LiveAnti-Nato protesters march in Newport

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Summary

  • Hundreds of protesters march through Newport
  • Major roads in city affected
  • March ends with demonstration in Westgate Square

8:01pm

Masks were the thing to wear today:

7:58pm

More pics from today's march:

7:58pm

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For those of you who didn't catch him before - here's one of the Scottish protesters today. Wonder if he's voting 'Yes'?

4:46pm

And here's what all the smartest cops around Newport will be wearing for the next week or so:

4:45pm

Some more views of today's march:

3:30pm

One of the speakers at the demo in Westgate Square at the end of today's march:

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Cracking shot of the march from Ieuan Berry

 

South Wales Argus:

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A deserted George Street bridge awaits the marchers

South Wales Argus:

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More video of the march here:

2:02pm

The march is underway:

1:44pm

Interview with leader of the Wales Green Party Pippa Bartolotti

 

1:41pm

Keiligh Baker talks to a protester from Belgium:

1:36pm

Reminder from Newport bus that services are suspended during the march:

More info here:

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Here's Keiligh's interview with one of the protesters in Newport today:


1:10pm

The singing has started at the civic centre:

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Newport West MP Paul Flyn isn't impressed so far:

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Lots of protesters gathering in Newport:

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Nick Webb of Newport Civic Society has also had his work cut out:

12:47pm

Argus reporter Nathan Briant has also been busy spotting the numerous UK forces helping to police today's march and the Nato summit:

Which ones have you seen? Tweet a pic using #policeforcebingo and #natonewport

12:45pm

Some shops will be closed in Newport this afternoon:

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Here's Keiligh's video of some protesters in Newport city centre:

12:26pm

Jon the newsagent spotted this chopper fling over the city centre:

12:21pm

Don't forget to send us your pics of Nato sightings. Helicopters landing on Rodney Parade, blacked out limos swooshing past Cwmbran stadium - we want to see them! Use #natonewport

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Newport traders seem to be having a good day:

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Argus reporter Keiligh Baker has just filmed this interview with Gwent Police Chief Superintendent Alun Thomas on Nato policing:

12:01pm

We may see some of these today:

12:00pm

Last one:

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And some more:

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Argus reporter Keiligh Baker was at a police briefing on the Nato summit earlier today, and they were talking big nubers:

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Newport council say a number of rolling road closures will be put in place from 2pm. The route takes in these streets and areas which will be closed on a rolling basis:

Newport Crown Court car park (closed all day)

Clytha Park Road

Bridge Street

Queensway

Old Green Roundabout

Old Town Bridge

Clarence Place

Corporation Road

George Street Bridge

George Street

Mariners Green

Commercial Street

Westgate Square

More info here

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1:57pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa?
You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 2

2:03pm Sat 30 Aug 14

alritebutt says...

Typical one sided argument from the yogurt knitters and the press,what about getting the views of pro-nato supporters? How come its so one sided,judging by the likes on the previous stories the pro NATO supporters far outweigh the yogurt knitters.
Typical one sided argument from the yogurt knitters and the press,what about getting the views of pro-nato supporters? How come its so one sided,judging by the likes on the previous stories the pro NATO supporters far outweigh the yogurt knitters. alritebutt
  • Score: 24

2:18pm Sat 30 Aug 14

DGee123 says...

Most of the yoghurt knitters I know (and I've been known to crochet a little dairy product myself) are in favour of NATO in principal.
Most of the yoghurt knitters I know (and I've been known to crochet a little dairy product myself) are in favour of NATO in principal. DGee123
  • Score: 22

2:35pm Sat 30 Aug 14

alritebutt says...

Dgee123 very funny it made me chuckle,my apologies to the yoghurt knitting fraternity.
Dgee123 very funny it made me chuckle,my apologies to the yoghurt knitting fraternity. alritebutt
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Sat 30 Aug 14

davidcp says...

I'm a bit behind, Katie - LGBT I know, but Q? You've used it twice so I assume it's not a misprint.
I'm a bit behind, Katie - LGBT I know, but Q? You've used it twice so I assume it's not a misprint. davidcp
  • Score: -1

3:06pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

davidcp wrote:
I'm a bit behind, Katie - LGBT I know, but Q? You've used it twice so I assume it's not a misprint.
It's stands for 'Questioning', David - e.g. support for anyone who is questioning their sexuality or gender identity.

