'No truth' in claim that police threatened Newport pub, The Pen and Wig, over Nato meetings

TWITTER ROW: The Pen and Wig pub in Newport

THREAT CLAIM: Leader of the Wales Green Party, Pippa Bartolotti

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GWENT Police have denied claims made by anti-Nato protestors that the force threatened to close down a Newport pub if it hosts any more of the campaigners’ meetings or events.

No Nato Newport, an umbrella protest group against next week’s Nato summit, posted on Twitter yesterday: “Following intimidation from @gwentpolice we are no longer able to hold events at @ThePenandWig”

A Gwent Police spokeswoman said there was no truth in the allegations and that the landlord of the Pen and Wig had confirmed that the pub had not been threatened with closure.

Pippa Bartolotti, leader of the Wales Green Party, however told the Argus today: “All I can say is one of the managers from the Pen and Wig rang me and told me the news yesterday that the police have been in contact with them and asked them not to hold any No Nato Newport meetings there and if they did they would surround the place and close it down.

“I repeated that back to check my understanding. I’m just repeating what I heard. I have tried to get in touch with the manager to confirm but I haven’t been able to talk to him.”

No Nato Newport has been holding meetings at the Stow Hill pub since February.

The Pen and Wig pub declined to comment when approached by the Argus today but yesterday said on Twitter: “No it [Gwent Police] hasn't, massive confusion I've tried to contact Pippa, nothing like that was ever said."

Gwent Police ‏also replied on twitter last night: “We didn't. We have no powers to do so, and wouldn't presume to tell someone how to run their business."

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12:53pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio
ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.
If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -25

1:17pm Thu 28 Aug 14

davidcp says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio

ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.
Why not openly record it, and give both sides a copy? Bit more open.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.[/p][/quote]Why not openly record it, and give both sides a copy? Bit more open. davidcp
  • Score: 37

1:18pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio

ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.
Doesn't need to be a secret recording. A recording (preferably video) is an excellent way to protect all parties. Have to say though - after Ms Bartolotti's clandestine booking of Pill Millennium Centre she is lacking credibility.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.[/p][/quote]Doesn't need to be a secret recording. A recording (preferably video) is an excellent way to protect all parties. Have to say though - after Ms Bartolotti's clandestine booking of Pill Millennium Centre she is lacking credibility. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 53

1:22pm Thu 28 Aug 14

lowandhardandinthecorner says...

I expect half of those at the meetings were undercover cops hoping to get the other half pregnant!
I expect half of those at the meetings were undercover cops hoping to get the other half pregnant! lowandhardandinthecorner
  • Score: 24

1:40pm Thu 28 Aug 14

grandmammamia says...

Thomas O'Malley wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio


ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.
Doesn't need to be a secret recording. A recording (preferably video) is an excellent way to protect all parties. Have to say though - after Ms Bartolotti's clandestine booking of Pill Millennium Centre she is lacking credibility.
My thoughts about Ms Bartolotti as well.......
[quote][p][bold]Thomas O'Malley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: If this accusation is true then it is very worrying. *As a future tip, in important meetings/conversatio ns with police and government officials it is often helpful to bring along secret recording devices so that you then have evidence that can be played back to clarify what was said.[/p][/quote]Doesn't need to be a secret recording. A recording (preferably video) is an excellent way to protect all parties. Have to say though - after Ms Bartolotti's clandestine booking of Pill Millennium Centre she is lacking credibility.[/p][/quote]My thoughts about Ms Bartolotti as well....... grandmammamia
  • Score: 29

1:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

myopinion1988 says...

Ms Bartolotti is just trying to cause trouble by the looks of it!
Ms Bartolotti is just trying to cause trouble by the looks of it! myopinion1988
  • Score: 51

1:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

lowandhardandintheco
rner
wrote:
I expect half of those at the meetings were undercover cops hoping to get the other half pregnant!
You had me with a classic spitting coffee at screen moment there!
[quote][p][bold]lowandhardandintheco rner[/bold] wrote: I expect half of those at the meetings were undercover cops hoping to get the other half pregnant![/p][/quote]You had me with a classic spitting coffee at screen moment there! DavidMclean
  • Score: 13

1:57pm Thu 28 Aug 14

smudge100 says...

it looks like a classic case of s**t stirring to me from NoNato
it looks like a classic case of s**t stirring to me from NoNato smudge100
  • Score: 40

2:05pm Thu 28 Aug 14

anigel says...

