‘Nothing off the table’ in £25m Newport cuts plan

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THE leader of Newport council says nothing is off the table as he prepares to present more than 100 proposals for four years’ worth of cuts and savings to the city.

They include raising council tax by five per cent every year for four years, Newport libraries closing for one day a week, shutting public toilets and ending the budget for the Newport Ship.

The council’s Labour cabinet will consider whether to put the plans – which include the 2014/15 budget as well as items that stretch to 2017/18 – out to public consultation on Thursday.

Altogether the authority – which has a budget of around £250 million a year – needs to save £25 million over four years with £10 million of cuts needed in 2014/15 alone.

Public meetings are set to be held to discuss the proposals which can all be viewed at the council’s website.

Newport is not alone in having to make difficult cuts because of the squeeze on public funding from the UK government , and councils across Gwent are having to save more than £50 million next year.

Most of Newport’s funding is channelled through the Welsh Government which is set to cut the authority’s grant by 1.2 per cent next year.

Meanwhile, demand is increasing for the authority’s services.

Bob Bright, Newport Council leader, said: “We are now at the stage where further cuts and radical changes to how services are delivered are inevitable however tough that may be.

“These budget proposals show that nothing is off the table. It is vitally important that people take part in this consultation and use this opportunity to share their views.”

Currently the financial plan factors in raising council tax by five per cent every year until 2018.

The authority could still close New Willows respite home – as proposed previously – by 2016. The closure of the day-care facility at Hillside could meanwhile save £799,000 by 2017.

Newport Ship’s budget will be reduced to nothing by 2016 with cuts of £245,000, although the council says it is committed to completing the conservation phase of the ship timbers.

Public council toilets with the exception of those at the new Market Square bus station and Austin Frairs could be closed in 2014/15, saving £137,000.

The Riverfront Theatre could be managed by a third-party organisation by April 1, 2016, saving £300,000.

Belle Vue Park bowling green, pavilion and changing chalet could become self-managed and be moved to the Belle Vue Park Bowling Club, saving £24,000.

Newport’s schools library service could end, while Newport Museum and central library could close one day a week in 2014/15.

One proposal would see no replacement equipment provided in children’s play areas. Equipment would be removed from areas in poor condition, which require significant investment to replace or are magnets for anti-social behaviour.

This may include the Outdoor Water Play Feature at Tredegar Park and two Multi Use Games Areas.

Alternative funding could be sought for the Big Splash event from 2015 onwards, saving £50,000. The event will not take place if funding cannot be found.

The authority could also look for sponsorship for the Newport Food Festival and Christmas events from 2015, while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.

Commercial pest control services could end, while the council may look to cease its CCTV service by 2017 unless it can make it cost no more than the revenue it generates. Funding for Tredegar House could be slashed by 2016/17 by £150,000 per year if visitor numbers reach 120,000 per year.

Spending on theatre arts and events may be reduced by £60,000 in 2014/15, while arts development work could be reduced to zero, saving £18,000 by April 1 2016.

Public meetings to discuss the budget proposals will be held on December 16 at Malpas Court’s Library and Drawing Room, December 18 at Newport Stadium’s John Charles Suite and January 16 in the Castle Room in Newport Centre.

There will be two time slots each day – noon to 2pm and 5pm to 7pm.

For more on the plans see Saturday’s Argus.

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9:34am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways

Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen

Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it

Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes

WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions
Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions Bobevans

9:38am Fri 6 Dec 13

Woodgnome says...

Bobevans wrote:
Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways

Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen

Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it

Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes

WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions
We wish but it's well known that Labour Councils in Wales don't like to share anything and like to control everything themselves. As long as Bright and his pals are there don't expect anything other than closing things that impact on the fewest and weakest,
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions[/p][/quote]We wish but it's well known that Labour Councils in Wales don't like to share anything and like to control everything themselves. As long as Bright and his pals are there don't expect anything other than closing things that impact on the fewest and weakest, Woodgnome

9:48am Fri 6 Dec 13

ncfcr says...

Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic.

With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result.

Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city.
Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic. With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result. Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city. ncfcr

9:51am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Woodgnome wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways

Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen

Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it

Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes

WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions
We wish but it's well known that Labour Councils in Wales don't like to share anything and like to control everything themselves. As long as Bright and his pals are there don't expect anything other than closing things that impact on the fewest and weakest,
The first thing they look at is cutting services and only as a last resort do they look at improving efficiency. Do e really need each council managing refuse collection and trading standards ands arts etc. These could be managed on a regional basis as could many functions such as council tax.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Little progress seems to have been made in reorganising the way Newport Council works. These cuts have been known about for over 3 years yet Newport Council has done little to change its ways Rather than just cutting service we need radical thinking as to how services are delivered and whilst Bob Bright is in charge I have no confidence at all that this will happen Service need to be shared with other local Councils particularly the back office type functions. There are huge savings that could be made but I see no desire by Newport Council to do this in fact they seem to wish to find reasons not to do it Look at the lack of progress made to date. The new financial year starts in April and they have done little to date. There should have been an on going programme of change since 2010 rather than a programme of trying to avoid making changes WE need someone that has real leadership qualities and can drive change through the dusty corridors of Newport Council and streamline how they operate and drive though big efficiency improvements which would include sharing services and back office functions[/p][/quote]We wish but it's well known that Labour Councils in Wales don't like to share anything and like to control everything themselves. As long as Bright and his pals are there don't expect anything other than closing things that impact on the fewest and weakest,[/p][/quote]The first thing they look at is cutting services and only as a last resort do they look at improving efficiency. Do e really need each council managing refuse collection and trading standards ands arts etc. These could be managed on a regional basis as could many functions such as council tax. Bobevans

10:34am Fri 6 Dec 13

merlin the silure says...

