Names for Gwent crime commissioner elections confirmed

First published in News South Wales Argus: Photograph of the Author by

FOUR names are in the ring for next month's police and crime commissioner elections - with two independents running against two party candidates.

Independents Ian Johnston and Chris Wright - both of whom at former police officers - are to run against Labour's Hamish Sandison and the Conservatives' Nick Webb But today's "statement as to persons nominated" omitted mention of former Blaenau Gwent leader Des Hilman and ex-UK government minister Ron Davies.

Both had indicated they were interested in the position and might take part but neither were nominated as candidates.

It is now too late for either of them to join in - with the deadline for nominations having closed at midday today.

But in truth the list of candidates would have come as little surprise to followers of the Gwent campaign so far, with all individuals that had actively campaigned prior to the deadline being nominated.

Candidates had to put up a deposit of £5,000 and collect 100 signatures in support.

According to the statement - which doesn't give precise addresses - Mr Johnston's home address is in the Caerphilly county ward of Penmaen, while Mr Sandison is listed as living at Llangybi in Monmouthshire.

Mr Webb is said to have a home address in Allt-yr-yn in Newport ward while Mr Wright is noted as from Llanbradach in Caerphilly county.

The election, taking place on November 15, will include a new voting system where you can select your first and second preference candidate.

At the count the first preferences will be counted, and if a candidate receives more than 50 per cent of the votes cast they are elected.

If no candidate has more than 50 per cent, all candidates apart from those in the first and second place are eliminated.

Votes for those candidates will then have their second choices added to the other candidates first preference votes.

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3:20pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Dai the Milk says...

'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' asked the Roman poet Juvenal......and rightly so. 'Who polices the police?' How the hell can ex-police officers be entrusted with keeping a check on the police? Someone has to do it but it has to be someone with no allegiances (or pals who are owed favours) surely for God's sake. It is bad enough that they are investigated internally by themselves but the public needs complete confidence that whoever does do it is not calling in any favours.
'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' asked the Roman poet Juvenal......and rightly so. 'Who polices the police?' How the hell can ex-police officers be entrusted with keeping a check on the police? Someone has to do it but it has to be someone with no allegiances (or pals who are owed favours) surely for God's sake. It is bad enough that they are investigated internally by themselves but the public needs complete confidence that whoever does do it is not calling in any favours. Dai the Milk
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4:23pm Fri 19 Oct 12

stracey-tracey-smyth says...

^ I'm more concerned about the politicians..... Still, seeing Ron Davies had declared an interest gave me a brief giggle.
^ I'm more concerned about the politicians..... Still, seeing Ron Davies had declared an interest gave me a brief giggle. stracey-tracey-smyth
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5:04pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Dai the Milk says...

You're never going to have a candidate without some beliefs unless you elect a person without a brain.......but surely there's a huge difference between having some beliefs (left or right) and working amongst your friends again. That can't be right.
You're never going to have a candidate without some beliefs unless you elect a person without a brain.......but surely there's a huge difference between having some beliefs (left or right) and working amongst your friends again. That can't be right. Dai the Milk
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5:14pm Fri 19 Oct 12

stracey-tracey-smyth says...

With respect, we're not talking about people "having some beliefs" but individuals representing political parties, but then I believe that they swear an 'oath of impartiality' prior to taking up this new position... so I guess that's ok then.
Regarding your' other point, be under no illusion, I'll be voting for 'none of the above'...which is a crying shame.
With respect, we're not talking about people "having some beliefs" but individuals representing political parties, but then I believe that they swear an 'oath of impartiality' prior to taking up this new position... so I guess that's ok then. Regarding your' other point, be under no illusion, I'll be voting for 'none of the above'...which is a crying shame. stracey-tracey-smyth
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7:11pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Dai the Milk says...

STS......beliefs....
political parties....all the same to me. Rather those than people looking after their own ex pals and vice versa.
STS......beliefs.... political parties....all the same to me. Rather those than people looking after their own ex pals and vice versa. Dai the Milk
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8:47pm Fri 19 Oct 12

On the inside says...

I agree with Dai the Milk. OK, it is not unheard of for candidates of political parties not to stick to their parties policies, but at least it gives an indication of their 'direction of travel' and come the next election you have something to judge them against.

All that can be said for independents is that they will never let the electorate down because they have promised them nothing in the first place!
I agree with Dai the Milk. OK, it is not unheard of for candidates of political parties not to stick to their parties policies, but at least it gives an indication of their 'direction of travel' and come the next election you have something to judge them against. All that can be said for independents is that they will never let the electorate down because they have promised them nothing in the first place! On the inside
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8:57am Sat 20 Oct 12

pinpong says...

Independents are usually one issue politicians who are generally crackers. Just look at some of the nutcases that popped up at the last council elections all former party members one of them had been in labour and the torys. How can you trust them? For this election i will vote and to be honest my vote will go to labour this time as there candidate seems to have the best credentials.
Independents are usually one issue politicians who are generally crackers. Just look at some of the nutcases that popped up at the last council elections all former party members one of them had been in labour and the torys. How can you trust them? For this election i will vote and to be honest my vote will go to labour this time as there candidate seems to have the best credentials. pinpong
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9:45am Sat 20 Oct 12

Dai the Milk says...

It is not about how much previous experience a candidate has in the role. Having experience in the role can in fact, as I've explained above, be counter-productive and even possibly dangerous. It is about passion to protect the interests of the public. It is about caring deeply for those around you. It is about not allowing mickey mouse statistics like those in this week's Argus which attempt to con the public. It is about trust. Choose this candidate very very carefully. It is a very important role.
It is not about how much previous experience a candidate has in the role. Having experience in the role can in fact, as I've explained above, be counter-productive and even possibly dangerous. It is about passion to protect the interests of the public. It is about caring deeply for those around you. It is about not allowing mickey mouse statistics like those in this week's Argus which attempt to con the public. It is about trust. Choose this candidate very very carefully. It is a very important role. Dai the Milk
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12:41pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Mervyn James says...

This will be the biggest non-event in recent history, I doubt 10% of the electorate is going to bother voting at all. We need a 'sheriff' like a hole in the head. The danger populist views will overtake areas of real concern is a real issue. E.G dog-fouling is more of an issue than burglary or child abuse... Daily Mail fans will have a field day.
This will be the biggest non-event in recent history, I doubt 10% of the electorate is going to bother voting at all. We need a 'sheriff' like a hole in the head. The danger populist views will overtake areas of real concern is a real issue. E.G dog-fouling is more of an issue than burglary or child abuse... Daily Mail fans will have a field day. Mervyn James
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1:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12

jamie_2k8 says...

well i have only one comment to make dave johnston is the man for the job i,ve known dave since he was a pc on the beat around blackwood hes a fair cop and some one you can talk to so dave johnston fingers crossed for you mate c james i,m 100% behind you
well i have only one comment to make dave johnston is the man for the job i,ve known dave since he was a pc on the beat around blackwood hes a fair cop and some one you can talk to so dave johnston fingers crossed for you mate c james i,m 100% behind you jamie_2k8
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1:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Dai the Milk says...

I thought he was in charge of a police station ???? Have you got the right man?
I thought he was in charge of a police station ???? Have you got the right man? Dai the Milk
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1:38pm Sat 20 Oct 12

focus 12 says...

I agree with you pingpong , I dont vote Labour but will be doing so in this election.
I agree with you pingpong , I dont vote Labour but will be doing so in this election. focus 12
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