Torfaen councillor defiant as Facebook post branded 'anti-muslim'

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COMPLAINTS have been made after a Torfaen councillor used the term “muzzy” in a post on Facebook – but he denies the comment was an anti-Muslim slur.

Torfaen independent councillor Mike Harris, the chairman of safer communities overview and scrutiny, posted “Once a Muzzy!” on Facebook alongside a Daily Mail article on Hamas reportedly executing 11 Israeli informers.

This was quickly picked up by Hope Not Hate campaigners who posted it on their blog and Facebook page.

One person responded that Cllr Harris should step down, while another says that they made a complaint to Torfaen Council.

But Cllr Harris has defended his post saying “it is not racist”.

He denies that it was intended as a racist slur but that he was using the word in its proper meaning as set out in the dictionary, “Unable to think clearly; confused”.

While referring to the picture accompanying the article, which shows the executioners carrying guns, he said: “They are executing people so they must be confused and not able to think clearly or muzzy as it says in the dictionary.”

A council spokesman confirmed that the council has been contacted by members of the public regarding the post and have referred the public to the Public Service Ombudsman.

He explained that individual councillors are responsible for their postings on social media and are subject to a Code of Conduct, some aspects of which apply to a councillor even when he/she is not acting on council business.

He added: “Complaints that a councillor may have breached the Code should be made to the Ombudsman and the Ombudsman will decide whether or not to investigate.”

The Ombudsman confirmed that it has not received a complaint on the issue.

In 2012, The public services ombudsman’s office received complaints after comments made by Cllr Mike Harris provoked protest.

But it concluded it would not investigate the councillor, as there was no evidence of a breach of the code of conduct.

This was after Cllr Harris wrote on Facebook that he would rush an act through Parliament to “reclassify all immigrants as being illegal immigrants.”

Previously Mr Harris had also written, in relation to Cardiff’s Mardi Gras festival: “I am thinking of being radical and staging a march for heterosexual rights. Anyone care to join me?”

Cllr Harris denied that he is racist or homophobic.

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11:58am Thu 28 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 47

2:45pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Taffyrock says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
Cymru Am Beth,
Are you implying that Muslims are not BRITISH? The law apply s to everyone.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]Cymru Am Beth, Are you implying that Muslims are not BRITISH? The law apply s to everyone. Taffyrock
  • Score: -22

3:19pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Taffyrock wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
Cymru Am Beth,
Are you implying that Muslims are not BRITISH? The law apply s to everyone.
An indigenous British person then.
[quote][p][bold]Taffyrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]Cymru Am Beth, Are you implying that Muslims are not BRITISH? The law apply s to everyone.[/p][/quote]An indigenous British person then. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 23

4:52pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
It is a minefield isn't it. Shorten British to Brit(s) or even Turkish to Turk(s) and everyone is relaxed. Do something which can be interpreted with a bit of imagination by certain, professional offence taking communities as 'islamaphobic' (is that a word anyway?), and all is not good. One should recall the worldwide over-reaction to the Danish cartoon and the woman held in Sudan for calling a teddy bear Mohammed. One wonders if some groups will ever react rationally to anything.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]It is a minefield isn't it. Shorten British to Brit(s) or even Turkish to Turk(s) and everyone is relaxed. Do something which can be interpreted with a bit of imagination by certain, professional offence taking communities as 'islamaphobic' (is that a word anyway?), and all is not good. One should recall the worldwide over-reaction to the Danish cartoon and the woman held in Sudan for calling a teddy bear Mohammed. One wonders if some groups will ever react rationally to anything. Stevenboy
  • Score: 33

4:56pm Thu 28 Aug 14

taffygwent says...

Some people do nothing but nit pick and complain about anything and nothing. Get a life.
Some people do nothing but nit pick and complain about anything and nothing. Get a life. taffygwent
  • Score: 25

5:31pm Thu 28 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
Excuse my ignorance, (as though) but as I understand it, to be 'racist' does not one have to be castigating an ethnic individual or a group from a defined ethnic faction?
I retain the right to call Muslims anything I want, they are followers of a fictional divinity, and subscribe to a fractional and frictional political agenda specified in the very tenets and scriptures of their religion.

