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Cwmbran residents block their road in speeding protest
11:10am Monday 1st October 2012 in News
DEMONSTRATION: Residents of Ton Road, Cwmbran, protested about traffic problems
RESIDENTS in Cwmbran staged a protest over traffic problems by blocking their road.
People in Ton Road joined together on Friday to launch a petition, which calls for their road to be blocked off from cars.
Resident Kevin Forty, who lives in the street with his six-year-old son, said: “It is a very dangerous road as cars speed up it in both directions using it as a shortcut.”
The issue has been raised with Gwent Police and Torfaen council, but Mr Forty said: “We are just going around in circles with no one taking responsibility for the road so we decided we would take action.”
Residents want one end of the road to be blocked off so that cars can’t use it to drive between Henllys Way and Two Locks Road.
As well as launching the petition, approximately 20 residents lined the road for five minutes to stop cars at 3pm in protest.
Two Locks and Henllys ward councillor Ron Burnett said: “Residents complain to me regularly about speeding and traffic issues on the road.
“The road is access only, so should only be used by residents and public transport, but it is used like a rat run.”
Residents say that the opening of nearby Nant Celyn School has only made things worse.
Comments(92)
iandfox
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1:20pm Mon 1 Oct 12
Howie'
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2:00pm Mon 1 Oct 12
iandfox wrote:Then you could be charged, Ian. If you had read the article properly then you have seen what the local Councillor said "The road is access only, so should only be used by residents and public transport" That apart I think they have every right to protest if the road is a danger to residents.
What right have they got to block off the Queens highway ? I pay road tax to use any road in the UK and I will drive on Ton road if I choose to.
hedgepiggle
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2:42pm Mon 1 Oct 12
swsxf99@googlemail.com
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4:39pm Mon 1 Oct 12
No you don't - mine is a private road and your road tax does not cover the reapir of the road the residents do.
Robodad
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8:07pm Mon 1 Oct 12
Limestonecowboy
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9:24pm Mon 1 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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11:24pm Mon 1 Oct 12
Many residents vehicles have been written off on the road, buses are like tanks coming down the road, Cars drive along pavements and STILL residents are continually snubbed by all statutory services.
Now 75 new homes to be built on firmer school site and road will get much worse.
Where is the investment in parks? Sandybrook park needs some play equipment.its a disgrace.the park was left for the community many years ago and is a neglected forgotten area. We need our elected members to support us and stand firm for our forgotten community
coxymaverick
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12:10am Tue 2 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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12:52am Tue 2 Oct 12
Sadly it will take a child before anyone listens.
We are all united on this one this time and will not be fobbed off with quick wins!
No more surveys of the road, just permanent closure is what's needed.
ignored ton road resident
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12:57am Tue 2 Oct 12
richthekeeper
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11:20am Tue 2 Oct 12
why not just make it one-way?
or better; close it off below the site of the new school so the nice people in the new houses can get in and out.
Julia1
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3:24pm Tue 2 Oct 12
county mad
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4:26pm Tue 2 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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5:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Surely walking a 100 yards to another bus stop is better than injury to a resident or damage to our cars after all when you're off the bus you can walk around town so why not another 100 yards to the next available bus stop.
We need solutions not barriers for the entire street ... please can we consider the future generations on our street and stand united in our aim for a better environment for all without the worry of waking up in the morning and finding your car shunted up the road, car written off and the road closed off whilst they clear the debris. Which is more inconvenient?
brynmair
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6:41pm Tue 2 Oct 12
cwmbranresident
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8:29pm Tue 2 Oct 12
cwmbranresident
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8:46pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Julia1 wrote:Julia has made some very perceptive comments here. Well done.
All the residents are worried about are their house prices. One particular resident on Ton Road drives his car 10 metres up the road to his mothers house and back again, he's one of them in the photo, hypocrite. My father is 86 years of age and catches the bus on Ton Road, how can you expect him to walk to the top/bottom of the road. This has not been an access only road for 27 years!
Thomas80
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9:07pm Tue 2 Oct 12
After having my car written off last year by an irresponsible driver who could have killed not only themselves but other people I believe that something needs to be done before someone actually does lose their life.