Some people will tell any amount of outrageous BS to get a chance to get in the paper
Some people will tell any amount of outrageous BS to get a chance to get in the paper anigel
  • Score: 37

3:00pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

It may be just posturing so let it go. The summit will go ahead for two days with hundreds of reporters reporting the police will be policing the military will be well marching up and down while everyone else will manage to work around it all and then bingo things will return to normal. Roll on post NATO summit. Wish France or Spain were hosting it, cheaper option.
It may be just posturing so let it go. The summit will go ahead for two days with hundreds of reporters reporting the police will be policing the military will be well marching up and down while everyone else will manage to work around it all and then bingo things will return to normal. Roll on post NATO summit. Wish France or Spain were hosting it, cheaper option. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 14

3:36pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Frankfurt says...

Anybody could have phoned Bartollotti and said they were from the Pen and Wig and told her a concocted story about the police. I can't imagine what the police would gain by issuing a threat like this.
Anybody could have phoned Bartollotti and said they were from the Pen and Wig and told her a concocted story about the police. I can't imagine what the police would gain by issuing a threat like this. Frankfurt
  • Score: 25

4:41pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Roger Elliot says...

Has anyone yet apologized for the inconvenience they are causing us in Newport and Cardiff? You know, with manners and such?
Has anyone yet apologized for the inconvenience they are causing us in Newport and Cardiff? You know, with manners and such? Roger Elliot
  • Score: -4

5:33pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Calon_Lan says...

Frankfurt wrote:
Anybody could have phoned Bartollotti and said they were from the Pen and Wig and told her a concocted story about the police. I can't imagine what the police would gain by issuing a threat like this.
That's why she can no longer get in touch with the manager, he wasn't from the Pen & Wig but from No Nato Newport.
[quote][p][bold]Frankfurt[/bold] wrote: Anybody could have phoned Bartollotti and said they were from the Pen and Wig and told her a concocted story about the police. I can't imagine what the police would gain by issuing a threat like this.[/p][/quote]That's why she can no longer get in touch with the manager, he wasn't from the Pen & Wig but from No Nato Newport. Calon_Lan
  • Score: 16

6:24pm Thu 28 Aug 14

newport15 says...

sounds like she is trying to wind the unwashed up and get the hump with the police, put a bit more water in the drink next time
sounds like she is trying to wind the unwashed up and get the hump with the police, put a bit more water in the drink next time newport15
  • Score: 13

7:54pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Get a life Pippa !
Get a life Pippa ! Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 22

8:40pm Thu 28 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Fair play, she's seen the NATO conference as an opportunity to raise her profile on a national and international stage. Job done Pippa. I had no idea who you were before. Now I see you as an underhand, conniving, condescending, arrogant, cowardly liar. Shame you'll never get elected because you'd fit right into Westminster.
Fair play, she's seen the NATO conference as an opportunity to raise her profile on a national and international stage. Job done Pippa. I had no idea who you were before. Now I see you as an underhand, conniving, condescending, arrogant, cowardly liar. Shame you'll never get elected because you'd fit right into Westminster. GogExile
  • Score: 23

10:59pm Thu 28 Aug 14

sallyw says...

Pill residents are still waiting for an apology form Ms Bartoletti for the peace camp fiasco - we are not holding our breath though.
Pill residents are still waiting for an apology form Ms Bartoletti for the peace camp fiasco - we are not holding our breath though. sallyw
  • Score: 19

10:28am Fri 29 Aug 14

Watery Bob says...

I HAD actually heard of her before all this NATO nonsense - once, she was on 'Come Dine With Me!'
I HAD actually heard of her before all this NATO nonsense - once, she was on 'Come Dine With Me!' Watery Bob
  • Score: 7

4:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

irisheyes says...

Watery Bob wrote:
I HAD actually heard of her before all this NATO nonsense - once, she was on 'Come Dine With Me!'
She didn't win then and she won't win now !!
[quote][p][bold]Watery Bob[/bold] wrote: I HAD actually heard of her before all this NATO nonsense - once, she was on 'Come Dine With Me!'[/p][/quote]She didn't win then and she won't win now !! irisheyes
  • Score: 5

11:58am Sat 30 Aug 14

Watery Bob says...

Right - I'm off to join the protest against the protesters!
Right - I'm off to join the protest against the protesters! Watery Bob
  • Score: -1
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