Violent gang leader Britain failed to deport is living in Newport

South Wales Argus: IN NEWPORT: Gang leader Joland Giwa IN NEWPORT: Gang leader Joland Giwa

A VIOLENT gang leader from London has been ordered to live in Newport, after the Home Office failed to kick him out of the UK, the Argus can reveal today.

Joland Giwa, General of Croydon’s largest criminal gang, Don’t Say Nothing, has been sent to live in York Place, Newport after being released from immigration detention.

Giwa – whose street name is Dexter- had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two convicted robberies.

On October 22, 2013, High Court Judge John Keyser rejected a legal bid from Joland Giwa, 24, for freedom on the grounds he posed a "significant risk" of reoffending.

But Judge Keyser ruled it would be illegal to detain Giwa beyond the following three months amid a struggle to prove his true nationality.

Unable to deport him in the three months given, the Home Office were forced to release the gang member and bail was granted in December, on condition he live and sleep at the Newport address.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We vigorously opposed this individual's application for bail and we are very disappointed by the court's decision.

"He will be subject to rigorous monitoring, including an electronic tag, and we are continuing to fight for his removal from the UK."

In March 2011 Giwa was transferred to the high security Belmarsh prison, after intelligence suggested he was involved in an operation, said to be run by the DSN gang, smuggling drugs into the detention centre.

Key DSN gang members were jailed during 2008 and 2009 after a year-long operation by a Metropolitan Police gangs unit led by Sergeant Darin [CORR] Birmingham, who said: "Joland Giwa is a serious threat to the public and other young people.

“It is well known on the streets of Croydon that he has been charged with numerous offences but witnesses will not assist at court or pursuing allegations through fear.”

In a video posted on YouTube which was shown in court, made when Giwa was 15 or 16-years-old, the gang boss boasts: “I’m a bad boy. I’ve shanked a man in the ******* head. I’ve shanked a man in the neck.

“DSNG I am the ******* General.”

Giwa, who was jailed for a string of robberies, has no identity documents but says he is from Sierra Leone.

However, Sierra Leone refuses to recognise him as a national and maintains he is Nigerian, a claim which is refuted by Nigeria.

Giwa and his twin brother arrived in the UK on a flight from Nigeria in 1999, aged ten. They flew without a guardian and their parents are believed to be dead.

Giwa's' convictions include handling stolen goods, robbery, and theft.

According to the bail conditions, Giwa must report to the UK Border Agency in Cardiff twice every week.

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9:08am Sat 18 Jan 14

gathin says...

I'm sure he'll feel right at home in good old Pooport!
Why can't he just be sent back to SL?
Why are we wasting more of our rapidly wasted taxpayers money on him?
Can't the politicians just give him a bedsit in the house of commons?
Again he'd feel at home there too..........
I'm sure he'll feel right at home in good old Pooport! Why can't he just be sent back to SL? Why are we wasting more of our rapidly wasted taxpayers money on him? Can't the politicians just give him a bedsit in the house of commons? Again he'd feel at home there too.......... gathin

9:29am Sat 18 Jan 14

WELSH BUDDAH says...

Its all silly political and downright stupidity why on earth can't they just get rid of this ****. All this money and time wasted on these people who cause so much misery but it only the taxpayers money. Their are people in the UK living in poverty and homeless we send so much overseas aid our own country is falling apart. They should get the services to get rid of these people if that is the only way.
Its all silly political and downright stupidity why on earth can't they just get rid of this ****. All this money and time wasted on these people who cause so much misery but it only the taxpayers money. Their are people in the UK living in poverty and homeless we send so much overseas aid our own country is falling apart. They should get the services to get rid of these people if that is the only way. WELSH BUDDAH

9:34am Sat 18 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Dai Rear wrote:
His DNA is on record. That should settle the issue of his provenance. He can then be returned whence he came and the receiving country be told that if it wants to keep getting bungs for its dictators to build palaces and buy Mercs (Cameron's "overseas aid") then they'll wind their necks in about it.
In the event of doubt-cross tribal DNA-then since Nigeria let him travel as a small child, unaccompanied, they can have him back for their total disinterest in children's' welfare.
All true but, in a similar case last month, the Nigerian authorities refused a plane to land from Britain as there was an unwanted deportee (Isa Muazu) on it. I'd have slung him out with a parachute he'd packed himself personally but some of our politicians are a bit sensitive. He's back here too being fed and watered at our expense too. Agree that the insane aid budget could be used as leverage. Good idea.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: His DNA is on record. That should settle the issue of his provenance. He can then be returned whence he came and the receiving country be told that if it wants to keep getting bungs for its dictators to build palaces and buy Mercs (Cameron's "overseas aid") then they'll wind their necks in about it. In the event of doubt-cross tribal DNA-then since Nigeria let him travel as a small child, unaccompanied, they can have him back for their total disinterest in children's' welfare.[/p][/quote]All true but, in a similar case last month, the Nigerian authorities refused a plane to land from Britain as there was an unwanted deportee (Isa Muazu) on it. I'd have slung him out with a parachute he'd packed himself personally but some of our politicians are a bit sensitive. He's back here too being fed and watered at our expense too. Agree that the insane aid budget could be used as leverage. Good idea. Llanmartinangel

9:48am Sat 18 Jan 14

cjwales1 says...

Rumour has it he has been offered a job as Head of Security at the new Deb'nums :)
Rumour has it he has been offered a job as Head of Security at the new Deb'nums :) cjwales1

9:49am Sat 18 Jan 14

Stevenboy says...

Of course the unseen part of this story is the posse of legal aided human rights lawyers (you know the bunch of taxpayer funded people in gowns who went on strike because they are starving) who are no doubt trying to get him a UK passport.
Of course the unseen part of this story is the posse of legal aided human rights lawyers (you know the bunch of taxpayer funded people in gowns who went on strike because they are starving) who are no doubt trying to get him a UK passport. Stevenboy

9:55am Sat 18 Jan 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"Joland Giwa, General of Croydon’s largest criminal gang, Don’t Say Nothing"

I wonder if Mr...er sorry, *General* Giwa knows that above the title of his gang is grammatically incorrect as it should actually be: 'Don't Say Anything'?

Second question: um...I wonder if there's anyone still alive who had the guts to tell him?!
"Joland Giwa, General of Croydon’s largest criminal gang, Don’t Say Nothing" I wonder if Mr...er sorry, *General* Giwa knows that above the title of his gang is grammatically incorrect as it should actually be: 'Don't Say Anything'? Second question: um...I wonder if there's anyone still alive who had the guts to tell him?! Katie Re-Registered

10:22am Sat 18 Jan 14

welshlad26 says...

so someone who is deemed a "serious threat to the public and younger people" is left to live in place which is a 5 minute walk to a kids school and a comprehensive school, who has been in prison for robbery and drug smuggling is left to live in the community. Dont you just love this country. i know there are probably worse people out there, but when you write a story on it, and publicing it, it makes it worse knowing about it than not knowing about it. they could at least put a picture up of him so we know who to avoid and look out for
so someone who is deemed a "serious threat to the public and younger people" is left to live in place which is a 5 minute walk to a kids school and a comprehensive school, who has been in prison for robbery and drug smuggling is left to live in the community. Dont you just love this country. i know there are probably worse people out there, but when you write a story on it, and publicing it, it makes it worse knowing about it than not knowing about it. they could at least put a picture up of him so we know who to avoid and look out for welshlad26

10:23am Sat 18 Jan 14

Magor says...

Why Newport? They could have kept him in England.
Why Newport? They could have kept him in England. Magor

10:36am Sat 18 Jan 14

kez1968 says...

why is this country so weak when it comes to deporting scum bags, what actually do these people bring to this country, that benefits all of us, why arnt we just sticking these people on a plane and dropping them off back in there countries of origin. people bleat on about there human rights, well if I had my way I would drop them off at 20000 feet, unfortunately we don't do that, but they abused there right to our country so they should lose ALL there rights.
why is this country so weak when it comes to deporting scum bags, what actually do these people bring to this country, that benefits all of us, why arnt we just sticking these people on a plane and dropping them off back in there countries of origin. people bleat on about there human rights, well if I had my way I would drop them off at 20000 feet, unfortunately we don't do that, but they abused there right to our country so they should lose ALL there rights. kez1968

10:39am Sat 18 Jan 14

jaggededge says...

That's says it all about Newport a dumping ground for the rubbish of society
That's says it all about Newport a dumping ground for the rubbish of society jaggededge

11:16am Sat 18 Jan 14

cath 872 says...

Welshlad 26 - there is a photo of this guy on the front of today's Argus
Welshlad 26 - there is a photo of this guy on the front of today's Argus cath 872

11:22am Sat 18 Jan 14

macbumble says...

If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries. macbumble

12:00pm Sat 18 Jan 14

County says...

macbumble wrote:
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.
[quote][p][bold]macbumble[/bold] wrote: If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.[/p][/quote]This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do. County

12:01pm Sat 18 Jan 14

County says...

By all means lock him up but take the costs out of Sierra Leone's aid budget; £46 million last time I checked.
By all means lock him up but take the costs out of Sierra Leone's aid budget; £46 million last time I checked. County

12:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

sperduti says...

Magor wrote:
Why Newport? They could have kept him in England.
exactly!!!!!!!! boot him out now no questions other countries would!!
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: Why Newport? They could have kept him in England.[/p][/quote]exactly!!!!!!!! boot him out now no questions other countries would!! sperduti

12:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

portman says...

