1,300 sign petition to save Gwent music service

South Wales Argus: 1,300 sign petition to save Gwent music service 1,300 sign petition to save Gwent music service

MORE than 1,300 people have signed a petition calling on Newport council to drop its proposal to axe funding to Gwent Music Support Service.

The council has suggested ending its contribution of £292,000 a year to the service, also known as GMSS, saying it has to concentrate on frontline education.

But one councillor said people at the council should hang their heads in shame, accusing the authority of cultural vandalism.

Newport council is consulting on the proposal – among other measures in the draft budget for 2013/14 – until February 13.

The petition, on change.org, had attracted 1,362 signatures from people from across the UK last night.

David Williams, a Tory councillor for Graig ward, signed the petition and commented: “This is cultural vandalism on the part of the city council.

“They should hang their heads in shame,” he added.

Students and alumni of GMSS have left messages on the change.org website against the cut, which Monmouthshire Council has said could have significant implications for the service.

Erin Morrey, from Birmingham, wrote: “GMSS are a fantastic organisation and one that has enriched the lives of thousands of children.

“They provided me with the platform to play at a national level and in many great concert halls here in the UK and abroad.”

Joshua Jones, of Cwmbran, said the service has taken himself from a boy of eight into a university student pursuing music.

He said: “Surely these cuts can’t be given the go-ahead, causing 1,000 children to perhaps give up their hobby, natural gift and potentially their future?”

Rhys Ward, of Newport, added: “This could see one of the finest youth music services in the UK decline and consequently affect the standard of music-making nationwide.”

To see the petition visit http://chn.ge/UWKosC

For more information on Newport council’s consultation go to www.newport.gov.uk/budget

ARGUS COMMENT: Tune in and see sense

NEWPORT CITY Council may find that it has to rethink its proposal to axe funding from the wellrespected Gwent Music Support Service.

We warned from the outset that to withdraw funding from GMSS would be an unpopular suggestion.

And judging by the number of people already signing up to a petition against the plan, it looks as though we will be proved right.

However, this is not about whether our gut feeling is right, but is about funding a music tuition service which has built up a national reputation for excellence.

The city council’s proposal to withdraw all of its £292,000 share of funding for the service, which also receives money from Torfaen and Monmouthshire county councils, has resulted in a backlash from people right across the country.

Former students who have gone on to pursue successful musical careers, music critics and leaders in the field have all spoken out and are pleading with Newport City Council to think again.

Opposition councillors are also letting it be known that this is not a funding cut they feel they could support.

We urge the council to listen and to rethink this plan.

Yes, there are budgetary pressures and money needs to be saved, but we think the suggestion that all of Gwent Music Support Service’s funding is cut in one move is a step too far.

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9:53am Thu 27 Dec 12

areyour4real says...

Put the price of car parking up and give that cash to Gwent music!
Seems obvious suddenly.
Put the price of car parking up and give that cash to Gwent music! Seems obvious suddenly. areyour4real

11:18am Thu 27 Dec 12

D Taylor says...

Good idea. Charging £1:50 to park instead of £1 should be more than enough to cover the contribution to Gwent music.
Good idea. Charging £1:50 to park instead of £1 should be more than enough to cover the contribution to Gwent music. D Taylor

1:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bobevans says...

It would take far more than yhat Gwent Music is like a black hole it burns through money like no tomorrow,
It would take far more than yhat Gwent Music is like a black hole it burns through money like no tomorrow, Bobevans

1:10pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Bobevans says...

SAo is the Argus which is so keen to spend other people money goinmg to foot the hvery high bill for Gwent Music & the Hree car parking any anything else is deems should be Free. I would guess not.


Would the Argus care to suggest bwhat taxes should be increased in Wales to pay for these things? I guess we bwill get silence from them on that as well
SAo is the Argus which is so keen to spend other people money goinmg to foot the hvery high bill for Gwent Music & the Hree car parking any anything else is deems should be Free. I would guess not. Would the Argus care to suggest bwhat taxes should be increased in Wales to pay for these things? I guess we bwill get silence from them on that as well Bobevans

1:51pm Thu 27 Dec 12

pinpong says...