Btw...note to Putin apologists like Pippa: the protestors in the photos above flying the rainbow flag today would be arrested immediately in Russia because of Putin's law against "promoting homosexuality".
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: I'm a bit behind, Katie - LGBT I know, but Q? You've used it twice so I assume it's not a misprint.[/p][/quote]It's stands for 'Questioning', David - e.g. support for anyone who is questioning their sexuality or gender identity. Btw...note to Putin apologists like Pippa: the protestors in the photos above flying the rainbow flag today would be arrested immediately in Russia because of Putin's law against "promoting homosexuality". Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 10

4:39pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World.

Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.
So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World. Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest. Evil Flanker
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Sat 30 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites.... welshmen
  • Score: -2

5:11pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

@3.09pm Andy Davies:

I had to chuckle at the way the film of the marchers keeps on going back and forward in a loop. Makes me want to play it to the tune of 'The Lambeth Walk' in the background! lol:)
@3.09pm Andy Davies: I had to chuckle at the way the film of the marchers keeps on going back and forward in a loop. Makes me want to play it to the tune of 'The Lambeth Walk' in the background! lol:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 5

5:28pm Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

welshmen wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....[/p][/quote]I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is... EyeOnWales
  • Score: 12

5:50pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Apparently, one of the leaders of the protest - Boris Kagarlitsky (pictured making a speech today) - urged the demonstrators to support the Russian separatist forces in Ukraine and stated that he wants Britain to refuse to give any money or aid to Ukrainian president Peter Poroschenko when he visits next week. I also browsed the net a bit this afternoon and found sites promoting this protest featuring 'Before & After' maps of the "Soviet Union", blaming the loss of its control of central and eastern Europe on a NATO conspiracy(!)
Apparently, one of the leaders of the protest - Boris Kagarlitsky (pictured making a speech today) - urged the demonstrators to support the Russian separatist forces in Ukraine and stated that he wants Britain to refuse to give any money or aid to Ukrainian president Peter Poroschenko when he visits next week. I also browsed the net a bit this afternoon and found sites promoting this protest featuring 'Before & After' maps of the "Soviet Union", blaming the loss of its control of central and eastern Europe on a NATO conspiracy(!) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 12

5:50pm Sat 30 Aug 14

GogExile says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...
In this context, the 'commies' are the people waving hammer and sickle flags against NATO arms dealers whilst the mass slaughter of human beings is being achieved using AK47s. You know, the preferred weapon of every communist bloc and state since the 1970s.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....[/p][/quote]I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...[/p][/quote]In this context, the 'commies' are the people waving hammer and sickle flags against NATO arms dealers whilst the mass slaughter of human beings is being achieved using AK47s. You know, the preferred weapon of every communist bloc and state since the 1970s. GogExile
  • Score: 10

6:33pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Apparently, one of the leaders of the protest - Boris Kagarlitsky (pictured making a speech today) - urged the demonstrators to support the Russian separatist forces in Ukraine and stated that he wants Britain to refuse to give any money or aid to Ukrainian president Peter Poroschenko when he visits next week. I also browsed the net a bit this afternoon and found sites promoting this protest featuring 'Before & After' maps of the "Soviet Union", blaming the loss of its control of central and eastern Europe on a NATO conspiracy(!)
Instead of voting that post down why doesn't one of the dissenters refute it? We'd all love to know if it's true (no offence Katie) because if it is then it just goes to show we need NATO more than ever.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Apparently, one of the leaders of the protest - Boris Kagarlitsky (pictured making a speech today) - urged the demonstrators to support the Russian separatist forces in Ukraine and stated that he wants Britain to refuse to give any money or aid to Ukrainian president Peter Poroschenko when he visits next week. I also browsed the net a bit this afternoon and found sites promoting this protest featuring 'Before & After' maps of the "Soviet Union", blaming the loss of its control of central and eastern Europe on a NATO conspiracy(!)[/p][/quote]Instead of voting that post down why doesn't one of the dissenters refute it? We'd all love to know if it's true (no offence Katie) because if it is then it just goes to show we need NATO more than ever. Stevenboy
  • Score: 9

6:40pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...
Marxists maybe? (They are really popular everywhere in the world these days - not) According to Paul Flynn they were out today. The low turnout however speaks volumes.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....[/p][/quote]I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...[/p][/quote]Marxists maybe? (They are really popular everywhere in the world these days - not) According to Paul Flynn they were out today. The low turnout however speaks volumes. Stevenboy
  • Score: 6

6:40pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...
Marxists maybe? (They are really popular everywhere in the world these days - not) According to Paul Flynn they were out today. The low turnout however speaks volumes.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....[/p][/quote]I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...[/p][/quote]Marxists maybe? (They are really popular everywhere in the world these days - not) According to Paul Flynn they were out today. The low turnout however speaks volumes. Stevenboy
  • Score: 0

6:42pm Sat 30 Aug 14

33daverave says...