I do not criticise anyone of any ethnic background when having a pop at Muslims ,as amongst them are whites, blacks, yellows, browns, and for all I know, skyblue pinks with frilly borders.
So if you want to make a case, do NOT try the 'racist card, it does not appear in my deck of cards.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]Excuse my ignorance, (as though) but as I understand it, to be 'racist' does not one have to be castigating an ethnic individual or a group from a defined ethnic faction? I retain the right to call Muslims anything I want, they are followers of a fictional divinity, and subscribe to a fractional and frictional political agenda specified in the very tenets and scriptures of their religion. I do not criticise anyone of any ethnic background when having a pop at Muslims ,as amongst them are whites, blacks, yellows, browns, and for all I know, skyblue pinks with frilly borders. So if you want to make a case, do NOT try the 'racist card, it does not appear in my deck of cards. varteg1
  • Score: 27

6:20pm Thu 28 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Odd how people were more offended by a slang word than the kangaroo court-ordered executions.
Odd how people were more offended by a slang word than the kangaroo court-ordered executions. GogExile
  • Score: 31

6:32pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

GogExile wrote:
Odd how people were more offended by a slang word than the kangaroo court-ordered executions.
Yes. And I wonder if the organisers of the 'sea of Palestinian flag' numpties will show their indignation about that barbarity.
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: Odd how people were more offended by a slang word than the kangaroo court-ordered executions.[/p][/quote]Yes. And I wonder if the organisers of the 'sea of Palestinian flag' numpties will show their indignation about that barbarity. Stevenboy
  • Score: 22

8:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious. Jillie Bean
  • Score: -20

8:54pm Thu 28 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly
[quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly GogExile
  • Score: 14

10:19pm Thu 28 Aug 14

immortusmothermaximus says...

Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............
which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.
Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............ which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us. immortusmothermaximus
  • Score: -11

10:23pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Hewy33 says...

Maybe the South Wales Argus could conduct an interview with Cllr Haynes leader of the Independent party (??) and ask her to explain she her views on how Cllr Harris can continue in the role of Safer Communities considering his widely expressed views on disadvantaged groups in those communities.
Maybe the South Wales Argus could conduct an interview with Cllr Haynes leader of the Independent party (??) and ask her to explain she her views on how Cllr Harris can continue in the role of Safer Communities considering his widely expressed views on disadvantaged groups in those communities. Hewy33
  • Score: -3

10:35pm Thu 28 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

immortusmothermaximu
s
wrote:
Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............

which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.
Can't see anything amiss using the correct term Muslim

When working in Saudi Arabia, one of my team, an electrician, who happened to be from Pakistan, one day called me a Brit, quite innocently by the way, so I asked him what 'stan' meant in his language. He replied in effect it meant country or land.

So I asked him why did he feel offended when I called him a '****', the question did not register well as he went quite angry, stating it was derogatory.
I asked him why that was the case, as I felt no anger when being referred to as a Brit. End of discussion, he had no rational answer.
[quote][p][bold]immortusmothermaximu s[/bold] wrote: Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............ which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.[/p][/quote]Can't see anything amiss using the correct term Muslim When working in Saudi Arabia, one of my team, an electrician, who happened to be from Pakistan, one day called me a Brit, quite innocently by the way, so I asked him what 'stan' meant in his language. He replied in effect it meant country or land. So I asked him why did he feel offended when I called him a '****', the question did not register well as he went quite angry, stating it was derogatory. I asked him why that was the case, as I felt no anger when being referred to as a Brit. End of discussion, he had no rational answer. varteg1
  • Score: 17

10:37pm Thu 28 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

And to the Argus.....

From now on I demand you place asterisks instead of letters whenever the title Brit is used.

Sauce for the goose you must agree.
And to the Argus..... From now on I demand you place asterisks instead of letters whenever the title Brit is used. Sauce for the goose you must agree. varteg1
  • Score: 15

10:53pm Thu 28 Aug 14

webrits says...

