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8:53am Wednesday 2nd July 2008
AMBER Hartland has won many battles during her short life and now her devoted parents are preparing for the biggest fight of all - for her right to life.
Much to the distress of her parents, Nick and Lesley, a health trust is going to ask a court to decide on the six-year-old's future care.
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It could mean that brave Amber, currently in hospital with a severe chest infection, would not receive treatment in the future.
But her dad insisted she still has a good quality of life and both her parents ensure she enjoys "every second".
Now Argus readers are being asked to back a campaign which says decisions about Amber's care should be made by her mum and dad.
Cwmbran councillor Catherine Lewis has started a petition and readers are also being urged to post messages of support on our website or write to Cardiff and Vale NHS Trust in protest at their decision.
Click on the link below to add your name to our online petition.
di30, Gwent says...
10:11am Wed 2 Jul 08
Lesley Shuff, says...
12:32pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Rachael, newport says...
1:02pm Wed 2 Jul 08
oatley, says...
1:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Rachael wrote:Are you a parent yourself, none of us know what the parents are going through we can only imagine.
What am I about to say it going to sound really nasty! I do not mean any dis-respect for little Amber nor the parents. This is no way for a child to live like this. Please just let your child go in peace with dignity!! The doctor wont just say oh we cant be bothered to look after this patient lets shut off the machines. The doctors have realized that she has no life. I know you be will under terrible grief but let your daughter go
feelstro, newport says...
2:40pm Wed 2 Jul 08
DG, Newport says...
2:42pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Welshlady, cwmbran says...
2:56pm Wed 2 Jul 08
jenkswoz, pontypool says...
3:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08
gareth, Newport says...
3:29pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Welshlady wrote:The doctors are not taking her away. They are KEEPING her here.
Amber can communicate with her parents, Amber can enjoy life, she can recognise her surroundings. Noone has the right to take this away from her. Noone should be playing God.
Those people who support the Decision of the doctors, let me ask you one thing. Would you agree if it were YOUR child in question?
gareth, Newport says...
3:36pm Wed 2 Jul 08
...and readers are also being urged to post messages of support on our website
di30, Gwent says...
4:22pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Gemski, Cwmbran says...
4:30pm Wed 2 Jul 08
rachd27, cwmbran says...
4:45pm Wed 2 Jul 08
BOB, NEWPORT says...
6:36pm Wed 2 Jul 08
joed-h, newport says...
7:40pm Wed 2 Jul 08
haykey, Cwmbran says...
7:51pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Lily, Newport says...
7:54pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Lily, Newport says...
8:01pm Wed 2 Jul 08
haykey wrote:At the end you say that every life deserves to continue but we have to think about quality and not just existence. This sort of situation is not easy for the healthcare staff and they do not take the decisions lightly.
Disgusting!! Disgusting is the word that comes to mind when i read the story yesterday. As a mum who has LOST a severly disabled daughter, a child who was as you say 'unable to see or unaware of surroundings. A child who suffer's from epilepsy.' But a child who CAN feel their parent's presence, that can feel the love the world has for them. NO person should be allowed to decide the fate of any person's life. Every single day since loosing my Daughter (at the Heath hospital) i have questioned myself on whether i made the right decision, i was advised by ONE single consultant which choice i should make as to my Daughter's future. No other advice was offered, and now, reading this article about poor Amber and her family i find myself wondering, maybe the NHS do just see this person taking up their time, their money, their space. But that's what they are there for, to care for babies, children, adults. There are people in this world, being kept alive for decades on life suppost machines, where doctors & family don't even know if the person will ever wake up, and what permanent damage they will have if they do. Yet here, we have a child, a young beautiful child, who has been brave and fought all her life, and for some reason, somebody somewhere is going to sit in a room and decide whether they are going to provide any further medical help. Never should the decision be taken away from Amber's parent's, they braught her into this world and if anyone should be asked to make the heartbreaking decision of when Amber should leave, it should be her parent's. The NHS don't look after Amber, they haven't given up years of their life to give to this special child. They don't see her everyday, they don't see her happy times, they don't see the love and continuous support her family and friend's provide. Maybe the family of Amber would have decided this is the last time they wanted to see their precious Daughter in hospital, but to be TOLD by someone else their child cannot recieve further treatment, how exactly do you think they will cope in the future. Living every day on edge, scared, heartbroken, knowing the next time their ONLY child becomes ill, they will have to sit at home and watch her slip away. Knowing SOMEONE out there, not NATURE, not them, just SOMEONE has decided this is how it has to be. Ridiculous. Every life deserves the right to continue. I wish Amber and all her family the very best of luck in health and happiness. God bless you Amber x
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haykey, Cwmbran says...