It would be nice if the Council could get the streets this clean every day, not just when the cameras are due.
It would be nice if the Council could get the streets this clean every day, not just when the cameras are due. 33daverave
  • Score: 8

7:01pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ROGERREDLIGHT says...

Sad to see such a huge Policing cost for such a bunch of wasters..........
Sad to see such a huge Policing cost for such a bunch of wasters.......... ROGERREDLIGHT
  • Score: 5

8:13pm Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

GogExile wrote:
EyeOnWales wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....
I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...
In this context, the 'commies' are the people waving hammer and sickle flags against NATO arms dealers whilst the mass slaughter of human beings is being achieved using AK47s. You know, the preferred weapon of every communist bloc and state since the 1970s.
So, using this rationale, and going on the widely distributed pictures of the protesters, there was the one communist in attendance then.
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Nothing but a bunch of Commies, plenty marching for the terrorist Government of Gaza Hamas, no mention of the tens of thousands in Iraq being slaughtered in the name of Allah, but because it's not Israel killing Muslims it's ok....hypocrites....[/p][/quote]I don't think you really have the faintest clue as to what a Communist is...[/p][/quote]In this context, the 'commies' are the people waving hammer and sickle flags against NATO arms dealers whilst the mass slaughter of human beings is being achieved using AK47s. You know, the preferred weapon of every communist bloc and state since the 1970s.[/p][/quote]So, using this rationale, and going on the widely distributed pictures of the protesters, there was the one communist in attendance then. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 1

8:14pm Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

ROGERREDLIGHT wrote:
Sad to see such a huge Policing cost for such a bunch of wasters..........
The Nato world leaders, indeed, quite right ;)
[quote][p][bold]ROGERREDLIGHT[/bold] wrote: Sad to see such a huge Policing cost for such a bunch of wasters..........[/p][/quote]The Nato world leaders, indeed, quite right ;) EyeOnWales
  • Score: 0

8:16pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Magor says...

Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.
Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre. Magor
  • Score: 2

8:36pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Ollie254 says...

Magor wrote:
Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.
It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late.
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.[/p][/quote]It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late. Ollie254
  • Score: 1

9:54pm Sat 30 Aug 14

displayed says...

So because the "summat bout nuthin" is coming to Newport, they decide (finally) there gonna resurface the patchwork rd around duffyrn.

Well its gotta look good for the self important, pompous visitors having their posh nosh at T. House!
So because the "summat bout nuthin" is coming to Newport, they decide (finally) there gonna resurface the patchwork rd around duffyrn. Well its gotta look good for the self important, pompous visitors having their posh nosh at T. House! displayed
  • Score: -2

10:12pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Roger rabbit one says...

Well said roger red light wastes is the right word for them
Well said roger red light wastes is the right word for them Roger rabbit one
  • Score: -2

10:27pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Gareth says...

displayed wrote:
So because the "summat bout nuthin" is coming to Newport, they decide (finally) there gonna resurface the patchwork rd around duffyrn.

Well its gotta look good for the self important, pompous visitors having their posh nosh at T. House!
Umm... the official route to Tred House is via Npt Road at The Celtic Springs traffic lights. They're bypassing Duffryn. Sorry butt.
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: So because the "summat bout nuthin" is coming to Newport, they decide (finally) there gonna resurface the patchwork rd around duffyrn. Well its gotta look good for the self important, pompous visitors having their posh nosh at T. House![/p][/quote]Umm... the official route to Tred House is via Npt Road at The Celtic Springs traffic lights. They're bypassing Duffryn. Sorry butt. Gareth
  • Score: 8

10:27pm Sat 30 Aug 14

alritebutt says...

How embarrassing! That was meant to be a universal march against NATO,less supporters than the county,hartridge rfc have a more vociferous and loyal following,pack ur tents up and go back home,what a waste of police time, why don't we hold the NATO summit every year and give the stewarding to Rodney parade,money for Newport! What are the protesters trying to achieve? Do they think a token few yoghurt knitters (apologies to the NATO loving knitters) will make a difference? Today was rubbish,really rubbish! Protesters were miles from the event and the leaders weren't even there,did it even make the national news? Why bother! To the boys in blue I salute you,well done and sorry you came to Newport for a really,really crap demonstration,,you would be better served doing your duties in your own areas.demonstrators get the message,look at the comments and thumbs up from all the NATO posts,u r not wanted,we tolerate you yes but agree with you NO,go home , don't demonstrate on our behalf,we don't want you. And do me a favour,clean up tredegar park on your way out.
How embarrassing! That was meant to be a universal march against NATO,less supporters than the county,hartridge rfc have a more vociferous and loyal following,pack ur tents up and go back home,what a waste of police time, why don't we hold the NATO summit every year and give the stewarding to Rodney parade,money for Newport! What are the protesters trying to achieve? Do they think a token few yoghurt knitters (apologies to the NATO loving knitters) will make a difference? Today was rubbish,really rubbish! Protesters were miles from the event and the leaders weren't even there,did it even make the national news? Why bother! To the boys in blue I salute you,well done and sorry you came to Newport for a really,really crap demonstration,,you would be better served doing your duties in your own areas.demonstrators get the message,look at the comments and thumbs up from all the NATO posts,u r not wanted,we tolerate you yes but agree with you NO,go home , don't demonstrate on our behalf,we don't want you. And do me a favour,clean up tredegar park on your way out. alritebutt
  • Score: 16

