So they weren't completely "banned", just not allowed to wear them in lessons.
Let's get the sensationalism out of the way first, Argus.
They were allowed during the fundraising.
And did these parents express their unhappiness to the school, or did they, as it seems, just go whingeing to the press? (Well done Argus for giving your usual column space for the usual whingers who don't seem to understand the meaning of "rules")
To take their kids out of school in protest, thus depriving them of their education, shows up these parents as irresponsible.

Paddy did something right for once!

as 1 of these parents u r talking about i will reply to you.the children were taken out of school after a long meeting between both myself and Kayleigh's mum. the head of their year tried in vain for the children to be able to wear the tshirts even 2 members of staff had also had tshirts done as for the other children being happy about it some not only the 3 in the picture were very upset about it.they were taken out of school because they were not allowed to wear the t shirts and as they wore them to school want were they meant to wear in lesson and they all had to pay £1 not to wear their uniform.none of the children in their year group or any other year group were asked by the school if these tshirts would upset them i know this because we asked .so if there is anything else you would like to know just ask

none of the children in their year group or any other year group were asked by the school if these tshirts would upset them i know this because we asked .so if there is anything else you would like to know just ask

Exactly, other pupils, some very emotional about this subject, weren't asked and so maybe they should have been before this was allowed to go ahead.

The whole idea was very sweet and great way to remember her, and to gain more awareness for this terrible condition. BUT, the whole thing should have been organized for after school or the weekend! try again kids, and parents, take more time organising it, and lets have a big fundraiser! i'll defo come! all the best Sass

sprice wrote:
as 1 of these parents u r talking about i will reply to you.the children were taken out of school after a long meeting between both myself and Kayleigh's mum. the head of their year tried in vain for the children to be able to wear the tshirts even 2 members of staff had also had tshirts done as for the other children being happy about it some not only the 3 in the picture were very upset about it.they were taken out of school because they were not allowed to wear the t shirts and as they wore them to school want were they meant to wear in lesson and they all had to pay £1 not to wear their uniform.none of the children in their year group or any other year group were asked by the school if these tshirts would upset them i know this because we asked .so if there is anything else you would like to know just ask

THe school bent over backwards on this issue and took step to prevent other pupils being upset.

You seem to want to just beave as you please I strongly support the school on the way they handls this. They did there best to accomadte every one but you seem to have choosen to escalet the issue out of all proportion.

Perhaps you should reflect on your behaviour because you are not setting a good example to your children. What you are basically telling them is that they can behavoir as they please and ignore the school rules.

I suspect that soun sensible to you but it does not to m nor most sensible people.

Im Sam Price,
And To Be Honest You Haven't Got A Clue About Anyting So Why You Saying 'Paddy Landers Done Something Right For Once' Erm, Seeing As Me And Rosie Hyde Were Best Mates, You Don't Have A Clue What Me And Some Of Rosies Closest Mates Are Going Through, You Read The Paper And Make Comments, But You Don't Know What We Have Been Through, Just Because Im A Teenager Dosen't Meen That Me And My Friends Don't Think About Things, Where The Same As You. We Only Had Tops Done Because We Wanted To Make Sure People Hadn't Forgotten Her, And We Got Told To Cover Up The Tops, The School Was Saying That It Would Affect Peoples Learning, But The Thing Tha Affected Peoples Learning Was That We Were Upset About Not Being Able To Wear Our Tops, We Wasn't Trying To Upset Anyone Or Make People Feel Sorry For Us, We Wanted to show Everyone How Much We Still Think Of Rosie And to Show Her Family Too. About 20 People Brought A Top, 2 Of Them Were Teachers, They Didn't Know They Couldn't Wear Them, The Teachers Wern't Even Alowed To Wear Them For The Workout, Thats Not Fair, We Only Found Out We Couldn't Wear Them The Day Before The Workout, My Sister Was Told To Take Her Top With Rosie Off And Because She Said No, She Was Told She Couldn't do The Workout By Our Head Of Year. When We Had The Meeting Before We Walked Out Of School, Jus As We Was Leaving, Mr jones Our Head Of Year Was Trying To Persuade Mrs Landers To Let Us Wear them, But She Said No. And Rosies Family Thought It Was A Nice Idea And Had No Problem With Us Wearing The Tops All Day, But The School Did. In Our Meeting, The one Of The Excuses Was That It Wasn't In Memory Of Rosie, Thats Why We Couldn't Wear The Tops, And As They Done The Workout, They Told All The Pupils That It Was in Memory Of Rosie, And they Told The Argus It Was And Rosies Mum, They Done It so We Would Look Bad. They Made A Big Fuss And Foned Up Rosies Mum, They Only Foned Her Mum To Tell Her Of All The Trouble It Caused, They Didn't Even Tell Her Mum They Was Doing The Workout, And By The Way This Is The Truth, But Beleive What You Want.