Bob Dim-try NOT borrowing 90 mil to give to a developer-that might help a little.
Bob Dim-try NOT borrowing 90 mil to give to a developer-that might help a little. merlin the silure

10:38am Fri 6 Dec 13

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

So, while the war in Afghanistan is costing the UK £15 million a day, we have to just accept this ideological onslaught from the right wing of Westminster, the tens of millions wasted on vanity projects at the WAG, and suffer getting kicked in the teeth by council representatives and officials, who all earn way over the average wage, telling us that although their paypackets are safe in this debacle, 'Nothing is off the table'.

Stop the world. I've had enough. I want to get off.
So, while the war in Afghanistan is costing the UK £15 million a day, we have to just accept this ideological onslaught from the right wing of Westminster, the tens of millions wasted on vanity projects at the WAG, and suffer getting kicked in the teeth by council representatives and officials, who all earn way over the average wage, telling us that although their paypackets are safe in this debacle, 'Nothing is off the table'. Stop the world. I've had enough. I want to get off. GardenVarietyMushroom

11:03am Fri 6 Dec 13

p stani says...

The council do not do a lot for the people of Newport, we can see that with our own eyes you only have to walk down your own street,So they should start saving money by cutting down on members of the council,there are to many of them on big salaries overseeing vey little,and then take a cut in salaries,how many of them actually wake up in the morning and think what can I do to make Newport a better place to live in,the answer is probably none,Shame on the lot of them,for wrecking a town that was so much better in the 80s.
The council do not do a lot for the people of Newport, we can see that with our own eyes you only have to walk down your own street,So they should start saving money by cutting down on members of the council,there are to many of them on big salaries overseeing vey little,and then take a cut in salaries,how many of them actually wake up in the morning and think what can I do to make Newport a better place to live in,the answer is probably none,Shame on the lot of them,for wrecking a town that was so much better in the 80s. p stani

11:23am Fri 6 Dec 13

ohc says...

I was in the town last Sunday. It looked like a tip, unswept, unwashed, weeds - everything to put off a return. Seedy and second class. Why not save money by sacking the jobs worth who is in charge of this?

I am ashamed of my home town
I was in the town last Sunday. It looked like a tip, unswept, unwashed, weeds - everything to put off a return. Seedy and second class. Why not save money by sacking the jobs worth who is in charge of this? I am ashamed of my home town ohc

11:47am Fri 6 Dec 13

bobmech1 says...

So they can borrow £90 million but has to cut £35 million
Something's wrong here
So they can borrow £90 million but has to cut £35 million Something's wrong here bobmech1

12:06pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Dragons fan says...

It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! Dragons fan

12:17pm Fri 6 Dec 13

ncfcr says...

Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping.

I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.
[quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping. I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight. ncfcr

12:37pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
They are just playing at it. If they were sharing services thousands of jobs could go. and services would improve
[quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]They are just playing at it. If they were sharing services thousands of jobs could go. and services would improve Bobevans

12:39pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Woodgnome says...

Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
You sound like an apologist NCC Labour Councillor.
[quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]You sound like an apologist NCC Labour Councillor. Woodgnome

12:39pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Woodgnome says...

Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
You sound like an apologist NCC Labour Councillor.
[quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]You sound like an apologist NCC Labour Councillor. Woodgnome

12:47pm Fri 6 Dec 13

whatintheworld says...

"the council may look to cease its CCTV service by 2017 unless it can make it cost no more than the revenue it generates."

- this sums it up really. unless it makes money, the council is not interested. they seem to completely ignore the benefits of some assets. cctv is there to cut crime, not raise revenue!

sharing back-room services with others on a regional basis is the best plan i've heard.

sacking councillors is probably the worst - it would save £tens of thousands at best and would only serve to placate those on these boards who still think that bob and his labour chums were responsible for a world-wide recession.
"the council may look to cease its CCTV service by 2017 unless it can make it cost no more than the revenue it generates." - this sums it up really. unless it makes money, the council is not interested. they seem to completely ignore the benefits of some assets. cctv is there to cut crime, not raise revenue! sharing back-room services with others on a regional basis is the best plan i've heard. sacking councillors is probably the worst - it would save £tens of thousands at best and would only serve to placate those on these boards who still think that bob and his labour chums were responsible for a world-wide recession. whatintheworld

12:54pm Fri 6 Dec 13

DavidMclean says...

ncfcr wrote:
Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic.

With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result.

Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city.
Absolutely spot on!

Actually pursuing ways of bringing revenue IN to the city is never considered. There are multiple revenue steams that could, and should, have been developed and defended a long time ago; from industrial and heritage tourism (ship, Transporter Bridge etc); to business revenue generated IF business was encouraged here and life made easy; to sports, entertainment and hospitality IF that was given any value.

