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Historic Newport pub hits the buffers

10:25am Monday 12th January 2009

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WITH its jazz band in full swing and a procession of characters in and out of its doors, the Engineers' Arms was a place of gleeful and boozy eccentricity.

Mike Buckingham remembers when the pub was in its heyday, and Newport didn't take itself quite so seriously.

WHEN the apes leave Gibraltar the fortress will fall.

Ravens fleeing the Tower of London will portend the end of Britain as a major power, both of which seemed more likely propositions than the closure of the Engineers' Arms in Baneswell, Newport.

But now, let the island fortress be apeless and the Tower unravened.

The Engineers has closed its doors leaving two generations of ageing hippies and bohemians, jazz lovers and a Friday night conclave of bibulous solicitors homeless.

The pub which in its latter years was to become an island of defiance in a city centre increasingly given over to soul-less drinking hangars opened 160 years ago to serve the navvies excavating the Great Western line tunnel from which the nearby Tunnel Terrace takes its name.

For most of these years the pub was the haunt of railwaymen long before health and safety and any notion that one should always be sober whilst at work.

Footplatemen and drivers slaked their thirsts their in the days when being sober at work was not mandatory. It was only with the demise of steam that the railwaymen ceded their place at the bar to a motley crew of college lecturers, lawyers and estate agents, wannabe poets and novelists, journalists and painters.

Some of the painters earned their money doing up local houses but at the creative end of the market were such as John Selway, now an internationally-known name, Phil Muirden, also a scion of Newport Art College in its glory days and Brian Gardiner, a landscapist who streetscapes of Newport and Pontypool have won critical attention.

Under the management of Roger Boswell and his wife, Diana the 'Engines' reached the peak of its reputation as a slighty racy venue where one could go to listen to the Acme Jazz Band, drink excellent pints of HB and of course, smoke.

With Bob Gribble blasting away on the trombone and the rest of the Acme in full strum and blast, so dense was the crowd that those drinking in the small bar facing Albert Terrace and East Steet and desirous of visiting the gents' had to walk outside and around to the East street entrance and duck back into the back bar where the loos were situated.

The front bar or men's bar as it was usually called (although ladies of some fortitude were known to use it) suffered its worst disaster 15 years ago when fire broke out, severely damaging the century-old wood panelling and smoke-damaging stock on the optics and shelves.

'Bozzy' as Roger Boswell was known promised that fire-damaged stock would be sold off at a preferential rate to regular customers but those who shuffled through the ashes and picked their way through the smouldering timbers did so in vain; the cut -rate drinks never materialised.

The damage was repaired and life at the Engines returned to something like normal tempo for a few years until the present mood of puritanism began to take hold.

The virtual disappearance of the liquid lunch-time and after-work refreshment undoubtedly played a part in the pub's decline, in common with so many others.

The enormous mirror in the middle bar, painted with a jazz theme by Phil Muirden eventually disappeared, as did the enormous model of a Mississippi steamboat made by Jan Preece, local historian and erstwhile curator of Pill Heritage Centre who held court in the men's bar.

The Engineers has closed because innocent joy has all but been eradicated from 21st century Newport.

There was a time when academics went for a drink with their students and reporters covering trials at the Crown Court or magistrates' court telephoned reports from the payphone in the corner of the men's bar.

Newport has transformed itself from a town into a city, with all the bridges and office buildings, proposed campus developments and luxury flats that such a title merits but an indefinable sense of fun has gone.

We are bigger and more prosperous than we were when the jazz boomed out and the ale flowed.

And with the closure of the 'Engines' sadder, too.


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Howie', Newport says...
11:50am Mon 12 Jan 09

I have many happy memory's of the 'Engines' over the last 30+ years from watching the Acme band during the week and the various bands on a Friday/Saturday night to talking to the many characters who regularly propped up the bar. It left a big hole in our Friday night out last week. The landlord did a brilliant job and ran a great pub. I wish him his wife and all the staff good luck for the future. Newport is a poorer place today.

Salem, Blackwood says...
12:01pm Mon 12 Jan 09

Its a shame that Real Pubs Like the Engineers end up like this..the licence trade has gone like the High Street Bland and Cloned..the Jazz nights there will be missed

bassman, newport says...
12:04pm Mon 12 Jan 09

My band has played this pub several times and I have spent many happy nights there watching other bands on Fridays and Saturdays.
This was "the" place to watch bands in Newport and if you had played in there, other venues and musicians took notice.

Dave was a top landlord, looked after his customers and knew everyone.

There arent many pubs left in Newport like this and I hope that the owners who took the decision to hike the rent up realise their mistake and get it reopened.

christina 1, newport says...
3:06pm Mon 12 Jan 09

Pity the town can't support a place so full of character as the Engineers instead of all these chain pubs, let's hope it can be saved !

annieinspain, Spain says...
4:38pm Mon 12 Jan 09

So sad to read this news. I have many happy memories of 'The Engines'- I learned to drink there (never looked back..), joining my friends from the Dolman Theatre who propped up the bar every night back in the late 60's. early 70's. This has brought back so many memories - so sorry I couldn't be there for a last drink!

FLIT, NEWPORT says...
6:14pm Mon 12 Jan 09

Iam in no dought the smoking ban has a lot to do with the closing,i no longer go out since the ban, the few times i have its easier to get served and have a choice of tables to sit at, but getting dressed up and spending a good amount of hard earned money to stand in the street is not my idea of a social life.Also the fun has died, your not suppose to laugh or enjoy yourself any more, people are more aggressive, bouncers stand around on doorways intimidating every one that pass through the doors thinking they own the place. its just not worth spending money on in these times.more pubs will close, newport is lost.its just not a nice place any more.

fitzyy1, Newport says...
9:12pm Mon 12 Jan 09

my oil painting,"Spectre of Buddy holly".
hung in the Engineers since the rock and roll band's started a few years ago.
it went with the other prints and paintings of jazz and rock greats.
customers would walk around looking and making comments.
it was a art gallery of pop.

The ghost of the Engineers

No cry's of play us one we know gone that drunken sway during rock and roll play.
Where is that faint smell of pot outside coming in.
My glass is filled with emptyness darkness cold no sound will i be bulldozed to the ground.

P.Fitzgerald

TransporterMan, Newport says...
9:56am Tue 13 Jan 09

My local for the past 5 years and a regular watering-hole since the Acme Jazz band.
One of the friendliest places around, with Dave the landlord leading the way.

Shame on the the brewery

ianzemma, newport says...
2:27pm Tue 13 Jan 09

unfortunately this is happening all over newport....maindee is another example...the maindee hotel has shut now the george is shutting and the bank has been sold to tescos along with the charity shop next door...so expect another tescos popping up soon!
The hereford arms is fighting to stay open due to the buildings owners wanting to turn is into flats!.
soon all they'll be are a city full of weatherspoons selling cheap out-of-date beer.

Memnoch, Newport says...
2:35pm Tue 13 Jan 09

I loved this pub, had some great nights in there and met some good people. Its just a shame that Punch and the Admiral Taverns never gave it much time or made a committment to it. This is shown by how much they invested in taking ownership of the Engineers Arms and putting their name on it (Welsh Brewers haven't owned it for years). From the day Admiral took it over it was destined to be redeveloped into flats.

Does anyone know if it is a listed building?

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