Just so you know, I'm not just somebody that reads the paper. I knew Rosie and her family, I even went to your primary school and secondary school Sam! (I don't know you but I recognise you from primary school)

BOB wrote:

sprice wrote: as 1 of these parents u r talking about i will reply to you.the children were taken out of school after a long meeting between both myself and Kayleigh's mum. the head of their year tried in vain for the children to be able to wear the tshirts even 2 members of staff had also had tshirts done as for the other children being happy about it some not only the 3 in the picture were very upset about it.they were taken out of school because they were not allowed to wear the t shirts and as they wore them to school want were they meant to wear in lesson and they all had to pay £1 not to wear their uniform.none of the children in their year group or any other year group were asked by the school if these tshirts would upset them i know this because we asked .so if there is anything else you would like to know just ask

THe school bent over backwards on this issue and took step to prevent other pupils being upset. You seem to want to just beave as you please I strongly support the school on the way they handls this. They did there best to accomadte every one but you seem to have choosen to escalet the issue out of all proportion. Perhaps you should reflect on your behaviour because you are not setting a good example to your children. What you are basically telling them is that they can behavoir as they please and ignore the school rules. I suspect that soun sensible to you but it does not to m nor most sensible people.

i must say you really dont no what you are talking about the children were brought out of school 1 because they wore the tshirts to school and had nothing else to wear so they couldnt go to lessons 2 they were very upset and emotional
if you could read there school reports or speak to their teachers you will find they do respect school rules and they know if they didnt they would be punished at home as well as school. the school kept changing the reasons why they shouldnt wear the tshirts this is not the first thing that has happened and we are not the type of parents who willy nilly go run to the argus this was something the children felt strongly about and as parents who have watch the children grieve in there own way which might not be your way we stood by them and supported them.who are you to say it is wrong for them they spoke with all rosies closest friends and they even spoke to he mum before they wore these tshirts so as for quoting: (I suspect that soun sensible to you but it does not to m nor most sensible people.)i think they did consider other people and as 15 year olds they acting more sensible then many adults and have ever right to grieve in there own way

Ps Why did you go to the Argus for ???

sprice wrote:
Im Sam Price, And To Be Honest You Haven't Got A Clue About Anyting So Why You Saying 'Paddy Landers Done Something Right For Once' Erm, Seeing As Me And Rosie Hyde Were Best Mates, You Don't Have A Clue What Me And Some Of Rosies Closest Mates Are Going Through, You Read The Paper And Make Comments, But You Don't Know What We Have Been Through, Just Because Im A Teenager Dosen't Meen That Me And My Friends Don't Think About Things, Where The Same As You. We Only Had Tops Done Because We Wanted To Make Sure People Hadn't Forgotten Her, And We Got Told To Cover Up The Tops, The School Was Saying That It Would Affect Peoples Learning, But The Thing Tha Affected Peoples Learning Was That We Were Upset About Not Being Able To Wear Our Tops, We Wasn't Trying To Upset Anyone Or Make People Feel Sorry For Us, We Wanted to show Everyone How Much We Still Think Of Rosie And to Show Her Family Too. About 20 People Brought A Top, 2 Of Them Were Teachers, They Didn't Know They Couldn't Wear Them, The Teachers Wern't Even Alowed To Wear Them For The Workout, Thats Not Fair, We Only Found Out We Couldn't Wear Them The Day Before The Workout, My Sister Was Told To Take Her Top With Rosie Off And Because She Said No, She Was Told She Couldn't do The Workout By Our Head Of Year. When We Had The Meeting Before We Walked Out Of School, Jus As We Was Leaving, Mr jones Our Head Of Year Was Trying To Persuade Mrs Landers To Let Us Wear them, But She Said No. And Rosies Family Thought It Was A Nice Idea And Had No Problem With Us Wearing The Tops All Day, But The School Did. In Our Meeting, The one Of The Excuses Was That It Wasn't In Memory Of Rosie, Thats Why We Couldn't Wear The Tops, And As They Done The Workout, They Told All The Pupils That It Was in Memory Of Rosie, And they Told The Argus It Was And Rosies Mum, They Done It so We Would Look Bad. They Made A Big Fuss And Foned Up Rosies Mum, They Only Foned Her Mum To Tell Her Of All The Trouble It Caused, They Didn't Even Tell Her Mum They Was Doing The Workout, And By The Way This Is The Truth, But Beleive What You Want.