How about we get rid of the welsh assembly then everyone could have music lessons
How about we get rid of the welsh assembly then everyone could have music lessons pinpong

3:41pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Mr Bump. says...

It's a non essential service, we should be cutting back on things like these before essential services.
It's a non essential service, we should be cutting back on things like these before essential services. Mr Bump.

6:04pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Dave on his Soapbox says...

….. “They provided me with the platform to play….. concert halls here in the UK and abroad”
Joshua Jones, said: “……causing 1,000 children to perhaps give up their hobby”
….what parent or child would want this funding to end when it gives them such opportunities to travel and enjoy pursuing their hobby…..I’m sure there’s many out there in an envious position and would love not to have to find the money themselves to pay for some activity or hobby…..but should some get it while others don’t?
……when central (Westminster) and local (WAG) government are cutting funding and grants….there are going to be hard and unpopular decisions to be made………..as there is no bottomless pot of money to fund everything.
….. “They provided me with the platform to play….. concert halls here in the UK and abroad” Joshua Jones, said: “……causing 1,000 children to perhaps give up their hobby” ….what parent or child would want this funding to end when it gives them such opportunities to travel and enjoy pursuing their hobby…..I’m sure there’s many out there in an envious position and would love not to have to find the money themselves to pay for some activity or hobby…..but should some get it while others don’t? ……when central (Westminster) and local (WAG) government are cutting funding and grants….there are going to be hard and unpopular decisions to be made………..as there is no bottomless pot of money to fund everything. Dave on his Soapbox

10:35pm Thu 27 Dec 12

remiquaver says...

I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals?
I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals? remiquaver

11:05pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Robindabank says...

Whatever next....as long as they don't cut the shove ha'penny grants or there'll be trouble....
Whatever next....as long as they don't cut the shove ha'penny grants or there'll be trouble.... Robindabank

11:08pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Robindabank says...

Whatever next....as long as they don't cut the shove ha'penny grants or there'll be trouble....
Whatever next....as long as they don't cut the shove ha'penny grants or there'll be trouble.... Robindabank

11:23pm Thu 27 Dec 12

remiquaver says...

I mean the chief executives by the way, not normal councillors, as it was the CE's idea to cut it.
I mean the chief executives by the way, not normal councillors, as it was the CE's idea to cut it. remiquaver

11:31pm Thu 27 Dec 12

FrannieB says...

Newport has become a cultural abyss . It is a sad fact that those who exercise budgetary control lack the capacity to understand and appreciate the benefits the study of music can bring both in individual and wider terms .
Regardless of a child's background the GMSS provides access and entry in to a world of music they may not otherwise experience.
One of my daughters was provided with her first musical instrument ,a violin , this way.
I should stress we are not a musical family and it was a surprise to all of us to find she loved to play.
She went on to study classical music at degree level , performing with many orchestras ,has a good career and also teaches the violin .
She made life long friends through the study of music , and developed a strength of character and a joy when playing which was plain for all to see and hear.
Newport has become a soulless place ,today more than ever all of our children need a chance to shine , to live and embrace life to the full , to the ultimate benefit of society as a whole .
Newport has become a cultural abyss . It is a sad fact that those who exercise budgetary control lack the capacity to understand and appreciate the benefits the study of music can bring both in individual and wider terms . Regardless of a child's background the GMSS provides access and entry in to a world of music they may not otherwise experience. One of my daughters was provided with her first musical instrument ,a violin , this way. I should stress we are not a musical family and it was a surprise to all of us to find she loved to play. She went on to study classical music at degree level , performing with many orchestras ,has a good career and also teaches the violin . She made life long friends through the study of music , and developed a strength of character and a joy when playing which was plain for all to see and hear. Newport has become a soulless place ,today more than ever all of our children need a chance to shine , to live and embrace life to the full , to the ultimate benefit of society as a whole . FrannieB

12:15am Fri 28 Dec 12

D Taylor says...