GET THIS SCUM BAG OUTTA HERE
GET THIS SCUM BAG OUTTA HERE portman

12:08pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ncfcr says...

County wrote:
macbumble wrote:
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.
Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.
[quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macbumble[/bold] wrote: If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.[/p][/quote]This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.[/p][/quote]Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK. ncfcr

12:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

County says...

ncfcr wrote:
County wrote:
macbumble wrote:
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.
Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.
Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK.
[quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macbumble[/bold] wrote: If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.[/p][/quote]This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.[/p][/quote]Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.[/p][/quote]Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK. County

12:30pm Sat 18 Jan 14

brynglas says...

County wrote:
ncfcr wrote:
County wrote:
macbumble wrote:
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.
Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.
Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK.
@ncfcr

Does this "higher percentage of non-whites" you cite include the indigenous Australian peoples ("Aborigines")? What is your point? What does a person's colour have to do with anything?
[quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macbumble[/bold] wrote: If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.[/p][/quote]This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.[/p][/quote]Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.[/p][/quote]Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK.[/p][/quote]@ncfcr Does this "higher percentage of non-whites" you cite include the indigenous Australian peoples ("Aborigines")? What is your point? What does a person's colour have to do with anything? brynglas

12:41pm Sat 18 Jan 14

rightsideup says...

Flatholm or Steepholm seems more appropriate for him!.....
Flatholm or Steepholm seems more appropriate for him!..... rightsideup

12:42pm Sat 18 Jan 14

cannicky says...

It is all so very ominous. On a resent visit to Bath Spa. I struck up a conversation with an elderly gentleman. When mentioning that I was from Newport, south Wales, his instant reply was, "a very rough place Newport". It is no surprize at all, that the English are dumping their local rubbish in Newport.
It is all so very ominous. On a resent visit to Bath Spa. I struck up a conversation with an elderly gentleman. When mentioning that I was from Newport, south Wales, his instant reply was, "a very rough place Newport". It is no surprize at all, that the English are dumping their local rubbish in Newport. cannicky

12:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

County
I bet Aus and NZ don't have EU immis flooding-in there or undesireables like this dangerous hoodlum. Be more realistic, they are not as daft as this country.
County I bet Aus and NZ don't have EU immis flooding-in there or undesireables like this dangerous hoodlum. Be more realistic, they are not as daft as this country. Banjalucka

12:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Newport Spark says...

You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us.
You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us. Newport Spark

1:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

paul m roberts says...

There is a definite trend of dumping England's unwanted in Wales and our housing associations are complicit in this. Problem families from big English cities are finding their way to random parts of Wales. There are loads up the valleys in social housing having been out there. Ex cons from Manchester and Liverpool being put in small villages in Snowdonia. London's councils moving disabled and homeless people into social housing in Wales whilst the locals languish on the waiting lists.
There is a definite trend of dumping England's unwanted in Wales and our housing associations are complicit in this. Problem families from big English cities are finding their way to random parts of Wales. There are loads up the valleys in social housing having been out there. Ex cons from Manchester and Liverpool being put in small villages in Snowdonia. London's councils moving disabled and homeless people into social housing in Wales whilst the locals languish on the waiting lists. paul m roberts

1:13pm Sat 18 Jan 14

johnny doh! says...

Another 'victory' for the humans rights brigade.....what of the human rights of the general law abiding populace not to have to live with these scumbags. No doubt he will go on to reoffend and may injure or kill somone in the process and they will shrug their shoulders and ask 'how did this happen'
Another 'victory' for the humans rights brigade.....what of the human rights of the general law abiding populace not to have to live with these scumbags. No doubt he will go on to reoffend and may injure or kill somone in the process and they will shrug their shoulders and ask 'how did this happen' johnny doh!

1:37pm Sat 18 Jan 14

sunrise123 says...

Just what Newport needs. Joke
Just what Newport needs. Joke sunrise123

1:44pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

paul m roberts wrote:
There is a definite trend of dumping England's unwanted in Wales and our housing associations are complicit in this. Problem families from big English cities are finding their way to random parts of Wales. There are loads up the valleys in social housing having been out there. Ex cons from Manchester and Liverpool being put in small villages in Snowdonia. London's councils moving disabled and homeless people into social housing in Wales whilst the locals languish on the waiting lists.
If that is right what your saying, (wondering where you got the info from ) then look's like Wales is the dumping ground for rubbish England does not want.. Courtesy of Westminster ?, maybe because we in Wales come out with the majority as LABOUR in the voting poles ?
[quote][p][bold]paul m roberts[/bold] wrote: There is a definite trend of dumping England's unwanted in Wales and our housing associations are complicit in this. Problem families from big English cities are finding their way to random parts of Wales. There are loads up the valleys in social housing having been out there. Ex cons from Manchester and Liverpool being put in small villages in Snowdonia. London's councils moving disabled and homeless people into social housing in Wales whilst the locals languish on the waiting lists.[/p][/quote]If that is right what your saying, (wondering where you got the info from ) then look's like Wales is the dumping ground for rubbish England does not want.. Courtesy of Westminster ?, maybe because we in Wales come out with the majority as LABOUR in the voting poles ? Jonnytrouble

1:45pm Sat 18 Jan 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

may i suggest that this unfortunate individual , be moved to Witney , Oxfordshire or Sheffield Hallam , so that David Cameron and Nick Clegg can have the joys of his company , and be able to run into him into their high street !!! . instead of the good people of Newport . this action by the Courts of Britain stinks . " move him anywhere as long as its not on my doorstep " well we DON'T Want him EITHER !!!!!
may i suggest that this unfortunate individual , be moved to Witney , Oxfordshire or Sheffield Hallam , so that David Cameron and Nick Clegg can have the joys of his company , and be able to run into him into their high street !!! . instead of the good people of Newport . this action by the Courts of Britain stinks . " move him anywhere as long as its not on my doorstep " well we DON'T Want him EITHER !!!!! disgruntled taxpayer

1:49pm Sat 18 Jan 14

bugsy93 says...

If he's residing in local authority housing should'nt the council or housing authority have a say on who they have in their properties,after all there are probably a lot of genuine local people on the housing list waiting for properties to become available.
If he's residing in local authority housing should'nt the council or housing authority have a say on who they have in their properties,after all there are probably a lot of genuine local people on the housing list waiting for properties to become available. bugsy93

1:50pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

Take a look at

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/i
mmigration/10397740/
Violent-gang-leader-
must-be-freed-judge-
rules.html

And

http://www.southwale
s-eveningpost.co.uk/
Violent-gang-leader-
Joland-Giwa-living-W
ales/story-20454104-
detail/story.html

There's lots on you tube too.

Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go.
Take a look at http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/i mmigration/10397740/ Violent-gang-leader- must-be-freed-judge- rules.html And http://www.southwale s-eveningpost.co.uk/ Violent-gang-leader- Joland-Giwa-living-W ales/story-20454104- detail/story.html There's lots on you tube too. Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go. Practicalmickey

1:56pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

'Breaking news' I think not Argus, this was on the 'south wales evening post' site 2 days ago.
'Breaking news' I think not Argus, this was on the 'south wales evening post' site 2 days ago. Practicalmickey

2:04pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

I think you'll find other media have reported he was somewhere in Wales. Our report reveals exactly where he is, which is why it is news for our readers.
I think you'll find other media have reported he was somewhere in Wales. Our report reveals exactly where he is, which is why it is news for our readers. Kevin Ward - Editor

2:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

bugsy93 says...

Not being racist, but if you look at the amount of non- British serious criminals that the Crimewatch programme are desperate to track down, then the criminal problems that we are experiencing speaks for itself.
They are probably trying to round them up and send them to Newport.
Not being racist, but if you look at the amount of non- British serious criminals that the Crimewatch programme are desperate to track down, then the criminal problems that we are experiencing speaks for itself. They are probably trying to round them up and send them to Newport. bugsy93

2:11pm Sat 18 Jan 14

billieboy says...

What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety?
Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk
What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety? Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk billieboy

2:12pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Whatstheproblem says...

Do the authorities really think he's going to stick to his bail conditions by reporting to the border agency in Cardiff every 2 weeks? Pahahaha
Do the authorities really think he's going to stick to his bail conditions by reporting to the border agency in Cardiff every 2 weeks? Pahahaha Whatstheproblem

2:13pm Sat 18 Jan 14

billieboy says...

What were the grounds for relocating this person to Newport when the crimes were committed in London? Who made this decision? Why has he be located in a residential area? What strategies have been put into place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety? What channels are you now pursing to ensure that this individual is deported? contact Theresa May directly mayt@parliament.uk
What were the grounds for relocating this person to Newport when the crimes were committed in London? Who made this decision? Why has he be located in a residential area? What strategies have been put into place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety? What channels are you now pursing to ensure that this individual is deported? contact Theresa May directly mayt@parliament.uk billieboy

2:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Pill bank lane says...