As much as I agree with fundraisers, especially for good causes, the teachers were obviously correct on this one. The writer of the above quote should pay more attention in school and they will surely learn that you do not use a capital letter to start off "Every Single Word"!!!! Geez

And the grammar I shall not mention! Typical teenager!

Did the majority of the contributors to this article ever take English lessons, if so then they obviously learned very little?

oh, come on. You are having a go at a young women who is grieving for a friend about her use of grammar. Shame on you!

Leave the girls alone,they wanted to remember their friend in their own special way and why shouldn't they.It is a simple way for them to grieve and as we all know grieving for a loved one can take many different ways and i suppose the teachers should be grateful that the girls were in school and not truanting,some school uniforms are boring and regimental,if is was a non uniform day,it should have been acceptable after all the teachers do not say anything about cartoon shirts,designer or even those with often affending slogans.

Its Sam,
your all talking about my grammar, i only put a capital letter at the beggining of everyword, i didn't know i was doing something wrong?

There is a time and place for everything and this is not in a school classroom.

The schoold did its best to come up with a comprimise but the girls & their mother decidd to throw a childish tantrum.

There are other ways to rember them throwing tantrums is not a good way nor does it set a good example.

I think you need to think about your actions and the bad example you are setting.

Joolzzzzz wrote:
Leave the girls alone,they wanted to remember their friend in their own special way and why shouldn't they.It is a simple way for them to grieve and as we all know grieving for a loved one can take many different ways and i suppose the teachers should be grateful that the girls were in school and not truanting,some school uniforms are boring and regimental,if is was a non uniform day,it should have been acceptable after all the teachers do not say anything about cartoon shirts,designer or even those with often affending slogans.

Are you trying to say anything but school uniform should be acceptable on such non-uniform days?

The headmaster should forget about school uniforms, he should be concerned that his pupils cannot write a simple sentence without mistakes, it's disgusting to say the least.

Are you trying to say anything but school uniform should be acceptable on such non-uniform days? Yes,why not that is what a non unifrm day is all about---NO UNIFORM,all these girls wanted to do was remember their friend in their own unique way,what is so wrong about that.Everybody grieves in different ways,so why shouldn't they have done this for their friend,in my eyes the only people who should have been offended are the friends family.just thought---have you looked how some school children adapt their uniform,some of the sights are eye-opening.

OH MY GOD! HAVE YOU HEARD YOURSELVES? TWITS!

Sarasmiles, you are debiased taking the lords name in vain

Sam again!
my grammar hasn't got anything to do with this. People saying that the school has made a comprimise, how would you know the exact words Mrs Landers said? You wouldn't because you wasn't there. Our Head of Year was going to let us wear our tops, but Mrs Landers wouldn't let us. The person saying we was throwing a tantrum, we wasn't, and at the end of the day, why comment if you don't know half the stuff whats gone on? You take the schools side, just because we are teenagers, and our grammar isn't the best, it doesn't make any of you better than us. We want to greive for our friend (my best friend), and i'll do it however i want, not how everyone else thinks is right. Everyone has lost someone they love, and i bet you haven't had someone telling you the way you are greiving is wrong?. It dosen't make me or my friends feel any better people who might not of known Rosie coming on here and saying we are wrong, were all greiveing.

Sarasmiles23,none of us are twits,it is just our opinions on the matter,some of us are for it some of us are against it.But the main point of the article should be that it was rosies memory not the school heads.

Well, years ago, people used to go to school to learn and be educated and theyused to wear uniforms.
That appears to have all gone now.
A school is not a place to bring disputes by wearing clothing not sanctioned the school and for the parents to cause conflict by taking their children out because their "nearest and dearest" were not allowed to wear the wrong clothing.
"There is a time to learn, a time to remember, a time to grieve,a time to cry,and a time to obey and a time to listen".
Schools are educational establishments and should not be used by parents, teachers and especially children for political point scoring!