12:06am Sun 31 Aug 14

Frankfurt says...

alritebutt wrote:
How embarrassing! That was meant to be a universal march against NATO,less supporters than the county,hartridge rfc have a more vociferous and loyal following,pack ur tents up and go back home,what a waste of police time, why don't we hold the NATO summit every year and give the stewarding to Rodney parade,money for Newport! What are the protesters trying to achieve? Do they think a token few yoghurt knitters (apologies to the NATO loving knitters) will make a difference? Today was rubbish,really rubbish! Protesters were miles from the event and the leaders weren't even there,did it even make the national news? Why bother! To the boys in blue I salute you,well done and sorry you came to Newport for a really,really crap demonstration,,you would be better served doing your duties in your own areas.demonstrators get the message,look at the comments and thumbs up from all the NATO posts,u r not wanted,we tolerate you yes but agree with you NO,go home , don't demonstrate on our behalf,we don't want you. And do me a favour,clean up tredegar park on your way out.
Yep. Sometimes we have more away supporters at a Newport County match than the people that turned up today for this march. And I saw many ordinary people stuck at the bus station without buses because services were suspended while this rather small protest travelled through the town. I don't blame the police since they didn't know what to expect and had to provide for the worst scenario. And why do we have to go through this again on Thursday? isn't once enough?
[quote][p][bold]alritebutt[/bold] wrote: How embarrassing! That was meant to be a universal march against NATO,less supporters than the county,hartridge rfc have a more vociferous and loyal following,pack ur tents up and go back home,what a waste of police time, why don't we hold the NATO summit every year and give the stewarding to Rodney parade,money for Newport! What are the protesters trying to achieve? Do they think a token few yoghurt knitters (apologies to the NATO loving knitters) will make a difference? Today was rubbish,really rubbish! Protesters were miles from the event and the leaders weren't even there,did it even make the national news? Why bother! To the boys in blue I salute you,well done and sorry you came to Newport for a really,really crap demonstration,,you would be better served doing your duties in your own areas.demonstrators get the message,look at the comments and thumbs up from all the NATO posts,u r not wanted,we tolerate you yes but agree with you NO,go home , don't demonstrate on our behalf,we don't want you. And do me a favour,clean up tredegar park on your way out.[/p][/quote]Yep. Sometimes we have more away supporters at a Newport County match than the people that turned up today for this march. And I saw many ordinary people stuck at the bus station without buses because services were suspended while this rather small protest travelled through the town. I don't blame the police since they didn't know what to expect and had to provide for the worst scenario. And why do we have to go through this again on Thursday? isn't once enough? Frankfurt
  • Score: 12

5:35am Sun 31 Aug 14

john.hall1000 says...

The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.
The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from. john.hall1000
  • Score: 12

7:38am Sun 31 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

john.hall1000 wrote:
The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.
Two protesters...two of them...
[quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.[/p][/quote]Two protesters...two of them... EyeOnWales
  • Score: -2

8:59am Sun 31 Aug 14

john.hall1000 says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
john.hall1000 wrote:
The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.
Two protesters...two of them...
I must be seeing different photos than you because I seen people covering their mouths with black scarfs, unless they was cold!.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.[/p][/quote]Two protesters...two of them...[/p][/quote]I must be seeing different photos than you because I seen people covering their mouths with black scarfs, unless they was cold!. john.hall1000
  • Score: 3

9:42am Sun 31 Aug 14

Magor says...