But all this lot seem fixated with is making it easy for Starbucks et al to siphon money OUT of the area. The hypnotic effect of big name logos can't be underestimated with this council.
[quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic. With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result. Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on! Actually pursuing ways of bringing revenue IN to the city is never considered. There are multiple revenue steams that could, and should, have been developed and defended a long time ago; from industrial and heritage tourism (ship, Transporter Bridge etc); to business revenue generated IF business was encouraged here and life made easy; to sports, entertainment and hospitality IF that was given any value. But all this lot seem fixated with is making it easy for Starbucks et al to siphon money OUT of the area. The hypnotic effect of big name logos can't be underestimated with this council. DavidMclean

1:06pm Fri 6 Dec 13

_Bryan_ says...

They could save the best part of £1m straight away by not issuing the new smaller bins...
They could save the best part of £1m straight away by not issuing the new smaller bins... _Bryan_

1:14pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

The last figures I saw were that Newport Council employed 6500 people they out to be looking at getting t5he number down to about 5000 by having shared service and improving efficiency

Shared services needs to be enforced by the assembly. Left to their own devices the councils will not do it. WE could have one shared services unit for South East Wales things such as trading standards , management admin finance, council tax, call centre . purchasing, legal etc
The last figures I saw were that Newport Council employed 6500 people they out to be looking at getting t5he number down to about 5000 by having shared service and improving efficiency Shared services needs to be enforced by the assembly. Left to their own devices the councils will not do it. WE could have one shared services unit for South East Wales things such as trading standards , management admin finance, council tax, call centre . purchasing, legal etc Bobevans

2:04pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Casnewydd lad says...

I have a idea, stop the cuts and just put the rent up for the Celtic manor ground lease, it would be about time terry Matthews did something for the good of newport even if he is forced to
I have a idea, stop the cuts and just put the rent up for the Celtic manor ground lease, it would be about time terry Matthews did something for the good of newport even if he is forced to Casnewydd lad

2:13pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Mr Bump. says...

ncfcr wrote:
Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic.

With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result.

Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city.
Swansea council are thinking of selling off the liberty stadium to make ends meet.
[quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: Rather than cutting services, why not try and increase income? Taking out a loan of £100m to buy in shops that are available 5-10 miles anyway at the expense of investing into something that can generate income streams at home is pathetic. With a £30m loan, for example, you could've built a new sports arena for the City's rugby and football sides. Look at how Cardiff and Swansea have gone from strength to strength since their council's helped them out, and the local business community is now thriving at the weekends as a result. Always too busy thinking about today instead of tomorrow, and too busy pleasing outsiders rather than the people that actually live in YOUR city.[/p][/quote]Swansea council are thinking of selling off the liberty stadium to make ends meet. Mr Bump.

2:54pm Fri 6 Dec 13

regaturn says...

There are more city centre managers in Newport than it is possible to shake a stick at, so let's trim a few of those posts, quickly followed by reducing councillors expenses, the day and night time economy is a shadow of what it was 5 years ago, so why not cut back on the CCTV coverage?, and lastly can anyone inform us how much money Gwent Police contribute towards the CCTV unit running costs?
There are more city centre managers in Newport than it is possible to shake a stick at, so let's trim a few of those posts, quickly followed by reducing councillors expenses, the day and night time economy is a shadow of what it was 5 years ago, so why not cut back on the CCTV coverage?, and lastly can anyone inform us how much money Gwent Police contribute towards the CCTV unit running costs? regaturn

3:17pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Corda1983 says...

Very troubling.

I understand cuts have to be made, but frankly there isn't a way to cut £25 million and improve a town at the same time. And, since Newport is in dire need of improving, it makes you very concerned doesn't it?

I agree with the comments here. We really need to look at ways of raising revenue and making shrewd investment in the city, not simply how to delete lines off the budget. Any fool can take a red pen to the budget and claim it's the only way - and indeed that's what NCC are doing.

If we get rid of the public events, outsource the Riverfront, get rid of public toilets and essentially sell or cut most of our assets, where does that leave us? It might balance the books short-term, but it will gut us of what little we have and it will either be expensive or futile trying to get that stuff back in 5/10/15 years time.

Concerning stuff. Newport really is between a rock and a hard place these days. It's all well and good lamenting "tough times" and "difficult decisions " but nobody seems to be aware of the fact this town could become obliterated at this rate - it's not as easy as cutting stuff out of the budget. Sustainability and building a city centre is more important in the long term.
Very troubling. I understand cuts have to be made, but frankly there isn't a way to cut £25 million and improve a town at the same time. And, since Newport is in dire need of improving, it makes you very concerned doesn't it? I agree with the comments here. We really need to look at ways of raising revenue and making shrewd investment in the city, not simply how to delete lines off the budget. Any fool can take a red pen to the budget and claim it's the only way - and indeed that's what NCC are doing. If we get rid of the public events, outsource the Riverfront, get rid of public toilets and essentially sell or cut most of our assets, where does that leave us? It might balance the books short-term, but it will gut us of what little we have and it will either be expensive or futile trying to get that stuff back in 5/10/15 years time. Concerning stuff. Newport really is between a rock and a hard place these days. It's all well and good lamenting "tough times" and "difficult decisions " but nobody seems to be aware of the fact this town could become obliterated at this rate - it's not as easy as cutting stuff out of the budget. Sustainability and building a city centre is more important in the long term. Corda1983

4:13pm Fri 6 Dec 13

time2rise says...