Contact your Councillor ,sick of Newport being the easy option because we don't complain. http://services.newp
ort.gov.uk/.../conta
ct_your_councillor
Contact your Councillor ,sick of Newport being the easy option because we don't complain. http://services.newp ort.gov.uk/.../conta ct_your_councillor Pill bank lane

2:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

He first got into trouble with the police in 2002, but was granted indefinite leave to remain in Britain in 2005. Presumably this was when the previous government thought any immigration was better than no immigration because they contribute to our economy?
He first got into trouble with the police in 2002, but was granted indefinite leave to remain in Britain in 2005. Presumably this was when the previous government thought any immigration was better than no immigration because they contribute to our economy? Llanmartinangel

3:03pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
I think you'll find other media have reported he was somewhere in Wales. Our report reveals exactly where he is, which is why it is news for our readers.
How terrible of the South Wales evening post to report early.
Shame the argus don't provide better coverage of important news, 'dog returns after 10 years from home', I wonder how many readers were interested.
I'm sure the story about violent gang leader in Wales would have been worthy of a headline.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: I think you'll find other media have reported he was somewhere in Wales. Our report reveals exactly where he is, which is why it is news for our readers.[/p][/quote]How terrible of the South Wales evening post to report early. Shame the argus don't provide better coverage of important news, 'dog returns after 10 years from home', I wonder how many readers were interested. I'm sure the story about violent gang leader in Wales would have been worthy of a headline. Practicalmickey

3:09pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

billieboy wrote:
What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety?
Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk
Maybe the Argus could contact the police and ask.
[quote][p][bold]billieboy[/bold] wrote: What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety? Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk[/p][/quote]Maybe the Argus could contact the police and ask. Practicalmickey

3:25pm Sat 18 Jan 14

billieboy says...

Practicalmickey wrote:
billieboy wrote:
What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety?
Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk
Maybe the Argus could contact the police and ask.
Argus?
[quote][p][bold]Practicalmickey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billieboy[/bold] wrote: What were the grounds for relocating this person in Newport? What strategies have Gwent Police in place to monitor this individual and ensure public safety? Contact Theresa May directly! mayt@parliament.uk[/p][/quote]Maybe the Argus could contact the police and ask.[/p][/quote]Argus? billieboy

3:32pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

Well, Mr Mickey, we could have just reported he was in Wales but that wouldn't have meant much to our readers.
Instead, we have spent a week taking legal advice and making court challenges to be able to reveal he is in Newport - that matters to our readers because it's the area we cover.
We are taking a chance in doing so as it puts us in direct conflict with the judge's directions.
I suspect it would not mean as much to readers of the Post - not that I am criticising the excellent coverage they provide - as they are based in Swansea.
Oh, and the dog story had more than 10,000 page views on this website and has been lucked up national newspapers, radio and TV.
Well, Mr Mickey, we could have just reported he was in Wales but that wouldn't have meant much to our readers. Instead, we have spent a week taking legal advice and making court challenges to be able to reveal he is in Newport - that matters to our readers because it's the area we cover. We are taking a chance in doing so as it puts us in direct conflict with the judge's directions. I suspect it would not mean as much to readers of the Post - not that I am criticising the excellent coverage they provide - as they are based in Swansea. Oh, and the dog story had more than 10,000 page views on this website and has been lucked up national newspapers, radio and TV. Kevin Ward - Editor

3:37pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Deletionista says...

This is where I live, with a young child.
How am I supposed to feel safe?
York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon.
Completely distraught :(
This is where I live, with a young child. How am I supposed to feel safe? York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon. Completely distraught :( Deletionista

3:43pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"A VIOLENT gang leader from London has been ordered to live in Newport, after the Home Office failed to kick him out of the UK"

Do the Home Office consider living in Newport to be a punishment, then? The British equivalent of being sent to Siberia, perhaps...?!
"A VIOLENT gang leader from London has been ordered to live in Newport, after the Home Office failed to kick him out of the UK" Do the Home Office consider living in Newport to be a punishment, then? The British equivalent of being sent to Siberia, perhaps...?! Katie Re-Registered

3:55pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
Well, Mr Mickey, we could have just reported he was in Wales but that wouldn't have meant much to our readers.
Instead, we have spent a week taking legal advice and making court challenges to be able to reveal he is in Newport - that matters to our readers because it's the area we cover.
We are taking a chance in doing so as it puts us in direct conflict with the judge's directions.
I suspect it would not mean as much to readers of the Post - not that I am criticising the excellent coverage they provide - as they are based in Swansea.
Oh, and the dog story had more than 10,000 page views on this website and has been lucked up national newspapers, radio and TV.
Mr Ward, that is News, that the Argus have gone to the effort of taking legal advice to report the details, it may appear that you've sold yourself short, again.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: Well, Mr Mickey, we could have just reported he was in Wales but that wouldn't have meant much to our readers. Instead, we have spent a week taking legal advice and making court challenges to be able to reveal he is in Newport - that matters to our readers because it's the area we cover. We are taking a chance in doing so as it puts us in direct conflict with the judge's directions. I suspect it would not mean as much to readers of the Post - not that I am criticising the excellent coverage they provide - as they are based in Swansea. Oh, and the dog story had more than 10,000 page views on this website and has been lucked up national newspapers, radio and TV.[/p][/quote]Mr Ward, that is News, that the Argus have gone to the effort of taking legal advice to report the details, it may appear that you've sold yourself short, again. Practicalmickey

4:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ncfcr says...

brynglas wrote:
County wrote:
ncfcr wrote:
County wrote:
macbumble wrote:
If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.
This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.
Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.
Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK.
@ncfcr

Does this "higher percentage of non-whites" you cite include the indigenous Australian peoples ("Aborigines")? What is your point? What does a person's colour have to do with anything?
I didn't mention a thing about anyone's colour; that was somebody else. All I said was that Westerners, and particularly Brits, account for the majority of immigration to Australia. Maybe something to do with the continuing demise of this country.
[quote][p][bold]brynglas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ncfcr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]County[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macbumble[/bold] wrote: If it was in New Zealand or OZ he would be on the next plane home, or he would have never got into their countries.[/p][/quote]This one always makes me laugh, people think the White Australia Policy still exists, they have twice the rate immigration that we do.[/p][/quote]Most of it from the Western world, in particular the UK.[/p][/quote]Australia has a higher percentage on non-whites than the UK.[/p][/quote]@ncfcr Does this "higher percentage of non-whites" you cite include the indigenous Australian peoples ("Aborigines")? What is your point? What does a person's colour have to do with anything?[/p][/quote]I didn't mention a thing about anyone's colour; that was somebody else. All I said was that Westerners, and particularly Brits, account for the majority of immigration to Australia. Maybe something to do with the continuing demise of this country. ncfcr

4:23pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Practicalmickey wrote:
Take a look at

http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/news/uknews/i

mmigration/10397740/

Violent-gang-leader-

must-be-freed-judge-

rules.html

And

http://www.southwale

s-eveningpost.co.uk/

Violent-gang-leader-

Joland-Giwa-living-W

ales/story-20454104-

detail/story.html

There's lots on you tube too.

Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go.
quote '' Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go. ''
No, Westminster picked on Newport, because we are Labour voter's..
Behind closed doors,pick on a place to send him,,,NEWPORT !
Witney is beloved Davey Boy's area, not be happy would he if he went there !
Maybe if he was nr an MP of Newport's home, then they could ' kick up a fuss' in Westminster with Davey boy, well I still hope they do !
[quote][p][bold]Practicalmickey[/bold] wrote: Take a look at http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/i mmigration/10397740/ Violent-gang-leader- must-be-freed-judge- rules.html And http://www.southwale s-eveningpost.co.uk/ Violent-gang-leader- Joland-Giwa-living-W ales/story-20454104- detail/story.html There's lots on you tube too. Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go.[/p][/quote]quote '' Surely there was somewhere else for this parasite to go. '' No, Westminster picked on Newport, because we are Labour voter's.. Behind closed doors,pick on a place to send him,,,NEWPORT ! Witney is beloved Davey Boy's area, not be happy would he if he went there ! Maybe if he was nr an MP of Newport's home, then they could ' kick up a fuss' in Westminster with Davey boy, well I still hope they do ! Jonnytrouble

4:37pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

PracticalMickey
Having read through some of your other comments on our site, it's clear you have an anti-Argus agenda. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm obviously not going to change yours.
All I would say is the only way people in the area we cover would know this man is living among them would be by reading our report today.
PracticalMickey Having read through some of your other comments on our site, it's clear you have an anti-Argus agenda. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm obviously not going to change yours. All I would say is the only way people in the area we cover would know this man is living among them would be by reading our report today. Kevin Ward - Editor

4:42pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Deletionista wrote:
This is where I live, with a young child.
How am I supposed to feel safe?
York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon.
Completely distraught :(
Contact your local councillor ( who lives in the area, not like some to mention )and better still your Local MP to ask questions in parliament why he is here in Newport of all the place in the UK..( There paid enough and asking for an over inflated pay rise )
Seeing this paper stirred up things to sell more copies to make more profit by saying where he is in Newport, maybe THEY could do it on your behalf and contact the for said ???????
[quote][p][bold]Deletionista[/bold] wrote: This is where I live, with a young child. How am I supposed to feel safe? York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon. Completely distraught :([/p][/quote]Contact your local councillor ( who lives in the area, not like some to mention )and better still your Local MP to ask questions in parliament why he is here in Newport of all the place in the UK..( There paid enough and asking for an over inflated pay rise ) Seeing this paper stirred up things to sell more copies to make more profit by saying where he is in Newport, maybe THEY could do it on your behalf and contact the for said ??????? Jonnytrouble

4:47pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

We aren't 'stirring things up'. I believe people have a right to know where this person has been housed. If he was living in your street wouldn't you want to know?
We have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and will be reporting their reactions in the coming days.
We aren't 'stirring things up'. I believe people have a right to know where this person has been housed. If he was living in your street wouldn't you want to know? We have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and will be reporting their reactions in the coming days. Kevin Ward - Editor

4:51pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Blodwen Puw says...