My daughters go to school every day to learn and be educated in the correct school uniform and have excellent school reports all the way through. The school have had my full backing on every school rule except this 1.which isnt a rule just 1 deputy head objecting and could tell us of no other persons objection. I have watch my daughters go from happy go lucky young ladies to young ladies who are really struggling to come to terms with the lost of a very special best friend.
They were taken out of school because they were not allowed to wear the t shirts and as they wore them to school what were they meant to wear in lessons all they could of wore was there bras which would be totally unacceptable. They all had to pay £1 not to wear their uniform for the day not just the workout.
This was not a political point scoring exercise it was young people who were very upset and grieving for a very special young lady. Who would be supporting them all the way if she was here. All you have is a snap shot of what happened and no nothing about how the children feel very let down by the school since there berevement .On more than just this occassion. For people to hit out at them and to comment about there grammar when you no nothing about these children is wrong do you no if they are dyslexic or have learning difficulties or any other problems that might make spelling and grammar dificult no you dont as you dont no these children. We all have a right to freedom of speech but there are ways of go about it with out slating people. everyone has voiced there thoughts on the subject but who has the right to say anyones way is more right than anyone elses.I just wonder if this was about an adult if some people on here would respond in the same way i just ask that you remember these are my daughters who have done nothing bad to anyone.WhO will now do something in rosies memory and will let her family decide what to do with the money raised.And maybe then you will realise how much this means to them i just hope none of you ever have to watch your children cry themselves to sleep worry and get scared of geting close to people incase they lose them.Death is a part of life just as upset and tears are a part of grief which we all have to go through at some point in life.its called life experances which is educational

Hi to all of you argus readers out their that have taken the time to comment on the article about my daughter Kayleigh Williams and her two best mates I totally back everything the twins mothers has said she has been spot on with what she has said I have also backed the school 100% up until now and my daughter also has excellent school reports right throughout, most weeks I get a letter sent home from the school saying that my daughter has had 5 or 6 worthy praises this week and she is to be congratulated on her excellent attitude and application. I would have commented a lot sooner but i was away at weekend and the argus web page was down last night. Some of these comments are very nasty as none of you know exactly what has gone on so I would like to take this opportunity to give you a detailed account of what happend .I hope you all have some time on your hands and are comfortably sat as this is going to take a while. Well here goes it all started on the Wednesday when I had a phone call from my daughter telling me that her head of year Mr Jones and Deputy head Paddy Landers told them that they were not allowed to wear their tops this upset my daughter deeply so I calmed her down and said I was ringing the school to find out what was going on. When I spoke with Mr jones he told me that they were not allowed to wear the tops to school I said but it is own clothes day and the top that she was wearing was her own, he said it was'nt so i read out to him what it said on the letter which was to wear their own suitable clothing(whats not suitable about what she was wearing I think it was very fitting for the occassion don't you? I still have this letter) I told him that I thought the school was being unreasonable about this matter if they did not want my daughter wearing her OWN top or her OWN SUITABLE CLOTHING then the school should have told all the children taking part in the event to wear their school P.E kit to school.(This would have avoided the whole situation).Instead all that it done was upset my daughter when all she wanted to do is greive for her mate. Mr jones then went on to say that it would upset children that have lost a close framily member .I than said well my daughter has recently lost someone very close to her, her granch a man that she looked upon as her father and he would be very proud of her as I am.I have not seen my daughter so focused and determined since losing her granch, raising money for such a good cause in memory of a dearly loved and missed friend all my daughter and her mates want to do is to express their feelings in an appropriate,suitable manor.He then said I would have to speak with Mrs Landers(whatever your alias may be)When I expressed my feelings o0n the matter and told her exactly what I said to Mr Jones and what he said to me she said more or less the same except for it would upset children that have lost a close loved one she just kept on saying it was inapropriate clothing and I asked why? she said take it from me it is to be honest with you she wasnt really interested in what I had to say she was to busy talking down to me.She then said if she wears the top to school she would be excluded from the workout knowing full well how much this event meant to her and her mates. She said they could get changed into them before thw workout I said I would sit down and talk to my daughter about it.But she will wear the top but she will cover that time up with another top she said she wasnt happy with that i told her my daughter always wears a vest top underneath her school top and that she would not remove her top until the workout I knew that my daughter would be upset having to do this but i knew she would because this fundraiser in memory of Rosie ment the world to her.My daughter then went into school the following day fully covered within 5 mins her and her mates were taken aside and asked why they wernt covered up things then started to get out of hand I had a phone call off my daughter telling me what had happened and that I had to go up the school for a meeting with Mr Jones and Mrs Landers.I was very angry at the fact they had homed in on my daughter due to the fact that she was fully covered but I was informed by my daughter that they could see a little whit around the neck line which made matters a little worse especially when I told Mrs Landers that she was wearing it underneath another top to me they were just looking to cause upset and arguments.When I got to the school my daughter had by then taken her top off and was refusing to cover it up and I backed my daughter 100% because as in my daughters own words mum they have had a go at me for no reason all for seeing a bit of white around the neckline so they had a go for no cause so iI may aswell keep it off and get punished for a worth while reason.I then asked Mrs Landers why have you done this to my daughter all you could see was a bit of the neckline I told you she was wearing it underneath another top and she said yes I know but I told you I was,nt happy with that.Being happy with that or not you had not right telling her off for seeing a bit of white on the neckline you have just made matters worse for youself by doing this.We were just going round in circles in their nothing different to what they had told me over the phone the day before and what my daughter had been telling me except for one thing one minute it was'nt in Rosies memory then it was.(what sort of message is this sending to all the children of the school especially those that look up to the piers and teachers?) Thats when I said to my daughter come on we are going as did the twins mother all these girls wanted to do was remember and honour their friends memory which will help the greiving process for them. Thats when I decided that I was going to the Argus as my daughter had basically been picked on by her teachers and their was nothing wrong with their tops the school just made a mountain out of a mole hill when like I said before all these girls wanted to do was remember their mate in their way.If wearing these tops would of upset anyone do you really think that a child that has lost two people that she was really close with kowing what the pain and upset is like? as a former pupil of St Joseph's r.c high school I hope that I have dotted all my I and crossed all my T's ortherwise I do apologise.Many thanks for reading especially those that wer'nt their and have commented unfairly and fairly.

