1,000 protest against Newport Nato summit

No to Nato protesters march in Newport

No to Nato protesters march in Newport

First published in News

AROUND 1,000 protesters marched through the streets of Newport yesterday ahead of next week's Nato summit.

A large crowd gathered outside Newport Crown Court at around midday before going on a march through the Welsh city.

As well as strong Welsh contingent, protesters came from as far as the USA, Belgium, France and Ireland.

Groups including Stop the War organised coaches with campaigners being driven in from London, Birmingham, Norwich and Newcastle.

Among those taking part in the march was seasoned CND veteran Bruce Kent.

He said: "Nato's continued expansion has brought about the current problems with Russia.

"If you put yourself in their shoes, you would be concerned at the growing military presence on your doorstep.

"We need to think about peaceful ways of resolving problems not ramping matters up further with the sabre rattling that Nato have been doing.

"We need to say no to Nato and no to nuclear weapons.

"The money being spent on Trident would far better served in health or education."

Also taking part was the Wales Green Party leader Pippa Bartolotti.

She said: "The Nato that so many people remember as a force for defence has turned into a force for aggression without anyone really being aware that this subtle change has happened over the last 10 to 15 years."

Plaid Cymru Assembly Member Bethan Jenkins, who was also present, said Wales' First Minister Carwyn Jones had continued to dodge the issue surrounding people's concerns over the summit.

She said: "He has repeatedly refused to speak about the situation regarding Nato saying it is a non-devolved matter - but then has been happy to speak at length about other non-devolved matters before.

"Much has been said about how Wales will benefit from the summit, but I honestly fail to see how it will - given the massive disruption it will cause as well as its cost.

"Wales is a peace loving nation and has a long history of pacifism."

The march came just ahead of a counter summit tomorrow as well as a peace camp set up in the city's Tredegar Park.

Newport Council said it had been given assurances the camp will be a "peaceful encampment" and would not interfere with the park's normal activities.

A spokesperson said: "Newport City Council is continuing to work with partner agencies to monitor the situation and minimise the impact of such a camp."

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10:43am Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

"The Nato that so many people remember as a force for defence has turned into a force for aggression without anyone really being aware that this subtle change has happened over the last 10 to 15 years."
So true, they've got to be stopped. Don't you remember when they invaded Czechoslovakia we were told there was no more territorial expansion only for Poland to follow last Tuesday to sate this monster's bloodthirsty appetite? This lady , another escapee from the "Way of the World" Column like myself, can still be relied upon for fine rhetoric of the most supreme daftness and as for Kent Bruce, who'd have believed Khrushchev's "Useful Idiotski #1" was still alive ?
"Wales is a peace loving nation and has a long history of pacifism"
Indeed many was the happy fraternal meal at McDonalds near Shrewsbury enjoyed by contingents from Gwynedd and the other Welsh principalities in the 13th century.
"The Nato that so many people remember as a force for defence has turned into a force for aggression without anyone really being aware that this subtle change has happened over the last 10 to 15 years." So true, they've got to be stopped. Don't you remember when they invaded Czechoslovakia we were told there was no more territorial expansion only for Poland to follow last Tuesday to sate this monster's bloodthirsty appetite? This lady , another escapee from the "Way of the World" Column like myself, can still be relied upon for fine rhetoric of the most supreme daftness and as for Kent Bruce, who'd have believed Khrushchev's "Useful Idiotski #1" was still alive ? "Wales is a peace loving nation and has a long history of pacifism" Indeed many was the happy fraternal meal at McDonalds near Shrewsbury enjoyed by contingents from Gwynedd and the other Welsh principalities in the 13th century. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -10

11:00am Sun 31 Aug 14

Melvyn The Milk says...

1000 protesters from 738,000,000 Europeans. Hmmm. Not much to worry about there then.
1000 protesters from 738,000,000 Europeans. Hmmm. Not much to worry about there then. Melvyn The Milk
  • Score: 11

11:54am Sun 31 Aug 14

Gareth says...

I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded!
I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded! Gareth
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Melvyn The Milk says...

Gareth wrote:
I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded!
Garreth, get my name right please.
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded![/p][/quote]Garreth, get my name right please. Melvyn The Milk
  • Score: -14

12:50pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues.

As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.
People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues. As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves. Mervyn James
  • Score: -4

1:05pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Mervyn James wrote:
People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues.

As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.
Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties
You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues. As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.[/p][/quote]Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -8

1:14pm Sun 31 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues.