Ollie254 wrote:
Magor wrote:
Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.
It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late.
Very true
[quote][p][bold]Ollie254[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.[/p][/quote]It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late.[/p][/quote]Very true Magor
  • Score: -2

10:55am Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Ollie254 wrote:
Magor wrote:
Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.
It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late.
Nothing to do with them tosh, and everything to do with the stuff coming from the Al Manar in Glynrhondda Street in the City in which, you being so ill-informed, I assume you don't live.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie254[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: Went to Cardiff today,first time I have seen armed police on patrol in the city centre.[/p][/quote]It won't be the last, sadly, thanks to the policies pursued by successive governments of late.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with them tosh, and everything to do with the stuff coming from the Al Manar in Glynrhondda Street in the City in which, you being so ill-informed, I assume you don't live. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

10:59am Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Evil Flanker wrote:
So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World.

Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.
The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you?
Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World. Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.[/p][/quote]The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you? Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 1

11:20am Sun 31 Aug 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

I've been inspired by one or two of these comments. This morning, as an experiment, I've been attempting to knit yoghurt. So far, It's not going very well but I'll keep trying.
I've been inspired by one or two of these comments. This morning, as an experiment, I've been attempting to knit yoghurt. So far, It's not going very well but I'll keep trying. ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 5

12:57pm Sun 31 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

john.hall1000 wrote:
EyeOnWales wrote:
john.hall1000 wrote:
The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.
Two protesters...two of them...
I must be seeing different photos than you because I seen people covering their mouths with black scarfs, unless they was cold!.
Well, how about starting with the very many pictures posted on this page, two, perhaps three people in masks, and several hundred without.
[quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.[/p][/quote]Two protesters...two of them...[/p][/quote]I must be seeing different photos than you because I seen people covering their mouths with black scarfs, unless they was cold!.[/p][/quote]Well, how about starting with the very many pictures posted on this page, two, perhaps three people in masks, and several hundred without. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Sun 31 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World.

Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.
The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you?
Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen.
Just to clarify, are you suggesting that those exercising a right to protest and express their opinions, would somehow remove the right of others to express their opinions, if they became the majority?

Yet all the while, you and other posters here seem to be offended at these same people using their democratic right to express their opinion.

So, you think that these protesters would compromise democracy if they 'win', so you don't want them to exercise their democratic rights, to, I don't know what, preserve democracy...?
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World. Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.[/p][/quote]The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you? Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, are you suggesting that those exercising a right to protest and express their opinions, would somehow remove the right of others to express their opinions, if they became the majority? Yet all the while, you and other posters here seem to be offended at these same people using their democratic right to express their opinion. So, you think that these protesters would compromise democracy if they 'win', so you don't want them to exercise their democratic rights, to, I don't know what, preserve democracy...? EyeOnWales
  • Score: 4

1:16pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties
That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom.
No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -3

1:29pm Sun 31 Aug 14

JanJenkins says...

What has NATO done that these people are actually protesting about.?
Palestine , NATO isn't involved in Palestine, or with the Israelis,.
Iraq, are fighting their own people, and in the North of the country NATO are are sending food, tents and other supplies to those fighting ISIS.
Syria are fighting their own. and Libia are fighting their own, other than those conflicts NATO countries are applying sanctions against Russia African Pirates seem to be contained. and NATO are sending supplies to those countries that have a problem with Embola. maybe the protesters would like that to stop.
So what is exactly is their problem? and why is it necessary to hide their faces under sacks, unless they intend to break the law. or are they claiming its a religious thing.
What has NATO done that these people are actually protesting about.? Palestine , NATO isn't involved in Palestine, or with the Israelis,. Iraq, are fighting their own people, and in the North of the country NATO are are sending food, tents and other supplies to those fighting ISIS. Syria are fighting their own. and Libia are fighting their own, other than those conflicts NATO countries are applying sanctions against Russia African Pirates seem to be contained. and NATO are sending supplies to those countries that have a problem with Embola. maybe the protesters would like that to stop. So what is exactly is their problem? and why is it necessary to hide their faces under sacks, unless they intend to break the law. or are they claiming its a religious thing. JanJenkins
  • Score: -1

1:40pm Sun 31 Aug 14

JanJenkins says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa?
Russia isn't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't have any control on what they do. If you get rid of NATO, Russia would just walk into all over Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet bloc countries.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa?[/p][/quote]Russia isn't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't have any control on what they do. If you get rid of NATO, Russia would just walk into all over Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet bloc countries. JanJenkins
  • Score: -2

1:47pm Sun 31 Aug 14

JanJenkins says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
john.hall1000 wrote:
The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.
Two protesters...two of them...
That's two that intend to cause trouble, Still it two to many, Maybe they can say its for religious reasons.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: The protesters that cover/hide their faces are trying to hide their identity, why?. What are they hiding from.[/p][/quote]Two protesters...two of them...[/p][/quote]That's two that intend to cause trouble, Still it two to many, Maybe they can say its for religious reasons. JanJenkins
  • Score: -2

1:53pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
Heinz Kiosk wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World.

Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.
The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you?
Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen.
Just to clarify, are you suggesting that those exercising a right to protest and express their opinions, would somehow remove the right of others to express their opinions, if they became the majority?

Yet all the while, you and other posters here seem to be offended at these same people using their democratic right to express their opinion.

So, you think that these protesters would compromise democracy if they 'win', so you don't want them to exercise their democratic rights, to, I don't know what, preserve democracy...?
To clarify, I can accept anyone expressing an opinion either for or against a protest, however what I find disturbing is the comments that contain so many derogatory terms used in describing the protestors and comments that suggest because they wear a mask or take time off work etc, etc, somehow removes their entitlement to express themselves in a public place.

I take offense to any derogatory term used purely for insult and expressing no actual opinion other than to insult those who are protesting. Expressing an opinion with no actual substance and just using derogatory terms to describe a group of people is provocation and nothing more.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: So many derogatory terms used, just goes to show the intelligence or lack of. Look back in history, I could think of some derogatory terms for people who seem to support removing peoples democratic right to protest or speak their mind for something important in the World. Watch the negative votes pile on, the thing is removing these democratic rights could be compared to nazi dictatorship or even other derogatory terms, but it seems the only people using such terms are the ones who are opposed to our democratic right to protest.[/p][/quote]The Stalinists participating in this gob-fest, are pillars of democracy sez you? Not if they got their way, I fancy. Fortunately that's not going to happen.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, are you suggesting that those exercising a right to protest and express their opinions, would somehow remove the right of others to express their opinions, if they became the majority? Yet all the while, you and other posters here seem to be offended at these same people using their democratic right to express their opinion. So, you think that these protesters would compromise democracy if they 'win', so you don't want them to exercise their democratic rights, to, I don't know what, preserve democracy...?[/p][/quote]To clarify, I can accept anyone expressing an opinion either for or against a protest, however what I find disturbing is the comments that contain so many derogatory terms used in describing the protestors and comments that suggest because they wear a mask or take time off work etc, etc, somehow removes their entitlement to express themselves in a public place. I take offense to any derogatory term used purely for insult and expressing no actual opinion other than to insult those who are protesting. Expressing an opinion with no actual substance and just using derogatory terms to describe a group of people is provocation and nothing more. Evil Flanker
  • Score: 4

4:48pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Dolieboy says...

I think they should have gone where they were needed. Maybe Syria and protested against IS.

Or against Boko Haram
I think they should have gone where they were needed. Maybe Syria and protested against IS. Or against Boko Haram Dolieboy
  • Score: 0

11:54pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Templar05 says...

What a bunch of Morons . NATO is used to protect countries from foreign invaders ie Russia . Then they complain, that Obama is not doing nothing . Either these people are pacifists or un -educated .

Maybe send them off to the Ukraine ,and they can tell Russia how they feel.LMAO
What a bunch of Morons . NATO is used to protect countries from foreign invaders ie Russia . Then they complain, that Obama is not doing nothing . Either these people are pacifists or un -educated . Maybe send them off to the Ukraine ,and they can tell Russia how they feel.LMAO Templar05
  • Score: 1

9:02am Mon 1 Sep 14

EyeOnWales says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties
That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom.
'Possible', 'conspiracy theory' and 'but if', when you actually have something of substance to say, rather than these whimsical possibilities, try again.
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom.[/p][/quote]'Possible', 'conspiracy theory' and 'but if', when you actually have something of substance to say, rather than these whimsical possibilities, try again. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 1

9:05am Mon 1 Sep 14

displayed says...

The Al-Manar Centre (sometimes referred to as 2 Glynrhondda Street) is a mosque in the Cathays district of Cardiff, Wales. Founded in 1992, it describes itself as being "one of Ahlus-Sunnah organisations". A widely circulated claim holds that a mosque was registered at this address in 1860, which would make the Al-Manar Centre the oldest mosque in the United Kingdom. This has, however, been shown to result from a transcription error in the Register of Religious Sites, making the Liverpool Muslim Institute, established in 1891, the first.