It is unfortunate that today we live in a society that is so narrow minded that instead of working together to reach a solution we constantly fight against each other.
another ton road resident
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9:10pm Tue 2 Oct 12
We all know Mr Forty and he is a good community resident who has a 6 year old son
There are many other families that live on this street with children like myself who consider this road a potential death trap with cars driving up the pavements outside our gates daily
We need ACTION
another ton road resident
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9:16pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Ton Road is not deemed a priority? Can't the council see that the residents are incurring financial loss and damage to their own property by all the comments in this article and also the lack of respect for what is a LEGAL TRAFFIC ORDER the law is not a la carte
Davelister2012
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9:31pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Limestonecowboy
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9:32pm Tue 2 Oct 12
cwmbranresident wrote:this road is not designed to be a 'busy road' these residents deserve & are entitled to live in a safe neighbourhood.
I really don't understand why Ton Road is access only anyway. Surely it would be far better to lift the restriction, treat Ton Road residents like the vast majority of us who live on busy roads, and direct policing to where it is really needed. And for the record, Mr Fortey has not been truthful as his 6 year old son does not live with him! He has used this for effect.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a total Police matter but a Partnered approach can help with the solution.
This forum is for constructive comment not to make personal attack on people - grow up!
another ton road resident
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9:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:Is this not sufficient for action to be taken?
Quote from a 89 year old resident .."i've lived on this street most of my life and brought up my family here.its just getting ridiculous.the overturned vehicle landing in my hedge which writ off the neighbours car means that I find it difficult to sleep at night worrying about this dam road"
another ton road resident
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9:41pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Limestonecowboy wrote:Could not agree with you more.
cwmbranresident wrote:this road is not designed to be a 'busy road' these residents deserve & are entitled to live in a safe neighbourhood.
I really don't understand why Ton Road is access only anyway. Surely it would be far better to lift the restriction, treat Ton Road residents like the vast majority of us who live on busy roads, and direct policing to where it is really needed. And for the record, Mr Fortey has not been truthful as his 6 year old son does not live with him! He has used this for effect.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a total Police matter but a Partnered approach can help with the solution.
This forum is for constructive comment not to make personal attack on people - grow up!
residents inform me that they have we have been asking for a multi-agency approach for many years and getting nowhere.
we need a can-do attitude not a cant do!
cwmbranresident
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9:46pm Tue 2 Oct 12
cwmbranresident
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9:50pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Limestonecowboy wrote:'Grow up' is constructive? Please respect the forum, as you say.
cwmbranresident wrote:this road is not designed to be a 'busy road' these residents deserve & are entitled to live in a safe neighbourhood.
I really don't understand why Ton Road is access only anyway. Surely it would be far better to lift the restriction, treat Ton Road residents like the vast majority of us who live on busy roads, and direct policing to where it is really needed. And for the record, Mr Fortey has not been truthful as his 6 year old son does not live with him! He has used this for effect.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a total Police matter but a Partnered approach can help with the solution.
This forum is for constructive comment not to make personal attack on people - grow up!
another ton road resident
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10:03pm Tue 2 Oct 12
cwmbranresident wrote:This is not a knee jerk reaction but is a culmination of many years of the residents views falling on deaf ears.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is important that facts are correctly stated. The fact is that the order is outdated and Cwmbran is a very different place to what it was 27 years ago. Attacking the police for not pursuing an outdated order is wrong... they have been busy solving a triple murder, chasing our drug dealers, rapists, etc. Far more important.
The order was put in place as it was a rat run then. Now after this many years the traffic has increased substantially with more and more accidents as one unfortunate resident as neatly summarised.
The new residential development is likely to exarcebate these problems as residents of the new estate will use this shortcut to access the m4 corridor and beyond
we are not attacking the police, but merely trying to work with them rather than against them to achieve constructive and workable solutions for our community
if people respected the traffic order there would not be a problem in the first place hence i refer to my earlier comment that the law is not a la carte.
We need a multi agency approach with all services to respond to the residents of ton road
yetanotherworriedresident
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10:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12
When will someone listen to our fears that that it might be a child next?? Do we have to wait until a child is seriously injured or killed before anyone does anything??