Bobevans wrote:
The last figures I saw were that Newport Council employed 6500 people they out to be looking at getting t5he number down to about 5000 by having shared service and improving efficiency Shared services needs to be enforced by the assembly. Left to their own devices the councils will not do it. WE could have one shared services unit for South East Wales things such as trading standards , management admin finance, council tax, call centre . purchasing, legal etc
There used to be something just like that - Gwent County Council. Instead if four Directors of Education there was one, and it was the same for other services.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: The last figures I saw were that Newport Council employed 6500 people they out to be looking at getting t5he number down to about 5000 by having shared service and improving efficiency Shared services needs to be enforced by the assembly. Left to their own devices the councils will not do it. WE could have one shared services unit for South East Wales things such as trading standards , management admin finance, council tax, call centre . purchasing, legal etc[/p][/quote]There used to be something just like that - Gwent County Council. Instead if four Directors of Education there was one, and it was the same for other services. time2rise

4:14pm Fri 6 Dec 13

gathin says...

You've just borrowed how much against the citizens of NPT?
£90 MILLION £!
Now you want to bring in a £25m cut for poor, old town and her population?
Is this just one big, funny game to you scoundrels that "run" Newport?
(No time to check if this had already been stated by somebody else but had to comment on this despicable yet typical idea from the town council!)
You've just borrowed how much against the citizens of NPT? £90 MILLION £! Now you want to bring in a £25m cut for poor, old town and her population? Is this just one big, funny game to you scoundrels that "run" Newport? (No time to check if this had already been stated by somebody else but had to comment on this despicable yet typical idea from the town council!) gathin

4:16pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

I wonder what the the welsh language brigade and all those who supported the WAG now make of it that other areas are having to be cut to make for this stupidity . when they read of the millions just tipped away and laughed off ????
I wonder what the the welsh language brigade and all those who supported the WAG now make of it that other areas are having to be cut to make for this stupidity . when they read of the millions just tipped away and laughed off ???? scraptheWAG

4:23pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

that old fool bobby better not put up the council tax which would be the easiest option for them and come out with the old Labour line " Its due to cuts by the nasty coalition" while blowing millions on empty planes to anglesley, 17 million refit down the WAG a off 5 million reported yesterday on welsh language tripe.
that old fool bobby better not put up the council tax which would be the easiest option for them and come out with the old Labour line " Its due to cuts by the nasty coalition" while blowing millions on empty planes to anglesley, 17 million refit down the WAG a off 5 million reported yesterday on welsh language tripe. scraptheWAG

4:29pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers
Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers Bobevans

4:50pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

Bobevans wrote:
Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers
unfortunately they will cut carers for elderly and some front line services leaving a whole array of useless management posts .
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers[/p][/quote]unfortunately they will cut carers for elderly and some front line services leaving a whole array of useless management posts . scraptheWAG

5:03pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers
unfortunately they will cut carers for elderly and some front line services leaving a whole array of useless management posts .
I am sure they will . Council tax will go up 5% they will cut services and put up charges and Newport council will carry on in the same inefficient manner and will continue to waste massive amounts of money. Money that we cannot afford to have wasted
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers[/p][/quote]unfortunately they will cut carers for elderly and some front line services leaving a whole array of useless management posts .[/p][/quote]I am sure they will . Council tax will go up 5% they will cut services and put up charges and Newport council will carry on in the same inefficient manner and will continue to waste massive amounts of money. Money that we cannot afford to have wasted Bobevans

5:15pm Fri 6 Dec 13

33daverave says...

Bobevans wrote:
Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers
One senior figure told me they could cut the staff by a third and still function well due to present inneficiency.The Civic is a hotbed of waste on it's own.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Newport Council employees about 6,500 people that number needs to come down to about 5000 by sharing services and increasing efficiency. There is plenty of waste to cut out.. It is about a 15% cut in staff numbers[/p][/quote]One senior figure told me they could cut the staff by a third and still function well due to present inneficiency.The Civic is a hotbed of waste on it's own. 33daverave

5:43pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Mike0408 says...

IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT????

Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save??

i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically??

wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax??

wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there??
they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.''
to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet''

but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out?? Mike0408

5:56pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Mike0408 says...

Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT????

Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save??

i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically??

wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax??

wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there??
they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.''
to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet''

but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Also i have just read this on the argus
http://www.southwale
sargus.co.uk/news/10
861432.Newport_counc
il_cardboard_bags__t
o_be_weather_protect
ed_/?ref=var_0

they are now making new bags for cardboard, how much of the funding is wasted on this?? or is this going to save them money as it didn't say??
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Also i have just read this on the argus http://www.southwale sargus.co.uk/news/10 861432.Newport_counc il_cardboard_bags__t o_be_weather_protect ed_/?ref=var_0 they are now making new bags for cardboard, how much of the funding is wasted on this?? or is this going to save them money as it didn't say?? Mike0408

6:01pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Practicing Pragmatist says...

Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay Practicing Pragmatist

6:07pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Practicing Pragmatist says...

Easiest saving is to look at building costs - you have libraries, schools, adult learning centres, museum, community centres all in different buildings, sometimes yards away from each other and none of them are used to capacity. You wouldn't have to cut services or jobs (public sector is biggest employer in our area by the way - if they slashed jobs by 15% the whole economy would take another beating) but a lot of money could be saved in lighting, heating, maintenance etc. and the buildings could be sold off to create one-off revenue. But no-one wants to give an inch, we all have our 'favourite' services that we use and don't want to have any changes to, so we don't want suggest it. We need to think more radically and not just chop away at the edges of things - I don't think we even need to cut services we just need to be thinking in a different way.
Easiest saving is to look at building costs - you have libraries, schools, adult learning centres, museum, community centres all in different buildings, sometimes yards away from each other and none of them are used to capacity. You wouldn't have to cut services or jobs (public sector is biggest employer in our area by the way - if they slashed jobs by 15% the whole economy would take another beating) but a lot of money could be saved in lighting, heating, maintenance etc. and the buildings could be sold off to create one-off revenue. But no-one wants to give an inch, we all have our 'favourite' services that we use and don't want to have any changes to, so we don't want suggest it. We need to think more radically and not just chop away at the edges of things - I don't think we even need to cut services we just need to be thinking in a different way. Practicing Pragmatist

6:27pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra. Frank Howells 68

6:28pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Welshman76 says...

There are a few people here who seem to have good ideas. Will they put themselves forward at the next elections and put their proposals into practise and make them work?
There are a few people here who seem to have good ideas. Will they put themselves forward at the next elections and put their proposals into practise and make them work? Welshman76

6:33pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.[/p][/quote]No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits Bobevans

6:35pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT????

Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save??

i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically??

wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax??

wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there??
they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.''
to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet''

but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
There is no such thing as bedroom tax. Tax is what you pay on income EARNT not from handouts, therefore is cannot be a tax.
[quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as bedroom tax. Tax is what you pay on income EARNT not from handouts, therefore is cannot be a tax. Frank Howells 68

6:37pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

Bobevans wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits
Thanks for your misguided assumptions.

I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.[/p][/quote]No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits[/p][/quote]Thanks for your misguided assumptions. I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand. Frank Howells 68

6:37pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Valleymonkey says...

The WAG should stop spending so much on Cardiff - Cardiff has had everyone's share. Newport and the Gwent valleys need help.
The WAG should stop spending so much on Cardiff - Cardiff has had everyone's share. Newport and the Gwent valleys need help. Valleymonkey

6:38pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

Welshman76 wrote:
There are a few people here who seem to have good ideas. Will they put themselves forward at the next elections and put their proposals into practise and make them work?
what the point people in newport are addicted to benefits and handouts and thats why they vote for the party that has a special place in their hearts the labour party.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman76[/bold] wrote: There are a few people here who seem to have good ideas. Will they put themselves forward at the next elections and put their proposals into practise and make them work?[/p][/quote]what the point people in newport are addicted to benefits and handouts and thats why they vote for the party that has a special place in their hearts the labour party. scraptheWAG

6:40pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

Valleymonkey wrote:
The WAG should stop spending so much on Cardiff - Cardiff has had everyone's share. Newport and the Gwent valleys need help.
unfortunately the WAG know how ever little they do for newport starve it of money etc they are guaranteed two seats in the next election. Thats politics im afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Valleymonkey[/bold] wrote: The WAG should stop spending so much on Cardiff - Cardiff has had everyone's share. Newport and the Gwent valleys need help.[/p][/quote]unfortunately the WAG know how ever little they do for newport starve it of money etc they are guaranteed two seats in the next election. Thats politics im afraid. scraptheWAG

6:42pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits
Thanks for your misguided assumptions.

I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand.
yes it is lower than bristol etc but then wages in newport are lower and its alot more run down. Under labour council tax doubled!
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.[/p][/quote]No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits[/p][/quote]Thanks for your misguided assumptions. I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand.[/p][/quote]yes it is lower than bristol etc but then wages in newport are lower and its alot more run down. Under labour council tax doubled! scraptheWAG

7:32pm Fri 6 Dec 13

sunreader says...

It appears that Newport cannot be far away from closing down. I suspect that the end will come in mid to late 2014 when the Developer of the Friars Walk shopping area defaults on it's payments of the 90 million pounds loan that the council have guaranteed leaving them to pick up the costs. Nothing works in Newport. I've noticed that the Millennium Footbridge has been vandalised but remained unrepaired for close to nine months if not more,it's going to be expensive to put right. No one has ever turned up to do anything at the train station which I recall was described as a disgrace by members of the council, very accurate. What was the last place in Britain to shut completely or will Newport be the first?
It appears that Newport cannot be far away from closing down. I suspect that the end will come in mid to late 2014 when the Developer of the Friars Walk shopping area defaults on it's payments of the 90 million pounds loan that the council have guaranteed leaving them to pick up the costs. Nothing works in Newport. I've noticed that the Millennium Footbridge has been vandalised but remained unrepaired for close to nine months if not more,it's going to be expensive to put right. No one has ever turned up to do anything at the train station which I recall was described as a disgrace by members of the council, very accurate. What was the last place in Britain to shut completely or will Newport be the first? sunreader

7:42pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits
Thanks for your misguided assumptions.