How long before his old gang mates come down to visit him? Or more worrying, before gang rivals with grudges to settle come to find him?
Not sure if a city centre is the best place for him.
Who knows, he may not like Newport and leave, he's very close to the railway station!
How long before his old gang mates come down to visit him? Or more worrying, before gang rivals with grudges to settle come to find him? Not sure if a city centre is the best place for him. Who knows, he may not like Newport and leave, he's very close to the railway station! Blodwen Puw

4:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

billieboy says...

Jonnytrouble wrote:
Deletionista wrote:
This is where I live, with a young child.
How am I supposed to feel safe?
York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon.
Completely distraught :(
Contact your local councillor ( who lives in the area, not like some to mention )and better still your Local MP to ask questions in parliament why he is here in Newport of all the place in the UK..( There paid enough and asking for an over inflated pay rise )
Seeing this paper stirred up things to sell more copies to make more profit by saying where he is in Newport, maybe THEY could do it on your behalf and contact the for said ???????
Paul Flynn has been contacted and has contacted Theresa May. Stow Hill Councillors have not responded as of yet. I really think that we need to express our anguish in relation to this to the appropriate people and to try and get this situation rectified. What will you be doing Argus?
[quote][p][bold]Jonnytrouble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deletionista[/bold] wrote: This is where I live, with a young child. How am I supposed to feel safe? York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon. Completely distraught :([/p][/quote]Contact your local councillor ( who lives in the area, not like some to mention )and better still your Local MP to ask questions in parliament why he is here in Newport of all the place in the UK..( There paid enough and asking for an over inflated pay rise ) Seeing this paper stirred up things to sell more copies to make more profit by saying where he is in Newport, maybe THEY could do it on your behalf and contact the for said ???????[/p][/quote]Paul Flynn has been contacted and has contacted Theresa May. Stow Hill Councillors have not responded as of yet. I really think that we need to express our anguish in relation to this to the appropriate people and to try and get this situation rectified. What will you be doing Argus? billieboy

5:04pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

Billieboy
What are we doing?
Firstly, and I think most importantly, have made people aware of where this man is. Without that, no-one would be contracting their local representatives.
As we have said in our comment piece in today's paper, it is an outrage this man has been placed in Newport without consultation with those who live in the vicinity.
Rest assured we will be campaigning for this man to be moved elsewhere and, indeed, to be deported. It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.
Billieboy What are we doing? Firstly, and I think most importantly, have made people aware of where this man is. Without that, no-one would be contracting their local representatives. As we have said in our comment piece in today's paper, it is an outrage this man has been placed in Newport without consultation with those who live in the vicinity. Rest assured we will be campaigning for this man to be moved elsewhere and, indeed, to be deported. It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place. Kevin Ward - Editor

5:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
PracticalMickey
Having read through some of your other comments on our site, it's clear you have an anti-Argus agenda. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm obviously not going to change yours.
All I would say is the only way people in the area we cover would know this man is living among them would be by reading our report today.
Not necessarily an anti-argus agenda, however i do find some of your articles very negative, but so are a lot of other new papers. I used to purchase the Argus on a regular basis but over the years have noticed the papers becoming thinner.
Any way we digress, I read articles and often think, there's more to this; just like above, the work the argus have done to obtain this information but haven't publicised the work they've done, why not? It almost seems half a job, this isn't just reporting a story, if you have had advice and made legal challenges then you've created the story and should tell this to your readers.
Just like my previous comments about (my opinion) the poorly titled stories how about "Argus uncovers location of Violent Gang leader".
Well Done Argus and thank you. Maybe some of the comments made.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: PracticalMickey Having read through some of your other comments on our site, it's clear you have an anti-Argus agenda. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm obviously not going to change yours. All I would say is the only way people in the area we cover would know this man is living among them would be by reading our report today.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily an anti-argus agenda, however i do find some of your articles very negative, but so are a lot of other new papers. I used to purchase the Argus on a regular basis but over the years have noticed the papers becoming thinner. Any way we digress, I read articles and often think, there's more to this; just like above, the work the argus have done to obtain this information but haven't publicised the work they've done, why not? It almost seems half a job, this isn't just reporting a story, if you have had advice and made legal challenges then you've created the story and should tell this to your readers. Just like my previous comments about (my opinion) the poorly titled stories how about "Argus uncovers location of Violent Gang leader". Well Done Argus and thank you. Maybe some of the comments made. Practicalmickey

5:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
We aren't 'stirring things up'. I believe people have a right to know where this person has been housed. If he was living in your street wouldn't you want to know?
We have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and will be reporting their reactions in the coming days.
Quote
' If he was living in your street '
Um I think he might go after a few broken legs or worse !
Pity YOU didn't let the readers know before hand ! Still I am pleased you have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and am sure WE will be interested in what they have to say and maybe send him back to ENGLAND !
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: We aren't 'stirring things up'. I believe people have a right to know where this person has been housed. If he was living in your street wouldn't you want to know? We have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and will be reporting their reactions in the coming days.[/p][/quote]Quote ' If he was living in your street ' Um I think he might go after a few broken legs or worse ! Pity YOU didn't let the readers know before hand ! Still I am pleased you have spoken to all relevant agencies & authorities and am sure WE will be interested in what they have to say and maybe send him back to ENGLAND ! Jonnytrouble

5:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

E.a.poe says...

I expect we'll find him in LaBamba's on the weekend
I expect we'll find him in LaBamba's on the weekend E.a.poe

5:31pm Sat 18 Jan 14

mep says...

I trust all our politicians, MEP's, MP's, AM's and councillors will make their voices heard to get rid of him.
I trust all our politicians, MEP's, MP's, AM's and councillors will make their voices heard to get rid of him. mep

5:32pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Kevin Ward - Editor wrote:
Billieboy
What are we doing?
Firstly, and I think most importantly, have made people aware of where this man is. Without that, no-one would be contracting their local representatives.
As we have said in our comment piece in today's paper, it is an outrage this man has been placed in Newport without consultation with those who live in the vicinity.
Rest assured we will be campaigning for this man to be moved elsewhere and, indeed, to be deported. It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.
I think you mean contacting not contracting in your above statement, but by all means contact some Local guy's around Newport about him, there again I expect they have read this and not a happy bunch...LOL !
Will he need Police protection paid by Newport Council tax payers now just to add to the costs ?..LOL !
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Ward - Editor[/bold] wrote: Billieboy What are we doing? Firstly, and I think most importantly, have made people aware of where this man is. Without that, no-one would be contracting their local representatives. As we have said in our comment piece in today's paper, it is an outrage this man has been placed in Newport without consultation with those who live in the vicinity. Rest assured we will be campaigning for this man to be moved elsewhere and, indeed, to be deported. It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.[/p][/quote]I think you mean contacting not contracting in your above statement, but by all means contact some Local guy's around Newport about him, there again I expect they have read this and not a happy bunch...LOL ! Will he need Police protection paid by Newport Council tax payers now just to add to the costs ?..LOL ! Jonnytrouble

5:51pm Sat 18 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

come on all you socialist labour lot "HE's ONE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY"
come on all you socialist labour lot "HE's ONE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY" scraptheWAG

6:08pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Captain Tripps says...

Why all the fuss ? Newport has had these scumbags dumped on it for years . I blame Labour and the Left for this outrage .
Why all the fuss ? Newport has had these scumbags dumped on it for years . I blame Labour and the Left for this outrage . Captain Tripps

6:13pm Sat 18 Jan 14

The Red Claw says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
come on all you socialist labour lot "HE's ONE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY"
And a very profitable cashcow for the British legal profession. No wonder the judge declined to kick him out.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: come on all you socialist labour lot "HE's ONE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY"[/p][/quote]And a very profitable cashcow for the British legal profession. No wonder the judge declined to kick him out. The Red Claw

6:24pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Kevin Ward - Editor says...

Jonnytrouble
I can assure you if we had known about this before it happened we would have reported it.
Apologies for the spelling error - responding via my mobile without my glasses!
Jonnytrouble I can assure you if we had known about this before it happened we would have reported it. Apologies for the spelling error - responding via my mobile without my glasses! Kevin Ward - Editor

6:43pm Sat 18 Jan 14

jimmysmith says...

even more reason to vote ukip ..the sooner cameron and his cronies david davies included are gone the better .VOTE UKIP FOLKS
even more reason to vote ukip ..the sooner cameron and his cronies david davies included are gone the better .VOTE UKIP FOLKS jimmysmith

6:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

jimmysmith wrote:
even more reason to vote ukip ..the sooner cameron and his cronies david davies included are gone the better .VOTE UKIP FOLKS
i will be voting ukip , yes i expect cherie balir is preparing his defence now and robbing the tax payer blind.
[quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: even more reason to vote ukip ..the sooner cameron and his cronies david davies included are gone the better .VOTE UKIP FOLKS[/p][/quote]i will be voting ukip , yes i expect cherie balir is preparing his defence now and robbing the tax payer blind. scraptheWAG

7:10pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Gweneira says...

