Quakers condemn Nato summit with peace vigil

PEACE VIGIL: Caerleon, Newport Quakers at Goldcroft Common in Caerleon.

PEACE VIGIL: Caerleon, Newport Quakers at Goldcroft Common in Caerleon.

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QUAKERS from Caerleon and Newport held a peace vigil yesterday (SUN) condemning the upcoming Nato summit.

The Caerleon, Newport Quakers said they cannot support an organisation that "will be working towards future military planning and implementation as a way to solve the ills of the world" during next month's summit.

The group are also critical of Nato's military interventions in countries such as Libya and Afghanistan which they say has caused "large scale death and destruction".

The hour-long peace vigil was held on Goldcroft Common in Caerleon yesterday.

A spokesman for the Caerleon, Newport Quakers said: "We are called to live in the virtue of that life and power that takes away the occasion of all wars.

"Do you faithfully maintain the testimony that war and preparation for war are inconsistent with the spirit of Christ? Search out whatever in your own life may contain the seeds of war. Stand firm in our testimony even when others prepare to commit acts of violence, yet always remember that they too are children of God.”

The Quakers, formally known as the Religious Society of Friends, say their stance on war is from the religion's book Quaker Faith and Practice.

The spokesman added: "Quakers, therefore, are committed to striving for peace and justice through non-violent, social change, waging peace at all levels of society, from teaching mediation to school children to being active in disarmament.

"In addition, Quakers try to be aware of and work peaceably to eradicate instances of injustice, inequality and oppression in the world as these contain the seeds of future conflict and aggression.

"As Quakers hold that there is 'that of God in everyone', we cannot therefore support but only condemn a Nato summit that will be working towards future military planning and implementation as a way to solve the ills of the world."

The Quakers' vigil comes ahead of a week of protests due to take place in Cardiff and Newport from August 30.

Protesters from umbrella group No Nato Newport have organised a march, counter-summit and mass civil disobedience opposing Nato's presence.

Gwent Police have estimated 20,000 protestors will descend on the city and plans have been made to hold a week-long peace camp in Tredegar Park to accommodate them.

The summit is being held on September 4 and 5 at the Celtic Manor Resort in Newport.

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9:23am Mon 18 Aug 14

Musing Militant says...

Hmmmmmm I wonder if the Quakers in their blind faith and following of their god have realised that their god is a destructive entity. I mean he supposedly has caused the destruction of the persecutors of Jews in ancient times thanks to the entreaties of Moses. He has, in some peoples eyes, delivered them from an enemy by eliminating the enemy and don't most people thank their god for strength when victorious? stre. And even by their own admission the Quakers must realise that god must have anger and violence and the will to carry it out. After all doesn't the spokesman say (quote) "As Quakers hold that there is 'that of God in everyone'......" So although I may be against war those who support any god must ultimately be for a war at some point.
Hmmmmmm I wonder if the Quakers in their blind faith and following of their god have realised that their god is a destructive entity. I mean he supposedly has caused the destruction of the persecutors of Jews in ancient times thanks to the entreaties of Moses. He has, in some peoples eyes, delivered them from an enemy by eliminating the enemy and don't most people thank their god for strength when victorious? stre. And even by their own admission the Quakers must realise that god must have anger and violence and the will to carry it out. After all doesn't the spokesman say (quote) "As Quakers hold that there is 'that of God in everyone'......" So although I may be against war those who support any god must ultimately be for a war at some point. Musing Militant
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4:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Jack Land says...

More wars are caused by religion than are caused by everything else put together.
More wars are caused by religion than are caused by everything else put together. Jack Land
  • Score: 14

4:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Sid Bonkers says...

Like many I support the ultimate goal of world peace but we have to be realistic. For example since the peaceful monastery on Lindisfarne was invaded by Viking hordes 1200 years ago, praying for peace has had little effect. I'm afraid the Vikings did not subscribe to the same peaceful philosophy.
Like many I support the ultimate goal of world peace but we have to be realistic. For example since the peaceful monastery on Lindisfarne was invaded by Viking hordes 1200 years ago, praying for peace has had little effect. I'm afraid the Vikings did not subscribe to the same peaceful philosophy. Sid Bonkers
  • Score: 13

5:18pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

I paraphrase a wonderful quote from "Quote unquote" on Radio 4 today.
"I dream of a country of peace and no hatred . It would be so easy to invade"
I paraphrase a wonderful quote from "Quote unquote" on Radio 4 today. "I dream of a country of peace and no hatred . It would be so easy to invade" Lord Palmerstone
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6:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

barrie says...

