Newport housing firm to create 20 jobs (From South Wales Argus)

Creating 20 local jobs? Please ask Mr Watts about the local carpenters his firm will be making redundant on 1st February to be replaced by outside contractors. What a boost to the local economy that will be.

Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

barrie wrote:
Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

Greenhill Construction are an up an coming construction company looking to build it's reputation within the social housing sector.I am sure they are working towards the best interest of all its permanant staff and treat all staff with respect and dignity.Mr Watts states that he as used the grant to employ local permanant staff and apprentices and not sub -contractors and I am sure he would be happy to clarify the above comments .Greenhill in their developement schemes always act fairly and in the interest of staff and their clients.Those members of staff or ex-employees who feel there are issues that need to be raised should do so appropriately.

barrie wrote:
Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

The company are are making the majority of it's carpenters redundant on their construction sites and replacing them with outside contractors. Therefore the creation of 20 jobs in Newport has to be compared to the number of local carpenters being made redundant.On the company's website it states that the company employs their workers directly, which contradicts what is actually happening on the construction sites.

Burning issues wrote:

barrie wrote:
Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

The company are are making the majority of it's carpenters redundant on their construction sites and replacing them with outside contractors. Therefore the creation of 20 jobs in Newport has to be compared to the number of local carpenters being made redundant.On the company's website it states that the company employs their workers directly, which contradicts what is actually happening on the construction sites.

Thats pretty much what I said

exposeu wrote:

barrie wrote:
Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

Greenhill Construction are an up an coming construction company looking to build it's reputation within the social housing sector.I am sure they are working towards the best interest of all its permanant staff and treat all staff with respect and dignity.Mr Watts states that he as used the grant to employ local permanant staff and apprentices and not sub -contractors and I am sure he would be happy to clarify the above comments .Greenhill in their developement schemes always act fairly and in the interest of staff and their clients.Those members of staff or ex-employees who feel there are issues that need to be raised should do so appropriately.

I have no doubt of the integrity of the company.
You mention "Mr Watts states that he as used the grant to employ local permanent staff and apprentices and not sub -contractors" yet the members of staff lad off were local (I believe permanent) staff and not sub contractors. This was what I meant by the net effect of the jobs.

I am nothing to do with the company, merely a tax payer.

*laid not lad

barrie wrote:

exposeu wrote:

barrie wrote:
Also it seems strange that the new jobs are in timber framing and he is laying off carpenters who work with timber.
I am assuming the grant received was on the proviso that jobs were created by the investment.
By then laying off existing workers surely the net effect is the creation of far fewer jobs so not fulfilling any obligations that could be in place for the grant.

Greenhill Construction are an up an coming construction company looking to build it's reputation within the social housing sector.I am sure they are working towards the best interest of all its permanant staff and treat all staff with respect and dignity.Mr Watts states that he as used the grant to employ local permanant staff and apprentices and not sub -contractors and I am sure he would be happy to clarify the above comments .Greenhill in their developement schemes always act fairly and in the interest of staff and their clients.Those members of staff or ex-employees who feel there are issues that need to be raised should do so appropriately.

I have no doubt of the integrity of the company.
You mention "Mr Watts states that he as used the grant to employ local permanent staff and apprentices and not sub -contractors" yet the members of staff lad off were local (I believe permanent) staff and not sub contractors. This was what I meant by the net effect of the jobs.

I am nothing to do with the company, merely a tax payer.

Business Minister Edwina Hart and the Welsh Assembly backed the expansion of Green Hill and the creation of local permanant employment by subsidising the company to allow for growth and the creation of local jobs.The Grant which was £146,650 is for the sole purpose of supporting the local economy.Grants are repayable if the purpose for which they are given is breached.What you appear to be saying is that Green Hill applied for the grant on the basis that they would support the local community and employ local skilled permanant staff ,yet after a short space of time they have then laid these skilled staff off and taken on self employed sub-contractors.It is not uncommon for some companies to lay off permanant staff and take on self employed sub-contractors as they do not have to pay them sick leave ,annual leave or honour work conditions and commitments.Hence reducing their operating costs.You could always raise your concerns with the Welsh Assembly and ask them to explain their decision to award the grant from the public purse to this company.You all pay taxes and if Green Hill can not justify their actions I am sure Edwina Hart in these times of Austerity will ask for the grant to be repaid.