This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context.
The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing....
This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context. The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing.... webrits
  • Score: 6

11:34pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

webrits wrote:
This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context.
The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing....
Only an idiot would believe Cllr Harris's sh*tty excuse!
[quote][p][bold]webrits[/bold] wrote: This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context. The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing....[/p][/quote]Only an idiot would believe Cllr Harris's sh*tty excuse! Jillie Bean
  • Score: -10

11:36pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

immortusmothermaximu
s
wrote:
Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............

which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.
No, you clearly haven't read the bile on EDL and extreme right sites then. They frequently use the word "M****", same as Harris.
[quote][p][bold]immortusmothermaximu s[/bold] wrote: Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............ which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.[/p][/quote]No, you clearly haven't read the bile on EDL and extreme right sites then. They frequently use the word "M****", same as Harris. Jillie Bean
  • Score: -9

11:36pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

Amusing how many accounts on here his blinkered sycophants have got!
Amusing how many accounts on here his blinkered sycophants have got! Jillie Bean
  • Score: -2

11:38pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

GogExile wrote:
Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly
Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog?
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly[/p][/quote]Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog? Jillie Bean
  • Score: -11

2:26am Fri 29 Aug 14

immortusmothermaximus says...

varteg1 wrote:
immortusmothermaximu

s
wrote:
Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............


which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.
Can't see anything amiss using the correct term Muslim

When working in Saudi Arabia, one of my team, an electrician, who happened to be from Pakistan, one day called me a Brit, quite innocently by the way, so I asked him what 'stan' meant in his language. He replied in effect it meant country or land.

So I asked him why did he feel offended when I called him a '****', the question did not register well as he went quite angry, stating it was derogatory.
I asked him why that was the case, as I felt no anger when being referred to as a Brit. End of discussion, he had no rational answer.
I agree the newsworthiness of this is very questionable as was the journalism. I listened to most of the interview (until i couldn't take no more) which made me more stunned the argus made a story out of it.

This racial issue has got way out of hand and its the media making stories out of crap like this that will keep it going. Varteg1 I can relate to similar situations and i know of 2 people that have been physically assaulted by persons from other continents, yet the Police have investigated the alleged "racial abuse" that took place after the physical assaults. Since when was any name calling more of a crime than punching kicking and biting someone? I also know someone who had a visit from local police whilst doing training 100s of miles away from home after he was reported to have said a word which was racially abusive aimed at his friends ex girlfriend (mixed race). What a huge effort and waste of everything for an alleged name call
I have no interest in EDL,I looked up Muzzy and Muzzer in the Urban Dictionary which had no listing for Muzzy.

I have no problem with anyones ethnic origin, appearance is not important. People that are offended by racial abuse (name calling) should really get used to it like others who have an obvious difference that can be used to hurt. We (most) have been called various names intended to hurt us in our lives, shorty, lanky, fat, ugly, stupid Taffy jock etc etc and some can hurt us, do we make a fuss....no. Next time I get a few lovely names yelled at me I will ring the Police who will probably ignore me...add the word black into the insults and they be on it along with media. Why are we walking on eggshells in the Uk worried about upsetting anyone from other origins or skin colour
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]immortusmothermaximu s[/bold] wrote: Mike would have used the term Muzzer not Muzzy if he wasn't dull, and i would like to think this issue points out the fact that hes a bit dim, and out of touch with the terms nowadays............ which will account for 100% of councillors and politician types that rule us.[/p][/quote]Can't see anything amiss using the correct term Muslim When working in Saudi Arabia, one of my team, an electrician, who happened to be from Pakistan, one day called me a Brit, quite innocently by the way, so I asked him what 'stan' meant in his language. He replied in effect it meant country or land. So I asked him why did he feel offended when I called him a '****', the question did not register well as he went quite angry, stating it was derogatory. I asked him why that was the case, as I felt no anger when being referred to as a Brit. End of discussion, he had no rational answer.[/p][/quote]I agree the newsworthiness of this is very questionable as was the journalism. I listened to most of the interview (until i couldn't take no more) which made me more stunned the argus made a story out of it. This racial issue has got way out of hand and its the media making stories out of crap like this that will keep it going. Varteg1 I can relate to similar situations and i know of 2 people that have been physically assaulted by persons from other continents, yet the Police have investigated the alleged "racial abuse" that took place after the physical assaults. Since when was any name calling more of a crime than punching kicking and biting someone? I also know someone who had a visit from local police whilst doing training 100s of miles away from home after he was reported to have said a word which was racially abusive aimed at his friends ex girlfriend (mixed race). What a huge effort and waste of everything for an alleged name call I have no interest in EDL,I looked up Muzzy and Muzzer in the Urban Dictionary which had no listing for Muzzy. I have no problem with anyones ethnic origin, appearance is not important. People that are offended by racial abuse (name calling) should really get used to it like others who have an obvious difference that can be used to hurt. We (most) have been called various names intended to hurt us in our lives, shorty, lanky, fat, ugly, stupid Taffy jock etc etc and some can hurt us, do we make a fuss....no. Next time I get a few lovely names yelled at me I will ring the Police who will probably ignore me...add the word black into the insults and they be on it along with media. Why are we walking on eggshells in the Uk worried about upsetting anyone from other origins or skin colour immortusmothermaximus
  • Score: 23

