COMMENT: Withdraw troops from Afghanistan now

South Wales Argus: COMMENT: Withdraw troops from Afghanistan now COMMENT: Withdraw troops from Afghanistan now

NEWPORT West MP Paul Flynn’s expulsion from the House of Commons on Tuesday was, quite rightly, overshadowed by other news events.

Mr Flynn, a long-time and vociferous opponent of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan , was suspended from the Commons for five days after saying ministers had lied about the reasons for Britain’s ongoing Afghan operations.

He compared statements made by defence secretary Philip Hammond to the closing stages of the First World War “when politicians lied and soldiers died”.

There are many subjects on which we disagree profoundly with Mr Flynn. This is not one of them. We applaud him for sticking to his principles and agree wholeheartedly, as we have said before, it is time to bring our troops home.

More than 400 British service people have died in Afghanistan. Every one a lion led by political donkeys.

Other countries have pulled out of Afghanistan. They recognise it is an unwinnable war. Bringing our troops home does not dishonour the memory of those who have fallen in the service of their country. But allowing more of our brave men and women to be killed and maimed for the sake of political dogma does just that.

If the Americans wish to stay in Afghanistan, let them.

It is time for ministers to show the kind of independence and courage they expect from our soldiers.

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5:51pm Thu 20 Sep 12

Mervyn James says...

Did not the LABOUR party he is a member of take us in ? Afghanistan is not worth saving. Certainly not worth OUR dying for. But first, unite against Pakistan/Iran that supplies them. I suspect Israel will have to do the dirty work.... while we play at saving Afghans from themselves and pretending to be the moral majority.
Did not the LABOUR party he is a member of take us in ? Afghanistan is not worth saving. Certainly not worth OUR dying for. But first, unite against Pakistan/Iran that supplies them. I suspect Israel will have to do the dirty work.... while we play at saving Afghans from themselves and pretending to be the moral majority. Mervyn James
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8:31pm Thu 20 Sep 12

Katie Re-Registered says...

"There are many subjects on which we disagree profoundly with Mr Flynn."

Let's just hope that one of the subjects that the South Wales Argus disagrees on profoundly with Mr Flynn is his recent assertion that his fellow Jewish citizens somehow 'do not have roots here in the UK' and the racist, somewhat imperialistic terms he uses to ram this point down such as they might 'go native'(!)

Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't have had a problem if Flynn had been against Gould becoming British ambassador to Israel if it was because he felt that Gould was too biased towards Israel. However, what Flynn said last December had NOTHING to do with Israel and EVERYTHING to do with anti-semitism and racism as this was a slur against British people because they happen to be Jewish and not Israeli.

In short, it was more like something you'd expect to hear from the mouth of BNP fuhrer Nick Griffin as opposed to a Labour MP elected to serve the interests of his constituents (some of whom happen to be Jewish). I note well he made a cringeing apology to a few chums in Westminster and mumbled the typical 'how can I be anti-semitic when I have Jewish friends' excuses yet he evidently thought it beneath him to apologise or even give an account of himself to his own working class Jewish constituents in Newport.

And just how long does Mr Flynn feel a person needs to trace their ancestry back in the UK before he considers her/him as equally and authentically British as he apparently feels he is? There's been a Jewish community in Britain for at least 350 years - if he feels that after all this time they still don't have 'roots in Britain' then by that rationale he also feels that many of Britain's more recent immigrants don't belong here either - which must alienate quite a few of his constituents here in Newport!

Or did he just single out Jewish people because there aren't so many Jews in Newport and therefore it was 'safe' to do so as he wouldn't be at risk of losing so many votes - or worse still perhaps he jumped to the decidely erroneous and profoundly offensive assumption that certain other larger communities in his constituency are likely to be anti-semitic and therefore attacking Jews would be a vote-winner?

Since he proudly makes mention of 'brave British soldiers' perhaps Mr Flynn should take a 'fact-finding tour' of some the allied war grave military cemetaries in Belgium and northern France where he will find quite a few graves with Jewish stars on them underneath which are buried some of the people who sacrificed their lives to give him the freedom of speech that he wasted last December to accuse them of disloyalty?

Sorry to vent, but if Paul Flynn MP feels he can avail himself of his rightful liberty to be 'outspoken' then surely so can I - an ordinary Jo/e Public?
"There are many subjects on which we disagree profoundly with Mr Flynn." Let's just hope that one of the subjects that the South Wales Argus disagrees on profoundly with Mr Flynn is his recent assertion that his fellow Jewish citizens somehow 'do not have roots here in the UK' and the racist, somewhat imperialistic terms he uses to ram this point down such as they might 'go native'(!) Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't have had a problem if Flynn had been against Gould becoming British ambassador to Israel if it was because he felt that Gould was too biased towards Israel. However, what Flynn said last December had NOTHING to do with Israel and EVERYTHING to do with anti-semitism and racism as this was a slur against British people because they happen to be Jewish and not Israeli. In short, it was more like something you'd expect to hear from the mouth of BNP fuhrer Nick Griffin as opposed to a Labour MP elected to serve the interests of his constituents (some of whom happen to be Jewish). I note well he made a cringeing apology to a few chums in Westminster and mumbled the typical 'how can I be anti-semitic when I have Jewish friends' excuses yet he evidently thought it beneath him to apologise or even give an account of himself to his own working class Jewish constituents in Newport. And just how long does Mr Flynn feel a person needs to trace their ancestry back in the UK before he considers her/him as equally and authentically British as he apparently feels he is? There's been a Jewish community in Britain for at least 350 years - if he feels that after all this time they still don't have 'roots in Britain' then by that rationale he also feels that many of Britain's more recent immigrants don't belong here either - which must alienate quite a few of his constituents here in Newport! Or did he just single out Jewish people because there aren't so many Jews in Newport and therefore it was 'safe' to do so as he wouldn't be at risk of losing so many votes - or worse still perhaps he jumped to the decidely erroneous and profoundly offensive assumption that certain other larger communities in his constituency are likely to be anti-semitic and therefore attacking Jews would be a vote-winner? Since he proudly makes mention of 'brave British soldiers' perhaps Mr Flynn should take a 'fact-finding tour' of some the allied war grave military cemetaries in Belgium and northern France where he will find quite a few graves with Jewish stars on them underneath which are buried some of the people who sacrificed their lives to give him the freedom of speech that he wasted last December to accuse them of disloyalty? Sorry to vent, but if Paul Flynn MP feels he can avail himself of his rightful liberty to be 'outspoken' then surely so can I - an ordinary Jo/e Public? Katie Re-Registered
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