In 2014 the Al-Manar Centre became the subject of media attention after it emerged that Nasser Muthana and Reyaad Khan, two young men who appeared in a propaganda video for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and Muthana's brother Aseel, also believed to be fighting in Syria for the same organisation, had worshipped at the mosque. The centre denied that it had played any part in their radicalisation.
The Al-Manar Centre (sometimes referred to as 2 Glynrhondda Street) is a mosque in the Cathays district of Cardiff, Wales. Founded in 1992, it describes itself as being "one of [the] Ahlus-Sunnah organisations". A widely circulated claim holds that a mosque was registered at this address in 1860, which would make the Al-Manar Centre the oldest mosque in the United Kingdom. This has, however, been shown to result from a transcription error in the Register of Religious Sites, making the Liverpool Muslim Institute, established in 1891, the first. In 2014 the Al-Manar Centre became the subject of media attention after it emerged that Nasser Muthana and Reyaad Khan, two young men who appeared in a propaganda video for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and Muthana's brother Aseel, also believed to be fighting in Syria for the same organisation, had worshipped at the mosque. The centre denied that it had played any part in their radicalisation. displayed
  • Score: -1

9:09am Mon 1 Sep 14

EyeOnWales says...

JanJenkins wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa?
Russia isn't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't have any control on what they do. If you get rid of NATO, Russia would just walk into all over Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet bloc countries.
Again, there is some ignorance to the nature of the situation. Nato antagonised Russia by attempting to bring the Ukraine into the Nato family several years ago. However, now that Russia is on the warpath, where is Nato exactly? In typical Nato fashion, their interference has served to destabilise an area, and now the organisation is sitting and waiting to see how things pan out. The Ukrainian situation is one of the classic messes that Nato can be held directly to account over (and no, that does not give Russia a free pass either - both are to blame, and therefore BOTH should be held to account).

Oh, and if you had not noticed, not that I expect you to be basing any of these 'observations' on factual reality, Russian tanks are 'walking' into the Ukraine, so again, I'm not sure what point it is that you are trying to make.
[quote][p][bold]JanJenkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: You make a case for explaining Putin's 'twitchiness' over Ukraine, but what 'excuse' do you have for his long-standing and on-going criminalisation of, and discriminatory polices against LGBTQ people within Russia then, Pippa?[/p][/quote]Russia isn't a member of NATO, and NATO doesn't have any control on what they do. If you get rid of NATO, Russia would just walk into all over Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet bloc countries.[/p][/quote]Again, there is some ignorance to the nature of the situation. Nato antagonised Russia by attempting to bring the Ukraine into the Nato family several years ago. However, now that Russia is on the warpath, where is Nato exactly? In typical Nato fashion, their interference has served to destabilise an area, and now the organisation is sitting and waiting to see how things pan out. The Ukrainian situation is one of the classic messes that Nato can be held directly to account over (and no, that does not give Russia a free pass either - both are to blame, and therefore BOTH should be held to account). Oh, and if you had not noticed, not that I expect you to be basing any of these 'observations' on factual reality, Russian tanks are 'walking' into the Ukraine, so again, I'm not sure what point it is that you are trying to make. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 1

9:37am Mon 1 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
Heinz Kiosk wrote:
No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties
That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom.
'Possible', 'conspiracy theory' and 'but if', when you actually have something of substance to say, rather than these whimsical possibilities, try again.
In the 40's and 50's the Soviet Union's de-stabilisation policy may have worked itself out through traitors like Blunt, Philby Maclean, Burgess et al, not to overlook Alger Hiss, which is why the left so hated Nixon.
Later they turned more to "useful idiots" like Foot, Canon Collins "Monsignor" Bruce Kent, Arthur Scargill.
These who toddle through the streets of Newport are the last of that ilk. Does Putin find them still useful? Possibly, but more as a diversion I'd have thought.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: No, they're boring self- righteous people who are "exercising" nothing in particular but it is possible that behind them (lot of Socialist Worker banners for example) are others, and they are nasties That sounds like conspiracy theory and may be but if the Socialist Worker "mentality" ruled you can say goodbye to freedom.[/p][/quote]'Possible', 'conspiracy theory' and 'but if', when you actually have something of substance to say, rather than these whimsical possibilities, try again.[/p][/quote]In the 40's and 50's the Soviet Union's de-stabilisation policy may have worked itself out through traitors like Blunt, Philby Maclean, Burgess et al, not to overlook Alger Hiss, which is why the left so hated Nixon. Later they turned more to "useful idiots" like Foot, Canon Collins "Monsignor" Bruce Kent, Arthur Scargill. These who toddle through the streets of Newport are the last of that ilk. Does Putin find them still useful? Possibly, but more as a diversion I'd have thought. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -1

6:10pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Strider says...

I have to agree with 'Eyeonwales' all the Protestors I passed Saturday where peaceful and respected the city.. .Yes there was disruption to me but then the other 358 days a year I have to put with Newport foul mouthed hunched back drugged up chav scum..