7:18am Fri 29 Aug 14

jimmysmith says...

Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
stop spouting bile you fool .this is a non story . as for you argus .you should be ashamed your obviously trying to exaggerate this non story into mass hysteria at the expense of this mans reputation .i wonder if you would run the same story if he had called me a taff ? .
[quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]stop spouting bile you fool .this is a non story . as for you argus .you should be ashamed your obviously trying to exaggerate this non story into mass hysteria at the expense of this mans reputation .i wonder if you would run the same story if he had called me a taff ? . jimmysmith
  • Score: 15

8:02am Fri 29 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

webrits wrote:
This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context.
The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing....
Due to the simple addition of the letter 'a' in the sentance it changes the meaning of what he said he meant to something completely different, or am I missing something here about how English works?!
[quote][p][bold]webrits[/bold] wrote: This Cr*p is not even newsworthy. Cllr Harris has explained his meaning of muzzy. It's a real word used in a reasonable context. The Argus needs to get a grip and start reporting on real issues like extremism instead of nitpicking and attempting to create stories from nothing....[/p][/quote]Due to the simple addition of the letter 'a' in the sentance it changes the meaning of what he said he meant to something completely different, or am I missing something here about how English works?! Evil Flanker
  • Score: 7

8:04am Fri 29 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

Edit :

“Once a Muzzy!”

Means something different to...

“Once Muzzy!”
Edit : “Once a Muzzy!” Means something different to... “Once Muzzy!” Evil Flanker
  • Score: 5

8:48am Fri 29 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is.

A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race.

Back to school you 32 ignoramuses
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is. A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race. Back to school you 32 ignoramuses varteg1
  • Score: 9

8:51am Fri 29 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

varteg1 wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is.

A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race.

Back to school you 32 ignoramuses
And your point is?
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is. A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race. Back to school you 32 ignoramuses[/p][/quote]And your point is? Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Fri 29 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent.

To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria..

We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's.

Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order....
Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent. To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria.. We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's. Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order.... welshmen
  • Score: 14

1:05pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Hewy33 says...

I agree this word can be used in different contexts but based on the content of the majority of Cllr Harris post's which are very anti Islam/Muslin Immigration, gay people, women and people on benefits, combined with the words "Once a" before it I think we can take an educated guess which context he was using this word!
It also proves his level of commitment to his views. As soon as he's challenged he can't even stand up for what he's said he deletes the posts and makes up some **** half arsed excuse about the original post. Politicians in action! And they wonder why people are not out voting!
I agree this word can be used in different contexts but based on the content of the majority of Cllr Harris post's which are very anti Islam/Muslin Immigration, gay people, women and people on benefits, combined with the words "Once a" before it I think we can take an educated guess which context he was using this word! It also proves his level of commitment to his views. As soon as he's challenged he can't even stand up for what he's said he deletes the posts and makes up some **** half arsed excuse about the original post. Politicians in action! And they wonder why people are not out voting! Hewy33
  • Score: -9

7:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Jillie Bean wrote:
GogExile wrote:
Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly
Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog?
No idea what 'TC' is so can't be a member. Agree that I used an old anti-white insult with 'honkey' but your glaring ommission of justifying 'kuffar' - which is contextually relevant in this case - indicates which way your blinkers face
[quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly[/p][/quote]Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog?[/p][/quote]No idea what 'TC' is so can't be a member. Agree that I used an old anti-white insult with 'honkey' but your glaring ommission of justifying 'kuffar' - which is contextually relevant in this case - indicates which way your blinkers face GogExile
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
varteg1 wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is.

A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race.

Back to school you 32 ignoramuses
And your point is?
As I inferred, but obviously it went right over your head,,,ignoramus,
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is. A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race. Back to school you 32 ignoramuses[/p][/quote]And your point is?[/p][/quote]As I inferred, but obviously it went right over your head,,,ignoramus, varteg1
  • Score: 2

10:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

jimmysmith wrote:
Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
stop spouting bile you fool .this is a non story . as for you argus .you should be ashamed your obviously trying to exaggerate this non story into mass hysteria at the expense of this mans reputation .i wonder if you would run the same story if he had called me a taff ? .
Taff in no way has the same connotations as m****. And "stop spouting bile you fool"? That sentence is a contradiction in terms!

Every single commentator supporting Mike Harris on this article is a member of their Facebook groups. In fact, I can guarantee at least half of them are the same person.
[quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]stop spouting bile you fool .this is a non story . as for you argus .you should be ashamed your obviously trying to exaggerate this non story into mass hysteria at the expense of this mans reputation .i wonder if you would run the same story if he had called me a taff ? .[/p][/quote]Taff in no way has the same connotations as m****. And "stop spouting bile you fool"? That sentence is a contradiction in terms! Every single commentator supporting Mike Harris on this article is a member of their Facebook groups. In fact, I can guarantee at least half of them are the same person. Jillie Bean
  • Score: -4

10:51pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

GogExile wrote:
Jillie Bean wrote:
GogExile wrote:
Jillie Bean wrote:
M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.
As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly
Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog?
No idea what 'TC' is so can't be a member. Agree that I used an old anti-white insult with 'honkey' but your glaring ommission of justifying 'kuffar' - which is contextually relevant in this case - indicates which way your blinkers face
I ommitted to mention "kuffar" simply because I have never heard that word let alone hearing it 'allowed to fly'. In fact, the only time I've encountered the word, "honky" is when one or two middle-aged men on TC claimed to have been called so. Strange really since it's a term used in the USA.
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jillie Bean[/bold] wrote: M**** is no different to calling someone a p*** or a n*****! It is highly derogatory and Mike's squirming attempt to get out of it is nothing short of hilarious.[/p][/quote]As indeed are honky and kuffar. But they're allowed to fly[/p][/quote]Ah, a member of TC I presume. Not the old "honkey" chestnut. What decade are you from Gog?[/p][/quote]No idea what 'TC' is so can't be a member. Agree that I used an old anti-white insult with 'honkey' but your glaring ommission of justifying 'kuffar' - which is contextually relevant in this case - indicates which way your blinkers face[/p][/quote]I ommitted to mention "kuffar" simply because I have never heard that word let alone hearing it 'allowed to fly'. In fact, the only time I've encountered the word, "honky" is when one or two middle-aged men on TC claimed to have been called so. Strange really since it's a term used in the USA. Jillie Bean
  • Score: -7

10:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jillie Bean says...

welshmen wrote:
Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent.

To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria..

We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's.

Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order....
You win the prize for the most bullsh!t comment on this article.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent. To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria.. We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's. Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order....[/p][/quote]You win the prize for the most bullsh!t comment on this article. Jillie Bean
  • Score: -4

11:48am Sat 30 Aug 14

welshmen says...

jilliebean: and you just won a trip to Iraq to be a jahddie Bride, enjoy....
jilliebean: and you just won a trip to Iraq to be a jahddie Bride, enjoy.... welshmen
  • Score: 5

11:30am Sun 31 Aug 14

DGee123 says...

I don't think the offensive bit is the fact that he used the word "Muzzy". The offensive bit is how he used a horrific act committed by Hamas to slur every other Muslim on the planet.

That, and the fact that he doesn't even have the balls to stand by his offensive and ridiculous views. Are we REALLY supposed to believe that his comment was to be read as "Once a confused and muddle-headed?" REALLY?! He must think we're all as stupid as he is... slimy, lying little *beep* that he is.
I don't think the offensive bit is the fact that he used the word "Muzzy". The offensive bit is how he used a horrific act committed by Hamas to slur every other Muslim on the planet. That, and the fact that he doesn't even have the balls to stand by his offensive and ridiculous views. Are we REALLY supposed to believe that his comment was to be read as "Once a confused and muddle-headed?" REALLY?! He must think we're all as stupid as he is... slimy, lying little *beep* that he is. DGee123
  • Score: -1

6:49pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

welshmen wrote:
Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent.

To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria..

We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's.

Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order....
Brilliant post and the truth.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Why can't we be Anti-Islam, I am, I want them all to leave our Country to a place of their choosing preferably to Iraq, the New Islamic Sharia Law state they all want, our Government can compensate the move with a years Foreign Aid Budget, I believe that would be the wisest way that Budget had ever been spent. To Muslim's who read these post's on here, what do your expect us to do? wait for your young to out breed us, you don't marry into our Culture, as many Muslims say Islam is first second and third in priority of their lives and culture not this Country that's looked after you from birth to finishing School, there's 570 Muslims in our Forces yet the media say that 1500 have left here to terrorise Iraq and Syria.. We've seen the worst, or a glimpse of what can happen here a few decade's into the future, Sweden and other EU Countries are feeling what Islam can do to it's way of life, myself and Millions of British born and bred love British people and our culture and put that First every time want it to stay that way without interference form your Religion, you don't mix, we like a drink you don't, we like dogs you don't, we like Music you don't, we like science's you don't, we like animals stunned before slaughtered you don't like the Jews, your fellow Islamic Brothers are now executing today hundreds of Syrian Soldiers, not withstanding the thousands already executed,this is on a daily basis. Your marches for Gazza are well Media-ised, yet nothing, nothing , not a news statement off any of your so called leaders, who I might add would be on every media outlet if anyone dare throw paint or break a window in one of your Mosque's. Your culture is nowhere near where it need's to be to live along side any Democratic Nation, your people in our Country have murdered British civilians by bombing, those who think Islam can live along side our culture for ever are deluded or have been asleep for quite a long time, as it is now, the British Cultured people wont put up with much more or your continuing moaning and want's, get your house in order, because this house has always been in order....[/p][/quote]Brilliant post and the truth. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 3

6:51pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

varteg1 wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
varteg1 wrote:
Cymru Am Beth wrote:
It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist.
You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way.
One rule for one and one rule for another.
31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is.

A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race.

Back to school you 32 ignoramuses
And your point is?
As I inferred, but obviously it went right over your head,,,ignoramus,
Thoroughly nasty individual.
And what have you got a degree in, Arrogance I suspect.
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: It is not a good idea to refer to Muslims in any way that can be interpreted as racist. You can call a British person what you like and this will never be treated in the same way. One rule for one and one rule for another.[/p][/quote]31 thumbs up....it seems there are at least 31... 32 if Beth is counted in,... that have not a inkling of the legal and dictionary definition of the word 'racist' is. A Muslim is a adherent of a religious faith, he/she is NOT a member of any race. Back to school you 32 ignoramuses[/p][/quote]And your point is?[/p][/quote]As I inferred, but obviously it went right over your head,,,ignoramus,[/p][/quote]Thoroughly nasty individual. And what have you got a degree in, Arrogance I suspect. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0
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