Is this really the place for a slanging match, to call people childish names and personally attack them?? Try and understand the reason for doing this - to keep our children and our homes safe. Isn't that the priority here??
We want our voices heard. We've left messages with the police and have not had any calls back. Why??
We pay our taxes, we have a right to live without fear. Now let's do something about Ton Road BEFORE a tragedy happens, enough is enough.
Julia1
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12:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Craig8
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12:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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1:27pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Do we expect out children to be trapped in their own homes as Julia 1 suggests??
Davelister2012
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4:02pm Wed 3 Oct 12
I don't agree with the road being blocked off, but the way people block drives and double park and give huge verbal abuse to the residents is outrageous and ridiculous. Something has to be done.
I personally saw a ford fiesta st doing at least 65-70 mph up the street if not more and and collided with another cars wing mirror and a curb and then continue to drive up the road.
Julia1 you are useless,
Craig8
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4:23pm Wed 3 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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4:36pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Would you allow your children to go out of sight in todays society.just open up the national press.
A park... where is the play provision? Plenty of funds for this .....
The road is an established access only road enshrined by legislation.
Would you like your car written off and being greeted by buses in the middle of the road on an extremely dangerous and fast bend.
Where are the councillors recently elected by us and paid by our taxes.only one from Henllys turned up to the residents meeting? Why?
Craig8
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5:04pm Wed 3 Oct 12
gwentexiles
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7:06pm Wed 3 Oct 12
another ton road resident
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8:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12
This road is different from others with around 7-9 cars being written off. Does anyone else experience that on their street??? i guess not!
If you are concerned about the amount of fuel you are using, get a smaller car. it costs a few pence to drive the alternative legal route!
Not every resident can afford to have drives and the average household now has 2-3 cars. Why shouldn't residents be allowed to park on the road without the fear of their car being written off?
the stupid chicanes and 3 bus stops on the road are absolutely ridiculous and are not needed. There are 5 bus stops in a space of under a 1/4 of a mile? Why?
According to other residents the road never had a bus stop years ago you either had to go up to henllys way or two locks. Why not do this again?
another ton road resident
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9:05pm Wed 3 Oct 12
gwentexiles wrote:Why should residents be penalised for parking on their own road?
If you parked your cars on your drives you wouldn't have this problem, maybe they should make it permit parking on 1 side of the road as a solution instead. Most people have drives to park on anyway. Those that can't park can find somewhere out of the street and walk since they have no sympathy for the parents picking up their children who have a similar problem. If your only concern is safety Ton road residents there's your solution! The road was built for 2 lanes!
parents are breaking the law parking on Ton road to pick up school children.
Even the school teachers use the road... what example is this setting to parents and pupils. The law is not a la carte! Absolutely incredible that pupils who attend the school and live on the street witnessed teachers coming down the road when we were all protesting
What will the govenors do about this? What a wonderful example to set
as someone stated, the school is not open in holidays and at weekends. Welsh Government promotes 21st century schools as community schools. Why are they closed at key times when the wider community could utilise them?
another ton road resident
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9:18pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Craig8 wrote:does a minute or so of driving around a "longer route" cause an inconvenience? it's not as if Cwmbran is the M25??
Well, why not speak to the council about that as another option? I know your all saying its access only, but why? why is the road so different to other main roads meaning normal people who pay the same tax to have their car on the roads use it and use more fuel? it should be a normal road with speed bumps or give way islands on them. As for the kids, don't get me wrong i want them safe and sound and wouldn't like anything bad to happen to them, but again what if it was any other normal main road would it be right for people who live on those roads to apply for it to become access only because they would like it so their kids could play out the front and it be convenient for them, meaning when your out driving you may have to use a longer more costly route?
Perhaps it would be good for the councillors and officers to house swap with some residents who live immediately on the street. They would soon be fed up and wanting to move back!
No more cars written off we want action....It will be a child next on Ton Road...
mvaone
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9:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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9:39pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Why attack Mr forty he is standing up for many residents concerns.let's applaud him not criticize
We should fight for this bus stop to be moved its far too dangerous.I almost crashed today.