As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.
Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties
You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers.
The demographic of the march was actually quite youth orientated. Even the most cursory glance at the coverage would enlighten you to this point, but as you have just descended into muck slinging, I get the impression that you care not for the cause of the protest, those who attended, and probably little else beyond your own isolation bubble. In addition, you have started mocking alzheimers, you are a tremendously classy contributor.
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues. As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.[/p][/quote]Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers.[/p][/quote]The demographic of the march was actually quite youth orientated. Even the most cursory glance at the coverage would enlighten you to this point, but as you have just descended into muck slinging, I get the impression that you care not for the cause of the protest, those who attended, and probably little else beyond your own isolation bubble. In addition, you have started mocking alzheimers, you are a tremendously classy contributor. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 13

1:44pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Gareth says...

Melvyn The Milk wrote:
Gareth wrote:
I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded!
Garreth, get my name right please.
I'm sorry for spelling your name incorrectly Melvyn. I am glad that you agree with my main point though.
[quote][p][bold]Melvyn The Milk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded![/p][/quote]Garreth, get my name right please.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry for spelling your name incorrectly Melvyn. I am glad that you agree with my main point though. Gareth
  • Score: 6

2:07pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Melvyn The Milk says...

Gareth wrote:
Melvyn The Milk wrote:
Gareth wrote:
I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded!
Garreth, get my name right please.
I'm sorry for spelling your name incorrectly Melvyn. I am glad that you agree with my main point though.
Did I say I agreed?
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melvyn The Milk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: I think that goes both ways Melvin. After all, only 20 or so people across the entire South Wales Argus footprint are complaining, but i doubt you'd infer that the protest is therefore universally applauded![/p][/quote]Garreth, get my name right please.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry for spelling your name incorrectly Melvyn. I am glad that you agree with my main point though.[/p][/quote]Did I say I agreed? Melvyn The Milk
  • Score: -10

2:40pm Sun 31 Aug 14

blackandamber says...

Funny how these people never protest in the countries of the real warmongers Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Islamic State, Russia, etc. I could go on.
Funny how these people never protest in the countries of the real warmongers Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Islamic State, Russia, etc. I could go on. blackandamber
  • Score: 11

4:32pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Pearly13 says...

RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.
RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief. Pearly13
  • Score: 2

4:41pm Sun 31 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Pearly13 wrote:
RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.
Er, no, this dates back to when Bush was trying to push through an expansion of, wait for it, NATO membership, to include the Ukraine, that riled Russia and led to the current conflict, but hey, don't let facts, or actual information stand in your way...
[quote][p][bold]Pearly13[/bold] wrote: RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.[/p][/quote]Er, no, this dates back to when Bush was trying to push through an expansion of, wait for it, NATO membership, to include the Ukraine, that riled Russia and led to the current conflict, but hey, don't let facts, or actual information stand in your way... EyeOnWales
  • Score: -4

5:15pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Freedomguy2014 says...

I am fed up with the tyranny

police brutality
our freedom rights being taken away
government lies that leads to war
tyranny and tyrants
and more

its time to stand up and expose them all and to fight for our freedom and rights if you want to stop wars and to stop the tyranny and lies
https://www.facebook
.com/FreedomResistan
ceOfficial
I am fed up with the tyranny police brutality our freedom rights being taken away government lies that leads to war tyranny and tyrants and more its time to stand up and expose them all and to fight for our freedom and rights if you want to stop wars and to stop the tyranny and lies https://www.facebook .com/FreedomResistan ceOfficial Freedomguy2014
  • Score: -10

5:18pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Freedomguy2014 says...

with all the man power

7 navy ships including the most high tech ship
10.000 police
Army personnel
1 submarine
11 miles of fencing

do you really think this will protect world leaders.?
they are not prepared if there was a attack to happen
there would be a state of emergency most probably

wales isnt a good place to have a nato summit
with all the man power 7 navy ships including the most high tech ship 10.000 police Army personnel 1 submarine 11 miles of fencing do you really think this will protect world leaders.? they are not prepared if there was a attack to happen there would be a state of emergency most probably wales isnt a good place to have a nato summit Freedomguy2014
  • Score: -11

6:03pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
Heinz Kiosk wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues.