If he has to report to UKBA twice a week, then I suspect his Indefinite Leave to remain has been revoked by Home Office due to his criminality and he is now seeing an alternative visa to remain in UK. He is probably being housed in a asylum accommodation which is not under the control of the council or a housing association. Newport along with Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham are dispersal dispersal cities for asylum seekers/migrants and accommodation is given on a no choice basis. If Sierra Leone & Nigeria do not give him a passport, then he cannot be returned to these countries. He will be classed as stateless and will use the Human Rights Act, Article 8 - Right to Family Life to remain in this country. This man cannot be deported anywhere so will end up having a 3 year Discretionary Visa. To be extended every 3 years. One consolation, he will never be naturalised as a British Citizen.
If he has to report to UKBA twice a week, then I suspect his Indefinite Leave to remain has been revoked by Home Office due to his criminality and he is now seeing an alternative visa to remain in UK. He is probably being housed in a asylum accommodation which is not under the control of the council or a housing association. Newport along with Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham are dispersal dispersal cities for asylum seekers/migrants and accommodation is given on a no choice basis. If Sierra Leone & Nigeria do not give him a passport, then he cannot be returned to these countries. He will be classed as stateless and will use the Human Rights Act, Article 8 - Right to Family Life to remain in this country. This man cannot be deported anywhere so will end up having a 3 year Discretionary Visa. To be extended every 3 years. One consolation, he will never be naturalised as a British Citizen. Gweneira

8:56pm Sat 18 Jan 14

foxy3rd says...

Gweneira wrote:
If he has to report to UKBA twice a week, then I suspect his Indefinite Leave to remain has been revoked by Home Office due to his criminality and he is now seeing an alternative visa to remain in UK. He is probably being housed in a asylum accommodation which is not under the control of the council or a housing association. Newport along with Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham are dispersal dispersal cities for asylum seekers/migrants and accommodation is given on a no choice basis. If Sierra Leone & Nigeria do not give him a passport, then he cannot be returned to these countries. He will be classed as stateless and will use the Human Rights Act, Article 8 - Right to Family Life to remain in this country. This man cannot be deported anywhere so will end up having a 3 year Discretionary Visa. To be extended every 3 years. One consolation, he will never be naturalised as a British Citizen.
Bet if he lives long enough he'll get a baksheesh O.A .Pension or an equivalent lus accommodation etc.
[quote][p][bold]Gweneira[/bold] wrote: If he has to report to UKBA twice a week, then I suspect his Indefinite Leave to remain has been revoked by Home Office due to his criminality and he is now seeing an alternative visa to remain in UK. He is probably being housed in a asylum accommodation which is not under the control of the council or a housing association. Newport along with Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham are dispersal dispersal cities for asylum seekers/migrants and accommodation is given on a no choice basis. If Sierra Leone & Nigeria do not give him a passport, then he cannot be returned to these countries. He will be classed as stateless and will use the Human Rights Act, Article 8 - Right to Family Life to remain in this country. This man cannot be deported anywhere so will end up having a 3 year Discretionary Visa. To be extended every 3 years. One consolation, he will never be naturalised as a British Citizen.[/p][/quote]Bet if he lives long enough he'll get a baksheesh O.A .Pension or an equivalent lus accommodation etc. foxy3rd

8:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

emlynkide says...

so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england.
so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england. emlynkide

9:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

billieboy says...

emlynkide wrote:
so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england.
Good call
[quote][p][bold]emlynkide[/bold] wrote: so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england.[/p][/quote]Good call billieboy

9:29pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Stevenboy says...

emlynkide wrote:
so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england.
Surely no-one in the UK should have to live near this creep. Absolutely he should not have been sent here but the other residents of these islands don't deserve him either. He must have boarded the plane to the UK from somewhere, that should be where he's sent. And quick.
[quote][p][bold]emlynkide[/bold] wrote: so having read all the comments, come on argus raise a petition so all the readers can signe it and sling him back over the boarder from where he came from. england.[/p][/quote]Surely no-one in the UK should have to live near this creep. Absolutely he should not have been sent here but the other residents of these islands don't deserve him either. He must have boarded the plane to the UK from somewhere, that should be where he's sent. And quick. Stevenboy

10:29pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Ceri says...

jaggededge wrote:
That's says it all about Newport a dumping ground for the rubbish of society
Not sure how to take that quote.. Newport once was a lovely civilised and trustfull place to live. However, times have changed, people and cultures have changed..... I'm horrified that Newport is now a dumping ground for people who think they have a right to live here.... Fffffffffffffff nobody is safe !!!
[quote][p][bold]jaggededge[/bold] wrote: That's says it all about Newport a dumping ground for the rubbish of society[/p][/quote]Not sure how to take that quote.. Newport once was a lovely civilised and trustfull place to live. However, times have changed, people and cultures have changed..... I'm horrified that Newport is now a dumping ground for people who think they have a right to live here.... Fffffffffffffff nobody is safe !!! Ceri

10:57pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

What a very sad situation this is.
1. The Argus approach is right, but i wish they would adopt the same regarding other racial matters which affect the town.
2. In all the 70+ comments on here there is not one from the Human Rights do-gooders, defending the UK immigration policy.
3. You will never get a straight reply from and councillor or MP because they sit on the fence and deny there is a problem.
4. All of this group will tell you categorically there is no problem because they are scared of losing votes. I get this sort of answer, sadly, from Jessica Morden MP who i have contacted on the issue many times.
If something is not done pretty soon, shortly there will be utter chaos in the uk.
What a very sad situation this is. 1. The Argus approach is right, but i wish they would adopt the same regarding other racial matters which affect the town. 2. In all the 70+ comments on here there is not one from the Human Rights do-gooders, defending the UK immigration policy. 3. You will never get a straight reply from and councillor or MP because they sit on the fence and deny there is a problem. 4. All of this group will tell you categorically there is no problem because they are scared of losing votes. I get this sort of answer, sadly, from Jessica Morden MP who i have contacted on the issue many times. If something is not done pretty soon, shortly there will be utter chaos in the uk. Banjalucka

11:19pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Casnewydd lad says...

I give up
I give up Casnewydd lad

11:44pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

Casnewydd lad
bit of a nothing comment isn't it ? Give up on what?
Casnewydd lad bit of a nothing comment isn't it ? Give up on what? Banjalucka

12:30am Sun 19 Jan 14

Super Shinobi says...

Are people finally realizing that the only ones enjoying the destruction of what is great about being British are the Eurocrats. In all of the EU member states, the people are increasingly feeling like 'multiculturalism' is something that is being done TO them, not for them.

The Greeks and the Italians still don't like the Germans and the Brits, and this ridiculous idea of cultural relativism only really works if you don't have to live in it. People should feel a sharp sting everytime they catch themselves having to apologise or stress that they aren't a racist for noticing that these sub cultures are hurting superior British values and way of life.

In my opinion it is immoral not to notice that there is something wonderful about being British, in light of all these 'new' problems that this cultural relativist attitude is causing in cities all across Europe.

With 75% of our laws being dictated by Brussels, and a political class that can't tell the difference between skin colour and sub cultures, we are in deep doo-doo. If the Eurocrats dream of a communist 'United States of Europe' doesn't fill you with deep dread, you should at least be worried about how much your kids are going to hate you for the rise of nationalism and poverty in the UK.
Are people finally realizing that the only ones enjoying the destruction of what is great about being British are the Eurocrats. In all of the EU member states, the people are increasingly feeling like 'multiculturalism' is something that is being done TO them, not for them. The Greeks and the Italians still don't like the Germans and the Brits, and this ridiculous idea of cultural relativism only really works if you don't have to live in it. People should feel a sharp sting everytime they catch themselves having to apologise or stress that they aren't a racist for noticing that these sub cultures are hurting superior British values and way of life. In my opinion it is immoral not to notice that there is something wonderful about being British, in light of all these 'new' problems that this cultural relativist attitude is causing in cities all across Europe. With 75% of our laws being dictated by Brussels, and a political class that can't tell the difference between skin colour and sub cultures, we are in deep doo-doo. If the Eurocrats dream of a communist 'United States of Europe' doesn't fill you with deep dread, you should at least be worried about how much your kids are going to hate you for the rise of nationalism and poverty in the UK. Super Shinobi

12:44am Sun 19 Jan 14

Super Shinobi says...

I don't agree with quite a lot of UKIP's ideas, but listen to what Cameron and Thetesa May actually say. We NEED UKIP to shake up the political classes, get us out of this suicidal, unholy European union, and take back control of our laws and salvage some modicum of democracy and identity.

None of the others are going to do it. A few UKIP seats in the house won't hurt, and individual policy can be voted against after the most important problem is adressed. All other issues will follow.
I don't agree with quite a lot of UKIP's ideas, but listen to what Cameron and Thetesa May actually say. We NEED UKIP to shake up the political classes, get us out of this suicidal, unholy European union, and take back control of our laws and salvage some modicum of democracy and identity. None of the others are going to do it. A few UKIP seats in the house won't hurt, and individual policy can be voted against after the most important problem is adressed. All other issues will follow. Super Shinobi

9:23am Sun 19 Jan 14

Leepod says...

Property prices in York Place gonna take a we nose dive!
Property prices in York Place gonna take a we nose dive! Leepod

9:27am Sun 19 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

Super Shinobi wrote:
I don't agree with quite a lot of UKIP's ideas, but listen to what Cameron and Thetesa May actually say. We NEED UKIP to shake up the political classes, get us out of this suicidal, unholy European union, and take back control of our laws and salvage some modicum of democracy and identity.

None of the others are going to do it. A few UKIP seats in the house won't hurt, and individual policy can be voted against after the most important problem is adressed. All other issues will follow.
all there policies seem excellent cut public spending cut taxes (huge waste in public sector) and cut cheap labour for big compnaies like tesco asda etc
[quote][p][bold]Super Shinobi[/bold] wrote: I don't agree with quite a lot of UKIP's ideas, but listen to what Cameron and Thetesa May actually say. We NEED UKIP to shake up the political classes, get us out of this suicidal, unholy European union, and take back control of our laws and salvage some modicum of democracy and identity. None of the others are going to do it. A few UKIP seats in the house won't hurt, and individual policy can be voted against after the most important problem is adressed. All other issues will follow.[/p][/quote]all there policies seem excellent cut public spending cut taxes (huge waste in public sector) and cut cheap labour for big compnaies like tesco asda etc scraptheWAG

10:01am Sun 19 Jan 14

brynglas says...