Craig8
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9:40pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Well yeah it is an inconvenience when the road can take you straight through to the other side, why should people use the long way just because people who live on ton road would like us to? You may own the house but you don't own the road, it is not private property is it? Give some figures then, how many people have been injured and how many cars have been written off for it to be as bad as your all making out??
another ton road resident
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9:57pm Wed 3 Oct 12
mvaone wrote:in support of Mr Forty, please get your facts right. the car that was parked there was a builders car, improving ton road residents properties and the PCSO issued a parking ticket on it! poor builder!
Mr Fortey is a hypocrite as he reguarly parks his car on the bus stop outside his house this was evident this afternoon as a passenger on the bus I was on had to get off in the road.To say the buses drive fast is an understatement as people park on both sides of the road and lorries and vans of workmen block the road and make it impossible for anything to get through including dustbin carts and emergency services.
How do you get into your house with a bus stop outside it. Do you park 200 yards up the road away from the yellow lines to open your driveway gates???
Lets remove the bus stop its ridiculously placed.
another ton road resident
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10:01pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Craig8 wrote:the law states that it is access only. abuse of this is an offence.
Again you still don't answer the question, why should this be an access only road over any other?
Well yeah it is an inconvenience when the road can take you straight through to the other side, why should people use the long way just because people who live on ton road would like us to? You may own the house but you don't own the road, it is not private property is it? Give some figures then, how many people have been injured and how many cars have been written off for it to be as bad as your all making out??
see the post from another resident who had her car written off recently....
between 5 and 7 vehicles written off
one girl run over
car mirrors damaged
cars shunted when residents going into drives because of impatient non-residents
isn't this enough evidence?
ignored ton road resident
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10:27pm Wed 3 Oct 12
mvaone wrote:Block it off then our family would be much happier knowing our children are safe and our cars in one piece.
Mr Fortey is a hypocrite as he reguarly parks his car on the bus stop outside his house this was evident this afternoon as a passenger on the bus I was on had to get off in the road.To say the buses drive fast is an understatement as people park on both sides of the road and lorries and vans of workmen block the road and make it impossible for anything to get through including dustbin carts and emergency services.
It's not suitable as a bus route.get rid of it.its there for the minority and those with a free bus pass!
mvaone
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10:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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11:18pm Wed 3 Oct 12
I hope that guy challenges his parking ticket
Get rid of the bus stop close the road and walk down the road to a bus stop
You clearly don't have children like we do on this death trap of a street.
Bus service can be moved, get rid of it on our street.
How many use the three bus stops on a road a few hundred yards.get them from here
Davelister2012
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12:16am Thu 4 Oct 12
To all the haters of this comment, stop taking it out on mr fortey.
If I was to speed outside your house, run over a family member of yours, or to damage your car, I'm sure you would soon moan, or if I parked outside your house and then just stood there shouting abuse at you. Infact if you tell me where you live and ill do it and see how you like it shall we?
As for the bus stop outside of mr forteys house, it is absolutely an appalling place to put it and was put there with no thought by the stupid council. With no thought of how dangerous it is to put a bus stop right on the corner so as you come down the road you can't see it and could crash into it or someone could step out into the road because of it.
I think that the bus stops,should go, the shacanes should go, and for you ignorant people to stop ignoring the law.
Davelister2012
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12:23am Thu 4 Oct 12
When they redesigned the road and built the new school it was to keep it separate from our road, so sod off and pick your kids up at the school itself, and stop bringing your cars down here. God knows how they are going to redesign it all when they build the new houses up there but I can assure you that the residents who move in will not want you parking around the houses and cars either.
Maybe there should be a new access created now while they have a chance off hennlys way going over the old school yard and down to the new school and creating a waiting area for cars for the school, instead of building houses.
Davelister2012
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12:23am Thu 4 Oct 12
When they redesigned the road and built the new school it was to keep it separate from our road, so sod off and pick your kids up at the school itself, and stop bringing your cars down here. God knows how they are going to redesign it all when they build the new houses up there but I can assure you that the residents who move in will not want you parking around the houses and cars either.