Don't tell us, tell the Government in London who are imposing these ridiculous funding cuts on local government. While I am sympathetic towards the musical education of children I would prefer that the essentials are provided for first if we are as poor as the politicians in London tell us that we are.
Don't tell us, tell the Government in London who are imposing these ridiculous funding cuts on local government. While I am sympathetic towards the musical education of children I would prefer that the essentials are provided for first if we are as poor as the politicians in London tell us that we are. D Taylor

9:17am Fri 28 Dec 12

Davidian47 says...

I think the Argus may need to rethink its strategy here. petitions for this, petitions for that.

We would all sign a petiton for something or other if we feel strongly enough about it but the truth of the matter is that budgets are tight and cuts have to be made whether we like this or not.

We want free parking, we want the Gwent music service to survive but we all know that this isnt going to happen.

None of us dispute that this service, or any other provides a valuable input into young people lives but so do many many otherss.

South Wales Argus - try and see things from all sides and give a more balanced view.
I think the Argus may need to rethink its strategy here. petitions for this, petitions for that. We would all sign a petiton for something or other if we feel strongly enough about it but the truth of the matter is that budgets are tight and cuts have to be made whether we like this or not. We want free parking, we want the Gwent music service to survive but we all know that this isnt going to happen. None of us dispute that this service, or any other provides a valuable input into young people lives but so do many many otherss. South Wales Argus - try and see things from all sides and give a more balanced view. Davidian47

10:31am Fri 28 Dec 12

On the inside says...

remiquaver wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals?
Presumably that is £40,000 each as a lunch allowance. Don't forget the free rolls royce for each councillor and the corporate yacht they all get to use. Fool.
[quote][p][bold]remiquaver[/bold] wrote: I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals?[/p][/quote]Presumably that is £40,000 each as a lunch allowance. Don't forget the free rolls royce for each councillor and the corporate yacht they all get to use. Fool. On the inside

11:18am Fri 28 Dec 12

Howie' says...

Bobevans wrote:
It would take far more than yhat Gwent Music is like a black hole it burns through money like no tomorrow,
Yes Bob, you know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: It would take far more than yhat Gwent Music is like a black hole it burns through money like no tomorrow,[/p][/quote]Yes Bob, you know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Howie'

11:20am Fri 28 Dec 12

Howie' says...

Bobevans wrote:
SAo is the Argus which is so keen to spend other people money goinmg to foot the hvery high bill for Gwent Music & the Hree car parking any anything else is deems should be Free. I would guess not.


Would the Argus care to suggest bwhat taxes should be increased in Wales to pay for these things? I guess we bwill get silence from them on that as well
Can we have the English version,please? Thanks Bob!
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: SAo is the Argus which is so keen to spend other people money goinmg to foot the hvery high bill for Gwent Music & the Hree car parking any anything else is deems should be Free. I would guess not. Would the Argus care to suggest bwhat taxes should be increased in Wales to pay for these things? I guess we bwill get silence from them on that as well[/p][/quote]Can we have the English version,please? Thanks Bob! Howie'

11:59am Fri 28 Dec 12

Independentvoter says...

All councils are now forced to cut their budgets, but if you were an elected councillor and a service had to go, which one would you scrap first ? The Direct Payment Scheme which allows severely disabled persons a little help in their home or a part-funded music grant ?

The problem is this Council will eventually scrap both of them.

The Direct Payment Scheme is non-exsistent.

And to think that while these services are being cut or abolished some Councillors in Wales awarded themselves a pay rise.
All councils are now forced to cut their budgets, but if you were an elected councillor and a service had to go, which one would you scrap first ? The Direct Payment Scheme which allows severely disabled persons a little help in their home or a part-funded music grant ? The problem is this Council will eventually scrap both of them. The Direct Payment Scheme is non-exsistent. And to think that while these services are being cut or abolished some Councillors in Wales awarded themselves a pay rise. Independentvoter

1:00pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Mr Bump. says...

remiquaver wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals?
remiquaver wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is?