8:21pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Lily wrote:Yes you do have to think about quality. This child probably has better quality of life than many children around the world, who don't suffer from any disabilitie's. She can see & she can hear. She communicates with her parent's and she doesn't suffer pain. Just because somebody can't move, or because they are more open to infection, does not mean they have poor quality of life. 5 times in 4 years this little girl has needed hospital treatment. Her parent's do the rest & as i said above inless you have actually had a child severly disabled you will never be able to understand. Like the doctor's you see black and white, what is written infront of you. Maybe a day at home with Amber would change your mind on her 'quality of life'.
haykey wrote: Disgusting!! Disgusting is the word that comes to mind when i read the story yesterday. As a mum who has LOST a severly disabled daughter, a child who was as you say 'unable to see or unaware of surroundings. A child who suffer's from epilepsy.' But a child who CAN feel their parent's presence, that can feel the love the world has for them. NO person should be allowed to decide the fate of any person's life. Every single day since loosing my Daughter (at the Heath hospital) i have questioned myself on whether i made the right decision, i was advised by ONE single consultant which choice i should make as to my Daughter's future. No other advice was offered, and now, reading this article about poor Amber and her family i find myself wondering, maybe the NHS do just see this person taking up their time, their money, their space. But that's what they are there for, to care for babies, children, adults. There are people in this world, being kept alive for decades on life suppost machines, where doctors & family don't even know if the person will ever wake up, and what permanent damage they will have if they do. Yet here, we have a child, a young beautiful child, who has been brave and fought all her life, and for some reason, somebody somewhere is going to sit in a room and decide whether they are going to provide any further medical help. Never should the decision be taken away from Amber's parent's, they braught her into this world and if anyone should be asked to make the heartbreaking decision of when Amber should leave, it should be her parent's. The NHS don't look after Amber, they haven't given up years of their life to give to this special child. They don't see her everyday, they don't see her happy times, they don't see the love and continuous support her family and friend's provide. Maybe the family of Amber would have decided this is the last time they wanted to see their precious Daughter in hospital, but to be TOLD by someone else their child cannot recieve further treatment, how exactly do you think they will cope in the future. Living every day on edge, scared, heartbroken, knowing the next time their ONLY child becomes ill, they will have to sit at home and watch her slip away. Knowing SOMEONE out there, not NATURE, not them, just SOMEONE has decided this is how it has to be. Ridiculous. Every life deserves the right to continue. I wish Amber and all her family the very best of luck in health and happiness. God bless you Amber xAt the end you say that every life deserves to continue but we have to think about quality and not just existence. This sort of situation is not easy for the healthcare staff and they do not take the decisions lightly.quote
Lynn, Dorset says...
9:05pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Lily, Newport says...
9:17pm Wed 2 Jul 08
welshy23, cwmbran says...
9:29pm Wed 2 Jul 08
sue, newport says...
9:38pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Lily, Newport says...
10:01pm Wed 2 Jul 08
welshy23 wrote:Since this is in the media however, you have to expect that people will express their opinions. No-one can blame this couple for wanting to highlight their plight and gather support from willing quarters but the fact is that they need to work in partnership with healthcare staff and decisions will usually be shared. Where they cannot agree, this course of events is not unusual.
Most of these comments make me sick, no 1 has the right to pass judgement on whether she should receive treatment or not other than Lesley and Nick. I know this family and i know that if Lesley and Nick didnt think Amber would benefit from treatment then they both wouldnt fight so hard for it, Im just hoping Amber gets the treatment she deserves. Keep fighting Lesley and Nick im behind you 100% xx
Olivia, Newport says...
10:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kerry from gwent, gwent says...
11:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kerry from gwent, gwent says...
11:52pm Wed 2 Jul 08
suzzy, nantyglo says...
8:08am Thu 3 Jul 08
suzzy, nantyglo says...
8:10am Thu 3 Jul 08
papercutz, cwmbran says...
11:06am Thu 3 Jul 08
sarasmiles23, newport says...
11:39am Thu 3 Jul 08
welshy23 wrote:nobody IS allowed to pass jugements! BUT we are allowed our opinion!
Most of these comments make me sick, no 1 has the right to pass judgement on whether she should receive treatment or not other than Lesley and Nick. I know this family and i know that if Lesley and Nick didnt think Amber would benefit from treatment then they both wouldnt fight so hard for it, Im just hoping Amber gets the treatment she deserves. Keep fighting Lesley and Nick im behind you 100% xx
hel, gwent says...
12:41pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Amiee, Cwmbran says...
1:34pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Mary Peck, U.S.A. says...
7:28pm Thu 3 Jul 08
suzy, newport says...
10:25pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Torfaen resident, Cwmbran says...
12:06pm Fri 4 Jul 08
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Mother_in_newport, newport says...
9:31am Wed 2 Jul 08
mpaign for this...As if her struggle hasn't been exhausting enough for your family,now you have this to deal with...My heart goes out to all 3 of you. xxxxxxxxxx