@ncfcr
Sorry, the overlapping quotations were confusing - I can see the comment I challenged about the percentage of non-white people in Australia was made by someone else. I apologise for mistakenly attributing this to you.
@ncfcr Sorry, the overlapping quotations were confusing - I can see the comment I challenged about the percentage of non-white people in Australia was made by someone else. I apologise for mistakenly attributing this to you. brynglas

11:11am Sun 19 Jan 14

scraptheWAG says...

has he got a shell suit and a staffey a fag and a can of larger or he will stick out like a sore thumb in the port
has he got a shell suit and a staffey a fag and a can of larger or he will stick out like a sore thumb in the port scraptheWAG

11:55am Sun 19 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?
So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh? GardenVarietyMushroom

12:14pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?
Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?[/p][/quote]Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage. Llanmartinangel

1:07pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Magor says...

Maybe he has been offered a job by WAG or a Council. Gang Culture Officer.
Maybe he has been offered a job by WAG or a Council. Gang Culture Officer. Magor

1:19pm Sun 19 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo

m
wrote:
So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?
Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage.
Oh, I agree. People who use violent means to prey on those weaker than themselves is anathema to people like me.

But he's done his time (plus another four years he wasn't sentenced to). Perhaps what he needs is rehabilitation. His brother, I understand, once also a former gang member and an ex con but now involved in some community project called 'Lives Not Knives', has done a great deal to further the fight against the blight of gang violence and knife crime in disadvantaged London areas. The possibility exists that this man - perhaps more mature now than the inner-city gangland child - could do good for the community.

Instead we get hugely irresponsible journalism from the Argus, and Kevin Ward, whose anti-immigrant views I've hitherto only suspected but for which further evidence is offered by his comment ' It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.' Is it a 'nonsense' Mr. Ward, that a ten year old child, from a war torn country, arriving in this country with no parent or guardian be taken in? Shame on you for saying so.

Now - I'm not saying that I defend what Joland Giwa has done in the past. But he's served his time, and deserves the chance to turn his life around without local newspapers stirring up the mob to howl for his blood.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?[/p][/quote]Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage.[/p][/quote]Oh, I agree. People who use violent means to prey on those weaker than themselves is anathema to people like me. But he's done his time (plus another four years he wasn't sentenced to). Perhaps what he needs is rehabilitation. His brother, I understand, once also a former gang member and an ex con but now involved in some community project called 'Lives Not Knives', has done a great deal to further the fight against the blight of gang violence and knife crime in disadvantaged London areas. The possibility exists that this man - perhaps more mature now than the inner-city gangland child - could do good for the community. Instead we get hugely irresponsible journalism from the Argus, and Kevin Ward, whose anti-immigrant views I've hitherto only suspected but for which further evidence is offered by his comment ' It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.' Is it a 'nonsense' Mr. Ward, that a ten year old child, from a war torn country, arriving in this country with no parent or guardian be taken in? Shame on you for saying so. Now - I'm not saying that I defend what Joland Giwa has done in the past. But he's served his time, and deserves the chance to turn his life around without local newspapers stirring up the mob to howl for his blood. GardenVarietyMushroom

1:45pm Sun 19 Jan 14

bladerunner says...

Wonder if you would be saying that if you lived next door to him! I think not! Newport is bad enough now without using it as a dumping ground.
Wonder if you would be saying that if you lived next door to him! I think not! Newport is bad enough now without using it as a dumping ground. bladerunner

1:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo


m
wrote:
So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?
Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage.
Oh, I agree. People who use violent means to prey on those weaker than themselves is anathema to people like me.

But he's done his time (plus another four years he wasn't sentenced to). Perhaps what he needs is rehabilitation. His brother, I understand, once also a former gang member and an ex con but now involved in some community project called 'Lives Not Knives', has done a great deal to further the fight against the blight of gang violence and knife crime in disadvantaged London areas. The possibility exists that this man - perhaps more mature now than the inner-city gangland child - could do good for the community.

Instead we get hugely irresponsible journalism from the Argus, and Kevin Ward, whose anti-immigrant views I've hitherto only suspected but for which further evidence is offered by his comment ' It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.' Is it a 'nonsense' Mr. Ward, that a ten year old child, from a war torn country, arriving in this country with no parent or guardian be taken in? Shame on you for saying so.

Now - I'm not saying that I defend what Joland Giwa has done in the past. But he's served his time, and deserves the chance to turn his life around without local newspapers stirring up the mob to howl for his blood.
For 'anti immigration views' read 'this type of immigration', which it seems is a majority view whether you like it or not. His rehabilitation, if indeed it is possible, and a lot of us doubt that it is, isn't the responsibility of British taxpayers and neither is financing his pointless existence. Yet you seem to suggest we should suck it up. Maybe we should decline landing rights to any plane from countries that allow undocumented people, including minors to travel. This would should definitely be repatriated to the country he boarded from.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: So, Kevin. Where do we get our Argus sponsored pitchforks and nooses from eh?[/p][/quote]Even you have to admit that having to tolerate people like this in any British community is worthy of outrage.[/p][/quote]Oh, I agree. People who use violent means to prey on those weaker than themselves is anathema to people like me. But he's done his time (plus another four years he wasn't sentenced to). Perhaps what he needs is rehabilitation. His brother, I understand, once also a former gang member and an ex con but now involved in some community project called 'Lives Not Knives', has done a great deal to further the fight against the blight of gang violence and knife crime in disadvantaged London areas. The possibility exists that this man - perhaps more mature now than the inner-city gangland child - could do good for the community. Instead we get hugely irresponsible journalism from the Argus, and Kevin Ward, whose anti-immigrant views I've hitherto only suspected but for which further evidence is offered by his comment ' It is a nonsense he is in this country in the first place.' Is it a 'nonsense' Mr. Ward, that a ten year old child, from a war torn country, arriving in this country with no parent or guardian be taken in? Shame on you for saying so. Now - I'm not saying that I defend what Joland Giwa has done in the past. But he's served his time, and deserves the chance to turn his life around without local newspapers stirring up the mob to howl for his blood.[/p][/quote]For 'anti immigration views' read 'this type of immigration', which it seems is a majority view whether you like it or not. His rehabilitation, if indeed it is possible, and a lot of us doubt that it is, isn't the responsibility of British taxpayers and neither is financing his pointless existence. Yet you seem to suggest we should suck it up. Maybe we should decline landing rights to any plane from countries that allow undocumented people, including minors to travel. This would should definitely be repatriated to the country he boarded from. Llanmartinangel

2:02pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

Mushroom -
Out of 80+ comments you are the only Do-Gooder so far. And you bring back the old chestnut anti -inmmigration. It's because of people like you, with similar samaritan views, that the UK IS in this mess
Mushroom - Out of 80+ comments you are the only Do-Gooder so far. And you bring back the old chestnut anti -inmmigration. It's because of people like you, with similar samaritan views, that the UK IS in this mess Banjalucka

2:10pm Sun 19 Jan 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

disgruntled taxpayer wrote:
may i suggest that this unfortunate individual , be moved to Witney , Oxfordshire or Sheffield Hallam , so that David Cameron and Nick Clegg can have the joys of his company , and be able to run into him into their high street !!! . instead of the good people of Newport . this action by the Courts of Britain stinks . " move him anywhere as long as its not on my doorstep " well we DON'T Want him EITHER !!!!!
a reply from our local m.p. Paul Flynn . e-mail sent to :-
Rt Hon Theresa May MP

Home Secretary

2 Marsham Street

London
SW1P 4DF

1/19/2014

Dear Theresa,

Transfer of Mr Joland Giwa to Newport.

Enclosed is a report from today's South Wales Argus. I understand that the Home Office isrefusing to confirm the present location of Mr Giwa. I write presuming that the South Wales Argus story is accurate.

Understandably there is deep outrage and anger that a man described as a 'dangerous criminal' and a ‘serious threat to the public and young people’ has been transferred to a residential address in the heart of urban Newport.

My constituents raise three main concerns:-
* Why are the laws on deportation impotent to expel from our borders a person who has flagrantly broken our laws and abused our hospitality?
* Why Wales?
* Why Newport?

There is exasperation that criminal immigrants can evade justice by claiming to have lost their passports, disguised their nationality or by otherwise attempting manipulate the system. Has your department no remedies for these ploys?

This person presents a problem for London and the rest of England. What was the process that determined that he, and the danger he represents, should be re-located to Wales and Newport. What other areas were considered and what consultations were held with Newport representatives? If unpalatable decisions are unavoidable, London should be responsible for its own problems and not seek to dump them on Wales and Newport.

I am copying this letter to the Chair of the Home Affairs Committee urging an investigation.

