Duke drops in on Newport Cathedral (From South Wales Argus)

The Duke also called in to formally open Glyn Anwen Extra Care Home on Gainsborough Drive in St Julians.
While there he made a tour of the building and talked to the residents and their guests.
I hope the Argus manages to report this too - and publish a photo.

How many more boring times do we have to see this appeal in the Argus, it is suppose to report the news and this is no longer news, even if a duke is involved.
Rather send a request to the Vatican, that would make more sense because it's their property and they are perhaps the richest organisation in the world.

The Vatican haven't been in charge since 1536 have they?

Orson Cart wrote:
How many more boring times do we have to see this appeal in the Argus, it is suppose to report the news and this is no longer news, even if a duke is involved. Rather send a request to the Vatican, that would make more sense because it's their property and they are perhaps the richest organisation in the world.

Its an Anglican church so nothing to do with the Catholic church.

Who let it get into such a poor state in the first place? Most churches are maintained using money from its members. Why should the general public fund repair bills? God is not only found in ancient biuldings, if at all, why not build a new economical building with the money that will be easy to maintain and perhaps more in tune with those who the church should be reaching out to.

Once again we have the "same appeal" from St Woolos with their "begging bowl", ably "abetted " with the Argus in tow.

Give it up!

Its a lost cause!

You will just "incense" more people with your "biased" reporting.

The place should be shut down, build something that "even God" would be proud of, not a long forgotten "crumbling relic"!

Oh dear!

There are some 1400 Freemasons in Monmouthshire and if each Mason were to contribute a minimum of £5 per month - a little over a £ 1 per week - for 5 years and 50% complete Gift Aid Declarations then we will raise over £1m from individual donations alone.

I have facilitated an application from our Cathedral Church of St Woolos in obtaining an annual renewable Bursary Grant in the sum of £2500 pa. This will assist with fees Brethren we are challenged to do good work here for a most honourable and worthy charity.

St. Woolos Royal Arch Chapter
The information supplied on this page is not necessarily that of the Chapter Scribe E., but messages will be forwarded as required. Anybody wishing to visit the Chapter should beforehand contact the Scribe E. at the address given.

Lodge Banner
Warrant:

01/11/1871
Centre:

Newport
Meetings:

Fourth Tuesday in September. First Wednesday in November. Fourth Tuesday in January. First Wednesday in March, May
Installation:

March
Scribe E.:

St. Woolos Royal Arch Chapter
c/o Provincial Office, The Masonic Hall, 109 Dock Street, Newport NP20 2GH, South Wales

Let them "deny" the connection now!

Charity in spirit and deed
There is a great deal more to charity than money. Kindness of manner and generosity of spirit seem so often to be lacking in a high-pressure society, and as a result are more valuable than ever. These attributes are strongly encouraged within Freemasonry, and many of our members are well known in other aspects of their lives for the good work they do in the communities where they live. Having said that, money is still very important, and contributions to various charities is a fundamental part of our purpose.

However, Freemasons are ordinary people, of ordinary means. They are not better off than most others, indeed many are retired and on very modest incomes. Others are self-employed, and rightfully concerned about supporting their families on an uncertain income. Therefore, it is not productive to legislate as to how much any individual should give to charity in any year.

The rule is that we should give what we can, when we can.
How we collect money
Generally, money collected for charity comes from our own pockets, and from our friends. We tend to operate quietly among ourselves, and not compete with the public charity events and organisers. We contribute by any or all of the following means:

* Collections at our meetings.
* Raffles at dinners and social functions.
* Surplus from dinner dances and parties.
* Charity Auctions
* Specially organised concerts and other events.
* Sponsored activities, walks, climbs etc.
* Covenants and Gift Aid (having a particular tax advantage).

How we give money
There are several methods for disposing of our charity collections. Many local organisations have been supported by private donations from individual lodges, and contributions of small amounts are made frequently throughout the year.

We have organised or participated in specially organised events, such as the sponsored walk across the Second Severn Crossing which was opened in 1997, and these events raise large sums for specific purposes. In this example, over UKP 11,000 was raised for Ty Hafan Children's Hospice.

Through a Provincial Charity fund, which is dispensed to a number of local charities annually.

Privately and through the Provincial Charity fund to individuals in the community who have suffered particular hardships, such as sickness or injury, whose plight comes to our attention.

Through Grand Lodge to national and international charities. This is where we support disaster funds.

To the widows, orphans and dependent relatives of our own members. In cash, purchased services or educational foundations.

As I said in "earlier posts", just ask the masons they got plenty of money!

And theres more:

"One of Lady Raglan's illustrations, from the font of St. Woolo's Church, Newport, shows a foliate mask which is definitely horned, and has great whorls of foliage coming from its mouth."

This is connected with the "Green Man" in the pagan culture.

It just gets worse!

Just close it down and raze it to the ground.

Parcel, I haven't a clue what you are talking about.
If you object to a pagan connection in the Cathedral, I suggest you take a look at any other Christian building.
Christianity absorbed pagan ideas and rituals when it was adopted by the previously pagan Roman Empire.
For example, the celebration of feasts at Christmas and Easter to coincide with the old pagan rituals at the Solstice and Equinox.
The worship of saints to compensate for the loss of the old Roman gods.
The cult of the Virgin Mary to replace the cult of the Earth Mother. etc etc.
I think if the founders of early Christianity could see what is going on now they would be totally mystified. And mortified.

"If you object to a pagan connection in the Cathedral, I suggest you take a look at any other Christian building."

Its not just the pagan stuff, its the freemasonry links, all this stuff is available on the net.

"Seek and u will find", then it can be exposed!

If were gonna be asked to "save" anything let it be peoples lives, not rotting ancient relics, no matter what there associated with!

skeaneuk wrote:

Orson Cart wrote: How many more boring times do we have to see this appeal in the Argus, it is suppose to report the news and this is no longer news, even if a duke is involved. Rather send a request to the Vatican, that would make more sense because it's their property and they are perhaps the richest organisation in the world.

Its an Anglican church so nothing to do with the Catholic church.

Whatever, then the Anglican church can look after it because like the Vatican they are also wealthy.

You city folk make me laugh!You'd rather spend £1m on tarting up parts of the so-called city(which by the way if you raze the cathedral you'll be in breach of your city staus charter)than look after an icon of the area,a building that should last long into the future!Its a bit late to worry about freemasons Parcel,they been running the world for an awful long time now!Where were you when we needed you on Red Letter Day?Me & rest of Knights Templar had a right kicking off the catholic church!Lmao!You should be more conserned about how many coppers are masons,than whats carved on walls of St.Woolos!

"Parcel, they been running the world for an awful long time now!"
Yeh, but that dont mean we have to put up with em in the "church"!
Theres none in my "local"!

As to: "(if you raze the cathedral you'll be in breach of your city staus charter)"

Doesnt apply.
Does a town need an Anglican cathedral to become a city?

NO
The government finally broke the link between cathedrals and cities when they decided Belfast and Birmingham could become cities without cathedrals and Southwell would remain a town. Both Birmingham and Belfast eventually did get Anglican cathedrals some years after gaining city status.

Nuff said!

Being a pagan myself,I think its quite gratifying to have some of our symbols & icons incorperated into christian culture!As I was saying to St.Woolos the other day,you did a grand job on that cathedral!Shame the current generation dont have the wit to appreciate it!Now Parcel,tell me more about your childhood!

Parcel: there's freemasons everywhere -just because you don't know they're there, doesn't mean they're not. Who knows, there might even be one on this thread!