What utter drivel. It's not important at all, in the whole scheme of this, blowing a French Horn, strumming a banjo, tickling the ivories isn't a matter of life or death.
[quote][p][bold]remiquaver[/bold] wrote: I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? I've met some brilliant people and made many life-long friends through music. Not to mention learning the lessons of patience, determination and picking yourself up from a fall. It's very character building and more young people in this day and age could do with these characteristics. GMSS provides the platform on which these skills are built and I along with over 1,500 others can see this. What about the councillors who are paid stupid wages, how about they take a pay freeze or even, dare I say it, a cut? Many people not in the public sector are having to, so why not them? How about stopping the many perks that councillors receive? I heard not so long ago of a situation in Blaenau Gwent council (I believe) where they were having to vote on whether to keep the £40,000 a year lunch allowance they received, of course, they chose to keep it. I'm sure money could be saved in this sort of way at NCC, but they're not in it for the people. They call themselves Labour, though their community values seem to have gone astray, gone are the days when labour were for the average working class person. These cuts would set a precedent for other councils, and could be disastrous for the future of music in this country, for example, all film companies want the London Symphony Orchestra and other such orchestras to play their soundtracks because of how efficient and outstanding they are, thus bringing money back into the economy. Without the funding at grass roots level, what chance do we have of sustaining this? I was under the impression that labour's policy on economics was to spend more and reap the long term benefits. Surely these cuts would mould to Conservative ideals?[/p][/quote]remiquaver wrote: I'm extremely disappointed in some of the comments here. Do people not realise how important learning an instrument is? What utter drivel. It's not important at all, in the whole scheme of this, blowing a French Horn, strumming a banjo, tickling the ivories isn't a matter of life or death. Mr Bump.

1:01pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Mr Bump. says...

#things
#things Mr Bump.

6:17pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Sander9 says...

Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do.
Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do. Sander9

8:39pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Dolieboy says...

Charge £5 to park and have a calypso band on the tarmac of John Frost square.
Charge £5 to park and have a calypso band on the tarmac of John Frost square. Dolieboy

10:09pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Mr Bump. says...

Sander9 wrote:
Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do.
More utter drivel. My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners In fact they all have Jobs, (the one has two), to pay for their own leisure pursuits.
[quote][p][bold]Sander9[/bold] wrote: Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do.[/p][/quote]More utter drivel. My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners In fact they all have Jobs, (the one has two), to pay for their own leisure pursuits. Mr Bump.

11:20pm Fri 28 Dec 12

Sander9 says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
Sander9 wrote:
Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do.
More utter drivel. My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners In fact they all have Jobs, (the one has two), to pay for their own leisure pursuits.
"My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners" - Utter drivel. This service is provided to thousands of youngsters, just because your kids are well behaved doesnt stop them.
Lighten up, you're kids are lucky they've found a job. Not everyone can afford 'leisure pursuits' like your kids, GMSS provides opportunities for families who wouldn't even dream of music tuition. There's no arguing that services like Gwent music are giving youngsters something positive to do instead of all the bad press they get nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sander9[/bold] wrote: Newport is dying, Gwent music is one of very few things keeping it alive. It provides services to people of all ages and backgrounds. If the cuts are made and thousands of youngsters can no longer attend rehearsals & lessons don't complain if they're vandalizing and drinking on the streets with nothing to better to do.[/p][/quote]More utter drivel. My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners In fact they all have Jobs, (the one has two), to pay for their own leisure pursuits.[/p][/quote]"My kids don't play an instrument, they aren't drinking and vandalizing on street corners" - Utter drivel. This service is provided to thousands of youngsters, just because your kids are well behaved doesnt stop them. Lighten up, you're kids are lucky they've found a job. Not everyone can afford 'leisure pursuits' like your kids, GMSS provides opportunities for families who wouldn't even dream of music tuition. There's no arguing that services like Gwent music are giving youngsters something positive to do instead of all the bad press they get nowadays. Sander9

12:26pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Cwmderi says...

pinpong wrote:
How about we get rid of the welsh assembly then everyone could have music lessons
Pingpong
How about we get rid of all 22 councils in Wales and let the Senedd run the whole of Wales. Delete;
22 Chief Executives
22 Directors of Education
22 Etc, etc

And YES; 22 X (circ) 50 Councillors X (circa ave) £17,000 = £18million. That would pay for every authority area to have its own Music Service, Symphony Orchestra, County Opera, County Brass Band, County Youth Choirs and also somewhere for the redundant councillors to blow their own trumpets.