Yours sincerely



Paul Flynn
[quote][p][bold]disgruntled taxpayer[/bold] wrote: may i suggest that this unfortunate individual , be moved to Witney , Oxfordshire or Sheffield Hallam , so that David Cameron and Nick Clegg can have the joys of his company , and be able to run into him into their high street !!! . instead of the good people of Newport . this action by the Courts of Britain stinks . " move him anywhere as long as its not on my doorstep " well we DON'T Want him EITHER !!!!![/p][/quote]a reply from our local m.p. Paul Flynn . e-mail sent to :- Rt Hon Theresa May MP
 Home Secretary
 2 Marsham Street
 London
SW1P 4DF 1/19/2014 Dear Theresa, Transfer of Mr Joland Giwa to Newport. Enclosed is a report from today's South Wales Argus. I understand that the Home Office isrefusing to confirm the present location of Mr Giwa. I write presuming that the South Wales Argus story is accurate. Understandably there is deep outrage and anger that a man described as a 'dangerous criminal' and a ‘serious threat to the public and young people’ has been transferred to a residential address in the heart of urban Newport. My constituents raise three main concerns:- * Why are the laws on deportation impotent to expel from our borders a person who has flagrantly broken our laws and abused our hospitality? * Why Wales? * Why Newport? There is exasperation that criminal immigrants can evade justice by claiming to have lost their passports, disguised their nationality or by otherwise attempting manipulate the system. Has your department no remedies for these ploys? This person presents a problem for London and the rest of England. What was the process that determined that he, and the danger he represents, should be re-located to Wales and Newport. What other areas were considered and what consultations were held with Newport representatives? If unpalatable decisions are unavoidable, London should be responsible for its own problems and not seek to dump them on Wales and Newport. I am copying this letter to the Chair of the Home Affairs Committee urging an investigation. Yours sincerely Paul Flynn disgruntled taxpayer

2:10pm Sun 19 Jan 14

welshmen says...

Mushroom: invite our guest (joland giwa) around for a meet with your family, put him up with your money, devote your time trying to make a human-being out of him, take him down to Cardiff twice a week, go on he'll be ok he's served his time, ask him to baby sit for you, do your washing, ironing, perhaps you could employ him as your family maid.... Now all that sounds stupid doesn't it, just like your post....
Mushroom: invite our guest (joland giwa) around for a meet with your family, put him up with your money, devote your time trying to make a human-being out of him, take him down to Cardiff twice a week, go on he'll be ok he's served his time, ask him to baby sit for you, do your washing, ironing, perhaps you could employ him as your family maid.... Now all that sounds stupid doesn't it, just like your post.... welshmen

2:41pm Sun 19 Jan 14

russ angel says...

The even further damage that this does to the way that people nationally view the reputation of Newport is just another nail in the coffin here.How I am starting to dread the next days news from what was once such a great town.I am so glad that I live out of town now,especially after seeing some of the "scum" that I witnessed after a journey into town the other day,junkies,alcoholi
cs anti-social behavior.This place really stinks of the bottom line now.
The even further damage that this does to the way that people nationally view the reputation of Newport is just another nail in the coffin here.How I am starting to dread the next days news from what was once such a great town.I am so glad that I live out of town now,especially after seeing some of the "scum" that I witnessed after a journey into town the other day,junkies,alcoholi cs anti-social behavior.This place really stinks of the bottom line now. russ angel

3:05pm Sun 19 Jan 14

DavidMclean says...

Newport Spark wrote:
You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us.
Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality?
[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote: You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us.[/p][/quote]Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality? DavidMclean

3:56pm Sun 19 Jan 14

ncfcr says...

brynglas wrote:
@ncfcr
Sorry, the overlapping quotations were confusing - I can see the comment I challenged about the percentage of non-white people in Australia was made by someone else. I apologise for mistakenly attributing this to you.
No worries, just wanted to clear it up ;-)

PS. I'm from Brynglas originally.
[quote][p][bold]brynglas[/bold] wrote: @ncfcr Sorry, the overlapping quotations were confusing - I can see the comment I challenged about the percentage of non-white people in Australia was made by someone else. I apologise for mistakenly attributing this to you.[/p][/quote]No worries, just wanted to clear it up ;-) PS. I'm from Brynglas originally. ncfcr

4:26pm Sun 19 Jan 14

broadjustice says...

One option... Angry mob, York place, let's drive this scumbag out ourselves. I think if we make enough of a stink, they'll remove him for his own safety.
One option... Angry mob, York place, let's drive this scumbag out ourselves. I think if we make enough of a stink, they'll remove him for his own safety. broadjustice

4:34pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Banjalucka says...

Perhaps he will be invited to the Celtic Manor when NATO are here
Perhaps he will be invited to the Celtic Manor when NATO are here Banjalucka

4:53pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Spinflight says...

This site might be of interest..

http://www.ukipnewpo
rt.com
This site might be of interest.. http://www.ukipnewpo rt.com Spinflight

4:59pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Spinflight says...

"Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality?"

He was a tory when he said it.... No-one was interested.

He joins UKIP and suddenly there is a national outcry...

Things that make you go hmmmmmm
"Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality?" He was a tory when he said it.... No-one was interested. He joins UKIP and suddenly there is a national outcry... Things that make you go hmmmmmm Spinflight

7:07pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Practicalmickey says...

Blodwen Puw wrote:
How long before his old gang mates come down to visit him? Or more worrying, before gang rivals with grudges to settle come to find him?
Not sure if a city centre is the best place for him.
Who knows, he may not like Newport and leave, he's very close to the railway station!
Well now they know where he lives and so does everyone else, which number was it? Can you fellow York Place residents assist.
[quote][p][bold]Blodwen Puw[/bold] wrote: How long before his old gang mates come down to visit him? Or more worrying, before gang rivals with grudges to settle come to find him? Not sure if a city centre is the best place for him. Who knows, he may not like Newport and leave, he's very close to the railway station![/p][/quote]Well now they know where he lives and so does everyone else, which number was it? Can you fellow York Place residents assist. Practicalmickey

11:01pm Sun 19 Jan 14

RevolutionIsNow says...

OPINION OF A 21 YEAR OLD WELSH LAD In my opinion we all know the local MP's or GOV will not tackle this issue. I believe this is the time for a revolution and we as the people of wales should take it into our own hands and drive scum like this out of the neighborhood. Its the only way we can take back the green green grass of home. This beautifull country was once the land of our fathers its now the land of the offenders. SICKENING
OPINION OF A 21 YEAR OLD WELSH LAD In my opinion we all know the local MP's or GOV will not tackle this issue. I believe this is the time for a revolution and we as the people of wales should take it into our own hands and drive scum like this out of the neighborhood. Its the only way we can take back the green green grass of home. This beautifull country was once the land of our fathers its now the land of the offenders. SICKENING RevolutionIsNow

11:30am Mon 20 Jan 14

humlin says...

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY humlin

12:15pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Gareth says...

DavidMclean wrote:
Newport Spark wrote:
You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us.
Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality?
I'm a bit surprised by that comment David, as your posts usually seem so measured.

Forget the sensationalist headlines in the red tops, do you really think that said Cllr's views were a reflection of his employer's policy, and not the fundamentalist Christian belief system?
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote: You can moan all you want but until people stop voting for the Con/Lab/Lib grip on our country NOTHING will ever change.I don't remember voting for this.Did you?You are looked on with contempt from the Westminster village.If you want change UKIP is the only party that can save us.[/p][/quote]Is that the same UKIP which features a councillor who blamed the recent floods on homosexuality?[/p][/quote]I'm a bit surprised by that comment David, as your posts usually seem so measured. Forget the sensationalist headlines in the red tops, do you really think that said Cllr's views were a reflection of his employer's policy, and not the fundamentalist Christian belief system? Gareth

1:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Mackem Mick says...

I wouldn't worry too much about this as I am guessing that the gentleman in question does not speak Welsh and therefore would find it very difficult to operate effectively in this part of the United Kingdom.

Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt.
I wouldn't worry too much about this as I am guessing that the gentleman in question does not speak Welsh and therefore would find it very difficult to operate effectively in this part of the United Kingdom. Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt. Mackem Mick

3:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

sunrise123 says...

Mackem Mick wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about this as I am guessing that the gentleman in question does not speak Welsh and therefore would find it very difficult to operate effectively in this part of the United Kingdom.

Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt.
It might help to google this guy and then we would not have to read your idiotic comments.
[quote][p][bold]Mackem Mick[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't worry too much about this as I am guessing that the gentleman in question does not speak Welsh and therefore would find it very difficult to operate effectively in this part of the United Kingdom. Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]It might help to google this guy and then we would not have to read your idiotic comments. sunrise123

3:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ktaffy says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
"Joland Giwa, General of Croydon’s largest criminal gang, Don’t Say Nothing"

I wonder if Mr...er sorry, *General* Giwa knows that above the title of his gang is grammatically incorrect as it should actually be: 'Don't Say Anything'?

Second question: um...I wonder if there's anyone still alive who had the guts to tell him?!
can you tell him that from me & the next time i'm back in Newport I'll get you a good few pints, if you drink them with a straw
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: "Joland Giwa, General of Croydon’s largest criminal gang, Don’t Say Nothing" I wonder if Mr...er sorry, *General* Giwa knows that above the title of his gang is grammatically incorrect as it should actually be: 'Don't Say Anything'? Second question: um...I wonder if there's anyone still alive who had the guts to tell him?![/p][/quote]can you tell him that from me & the next time i'm back in Newport I'll get you a good few pints, if you drink them with a straw ktaffy

3:54pm Mon 20 Jan 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

having contacted jessica morden on this matter this is her lackeys reply :-
Thank you for your email. I am sorry but from the address details given you are not a constituent, there is a strict Parliamentary protocol that means that MPs may only act on behalf of their own constituents. I can confirm however that Paul Flynn MP has written to the Home Office and Jessica supports that action.