As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.
Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties
You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers.
The demographic of the march was actually quite youth orientated. Even the most cursory glance at the coverage would enlighten you to this point, but as you have just descended into muck slinging, I get the impression that you care not for the cause of the protest, those who attended, and probably little else beyond your own isolation bubble. In addition, you have started mocking alzheimers, you are a tremendously classy contributor.
The age group covered everyone from a babe in Arms to old people with crutches talking part in the march. As regards to them suffering Alzheimer, it's too ridiculous and unacceptable a comment to offer any real response other than the person is some sort of ignorant troll who enjoys making mischief for others. The speakers who gave talks afterwards were drawn from all areas, and all age groups, people who unlike the troll who posts here experienced war first hand and at least has some knowledge of the issues. They have more education that the poster Heinz is every likely to get. We are all most surprised he managed to post a complete sentence, given he couldn't post his own name to his ramblings. Not a single campaigner I saw Saturday displayed ANY support for Hamas, ISIS, Russian incursions or Boko Harem.

Can you think of anything more ludicrous, than Cameron yesterday sabre-rattling at the Russians ? Obviously our gung-ho Heinz will be queuing up to do his bit...
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: People take part for many reasons, most want peace not war, I don't think that sentiment should be ridiculed in favour of the hawk approach. Any fool can start a war, it takes real skill to maintain a peace. There can be little doubt the USA's constant arming of Israel has led to the slaughter of 1,000s of innocent Palestinians, the march was for those, not for loonies like Hamas or ISIS. Writers here cannot see to separate the two things. There were claims protesters would cause mayhem on Newport's streets, it didn't happen. Police presence was sheer overkill,and using helicopters took us into the realms of farce, as did plain clothes police who might just as well walked about with flashing blue lights on their head ! I found the march peaceful, though-provoking, and participants determined to push for peaceful ways of solving issues. As someone who participated in the March, I found the only problem were the hordes of photographers and camera crews, who constantly pushed and elbowed us all out of the way to get coverage, the Bangladesh film crew were by far the worst, pushing and shoving a woman with a pram into the gutter, to get some shot or other. And one or two drunks near the railway station (Newport's finest!), yelling abuse at the marchers. Nothing but patience and peace from the marchers themselves.[/p][/quote]Merv, you were a crowd of inconsequential old crusties You can make as many flatulent statements about a country defending itself from morons firing rockets as you wish. Yes , it's irritating and nothing to do with "peace" but I suppose if it give you crusties a purpose it slows the progress of Alzheimers.[/p][/quote]The demographic of the march was actually quite youth orientated. Even the most cursory glance at the coverage would enlighten you to this point, but as you have just descended into muck slinging, I get the impression that you care not for the cause of the protest, those who attended, and probably little else beyond your own isolation bubble. In addition, you have started mocking alzheimers, you are a tremendously classy contributor.[/p][/quote]The age group covered everyone from a babe in Arms to old people with crutches talking part in the march. As regards to them suffering Alzheimer, it's too ridiculous and unacceptable a comment to offer any real response other than the person is some sort of ignorant troll who enjoys making mischief for others. The speakers who gave talks afterwards were drawn from all areas, and all age groups, people who unlike the troll who posts here experienced war first hand and at least has some knowledge of the issues. They have more education that the poster Heinz is every likely to get. We are all most surprised he managed to post a complete sentence, given he couldn't post his own name to his ramblings. Not a single campaigner I saw Saturday displayed ANY support for Hamas, ISIS, Russian incursions or Boko Harem. Can you think of anything more ludicrous, than Cameron yesterday sabre-rattling at the Russians ? Obviously our gung-ho Heinz will be queuing up to do his bit... Mervyn James
  • Score: -4

7:47pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Melvyn The Milk says...

Be glad one and all that you live in a country where you are able to demonstrate and protest. That sort of thing isn't encouraged beyond the Ukrainian border, especially if of the rainbow variety.
Be glad one and all that you live in a country where you are able to demonstrate and protest. That sort of thing isn't encouraged beyond the Ukrainian border, especially if of the rainbow variety. Melvyn The Milk
  • Score: -1

12:47am Mon 1 Sep 14

allassio says...

In this day and age, we need NATO and to stick together. All this idiotic protesting about this and that. I wonder if the benefits people are looking at the footage of this demonstration to see where the rest of the taxpayers money is going (as well as the security problems, of course). To hazard a guess, it is a distinct probability, that a great number of these 'protesters' will have to rush back home to sign on.
In this day and age, we need NATO and to stick together. All this idiotic protesting about this and that. I wonder if the benefits people are looking at the footage of this demonstration to see where the rest of the taxpayers money is going (as well as the security problems, of course). To hazard a guess, it is a distinct probability, that a great number of these 'protesters' will have to rush back home to sign on. allassio
  • Score: -2

9:47am Mon 1 Sep 14

Melvyn The Milk says...