I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand.
yes it is lower than bristol etc but then wages in newport are lower and its alot more run down. Under labour council tax doubled!
Why do you think you have to work in Newport to live and pay Council Tax here? Yes the wages are rubbish here but there is plenty of cash to be earned working not too far from here whilst still enjoying low Council Tax rates and house prices.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.[/p][/quote]No doubt you do not pay it. A good idea would be to replace it with a local income tax based on income from pay or benefits[/p][/quote]Thanks for your misguided assumptions. I pay my Council Tax in full every year within days of them sending me the demand.[/p][/quote]yes it is lower than bristol etc but then wages in newport are lower and its alot more run down. Under labour council tax doubled![/p][/quote]Why do you think you have to work in Newport to live and pay Council Tax here? Yes the wages are rubbish here but there is plenty of cash to be earned working not too far from here whilst still enjoying low Council Tax rates and house prices. Frank Howells 68

7:43pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol!
mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol! scraptheWAG

7:48pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol!
The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol![/p][/quote]The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work. Frank Howells 68

7:50pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Dragons fan says...

ncfcr wrote:
Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping.

I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.
If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact.
[quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping. I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.[/p][/quote]If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact. Dragons fan

7:55pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

Dragons fan wrote:
ncfcr wrote:
Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping.

I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.
If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact.
What's education got to do with anything? I don't think anyone has said Newport schools are failing.
[quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping. I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.[/p][/quote]If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact.[/p][/quote]What's education got to do with anything? I don't think anyone has said Newport schools are failing. Frank Howells 68

9:20pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
scraptheWAG wrote:
mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol!
The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work.
i have a job in bristol so am aware of the costs - I work as a accountant in Bristol found jobs easy to come by in Wales its mission impossible.
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol![/p][/quote]The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work.[/p][/quote]i have a job in bristol so am aware of the costs - I work as a accountant in Bristol found jobs easy to come by in Wales its mission impossible. scraptheWAG

9:27pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Dragons fan says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
Dragons fan wrote:
ncfcr wrote:
Dragons fan wrote:
It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping.

I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.
If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact.
What's education got to do with anything? I don't think anyone has said Newport schools are failing.
Not at present however if u cut services further we wont be able to continue the good work being done. we have been cut to the bone and can not afford to be cut further unless you wish for standards to slip. thats what the people making the decisions do not understand. i am sure there are further good examples throughout the council, but all people want to do us vad mouth us when all we do is our best with what we have which isnt much.
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dragons fan[/bold] wrote: It goes to show how little you people know on how the Council works and has been running for the last 5 years. Education has been collboaratively working with the neighbouring five authorities apart form Cardiff as they didn't want o be part of it for the last 3/4 years. We have lost over 50 staff which has made it very hard to ensure we meet all the statutory guidlines set for our young and sometimes vulnerble children. Don't start spurting off until you know the facts, come back when you are informed enough to discuss matters instead of ranting about how the Council is run and how these big changes will effect more than just those losing their jobs. It will have a massive effect on the young people of Newport who a lot of them have not had the best start in life and service cutting will have a major impact. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT![/p][/quote]Clearly there will be good things happening in amongst the bad - that is true of all organisations - but a Council will be judged by the people it represents on the strength of what it does for its citizens. The overwhelming evidence suggests that they are failing more people than they are helping. I'll get my facts straight when you get your idea of how to judge performance straight.[/p][/quote]If you want to judge performance just look at NCCs results from Estyn, that is how Education judges its performance and we are consrantl rated one of the best LAs in Wales. no more needs to be said. Thats a fact.[/p][/quote]What's education got to do with anything? I don't think anyone has said Newport schools are failing.[/p][/quote]Not at present however if u cut services further we wont be able to continue the good work being done. we have been cut to the bone and can not afford to be cut further unless you wish for standards to slip. thats what the people making the decisions do not understand. i am sure there are further good examples throughout the council, but all people want to do us vad mouth us when all we do is our best with what we have which isnt much. Dragons fan

9:39pm Fri 6 Dec 13

white white says...

Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
[quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance white white

9:48pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.
[quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar. Frank Howells 68

9:51pm Fri 6 Dec 13

scraptheWAG says...

white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
ok you might not get a spare room for your mates to stay over on the beer etc but can they not slum it on the sofa for one night !! but i suspect many are renting out room illegally
[quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]ok you might not get a spare room for your mates to stay over on the beer etc but can they not slum it on the sofa for one night !! but i suspect many are renting out room illegally scraptheWAG

