorted out ages ago and is constantly being revised. You've probably walked past members of the security services for the past year in town and not actually realised. You have no clue about how far in advance they have thought about this event. If you were playing chess against them, they would be thinking 30 moves ahead of you before you even moved a pawn. "we should be able to walk on PUBLIC footpaths at anytime" - nope national security in the UK comes before your personal rights unfortunately. Hard decisions to make sure you're safe. You sleep safely because there are people working around the clock to make it that way. How often do you use those footpaths anyway? Seems that everyone wants to use those footpaths when World leaders are in town to exercise their rights. Why can't you walk on them after the event? Does it have something to do with your username? Are you one of those "violent" peace protesters?[/p][/quote]They sell them missiles in the 11o'clock shop in Alway, Burburry check aswell.[/p][/quote]Some roman candles and the pipe from the end of a vacuum cleaner? ;-) b3talover
  • Score: -1

10:13am Fri 8 Aug 14

rmh1989 says...

they should make obonga man go to the summit without all his protection etc. what a wimp!
they should make obonga man go to the summit without all his protection etc. what a wimp! rmh1989
  • Score: -6

10:15am Fri 8 Aug 14

Musing Militant says...

oh b3talover you are so easy to wind up lol lol lol

A few serious thoughts though:
1) as Roger Elliot puts it "Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded."
2) As for missiles being smuggled into UK, Some are actually made here so don't have to be brought in.
3) Some terrorists don't actually care about being caught or dying....so long as they do some damage.
4) Some people are off the security services radar!
5 The people in charge of security do like some to be seen hence the copper walking along my street the other day and talking with a London accent. Also the army guys in land rovers and maps parked up in a layby the other day.
6) yes some security is hidden and yes I may have walked past some I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not. I don't particularly care.
7) Who is making money out of all this,
8) Strange how NATO conference, attended by military and non military people, is supposed to be about defending democratic states yet people are not allowed to get close enough for their democratic protests to literally be heard!
8) Its good to have a massive stupid unintelligent whinge sometimes isn't it b3talover?
oh b3talover you are so easy to wind up lol lol lol A few serious thoughts though: 1) as Roger Elliot puts it "Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded." 2) As for missiles being smuggled into UK, Some are actually made here so don't have to be brought in. 3) Some terrorists don't actually care about being caught or dying....so long as they do some damage. 4) Some people are off the security services radar! 5 The people in charge of security do like some to be seen hence the copper walking along my street the other day and talking with a London accent. Also the army guys in land rovers and maps parked up in a layby the other day. 6) yes some security is hidden and yes I may have walked past some I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not. I don't particularly care. 7) Who is making money out of all this, 8) Strange how NATO conference, attended by military and non military people, is supposed to be about defending democratic states yet people are not allowed to get close enough for their democratic protests to literally be heard! 8) Its good to have a massive stupid unintelligent whinge sometimes isn't it b3talover? Musing Militant
  • Score: 1

11:56am Fri 8 Aug 14

exMark says...

The Celtic Manor is well prepared to guard the numerous VIP's in the event of a terrorist attack. Plenty of bunkers.
The Celtic Manor is well prepared to guard the numerous VIP's in the event of a terrorist attack. Plenty of bunkers. exMark
  • Score: 7

2:11pm Fri 8 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

Woodgnome wrote:
The cost of this and the long term disruption is too much for a small welsh city.
No no no! This is a 'great opportunity' for Newport. Have you not been listening to the predictable and unthinking soundbytes by local politicos and business leaders who rushed out statements the moment the Summit was announced?

As a punishment write out 100 times; The NATO Summit is a great opportunity for Newport.

You can't go on lunch until you've finished.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: The cost of this and the long term disruption is too much for a small welsh city.[/p][/quote]No no no! This is a 'great opportunity' for Newport. Have you not been listening to the predictable and unthinking soundbytes by local politicos and business leaders who rushed out statements the moment the Summit was announced? As a punishment write out 100 times; The NATO Summit is a great opportunity for Newport. You can't go on lunch until you've finished. DavidMclean
  • Score: -1

7:04pm Fri 8 Aug 14

b3talover says...

Musing Militant wrote:
oh b3talover you are so easy to wind up lol lol lol

A few serious thoughts though:
1) as Roger Elliot puts it "Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded."
2) As for missiles being smuggled into UK, Some are actually made here so don't have to be brought in.
3) Some terrorists don't actually care about being caught or dying....so long as they do some damage.
4) Some people are off the security services radar!
5 The people in charge of security do like some to be seen hence the copper walking along my street the other day and talking with a London accent. Also the army guys in land rovers and maps parked up in a layby the other day.
6) yes some security is hidden and yes I may have walked past some I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not. I don't particularly care.
7) Who is making money out of all this,
8) Strange how NATO conference, attended by military and non military people, is supposed to be about defending democratic states yet people are not allowed to get close enough for their democratic protests to literally be heard!
8) Its good to have a massive stupid unintelligent whinge sometimes isn't it b3talover?
I was going to ignore you but then I caught a glimpse of this little nugget "I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not." - what's your address so I can send you a tinfoil hat?
[quote][p][bold]Musing Militant[/bold] wrote: oh b3talover you are so easy to wind up lol lol lol A few serious thoughts though: 1) as Roger Elliot puts it "Not using a footpath for a couple of days" IS that big a deal because it takes away Public Right Of Way, which is but one of the hard won freedoms that are gradually being eroded." 2) As for missiles being smuggled into UK, Some are actually made here so don't have to be brought in. 3) Some terrorists don't actually care about being caught or dying....so long as they do some damage. 4) Some people are off the security services radar! 5 The people in charge of security do like some to be seen hence the copper walking along my street the other day and talking with a London accent. Also the army guys in land rovers and maps parked up in a layby the other day. 6) yes some security is hidden and yes I may have walked past some I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not. I don't particularly care. 7) Who is making money out of all this, 8) Strange how NATO conference, attended by military and non military people, is supposed to be about defending democratic states yet people are not allowed to get close enough for their democratic protests to literally be heard! 8) Its good to have a massive stupid unintelligent whinge sometimes isn't it b3talover?[/p][/quote]I was going to ignore you but then I caught a glimpse of this little nugget "I have no idea if they are listening to me and mine but if they are then I may clearly be in their sights or not." - what's your address so I can send you a tinfoil hat? b3talover
  • Score: -1

1:21pm Sat 9 Aug 14

displayed says...

Now i dont want anyone to take a fence, but determined protesters will get in if they have a mind too.

Just as iron bars do not make a prison, neither does a security corden fence out a protester.......
Now i dont want anyone to take a fence, but determined protesters will get in if they have a mind too. Just as iron bars do not make a prison, neither does a security corden fence out a protester....... displayed
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