Maybe there should be a new access created now while they have a chance off hennlys way going over the old school yard and down to the new school and creating a waiting area for cars for the school, instead of building houses.
ignored ton road resident
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9:24am Thu 4 Oct 12
Maybe the council and councillors can fund a convoy vehicle to go up and down the road like they do in roadworks to protect the workforce
This will protect our children and vehicles from yet more damage.
Will anyone listen? Very much doubt it.
Where are the councillors when you need them.they only come out to canvas before the elections and stay silent for the next 4 years picking up our tax payers money each month.... there are some exceptions to this
Julia1
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9:33am Thu 4 Oct 12
Julia1
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9:33am Thu 4 Oct 12
wizurd
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11:25am Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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11:45am Thu 4 Oct 12
Get rid of both they're useless and just block it off
ignored ton road resident
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11:50am Thu 4 Oct 12
wizurd wrote:No the mindless morons who break the law using this road
what a mountain out of a mole hill. A road is for cars. If you can't be bothered to look after your children and want them running around on a public highway then it's your fault. Take ownership of your own children and make sure they are not allowed out alone on the public highway. as for people speeding and driving dangerously then they should be prosecuted for that by the police. its simple really. prosecute drivers when they break the law and take responsibility for your children and don't let them play out or near a busy public highway. If I child runs out from between parked cars and gets hit and the car isn't speeding and can do nothing about it who's fault is that exactly?! The parents for not providing sufficient supervision of their child.
It's access only..... should it be a busy road.... I think not
Keep off our street
wizurd
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12:21pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:rof funny as - how is it "your road"?
wizurd wrote: what a mountain out of a mole hill. A road is for cars. If you can't be bothered to look after your children and want them running around on a public highway then it's your fault. Take ownership of your own children and make sure they are not allowed out alone on the public highway. as for people speeding and driving dangerously then they should be prosecuted for that by the police. its simple really. prosecute drivers when they break the law and take responsibility for your children and don't let them play out or near a busy public highway. If I child runs out from between parked cars and gets hit and the car isn't speeding and can do nothing about it who's fault is that exactly?! The parents for not providing sufficient supervision of their child.No the mindless morons who break the law using this road It's access only..... should it be a busy road.... I think not Keep off our street
actually don't bother answering that because your probably struggling to even turn the pc on, let alone use it lol
cwmbran man
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12:32pm Thu 4 Oct 12
cwmbran man
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12:32pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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2:21pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Get the facts right the pub is outside of the order therefore cars shouldn't use road to access mill tavern.
Our family want it shut off.
Cars drive up pavement cars are written off... serious road safety issue here on a busy school route used by parents and children. Would you allow your child to walk alone on a pavement with cars mounting it .... I think not
Craig8
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3:29pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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3:52pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Craig8 wrote:Ye give us ur address and well obstruct ur driveway, shout abuse at u wen ur going into ur drive, And hit ur car and drive off ...
You lot seem a bit stuck up to be honest. your all going about it as if you own the road. YOU DON'T!! Even if it is access only, it shouldn't be. I tell you what, if i give you my address can you not drive this way please and go the long way around so i can allow the kids out to play on the road? Thanks
fact is that its enshrined in statute .... legally an offence to drive thru.
Residents r united keep off our street or face a fine
ignored ton road resident
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3:59pm Thu 4 Oct 12
wizurd wrote:Were a community united and fighting for our street keep off our street or u will be fined ....
ignored ton road resident wrote:rof funny as - how is it "your road"? actually don't bother answering that because your probably struggling to even turn the pc on, let alone use it lolwizurd wrote: what a mountain out of a mole hill. A road is for cars. If you can't be bothered to look after your children and want them running around on a public highway then it's your fault. Take ownership of your own children and make sure they are not allowed out alone on the public highway. as for people speeding and driving dangerously then they should be prosecuted for that by the police. its simple really. prosecute drivers when they break the law and take responsibility for your children and don't let them play out or near a busy public highway. If I child runs out from between parked cars and gets hit and the car isn't speeding and can do nothing about it who's fault is that exactly?! The parents for not providing sufficient supervision of their child.No the mindless morons who break the law using this road It's access only..... should it be a busy road.... I think not Keep off our street
Cameron is advocating communities take charge ..... that's exactly what were doing
Craig8
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4:07pm Thu 4 Oct 12
I don't actually use this road but would actually save time by using it. I don't drive fast or irresponsibly so you wont have to worry about kids getting hurt or cars being written off.
spice15
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5:03pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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6:23pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Craig8 wrote:You're missing the point.its a short cut and rat run with a legal order restricting its use.