9:51pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
scraptheWAG wrote:
mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol!
The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work.
i have a job in bristol so am aware of the costs - I work as a accountant in Bristol found jobs easy to come by in Wales its mission impossible.
Good for you. I despair at Newport people who expect to find work 5 minutes walk from their front door.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: mm the £100 a month you pay for the severn bridge TAG and the fifty pound a week in petrol![/p][/quote]The higher wages far compensate that. No need for a Tag either, you can pay per journey or if working in Gloucestershire you can avoid the bridge on the way home and not pay at all. Far too many people like you making excuses not to get off their behinds and find well paid work.[/p][/quote]i have a job in bristol so am aware of the costs - I work as a accountant in Bristol found jobs easy to come by in Wales its mission impossible.[/p][/quote]Good for you. I despair at Newport people who expect to find work 5 minutes walk from their front door. Frank Howells 68

10:04pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Practicing Pragmatist says...

white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
Look it up all councils have dhp fund to help people but they won't do it indefinitely they expect people to increase their income by getting a job or a better paid job, or reduce their outgoings which might mean moving to a smaller place. If you refuse to move(or do something else to change circumstances) they won't make up the difference because it isn't sustainable
[quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]Look it up all councils have dhp fund to help people but they won't do it indefinitely they expect people to increase their income by getting a job or a better paid job, or reduce their outgoings which might mean moving to a smaller place. If you refuse to move(or do something else to change circumstances) they won't make up the difference because it isn't sustainable Practicing Pragmatist

10:06pm Sat 7 Dec 13

rellim says...

What the hell is new here people ??? I worked for Newport Borough Council from 1977 to 1984 and all we as employees were told then was spending cuts spending cuts and spending cuts in the years that I worked for them services deteriorated, based on that past by now NBC should have got its house in order but alas no. I was back in Wales two years ago and Newport what a picture of neglect and despair. I will be there again August 2014 and I am fearful of what I may see.
My recommendation is that those of you with a bit of get up and go do exactly that GET UP AND GO I am sure that based on the Newport I saw you could get refugee status in some other country
What the hell is new here people ??? I worked for Newport Borough Council from 1977 to 1984 and all we as employees were told then was spending cuts spending cuts and spending cuts in the years that I worked for them services deteriorated, based on that past by now NBC should have got its house in order but alas no. I was back in Wales two years ago and Newport what a picture of neglect and despair. I will be there again August 2014 and I am fearful of what I may see. My recommendation is that those of you with a bit of get up and go do exactly that GET UP AND GO I am sure that based on the Newport I saw you could get refugee status in some other country rellim

10:47am Sun 8 Dec 13

Polish_lady says...

This need for saving and squeezing in local budgets is happening when House of Parliament announced 11% pay rise (according to Today's news). Certainly we are not all in it together.
I agree with the comments that the country cannot justify war in Afghanistan when failing to deliver basics services (healthcare and education) to it's own citizens. Whose interest does this war serves? CIA.
I agree that cuts should be implemented at the top first and all MPs and chief executives and any of public representatives should loose % of their wages as this will have no impact how their basics needs are sustained.

There are lots of questions which need to be asked on national level e.g why the Royal Mail was sold so cheap? And who pocketed money?

Also EU politic should be reviewed as money should follow according to people's migration.

I agree with the point that firstly we should be looking at reducing bureaucracy and run some of the services from above the local level. Certainly spending nearly £1 million to introduce new waste collecting system hasn't been thought through. Just fine those house holds who are not willing to recycle their waste or gratitude those who are doing it and more money will be earn that spent.
This need for saving and squeezing in local budgets is happening when House of Parliament announced 11% pay rise (according to Today's news). Certainly we are not all in it together. I agree with the comments that the country cannot justify war in Afghanistan when failing to deliver basics services (healthcare and education) to it's own citizens. Whose interest does this war serves? CIA. I agree that cuts should be implemented at the top first and all MPs and chief executives and any of public representatives should loose % of their wages as this will have no impact how their basics needs are sustained. There are lots of questions which need to be asked on national level e.g why the Royal Mail was sold so cheap? And who pocketed money? Also EU politic should be reviewed as money should follow according to people's migration. I agree with the point that firstly we should be looking at reducing bureaucracy and run some of the services from above the local level. Certainly spending nearly £1 million to introduce new waste collecting system hasn't been thought through. Just fine those house holds who are not willing to recycle their waste or gratitude those who are doing it and more money will be earn that spent. Polish_lady

7:55pm Sun 8 Dec 13

white white says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.
Did ever occur to you that the spare room
Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over
On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks .
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.[/p][/quote]Did ever occur to you that the spare room Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks . white white

11:42pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Spinflight says...

How about we cut councillor's perks first and then see where we are?
How about we cut councillor's perks first and then see where we are? Spinflight

11:48pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Frank Howells 68 says...

white white wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.
Did ever occur to you that the spare room
Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over
On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks .
Well if you've found a job then happy days. You have nothing to worry about do you, now that you aren't reliant on handouts from taxpayers?
[quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.[/p][/quote]Did ever occur to you that the spare room Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks .[/p][/quote]Well if you've found a job then happy days. You have nothing to worry about do you, now that you aren't reliant on handouts from taxpayers? Frank Howells 68

12:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

People are wandering off onto other issues. What Newport Council needs to do is to radically change the way it works and to become a lot smaller.

You cannot keep just cutting services and putting up charges it will not work.