It would also meet the aspirations of most contributors on this site who would like to remove Bob Bright and his crew from office.
[quote][p][bold]pinpong[/bold] wrote: How about we get rid of the welsh assembly then everyone could have music lessons[/p][/quote]Pingpong How about we get rid of all 22 councils in Wales and let the Senedd run the whole of Wales. Delete; 22 Chief Executives 22 Directors of Education 22 Etc, etc And YES; 22 X (circ) 50 Councillors X (circa ave) £17,000 = £18million. That would pay for every authority area to have its own Music Service, Symphony Orchestra, County Opera, County Brass Band, County Youth Choirs and also somewhere for the redundant councillors to blow their own trumpets. It would also meet the aspirations of most contributors on this site who would like to remove Bob Bright and his crew from office. Cwmderi

5:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12

GogExile says...

The article, athough in support of GMSS, is a bit unconvincing. As a bit of an ignoramus on this subject, I would have liked to have seen what the money is actually spent on. I presume music is still taught in schools and they will have some stock of instruments? So, is this organisation independent of schools? Someone in the article says that 1000 children may have to give up music which, although genuinely sad, is not a decent argument because it implies that every child is propped up by £29,000 of subsidy. I'm not arguing for or against the proposals just, as a humble council tax payer, some facts rather than opinions would help me decide where I stand on the issue. As for the petition, well, sorry but 1500 people from 'across the UK' doesn't sound like a reasonable lobby for a third of a million pounds of Newport CC money.
The article, athough in support of GMSS, is a bit unconvincing. As a bit of an ignoramus on this subject, I would have liked to have seen what the money is actually spent on. I presume music is still taught in schools and they will have some stock of instruments? So, is this organisation independent of schools? Someone in the article says that 1000 children may have to give up music which, although genuinely sad, is not a decent argument because it implies that every child is propped up by £29,000 of subsidy. I'm not arguing for or against the proposals just, as a humble council tax payer, some facts rather than opinions would help me decide where I stand on the issue. As for the petition, well, sorry but 1500 people from 'across the UK' doesn't sound like a reasonable lobby for a third of a million pounds of Newport CC money. GogExile

7:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12

Dolieboy says...

Issue every school leaver with a flute, instead of robbing or vandalising they may feel the urge to play a tune.
Issue every school leaver with a flute, instead of robbing or vandalising they may feel the urge to play a tune. Dolieboy

1:54am Mon 31 Dec 12

PlainLauraJane says...

Independentvoter wrote:
All councils are now forced to cut their budgets, but if you were an elected councillor and a service had to go, which one would you scrap first ? The Direct Payment Scheme which allows severely disabled persons a little help in their home or a part-funded music grant ?

The problem is this Council will eventually scrap both of them.

The Direct Payment Scheme is non-exsistent.

And to think that while these services are being cut or abolished some Councillors in Wales awarded themselves a pay rise.
What about people like me? I started recorder lessons at the age of 5 and was soon encouraged by my tutor ( provided to my school by GMSS - Mr Linton, you're a genius) to pick up clarinet. That developed into Clarinet, Saxaphone, Drums, Vocal and Piano lessons all provided by GMSS. I played land of hope and glory with the Senior Wind Band at the Royal Albert Hall and even played in Disney. I went on to get a 1st degree and now work as a music therapist to help disabled people like you mention. Without GMSS music wouldn't have made an impact on my life or the 50 odd patients I see in my working week!
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: All councils are now forced to cut their budgets, but if you were an elected councillor and a service had to go, which one would you scrap first ? The Direct Payment Scheme which allows severely disabled persons a little help in their home or a part-funded music grant ? The problem is this Council will eventually scrap both of them. The Direct Payment Scheme is non-exsistent. And to think that while these services are being cut or abolished some Councillors in Wales awarded themselves a pay rise.[/p][/quote]What about people like me? I started recorder lessons at the age of 5 and was soon encouraged by my tutor ( provided to my school by GMSS - Mr Linton, you're a genius) to pick up clarinet. That developed into Clarinet, Saxaphone, Drums, Vocal and Piano lessons all provided by GMSS. I played land of hope and glory with the Senior Wind Band at the Royal Albert Hall and even played in Disney. I went on to get a 1st degree and now work as a music therapist to help disabled people like you mention. Without GMSS music wouldn't have made an impact on my life or the 50 odd patients I see in my working week! PlainLauraJane