You lot seem a bit stuck up to be honest. your all going about it as if you own the road. YOU DON'T!! Even if it is access only, it shouldn't be. I tell you what, if i give you my address can you not drive this way please and go the long way around so i can allow the kids out to play on the road? Thanks
The law is the law and 27years ago the road was piloted as an access only with the intention of blocking off if it didn't work.
Need we say more ....
Speeding is only one of the issues.cars being written off the list for a on
TON ROAD IS A PRIORITY FOR ACTION BY THE COUNCIL
WELL KEEP FIGHTING AND IF IT MEANS BLOCKING THE ROAD AGAIN WE WILL DO JUST THAT
spice15
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6:34pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Whats good one for is good for the other we are all entitled to the same rights and safety issues!
Lucha Libre
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6:55pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Davelister2012 wrote:had your speed gun out that day did you??
Julia1 I have lived on ton road for 22years and it has been access only the entire time. You clearly have no clue what you are on about,
I don't agree with the road being blocked off, but the way people block drives and double park and give huge verbal abuse to the residents is outrageous and ridiculous. Something has to be done.
I personally saw a ford fiesta st doing at least 65-70 mph up the street if not more and and collided with another cars wing mirror and a curb and then continue to drive up the road.
Julia1 you are useless,
Lucha Libre
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7:15pm Thu 4 Oct 12
How expensive is some weed proof membrane and a few bags of chippings??
All I hear on here is a bunch of whingers, moaning and cavetching about "their road" get a grip you bunch of Numptys sorry Nimbys.. Do something constructive like I dunno going up to help search for that young girl who has gone missing!! The world is a bigger place than ton road.. Pfft!!
ignored ton road resident
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7:20pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Lucha Libre
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7:26pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:Try again but this time make it make sense!!
Is urs access only
It's not hard to spell words correctly, is it??
ignored ton road resident
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7:48pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Lucha Libre wrote:You don't know the meaning of nimby!
Here's an idea turn those roapy looking excuses of front gardens into a driveway!! How expensive is some weed proof membrane and a few bags of chippings?? All I hear on here is a bunch of whingers, moaning and cavetching about "their road" get a grip you bunch of Numptys sorry Nimbys.. Do something constructive like I dunno going up to help search for that young girl who has gone missing!! The world is a bigger place than ton road.. Pfft!!
We are constructive and as neighbours help each other to assist the services I.e. ambulance fire and police when cars get written off on the road.
It's costs 500 pounds to drop your kerb.we've looked into that but cannot afford it on our minimum wage.
Typical comment from a non resident with no concept of the issues residents face daily
ignored ton road resident
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7:53pm Thu 4 Oct 12
spice15 wrote:Good.for far too long we have endured this
Crack on! I think we all ought to do the same then and fight for our rights and all start blocking roads that are an issue to us!! Whats good one for is good for the other we are all entitled to the same rights and safety issues!
It's time for change
another ton road resident
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9:18pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Lucha Libre wrote:Perhaps that resident knows what they are talking about.
Davelister2012 wrote:had your speed gun out that day did you??
Julia1 I have lived on ton road for 22years and it has been access only the entire time. You clearly have no clue what you are on about,
I don't agree with the road being blocked off, but the way people block drives and double park and give huge verbal abuse to the residents is outrageous and ridiculous. Something has to be done.
I personally saw a ford fiesta st doing at least 65-70 mph up the street if not more and and collided with another cars wing mirror and a curb and then continue to drive up the road.