allassio wrote:
In this day and age, we need NATO and to stick together. All this idiotic protesting about this and that. I wonder if the benefits people are looking at the footage of this demonstration to see where the rest of the taxpayers money is going (as well as the security problems, of course). To hazard a guess, it is a distinct probability, that a great number of these 'protesters' will have to rush back home to sign on.
Exactly my thoughts. How many of these marchers actually contribute in a constructive way to the running of society? No person in his right mind wants war and bloodshed. Both my grandfathers and father fought in the two world wars and I have heard enough to know of the evils of war. But like it or not, there are times when it is necessary. So we need to understand and appreciate those reasons and pay taxes to fund it if discussion fails. I am personally hugely grateful to those brave souls who gave their lives in order for my family to live theirs.
[quote][p][bold]allassio[/bold] wrote: In this day and age, we need NATO and to stick together. All this idiotic protesting about this and that. I wonder if the benefits people are looking at the footage of this demonstration to see where the rest of the taxpayers money is going (as well as the security problems, of course). To hazard a guess, it is a distinct probability, that a great number of these 'protesters' will have to rush back home to sign on.[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts. How many of these marchers actually contribute in a constructive way to the running of society? No person in his right mind wants war and bloodshed. Both my grandfathers and father fought in the two world wars and I have heard enough to know of the evils of war. But like it or not, there are times when it is necessary. So we need to understand and appreciate those reasons and pay taxes to fund it if discussion fails. I am personally hugely grateful to those brave souls who gave their lives in order for my family to live theirs. Melvyn The Milk
  • Score: -1

9:59am Mon 1 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Mervyn, when people descend to "I'm more educated than you" they feel they've lost the argument. You have some perfectly reasonable points. The problem is that then along comes Freedomguy2014 , whom I did not invent and shows the face of the fellow travellers. The EU has been at Ukraine to join up as well. Mischief making, what the clerks do best. Believe me , my child was in the Iraq War, I lost an uncle and had a very badly damaged father from WW2
My point is that everyone wants peace, not just the street shouters.
At this point it seems to me it'll be best secured by saying to Putin that Ukraine is in the Soviet Sphere but back off Poland and the Baltic. And in the Middle East and Africa? I've no more idea than you, the marchers and the majority who did something more fun.
Mervyn, when people descend to "I'm more educated than you" they feel they've lost the argument. You have some perfectly reasonable points. The problem is that then along comes Freedomguy2014 , whom I did not invent and shows the face of the fellow travellers. The EU has been at Ukraine to join up as well. Mischief making, what the clerks do best. Believe me , my child was in the Iraq War, I lost an uncle and had a very badly damaged father from WW2 My point is that everyone wants peace, not just the street shouters. At this point it seems to me it'll be best secured by saying to Putin that Ukraine is in the Soviet Sphere but back off Poland and the Baltic. And in the Middle East and Africa? I've no more idea than you, the marchers and the majority who did something more fun. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 1

10:27am Mon 1 Sep 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

so over the week end the " 600 " demonstrators have grown to over" 1000 " ?? was this independently verified by the police helicopter counting them , or is that " 600 " protesters and " 400 " media who were recording this " circus " for prosperity to try and account for their expenses claim for their weeks stay in our fair city . at the end of the day the citizens of newport neither asked or wanted this " circus " to decend on our peaceful and quiet city . i can only think the profits at mr matthews celtic manor resort are dipping and he needed another gimic to highlight his expensive white elephant resort on the outskirts of newport , cardiff , vale of usk depending on the clientel he is trying to attract . mr matthews has bled dry the welsh assembly / newport council and now the uk government to pay for access and now security to this resort which the normal tax payer can only dream of sampling .
so over the week end the " 600 " demonstrators have grown to over" 1000 " ?? was this independently verified by the police helicopter counting them , or is that " 600 " protesters and " 400 " media who were recording this " circus " for prosperity to try and account for their expenses claim for their weeks stay in our fair city . at the end of the day the citizens of newport neither asked or wanted this " circus " to decend on our peaceful and quiet city . i can only think the profits at mr matthews celtic manor resort are dipping and he needed another gimic to highlight his expensive white elephant resort on the outskirts of newport , cardiff , vale of usk depending on the clientel he is trying to attract . mr matthews has bled dry the welsh assembly / newport council and now the uk government to pay for access and now security to this resort which the normal tax payer can only dream of sampling . disgruntled taxpayer
  • Score: -2

10:31am Mon 1 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

Melvyn The Milk wrote:
Be glad one and all that you live in a country where you are able to demonstrate and protest. That sort of thing isn't encouraged beyond the Ukrainian border, especially if of the rainbow variety.
All the more reason why comments from people like Heinz need to be seen for what they are. If he wants to be seen as a idiot he is succeeding.
[quote][p][bold]Melvyn The Milk[/bold] wrote: Be glad one and all that you live in a country where you are able to demonstrate and protest. That sort of thing isn't encouraged beyond the Ukrainian border, especially if of the rainbow variety.[/p][/quote]All the more reason why comments from people like Heinz need to be seen for what they are. If he wants to be seen as a idiot he is succeeding. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

11:48am Mon 1 Sep 14

Pilbury says...