1:05pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Carrot's says...

!300 signed the petition - by my maths that means 559,300 Gwent residents HAVENT signed the potition. Argument closed.
I play the piano - and was able to do so without the above service - even living in a council house!
!300 signed the petition - by my maths that means 559,300 Gwent residents HAVENT signed the potition. Argument closed. I play the piano - and was able to do so without the above service - even living in a council house! Carrot's

6:54pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Independentvoter says...

Plainlaurajane,

Firstly I have total respect for someone who can take the time to help and teach someone with a disability whether physical or learning.

I can see your personal point regarding the part funded grant that enabled you to eventually gain your skills to teach persons with disabilities.

However, The disabled people I am talking about cannot unfortunately enjoy or participate in these music lessons.

Because of the council's cuts, some people with severe disabilities are being denied the basic help to wash, dress,cook, take medication etc in their own homes through the direct payment scheme. All they want is a basic quality of life.

All Im saying is, do we give a grant for severely disabled people to have a music lesson and a flute or do we give a grant for severely disabled people to get the vital help for those unable to wash,dress,eat, unaided etc etc etc ?
Plainlaurajane, Firstly I have total respect for someone who can take the time to help and teach someone with a disability whether physical or learning. I can see your personal point regarding the part funded grant that enabled you to eventually gain your skills to teach persons with disabilities. However, The disabled people I am talking about cannot unfortunately enjoy or participate in these music lessons. Because of the council's cuts, some people with severe disabilities are being denied the basic help to wash, dress,cook, take medication etc in their own homes through the direct payment scheme. All they want is a basic quality of life. All Im saying is, do we give a grant for severely disabled people to have a music lesson and a flute or do we give a grant for severely disabled people to get the vital help for those unable to wash,dress,eat, unaided etc etc etc ? Independentvoter

11:33pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Grahaeme says...

GogExile wrote:
The article, athough in support of GMSS, is a bit unconvincing. As a bit of an ignoramus on this subject, I would have liked to have seen what the money is actually spent on. I presume music is still taught in schools and they will have some stock of instruments? So, is this organisation independent of schools? Someone in the article says that 1000 children may have to give up music which, although genuinely sad, is not a decent argument because it implies that every child is propped up by £29,000 of subsidy. I'm not arguing for or against the proposals just, as a humble council tax payer, some facts rather than opinions would help me decide where I stand on the issue. As for the petition, well, sorry but 1500 people from 'across the UK' doesn't sound like a reasonable lobby for a third of a million pounds of Newport CC money.
Maths obviously isn't your strong point.
[quote][p][bold]GogExile[/bold] wrote: The article, athough in support of GMSS, is a bit unconvincing. As a bit of an ignoramus on this subject, I would have liked to have seen what the money is actually spent on. I presume music is still taught in schools and they will have some stock of instruments? So, is this organisation independent of schools? Someone in the article says that 1000 children may have to give up music which, although genuinely sad, is not a decent argument because it implies that every child is propped up by £29,000 of subsidy. I'm not arguing for or against the proposals just, as a humble council tax payer, some facts rather than opinions would help me decide where I stand on the issue. As for the petition, well, sorry but 1500 people from 'across the UK' doesn't sound like a reasonable lobby for a third of a million pounds of Newport CC money.[/p][/quote]Maths obviously isn't your strong point. Grahaeme

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