Julia1 you are useless,
you weren't here at 3am in the morning when the road was blocked off were you?
a typical comment from a non-resident
another ton road resident
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9:22pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:It is exactly time for change
spice15 wrote:Good.for far too long we have endured this
Crack on! I think we all ought to do the same then and fight for our rights and all start blocking roads that are an issue to us!! Whats good one for is good for the other we are all entitled to the same rights and safety issues!
It's time for change
Perhaps we should block your drive, abuse you outside your house and clip your car when you are going up your street and drive off.....
i'm sure you would retract that comment if you realised what the road was actually like!
GOOD ON YOU OTHER RESIDENTS OF TON ROAD
another ton road resident
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9:31pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:Well said resident.
wizurd wrote:Were a community united and fighting for our street keep off our street or u will be fined ....
ignored ton road resident wrote:rof funny as - how is it "your road"? actually don't bother answering that because your probably struggling to even turn the pc on, let alone use it lolwizurd wrote: what a mountain out of a mole hill. A road is for cars. If you can't be bothered to look after your children and want them running around on a public highway then it's your fault. Take ownership of your own children and make sure they are not allowed out alone on the public highway. as for people speeding and driving dangerously then they should be prosecuted for that by the police. its simple really. prosecute drivers when they break the law and take responsibility for your children and don't let them play out or near a busy public highway. If I child runs out from between parked cars and gets hit and the car isn't speeding and can do nothing about it who's fault is that exactly?! The parents for not providing sufficient supervision of their child.No the mindless morons who break the law using this road It's access only..... should it be a busy road.... I think not Keep off our street
Cameron is advocating communities take charge ..... that's exactly what were doing
We've been ignored for far far too long
TK355
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10:13pm Thu 4 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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10:41pm Thu 4 Oct 12
It's a side road tributary used as a rat run.
It's illegal to use unless you're a resident and has been now for many years
We have a strong argument for action given the level of rta's and speed.
I challenge you to live here. Let's house swap....
ignored ton road resident
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7:11am Fri 5 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident wrote:Could not agree with you more. Would u risk ur car being written off or damaged.
If you lived on the road you would know that parking is limited, the chicanes and bus stops take up at least 10 spaces and have forced residents to park on one side of the road creating a dangerous single carriageway. Before there were natural chicanes and more spaces for residents. Get rid of both they're useless and just block it off
One 4x4 parked safely outside a residents house was written off by a bus.a bus using the road legally mind ....
A typical response from a non resident Julia 1 who hasn't got a clue
spice15
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8:47am Fri 5 Oct 12
spice15
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9:02am Fri 5 Oct 12
another ton road resident wrote:No actually I stand by everything I have said - I personally have had my car damaged outside my home and had the police involved, I also have raised an issue with our local councillor, so as you can see you really are not the only people in Cwmbran with this problem. We also have issues with off-road vehicles coming through onto public footpaths, with gardens gates on these footpaths, which is dangerous as well!!
ignored ton road resident wrote:It is exactly time for change
spice15 wrote:Good.for far too long we have endured this
Crack on! I think we all ought to do the same then and fight for our rights and all start blocking roads that are an issue to us!! Whats good one for is good for the other we are all entitled to the same rights and safety issues!
It's time for change
Perhaps we should block your drive, abuse you outside your house and clip your car when you are going up your street and drive off.....
i'm sure you would retract that comment if you realised what the road was actually like!
GOOD ON YOU OTHER RESIDENTS OF TON ROAD
spice15
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9:02am Fri 5 Oct 12
another ton road resident wrote:No actually I stand by everything I have said - I personally have had my car damaged outside my home and had the police involved, I also have raised an issue with our local councillor, so as you can see you really are not the only people in Cwmbran with this problem. We also have issues with off-road vehicles coming through onto public footpaths, with gardens gates on these footpaths, which is dangerous as well!!
ignored ton road resident wrote:It is exactly time for change
spice15 wrote:Good.for far too long we have endured this
Crack on! I think we all ought to do the same then and fight for our rights and all start blocking roads that are an issue to us!! Whats good one for is good for the other we are all entitled to the same rights and safety issues!
It's time for change
Perhaps we should block your drive, abuse you outside your house and clip your car when you are going up your street and drive off.....
i'm sure you would retract that comment if you realised what the road was actually like!