Plenty of Chav's every day with face's covered..
Chav's riding there little bike's at people and continuously screaming the Fu word non stop, skinny druggy looking Men in there 40, 50's and even 60's pretending they had to walk as there muscles where so big(complete with can 10 % alcohol in hand).. I could hundreds more examples of Newports Chav generally being scum but my blood presure couldn't handle it

My view may change later in the week but so far they where all well behaved and weren't bothering anybody
I have to agree with 'Eyeonwales' all the Protestors I passed Saturday where peaceful and respected the city.. .Yes there was disruption to me but then the other 358 days a year I have to put with Newport foul mouthed hunched back drugged up chav scum.. Plenty of Chav's every day with face's covered.. Chav's riding there little bike's at people and continuously screaming the Fu word non stop, skinny druggy looking Men in there 40, 50's and even 60's pretending they had to walk as there muscles where so big(complete with can 10 % alcohol in hand).. I could hundreds more examples of Newports Chav generally being scum but my blood presure couldn't handle it My view may change later in the week but so far they where all well behaved and weren't bothering anybody Strider
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

I was there for peace, and that's exactly what transpired. Must be a disappointment to the whingers of Newport there was no trouble, but then, the police kept the local chavs at bay. The march today was pretty poor by usual standards, although a van load of khaki and balaclavared clowns were stopped and told to go back where they came from. That march too was peaceful, and created no problems. Police overkill and helicopters suggested a lot more than what occurred, 20 mins it was all over, point made,petition presented, this is how we protest, peacefully. I've seen 10 times more trouble in newport city centre of a weekend,and would welcome police protection there !
I was there for peace, and that's exactly what transpired. Must be a disappointment to the whingers of Newport there was no trouble, but then, the police kept the local chavs at bay. The march today was pretty poor by usual standards, although a van load of khaki and balaclavared clowns were stopped and told to go back where they came from. That march too was peaceful, and created no problems. Police overkill and helicopters suggested a lot more than what occurred, 20 mins it was all over, point made,petition presented, this is how we protest, peacefully. I've seen 10 times more trouble in newport city centre of a weekend,and would welcome police protection there ! Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

8:54pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Snowmonkey1 says...

I agree with everyone having a democratic right of protest it's what differentiates us from a totalitarian state, sometimes I even agree with their agendas; but is it just me or has this transient, migratory bunch of rag tag protesters that seem to turn up just about everywhere suddenly discovered the meaning of life? Some of them may have day jobs but I think that for many these marches are a social gathering. A bit like a scouts jamboree. I recall many of them replying when interviewed " I have' nt met anyone in Newport who is in favour of NATO or this summit". Well it just goes to show that they only listen to people who share their views
I agree with everyone having a democratic right of protest it's what differentiates us from a totalitarian state, sometimes I even agree with their agendas; but is it just me or has this transient, migratory bunch of rag tag protesters that seem to turn up just about everywhere suddenly discovered the meaning of life? Some of them may have day jobs but I think that for many these marches are a social gathering. A bit like a scouts jamboree. I recall many of them replying when interviewed " I have' nt met anyone in Newport who is in favour of NATO or this summit". Well it just goes to show that they only listen to people who share their views Snowmonkey1
  • Score: 0

7:49am Fri 5 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Mervyn James wrote:
I was there for peace, and that's exactly what transpired. Must be a disappointment to the whingers of Newport there was no trouble, but then, the police kept the local chavs at bay. The march today was pretty poor by usual standards, although a van load of khaki and balaclavared clowns were stopped and told to go back where they came from. That march too was peaceful, and created no problems. Police overkill and helicopters suggested a lot more than what occurred, 20 mins it was all over, point made,petition presented, this is how we protest, peacefully. I've seen 10 times more trouble in newport city centre of a weekend,and would welcome police protection there !
For heaven's sake! We're all in favour of peace. You're not unique. What earthly difference does poncing about with petitions make, except in the self satisfaction quotient?
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I was there for peace, and that's exactly what transpired. Must be a disappointment to the whingers of Newport there was no trouble, but then, the police kept the local chavs at bay. The march today was pretty poor by usual standards, although a van load of khaki and balaclavared clowns were stopped and told to go back where they came from. That march too was peaceful, and created no problems. Police overkill and helicopters suggested a lot more than what occurred, 20 mins it was all over, point made,petition presented, this is how we protest, peacefully. I've seen 10 times more trouble in newport city centre of a weekend,and would welcome police protection there ![/p][/quote]For heaven's sake! We're all in favour of peace. You're not unique. What earthly difference does poncing about with petitions make, except in the self satisfaction quotient? Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

10:04am Fri 5 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

Has to be better than your moans....
Has to be better than your moans.... Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Fair enough if that's the best you could find to do on a dry day
Fair enough if that's the best you could find to do on a dry day Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0
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