red army wrote:
oh, come on. You are having a go at a young women who is grieving for a friend about her use of grammar. Shame on you!

I did mention that I agreed with the memorial bit but also agreed with the decision that it would affect the kids learning.

"For people to hit out at them and to comment about there grammar when you no nothing about these children is wrong do you no if they are dyslexic or have learning difficulties or any other problems that might make spelling and grammar dificult no you dont as you dont no these children."
From that we can see where she gets it from!

And I am so glad my mother didn't send me to St Josephs!! It seems no one can spell, use correct punctuation or grammar. The I's maybe dotted etc... but you don't spell weren't as wer'nt!!!

xclarex wrote:
And I am so glad my mother didn't send me to St Josephs!! It seems no one can spell, use correct punctuation or grammar. The I's maybe dotted etc... but you don't spell weren't as wer'nt!!!

so are we glad you didnt go to st joes as they teach more then just education they teach children how to respect others something you dont seem to have a clue about this is not about how someone spells or anything else you like to pick holes in .what are you saying you can see where she gets it from i think you are 1 of the people who only come on here to have a go at people you really need to have a look at yourself and realise you are not perfect these children have more love in there hearts then you ever will

That's nice isn't it! I say that I agree with the fundraising and stuff in memorial of their friend (I have lost loved ones close to my heart too - they are not the only ones on the planet!!) But I also agreed with whoever saying it would affect concentration levels in school!!! Read properly before accusing.

it was not my intention to upset you (xclarex) but you have made a few comments that have been hurtful this is your quotes
The writer of the above quote should pay more attention in school and they will surely learn that you do not use a capital letter to start off "Every Single Word"!!!! Geez)your other quote was
(And the grammar I shall not mention! Typical teenager!) the next quote was
(And I am so glad my mother didn't send me to St Josephs!! It seems no one can spell, use correct punctuation or grammar. The I's maybe dotted etc... but you don't spell weren't as wer'nt!!!)
this was just a personal attack on my daughter nothing to do with the real issue like i quoted earlier death is a part of life and we all have to deal with at some point in life and we all choose diffrent ways of dealing with it. i am really sorry for your loss just as im sorry for my daughters loss and any comments should be about the story covered by the argus not anything else. and what did you mean when you said
( From that we can see where she gets it from!) gets what from??
as for your quote( Read properly before accusing.)
i have read properly and i hope i have explain myself well enough to you.i just felt as did my daughter she was being attack for being young and that her spelling grammar and so on was not the issue

Tell me if I am wrong but one reason this thing could not go ahead as the children wanted was because the t-shirts would "distract" other children from their work. I was just making the point that maybe they needed to concentrate a bit more in school as you don't start every sentance with a capital letter!!! But I did state at the beginning that I thought that the t-shirts should have been allowed to be worn.

(xclarex) maybe we took it the wrong way im sorry if we did but it might be because of the way you put it across.you are right in saying it couldnt go ahead as the children liked because mrs landers and no other person stated it was inapropriate and would affect the chidrens learning and that it would upset other children.other children wanted the tshirts but were unable to get the money to buy them and also they didnt ask the children in rosies year group or any other year group about there feelings on the issue.which the girls did ask and had everyone they asked were ok with it but they couldnt ask everyone but the school could. sam who wrote the comment is always praised for her school work and how grown up and responsible she is for her age and concentrates in school. all we want to do is move forward and do something in rosies memory that raises money for the bristol childrens hosiptal that did so much for her and her faimly and it will all be done with the permission of her family unlike the school who have never involved them or asked them there wishes we are in the process of arrange things hopefully a couple of diffrent advents in the next few weeks