GOOD ON YOU OTHER RESIDENTS OF TON ROAD
cwmbran man
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10:53am Fri 5 Oct 12
username2
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12:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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8:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12
cwmbran man wrote:Petty.... 7 cars written off isn't petty buddy.
I dont agree with the fuss the residents are making, seem a bit petty to me, however, if there are restrictions on the road surely a simple taking of offenders car registrations and passing these to the police will sort it, if the police dont act on the number plates ask them why they arent upholding the law and report them to their superiors.
Police do not have resources to police it.
We will get it closed no matter what even if we all have to pay for it.they've done this in England....
50 names on the petition doesn't that tell the authorities something
My car bumper was clipped this afternoon at 12.15 wen I was going into my drive.mindless idiots using the road and driving off
Members tell us the police do not have records of accidents.... why not? Are the figures being doctored? ?
ignored ton road resident
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8:53pm Fri 5 Oct 12
username2 wrote:Can we bring this back to reality.
Just another busy road. Get on with it.
to all non residents....Thank you for your comments, you're entitled to your opinions but please consider the unfortunate residents that have had their cars written off, residents that have nearly been knocked off the pavements and children that have to be trapped in their gardens.....
As Cameron said... its time for change and for communities to be united.
We are just that. For far too long we have been snubbed by the authorities... no more
another ton road resident
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11:05pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Thanks to all those that have supported us. To those that havent just to say that non-support of us is supporting those that break the law i.e school head, councillors, police and non residents.
Just to remind you ....
The road is access only through legislation. It is not a main road it is used as a shortcut to enter hollybush way and cwmbran drive. Unlike other roads mentioned it is used by young children to access their community school.
Disabled people on the street are unable to park outside or close to their homes because the bus stops prevent this as do the chichanes. Is this right?
Furthermore, Residents regularly have their drives blocked by non residents using the road to access the school.
Those that have drives have had cars damaged by non residents turning on them... Do they care ... no!
We are not nimbys, chavs or any other derogatory term. We would be content to keep it open if we were treated with moral decency and law abiding people kept off the street, agreed not to damage our cars and drive off, block drives, not turn on residents drives allow emergency vehicles to use the road safely, allow our pensioners to sleep peacefully and allow children to walk on pavements without them being mown down by cars driving up the kerbs.
The vehicle that ended up, upside down in a hedge was at 3am... luckily it wasnt 3:30pm when children would have potentially been killed!
There have been up to 7 cars possibly more written off on this street and they are residents, god knows what happened to the non residents perhaps this figure is 14??
The chicanes are not what was asked for, as these were funded by the councillors just before the elections!!! We wanted the same as Llanyravon... Why are we any different?
There have been numberous reasons why this road is categorised as dangerous and in need of immediate action. IT was recognised that this was the case many many years ago when access only was granted for the road as a pilot and if this didnt work it would be blocked off. Two turning areas were created to facilitate a closure one at the school, the other in the nursing home at the bottom of the road so there was therefore consensus that it would be closed if access only did not work
Why shouldn't it be blocked off and create an exemplar homezone like the circle inbetween the crescent.
At the end of the day, only non residents can decide if they wish to break the law and use our road wrecklessly, some dont but we will fight for this road to be closed off.
There will be huge savings on the public purse if this is realised. This money can be diverted into other priority areas within the county borough or maybe it can be put into Sandybrook Park as all of my three small children would like to play in a park that has some play equipment rather than tarmac from a park that was there 20 years ago that is now riddled with smashed bottles and neglect. Why do we pay council tax and tax on our employment and fund the police service??
It is as one resident has put it time for change and for communities to take ownership... we are doing just that
ngtarr
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12:04am Sat 6 Oct 12
cwmbran man
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1:56pm Sat 6 Oct 12
ignored ton road resident
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12:38pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Now its time for the council to listen to residents as well as statutory services.
Please refer to the facts outlined in the post around the history of the road and try to depersonalise comments
cwmbran man
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2:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Man of Ponty says...
12:03pm Mon 1 Oct 12