Lynn Glaister
Office Manager for Jessica Morden MP
Labour Member of Parliament for Newport East

my reply to him :-
may i congratulate you for playing the "ostrich " not on my doorstep , as im sure you realise if you ever came to newport that a 5 minute bus ride from this " thugs " current address is Newport East where im sure he will find more converts for his " gang " unless we do something about it NOW .try playing the united front with Paul and at least try acting " OUTRAGED " as i'm sure the government will surely notice this . and maybe if your lucky move this " THUG " from york place to a bail address in newport east ( a 5 minute taxi Drive ) as you don't seem to mind about this " THUGS " past so would welcome him to your constituency . Please Take this seriously Before This " THUG " has a chance to cement himself into newport and get him moved NOW .
having contacted jessica morden on this matter this is her lackeys reply :- Thank you for your email. I am sorry but from the address details given you are not a constituent, there is a strict Parliamentary protocol that means that MPs may only act on behalf of their own constituents. I can confirm however that Paul Flynn MP has written to the Home Office and Jessica supports that action. Lynn Glaister Office Manager for Jessica Morden MP Labour Member of Parliament for Newport East my reply to him :- may i congratulate you for playing the "ostrich " not on my doorstep , as im sure you realise if you ever came to newport that a 5 minute bus ride from this " thugs " current address is Newport East where im sure he will find more converts for his " gang " unless we do something about it NOW .try playing the united front with Paul and at least try acting " OUTRAGED " as i'm sure the government will surely notice this . and maybe if your lucky move this " THUG " from york place to a bail address in newport east ( a 5 minute taxi Drive ) as you don't seem to mind about this " THUGS " past so would welcome him to your constituency . Please Take this seriously Before This " THUG " has a chance to cement himself into newport and get him moved NOW . disgruntled taxpayer

3:55pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Dolieboy says...

No identity documents - simple - detain him under the prevention of terrorism act.
No identity documents - simple - detain him under the prevention of terrorism act. Dolieboy

5:24pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Dai Rear says...

"Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt."
Which would mean forsaking all his friends, the only "family" he has, who think him a hero. Could you?
Why did the editor take out my comments? weird. Of course airlines who bring unaccompanied children into our country without satisfying themselves the children will be supported here by working relatives should be made to pay for the children's continuing care. What's controversial about that, Kevin Ward Editor?
"Anyway has anybody considered the possibility that Giwa may be looking to go straight from now on after a prolonged spell in detention. Perhaps, the people of Newport should rally around and give the chap some encouragement and benefit of the doubt." Which would mean forsaking all his friends, the only "family" he has, who think him a hero. Could you? Why did the editor take out my comments? weird. Of course airlines who bring unaccompanied children into our country without satisfying themselves the children will be supported here by working relatives should be made to pay for the children's continuing care. What's controversial about that, Kevin Ward Editor? Dai Rear

7:57pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Floppy backed says...

Deletionista wrote:
This is where I live, with a young child.
How am I supposed to feel safe?
York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon.
Completely distraught :(
Exactly, I feel for you as I would feel the same. More than likely he'll get moved on soon and if there is any trouble he will be thrown out. I would be more concerned if I had teenagers boys men like him want to befriend very scary!
[quote][p][bold]Deletionista[/bold] wrote: This is where I live, with a young child. How am I supposed to feel safe? York Place has been getting progressively worse. I rent privately and have no way of moving any time soon. Completely distraught :([/p][/quote]Exactly, I feel for you as I would feel the same. More than likely he'll get moved on soon and if there is any trouble he will be thrown out. I would be more concerned if I had teenagers boys men like him want to befriend very scary! Floppy backed

8:18am Tue 21 Jan 14

Lliswerry Man says...

Once again , the UKIP brigade claiming they can bring change, obviously not and never will happen, so please stop banging on the drums !!

Then we have those , whose names I forget ,who claim, without facts, that Newport / Wales is the dumping ground and that disabled and homeless appear to be somewhat jumping housing queues for social housing, AGAIN, where is the proof? All hearsay and made up nonsense.

Once again a story taken off track to suit some peoples own political agenda !!

The guy should never have been allowed into the UK in the first place, neither him or his brother, thats where the fault lies, with our Borders and those running it and the rules they have to follow.

He is simply more proof that our system to allow migrants here to save them from torture and possible death is simply being abused by those whose main goal is to take advantage of our good welcoming nature for their own self gain.
Once again , the UKIP brigade claiming they can bring change, obviously not and never will happen, so please stop banging on the drums !! Then we have those , whose names I forget ,who claim, without facts, that Newport / Wales is the dumping ground and that disabled and homeless appear to be somewhat jumping housing queues for social housing, AGAIN, where is the proof? All hearsay and made up nonsense. Once again a story taken off track to suit some peoples own political agenda !! The guy should never have been allowed into the UK in the first place, neither him or his brother, thats where the fault lies, with our Borders and those running it and the rules they have to follow. He is simply more proof that our system to allow migrants here to save them from torture and possible death is simply being abused by those whose main goal is to take advantage of our good welcoming nature for their own self gain. Lliswerry Man

9:54am Tue 21 Jan 14

Mervyn James says...

Wales, still being used as a dumping ground for failed Westminster policies on migrants, and criminals.... However Police and Newport CC MUST have been told first and then agreed, who agreed to this travesty ? It isn't only gang leaders like this, but paedo's as well we aren't told about, residents have a right to know who is living next to them.
Wales, still being used as a dumping ground for failed Westminster policies on migrants, and criminals.... However Police and Newport CC MUST have been told first and then agreed, who agreed to this travesty ? It isn't only gang leaders like this, but paedo's as well we aren't told about, residents have a right to know who is living next to them. Mervyn James

1:38pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Gweneira says...

disgruntled taxpayer wrote:
having contacted jessica morden on this matter this is her lackeys reply :-
Thank you for your email. I am sorry but from the address details given you are not a constituent, there is a strict Parliamentary protocol that means that MPs may only act on behalf of their own constituents. I can confirm however that Paul Flynn MP has written to the Home Office and Jessica supports that action.


Lynn Glaister
Office Manager for Jessica Morden MP
Labour Member of Parliament for Newport East

my reply to him :-
may i congratulate you for playing the "ostrich " not on my doorstep , as im sure you realise if you ever came to newport that a 5 minute bus ride from this " thugs " current address is Newport East where im sure he will find more converts for his " gang " unless we do something about it NOW .try playing the united front with Paul and at least try acting " OUTRAGED " as i'm sure the government will surely notice this . and maybe if your lucky move this " THUG " from york place to a bail address in newport east ( a 5 minute taxi Drive ) as you don't seem to mind about this " THUGS " past so would welcome him to your constituency . Please Take this seriously Before This " THUG " has a chance to cement himself into newport and get him moved NOW .
Disgruntled Taxpayer - you have got it wrong regarding parliamentary boundaries and what an MP can and cannot do.

There is "strict parliamentary protocol" that members do not pursue issues raised by, or about constituents of other MPs. They must refer matters concerning someone who is not their constituent to his or her own MP.

If Jessica Morden has been approached by her own constituents regarding this matter, then I am sure she would take the same approach as Paul Flynn and write to the Home Secretary highlighting concerns of "Newport East" residents.

Therefore, "her lackey", as you call her office manager, is correct in her response to you.
[quote][p][bold]disgruntled taxpayer[/bold] wrote: having contacted jessica morden on this matter this is her lackeys reply :- Thank you for your email. I am sorry but from the address details given you are not a constituent, there is a strict Parliamentary protocol that means that MPs may only act on behalf of their own constituents. I can confirm however that Paul Flynn MP has written to the Home Office and Jessica supports that action. Lynn Glaister Office Manager for Jessica Morden MP Labour Member of Parliament for Newport East my reply to him :- may i congratulate you for playing the "ostrich " not on my doorstep , as im sure you realise if you ever came to newport that a 5 minute bus ride from this " thugs " current address is Newport East where im sure he will find more converts for his " gang " unless we do something about it NOW .try playing the united front with Paul and at least try acting " OUTRAGED " as i'm sure the government will surely notice this . and maybe if your lucky move this " THUG " from york place to a bail address in newport east ( a 5 minute taxi Drive ) as you don't seem to mind about this " THUGS " past so would welcome him to your constituency . Please Take this seriously Before This " THUG " has a chance to cement himself into newport and get him moved NOW .[/p][/quote]Disgruntled Taxpayer - you have got it wrong regarding parliamentary boundaries and what an MP can and cannot do. There is "strict parliamentary protocol" that members do not pursue issues raised by, or about constituents of other MPs. They must refer matters concerning someone who is not their constituent to his or her own MP. If Jessica Morden has been approached by her own constituents regarding this matter, then I am sure she would take the same approach as Paul Flynn and write to the Home Secretary highlighting concerns of "Newport East" residents. Therefore, "her lackey", as you call her office manager, is correct in her response to you. Gweneira

1:42pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Oriel Bufton says...

I think a lot of people have missed the point here in relation to this criminal thug. The Authorities HAVE deported him- TO Wales!
I think a lot of people have missed the point here in relation to this criminal thug. The Authorities HAVE deported him- TO Wales! Oriel Bufton

3:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

humlin wrote:
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
I think that you will find that he has been found guilty A NUMBER OF TIMES.
[quote][p][bold]humlin[/bold] wrote: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY[/p][/quote]I think that you will find that he has been found guilty A NUMBER OF TIMES. Cymru Am Beth

5:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

huccaby says...

I think I find this comments page the most depressing part of living in Newport..... otherwise it's a good place I'm proud to be in
I think I find this comments page the most depressing part of living in Newport..... otherwise it's a good place I'm proud to be in huccaby

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