There is massive scope to cut costs. Do we need to have each tiny little local Council manage refuse collection for example? Why not have a South East Wales Regional Waste Collection service you cut out a lot of management and admin. The bulk purchasing of dust carts & the maintainance of them should reduce costs. It should also be possible to slightly reduce the number of depots needed.
People are wandering off onto other issues. What Newport Council needs to do is to radically change the way it works and to become a lot smaller. You cannot keep just cutting services and putting up charges it will not work. There is massive scope to cut costs. Do we need to have each tiny little local Council manage refuse collection for example? Why not have a South East Wales Regional Waste Collection service you cut out a lot of management and admin. The bulk purchasing of dust carts & the maintainance of them should reduce costs. It should also be possible to slightly reduce the number of depots needed. Bobevans

6:41am Tue 10 Dec 13

white white says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
white white wrote:
Frank Howells 68 wrote:
white white wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Mike0408 wrote:
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??
Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay
Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning
B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming
Child allowance, any body else you have no chance
So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.
Did ever occur to you that the spare room
Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over
On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks .
Well if you've found a job then happy days. You have nothing to worry about do you, now that you aren't reliant on handouts from taxpayers?
You are really. Really out of touch with reality. ,before I got
This job I was working from 1976-2012. Yes I was on jsa
A part from a series of courses , the benefit I had was housing
And has, the jsa I received was 63.pounds a week and that's was it
Out if that I had normal bills and food,the council decided I would pay
£11 a week so I had £52 it mind sound a lot but with said bills
Water,gas,electric,t
v,license and stuff for my kids it was hard
I have never smoked,or taken drugs and don't drink socially , but I have
Paid tax and nhs all my working life ,so before you look down on people and sneer ,and misjudged people think first before you comnent
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike0408[/bold] wrote: IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT OF NEWPORT???? Why not put all the council member's on minimum wage for 4 years??, no bonuses for anyone for 4 years?? i wonder how much that would save?? i would like to know how much money they are making when they took away the free parking?? surely that has increased their budget dramatically?? wonder how much money they are saving with the bedroom tax as well?? i didnt see them mention how much they was getting with that and WHO is going to be able to pay an extra 20% council tax rises when they cant afford the bedroom tax?? wonder how much money was spent with the Christmas light coming on this year (with all the fireworks and stuff)?? if they didn't bother with the fireworks and all the other stuff they did, then surely they could have saved allot of money there?? they say ''while sponsorship for the Christmas lights from next year could also be sought.'' to me that sounds like they are saying '' it was perfectly fine for us to spend all this money on the lights/fireworks this year as the cuts are not here yet, so no need to act yet'' but hey i am sure if these Councillors are that determined about saving money, then surely they will accept a pay cut to help the city out??[/p][/quote]Bedroom tax is DWP nothing to do with Local Authorities - although Local Authorities do subsidise when people can't afford to pay[/p][/quote]Newport cc will NOT assist anyone concerning B tax. Unless you want to down size or claiming Child allowance, any body else you have no chance[/p][/quote]So they shouldn't. Newport Council have no obligation to kow-tow to the workshy. If you are living in a property which is clearly oversized for you, which has already been paid for by decent, hard working taxpayers then why should we be paying for you to have extra bedrooms? It really beggars belief. Get off your lazy behinds and work like the rest of us. There is plenty of work out there, anyone who says there isn't is a liar.[/p][/quote]Did ever occur to you that the spare room Isn't a spare room ,but my kids that stay over On weekends ,most of all found a job thanks .[/p][/quote]Well if you've found a job then happy days. You have nothing to worry about do you, now that you aren't reliant on handouts from taxpayers?[/p][/quote]You are really. Really out of touch with reality. ,before I got This job I was working from 1976-2012. Yes I was on jsa A part from a series of courses , the benefit I had was housing And has, the jsa I received was 63.pounds a week and that's was it Out if that I had normal bills and food,the council decided I would pay £11 a week so I had £52 it mind sound a lot but with said bills Water,gas,electric,t v,license and stuff for my kids it was hard I have never smoked,or taken drugs and don't drink socially , but I have Paid tax and nhs all my working life ,so before you look down on people and sneer ,and misjudged people think first before you comnent white white

4:08pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Amanda40 says...

Frank Howells 68 wrote:
They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.
Speak for yourself!! I work full time I have not had a pay rise in 7 years while the fat greedy owners has extentions, swimming pools, kitchens and bathrooms for the whole family on the COMPANY!!! I am just about keeping my head above water!! If the cost of living keeps on going I will not be able to afford to go to work let alone pay more COUNCIL TAX. I would be better off sat on my backside on the dole!!! At least I might get a bloody holiday somewhere warm!!!
[quote][p][bold]Frank Howells 68[/bold] wrote: They should increase Council Tax. Newport is amongst the lowest in the UK anyway, we can easily afford to pay extra.[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself!! I work full time I have not had a pay rise in 7 years while the fat greedy owners has extentions, swimming pools, kitchens and bathrooms for the whole family on the COMPANY!!! I am just about keeping my head above water!! If the cost of living keeps on going I will not be able to afford to go to work let alone pay more COUNCIL TAX. I would be better off sat on my backside on the dole!!! At least I might get a bloody holiday somewhere warm!!! Amanda40

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