Luckily I re-read the article. I thought it said Caerleon, Newport Quavers society and my interest jumped ten fold. I'm more of a fan of wotsits myself but each to their own.
Luckily I re-read the article. I thought it said Caerleon, Newport Quavers society and my interest jumped ten fold. I'm more of a fan of wotsits myself but each to their own. barrie
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10:48am Tue 19 Aug 14

Good Job No Kids says...

"The Caerleon, Newport Quakers said they cannot support an organisation that "will be working towards future military planning and implementation as a way to solve the ills of the world" during next month's summit. "

Do they even know what Nato is about?

Quotes from Nato Website:

"NATO promotes democratic values and encourages consultation and cooperation on defence and security issues to build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict."

"NATO is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity needed to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty - NATO’s founding treaty - or under a UN mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organizations."

Just another bunch of religious nutters.
"The Caerleon, Newport Quakers said they cannot support an organisation that "will be working towards future military planning and implementation as a way to solve the ills of the world" during next month's summit. " Do they even know what Nato is about? Quotes from Nato Website: "NATO promotes democratic values and encourages consultation and cooperation on defence and security issues to build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict." "NATO is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity needed to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty - NATO’s founding treaty - or under a UN mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organizations." Just another bunch of religious nutters. Good Job No Kids
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9:43pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Independentvoter says...

Yes they're all quackers
Yes they're all quackers Independentvoter
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11:49am Thu 21 Aug 14

Timmon Wallis says...

As we all know, NATO was set up as a military alliance to defend Western Europe from the Soviet Union and it relies on the ultimate threat of blowing up the entire world with nuclear weapons as a means of 'defending' us. The Soviet Union no longer exists and the rest of the world wants to ban nuclear weapons because of their catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, and yet we go on pretending we need NATO and nuclear weapons to defend ourselves? What we need for the promotion of democratic values and the peaceful resolution of disputes is not an outdated military alliance but a serious commitment to diplomacy, international law and a functioning United Nations. That is our only defence against the security threats of the 21st century.
As we all know, NATO was set up as a military alliance to defend Western Europe from the Soviet Union and it relies on the ultimate threat of blowing up the entire world with nuclear weapons as a means of 'defending' us. The Soviet Union no longer exists and the rest of the world wants to ban nuclear weapons because of their catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, and yet we go on pretending we need NATO and nuclear weapons to defend ourselves? What we need for the promotion of democratic values and the peaceful resolution of disputes is not an outdated military alliance but a serious commitment to diplomacy, international law and a functioning United Nations. That is our only defence against the security threats of the 21st century. Timmon Wallis
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3:43pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

Timmon Wallis wrote:
As we all know, NATO was set up as a military alliance to defend Western Europe from the Soviet Union and it relies on the ultimate threat of blowing up the entire world with nuclear weapons as a means of 'defending' us. The Soviet Union no longer exists and the rest of the world wants to ban nuclear weapons because of their catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, and yet we go on pretending we need NATO and nuclear weapons to defend ourselves? What we need for the promotion of democratic values and the peaceful resolution of disputes is not an outdated military alliance but a serious commitment to diplomacy, international law and a functioning United Nations. That is our only defence against the security threats of the 21st century.
The Soviet Union no longer exists in the form it did in 1989 yet as you well know continues to exist in a mildly amended form. The "rest of the world " would very much like nuclear, ta very much.
The United nations is a mechanism, like the EU for employing the privileged and , like the EU serves no useful purpose. "Diplomacy and International law" seems to have made absolutely no difference anywhere except in the former Jugoslavia where rich nations have managed to buy a few defendants to parade at the Hague. All these things you, as a literate being, know very well but good luck to you sir in your devil's advocacy and please no one laugh.
[quote][p][bold]Timmon Wallis[/bold] wrote: As we all know, NATO was set up as a military alliance to defend Western Europe from the Soviet Union and it relies on the ultimate threat of blowing up the entire world with nuclear weapons as a means of 'defending' us. The Soviet Union no longer exists and the rest of the world wants to ban nuclear weapons because of their catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, and yet we go on pretending we need NATO and nuclear weapons to defend ourselves? What we need for the promotion of democratic values and the peaceful resolution of disputes is not an outdated military alliance but a serious commitment to diplomacy, international law and a functioning United Nations. That is our only defence against the security threats of the 21st century.[/p][/quote]The Soviet Union no longer exists in the form it did in 1989 yet as you well know continues to exist in a mildly amended form. The "rest of the world " would very much like nuclear, ta very much. The United nations is a mechanism, like the EU for employing the privileged and , like the EU serves no useful purpose. "Diplomacy and International law" seems to have made absolutely no difference anywhere except in the former Jugoslavia where rich nations have managed to buy a few defendants to parade at the Hague. All these things you, as a literate being, know very well but good luck to you sir in your devil's advocacy and please no one laugh. Lord Palmerstone
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