Pearly13 wrote:
RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.
You should listen to this call in which US Secretary of State, Nuland, says she doesn't 'give a f**k about the EU.' when talking about who to put in place in a new Ukrainian government... and this call was recorded BEFORE it all started. She's admitted that it's real too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/world-europe-2
6079957

Personally, I believe the EU heads of state are puppets for NATO expansionism and US hegemony. It will be extremely worrying if Ukraine is accepted into NATO, I only hope that France, Germany and others stand by their original thoughts on the matter.

You may also find it interesting to know that Hunter Biden, the son of the US Vice President has been on the Board of Ukraine's largest gas company since May, which has the rights to frack in Eastern Ukraine. Funny that.

http://www.theguardi
an.com/business/shor
tcuts/2014/may/14/hu
nter-biden-job-board
-ukraine-biggest-gas
-producer-burisma
[quote][p][bold]Pearly13[/bold] wrote: RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.[/p][/quote]You should listen to this call in which US Secretary of State, Nuland, says she doesn't 'give a f**k about the EU.' when talking about who to put in place in a new Ukrainian government... and this call was recorded BEFORE it all started. She's admitted that it's real too. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/world-europe-2 6079957 Personally, I believe the EU heads of state are puppets for NATO expansionism and US hegemony. It will be extremely worrying if Ukraine is accepted into NATO, I only hope that France, Germany and others stand by their original thoughts on the matter. You may also find it interesting to know that Hunter Biden, the son of the US Vice President has been on the Board of Ukraine's largest gas company since May, which has the rights to frack in Eastern Ukraine. Funny that. http://www.theguardi an.com/business/shor tcuts/2014/may/14/hu nter-biden-job-board -ukraine-biggest-gas -producer-burisma Pilbury
  • Score: 0

11:54am Mon 1 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Mervyn-"idiot". You're better than that. Having a rainy day and Monday moment?
Mervyn-"idiot". You're better than that. Having a rainy day and Monday moment? Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 1

12:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

i comare this summit to " nero fidddles while rome burns " substitude nero for nato and rome for ukraine and iraq/syria . when is obahama going to send troops / weapons to ukraine / iraq/syria or is it to close to the presidential elections ? putin /isis need to be stopped , stop talking about it and show some backbone !!!
i comare this summit to " nero fidddles while rome burns " substitude nero for nato and rome for ukraine and iraq/syria . when is obahama going to send troops / weapons to ukraine / iraq/syria or is it to close to the presidential elections ? putin /isis need to be stopped , stop talking about it and show some backbone !!! disgruntled taxpayer
  • Score: -1

12:47pm Mon 1 Sep 14

throwy1 says...

Pearly13 wrote:
RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.
Agree, Bruce Kent and Co remind me of a certain Neville Chamberlain
[quote][p][bold]Pearly13[/bold] wrote: RIght, when these idiots can protest similarly in Iran or Russia, then we should pay them some attention. There is about to be a European war and these people have covered their eyes and ears to the aggression all around them and protest against our only hope of preserving our way of life. NATO is flawed, true; but the real issue has been EU expansionism, regardless of the consequences. The problems in the Ukraine were caused by the EU peeing on Putins shoes in his own back yard. NATO May have to defend us from the results of their mischief.[/p][/quote]Agree, Bruce Kent and Co remind me of a certain Neville Chamberlain throwy1
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Mon 1 Sep 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

disgruntled taxpayer wrote:
i comare this summit to " nero fidddles while rome burns " substitude nero for nato and rome for ukraine and iraq/syria . when is obahama going to send troops / weapons to ukraine / iraq/syria or is it to close to the presidential elections ? putin /isis need to be stopped , stop talking about it and show some backbone !!!
oops my mistake that should be compare lol
[quote][p][bold]disgruntled taxpayer[/bold] wrote: i comare this summit to " nero fidddles while rome burns " substitude nero for nato and rome for ukraine and iraq/syria . when is obahama going to send troops / weapons to ukraine / iraq/syria or is it to close to the presidential elections ? putin /isis need to be stopped , stop talking about it and show some backbone !!![/p][/quote]oops my mistake that should be compare lol disgruntled taxpayer
  • Score: -1
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